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THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!

Mastermind2002 said:
She's essentially the shiny new sports car on the lot that WWE fans are impressed by until you get into the car and test drive it. Then you realize it has a bad engine and the radio doesn't work.
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Sounds like a certain promoter who buys new wrestling figures and collects them all like Pokemon....
Mastermind2002 said:
I'm for it as long as they don't pull a Vince and start raiding all the talent from other Japanese promotions. Then I'll be pissed.
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Lolz isn't that what TK did with NJPW and Stardom?
 
blackman80 said:
I hear you Brother XXXplosive, But what I'm hearing is that in the 3 matches she had so far and she was in the Performance Center for a while...I heard she didn't got better as a wrestler and you see the same ol same ol Jade!!...You know wrestling fans will get bored and lose interested in a wrestler if they don't preformed good or get better in the ring!!...

Hope she gets better as a westler!!..
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LOL, last night was her first one-on-one match in the company and y'all have already declared her run in WWE to be a failure. R-E-L-A-X
A year from now if she hasn't improved in the ring and still having squash matches then we can talk about how badly she's been booked.
 
XXXplosive said:
LOL, last night was her first one-on-one match in the company and y'all have already declared her run in WWE to be a failure. R-E-L-A-X
A year from now if she hasn't improved in the ring and still having squash matches then we can talk about how badly she's been booked.
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Cats just want anything related to WWE/NXT performance center to fail.

Jade has already shared screen time with some of the biggest names in pro wrestling. That alone makes her signing a success.

Because she isn't doing to Flippy 25 minute match shit they want to call her WWE run a failure already.... Just like they called the whole Rock/Roman/Cody saga a failure when Rock showed up on Smackdown taking Cody's spot....
 
EPDC said:
Sounds like a certain promoter who buys new wrestling figures and collects them all like Pokemon....

Lolz isn't that what TK did with NJPW and Stardom?
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Not at all. New Japan doesn't have the money to retain anybody. NEVER HAVE! They've always underpaid their talent. That's why people walk and as far as Stardom is concerned, they have a working relationship with AEW. The only talent that has gone to AEW from Stardom is Mariah May.
 
XXXplosive said:
LOL, last night was her first one-on-one match in the company and y'all have already declared her run in WWE to be a failure. R-E-L-A-X
A year from now if she hasn't improved in the ring and still having squash matches then we can talk about how badly she's been booked.
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I never said that...I hope she have good success at WWE..But what I'm hearing about her at WWE so far, It's the same Jade vibe she had at AEW!!... :smh: ....Like I said, I hope she gets better as a wrestler!!..That's all I'm saying!!..
 
XXXplosive said:
She's had exactly one singles match so far. It's way too early to know how much she's improved. How difficult is that to understand???
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The fact that she had a singles squash match and been involved in a trios match where the OTHER women do the heavy lifting is evidence that she hasn't improved. There would be no need to do that if she has improved. An improved wrestler doesn't need training wheels.
 
EPDC said:
Cats just want anything related to WWE/NXT performance center to fail.

Jade has already shared screen time with some of the biggest names in pro wrestling. That alone makes her signing a success.

Because she isn't doing to Flippy 25 minute match shit they want to call her WWE run a failure already.... Just like they called the whole Rock/Roman/Cody saga a failure when Rock showed up on Smackdown taking Cody's spot....
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Like I said before, that's the difference between AEW and WWE.
TK hotshots everything with no long-term plans, hence whey the creative is shit right now in AEW and even their hardcore fans are complaining.
Meanwhile (at least in this new era of WWE) they are thinking of the long-game.

If Jade isn't on TV, they're asking "Why isn't she on TV wrestling every week?"
If Jade is on TV, they're asking "Why is she still doing squash matches (after only one singles match, lol)?"
If Jade is in the performance center, they're asking "Why is she still in the PC?"
If Jade isn't in the performance center, they're asking "Why isn't WWE getting her better in the ring?"
The anti-WWE crowd wants to have their cake and eat it too. LOL
 
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Mastermind2002 said:
The fact that she had a singles squash match and been involved in a trios match where the OTHER women do the heavy lifting is evidence that she hasn't improved. There would be no need to do that if she has improved. An improved wrestler doesn't need training wheels.
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And again, that's the difference between AEW and WWE. Maybe she has improved in the ring, maybe she hasn't.
At this point, it doesn't matter.
If she has improved she doesn't need to show off every new move she's learned in her FIRST singles match.
That's what they do in AEW.
Every new talent in AEW feels like they have to put on a "5-star" classic in their debut match no matter who the opponent is.
 
