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THE WRESTLING THREAD: HELL HAS FROZE OVER JOHN CENA HAS GONE FULL HEEL

c_commander said:
They showed Chad Gable's finally when he faced Gunther and he lost so that's not an automatic thing. Sami's wife was also shown in the Roman Reigns match
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Yeah but the amount of times the cut to her and involved her + Micheal Cole's bullshit "do you believe in miracles" crap and the entire announcing of that match all