EPDC said:
Cats just want anything related to WWE/NXT performance center to fail.
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Who's saying that?


EPDC said:
Jade has already shared screen time with some of the biggest names in pro wrestling. That alone makes her signing a success.
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:lol:



EPDC said:
Because she isn't doing to Flippy 25 minute match shit they want to call her WWE run a failure already....
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Who's saying that again?


EPDC said:
Just like they called the whole Rock/Roman/Cody saga a failure when Rock showed up on Smackdown taking Cody's spot....
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At the time it was until THEY FIXED IT!
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Dude I'm not saying he's Kenny Omega out there I'm just saying he's not as bad as you think.



Every wrestler has their dud matches. Even the greats but Cena has a more respectable catalog of matches than Goldturd.




There's no history to revise. The facts are right there. Whether YOU choose to believe it is on you.
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I never said Cena was bad but you talking about him like he’s Daniel Bryan. He was presentation. He was not sold with his wrestling. And you know that. Jade can’t have a Cena type match? Of course she can. She’s had them.

And you getting off track nobody said Cena and Goldberg were the same wrestler. Cena has never carried a match is my point.

And you for sure are revising history because I’ve seen you knock better wrestlers but now Jade can’t wrestle but Cena can is crazy lol.
 
XXXplosive said:
I have no problem with how Jade has been presented in the WWE.
That's the difference between AEW and WWE.
Jade is being presented in WWE as an attraction that you only get to see every now and then.
They're selling her look and presentation and not whether she can have Meltzer wet dream 5-star matches in the ring.
WWE is not going to rush her into the ring like they did in AEW so she can have half hour 'bangers' against girls half her size.
It was a good move to have her partner with Bianca and Naomi so she can learn from them because she's still hella green right now.
Eventually Jade will probably turn on Bianca and that will lead to a program between them.
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Yeah I’m confused WWE brought in Jade for a reason and it ain’t her wrestling. The issue for me with her in AEW was she seemed too big for them. She was always destined to be WWE. If they get AEW Jade that’s an asset.
 
XXXplosive said:
And again, that's the difference between AEW and WWE. Maybe she has improved in the ring, maybe she hasn't.
At this point, it doesn't matter.
If she has improved she doesn't need to show off every new move she's learned in her FIRST singles match.
That's what they do in AEW.
Every new talent in AEW feels like they have to put on a "5-star" classic in their debut match no matter who the opponent is.
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Why does THAT bother you? They want to make the fans happy and give them a good performance. When did that become a negative?
 
blackman80 said:
I hear you Brother XXXplosive, But what I'm hearing is that in the 3 matches she had so far and she was in the Performance Center for a while...I heard she didn't got better as a wrestler and you see the same ol same ol Jade!!...You know wrestling fans will get bored and lose interested in a wrestler if they don't preformed good or get better in the ring!!...

Hope she gets better as a westler!!..
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What’s wrong with the same old Jade though? In AEW I get it. But same old Jade is not a problem.
 
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Mastermind2002 said:
Why does THAT bother you? They want to make the fans happy and give them a good performance. When did that become a negative?
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Putting on a good match is subjective. Someone who doesn’t like Japanese wrestling might think that’s trash. Are they wrong? Someone who likes Japanese wrestling may hate WWE…but they’re right?
 
XXXplosive said:
Raw was fine for what it was last night.
I think people had unrealistic expectations following WM and were expecting some kind of 'holy shit' moment like an MJF debut.
Every episode of Raw moving forward doesn't have to be the greatest Raw of all time.
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I didn’t care for it but realistically it was gonna be a let down it’s like the NFL having the SB and then the next night having a regular season game. So I get it. I just feel it was a typical raw and that’s kind of disappointing and I feel they about to build their program around this dumb ass draft….
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Why does THAT bother you? They want to make the fans happy and give them a good performance. When did that become a negative?
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LOL, it doesn't bother me.
That's just not the way you debut new talent, which is evidenced by AEW's ratings when it comes to their new signings.
It should bother TK, but he's too deep into the IWC mark booking mindset.
 
dtownsfinest said:
I never said Cena was bad but you talking about him like he’s Daniel Bryan.
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Only In comparison to Goldberg.


dtownsfinest said:
He was presentation. He was not sold with his wrestling. And you know that. Jade can’t have a Cena type match? Of course she can. She’s had them.
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Squash matches? That's a Goldberg type of match not a Cena type match.


dtownsfinest said:
And you getting off track nobody said Cena and Goldberg were the same wrestler. Cena has never carried a match is my point.
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And my point is Cena is better than Goldberg in the ring.


dtownsfinest said:
And you for sure are revising history because I’ve seen you knock better wrestlers but now Jade can’t wrestle but Cena can is crazy lol.
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I said Cena is better in the ring than Jade. That's not revisionist history that's a fact.
 
dtownsfinest said:
Yeah I’m confused WWE brought in Jade for a reason and it ain’t her wrestling. The issue for me with her in AEW was she seemed too big for them. She was always destined to be WWE. If they get AEW Jade that’s an asset.
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I get it from the hardcore AEW fans' perspective.
Jade is the first homegrown AEW talent to leave for the WWE so she is basically the test subject for how talent is treated in AEW vs. WWE.
So I can understand why the hardcore AEW fans are so invested in how Jade does in WWE.
However, it's clear to me a lot of these same fans want her to "fail" in WWE so they can say: "See the grass isn't greener on the other side!".
 
Mastermind2002 said:
Only In comparison to Goldberg.




Squash matches? That's a Goldberg type of match not a Cena type match.




And my point is Cena is better than Goldberg in the ring.




I said Cena is better in the ring than Jade. That's not revisionist history that's a fact.
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Cena ain’t never had a squash match? He ain’t never had a match end after 3 moves? :lol:

No revisionist history is you pretending like Cena was some technician in the ring lol.
 
XXXplosive said:
I get it from the hardcore AEW fans' perspective.
Jade is the first homegrown AEW talent to leave for the WWE so she is basically the test subject for how talent is treated in AEW vs. WWE.
So I can understand why the hardcore AEW fans are so invested in how Jade does in WWE.
However, it's clear to me a lot of these same fans want her to "fail" in WWE so they can say: "See the grass isn't greener on the other side!".
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Yeah that’s another thing why they pretending to be invested in her lol? Know damn well they want to see her fail lol. Like they really want to see her get better in the ring lol.
 
dtownsfinest said:
Putting on a good match is subjective. Someone who doesn’t like Japanese wrestling might think that’s trash. Are they wrong? Someone who likes Japanese wrestling may hate WWE…but they’re right?
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I'm talking about in context to a wrestler's mentality. If an AEW talent wants to work hard and try to put on an 5 star match for the fans even it doesn't end up being one I'm gonna appreciate the effort. I'm NEVER gonna look at that as a negative.
 
XXXplosive said:
I get it from the hardcore AEW fans' perspective.
Jade is the first homegrown AEW talent to leave for the WWE so she is basically the test subject for how talent is treated in AEW vs. WWE.
So I can understand why the hardcore AEW fans are so invested in how Jade does in WWE.
However, it's clear to me a lot of these same fans want her to "fail" in WWE so they can say: "See the grass isn't greener on the other side!".
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I legit want Jade to succeed. I'm only critical because I care. If I didn't give a damn I wouldn't be talking about her in the first place.
 
Mastermind2002 said:
I'm talking about in context to a wrestler's mentality. If an AEW talent wants to work hard and try to put on an 5 star match for the fans even it doesn't end up being one I'm gonna appreciate the effort. I'm NEVER gonna look at that as a negative.
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I feel you on that brother!!..I'm reading these comments on here saying that AEW fans want Jade to fail at WWE..No, I DON'T WANT HER TO FAIL AT WWE..I want her to do good there cause Yall know it's hard for Black wrestlers to get shine in professional wrestling!!...But what I'm hearing about her so far at WWE and when she was at The Performance Center, I heard you don't see no improvement from her in the ring and as a wrestler!!..


I hope she gets better as wrestler...WRESTLING FANS WILL LOSE INTERESTED IN YOU AS A WRESTLER AND THAT WON'T BE A GOOD LOOK!!..
 
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blackman80 said:
I feel you on that brother!!..I'm reading these comments on here saying that AEW fans want Jade to fail at WWE..No, I DON'T WANT HER TO FAIL AT WWE..I want her to do good there cause Yall know it's hard for Black wrestlers to get shine in professional wrestling!!...But what I'm hearing about her so far at WWE and when she was at The Performance Center, I heard you don't see no improvement from her in the ring and as a wrestler!!..


I hope she gets better as wrestler...WRESTLING FANS WILL LOSE INTERESTED IN YOU AS A WRESTLER AND THAT WON'T BE A GOOD LOOK!!..
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So instead of "hearing" about what's happening with her, then why don't you actually support her and watch to see what's actually happening? You're a wrestling fan correct?
 

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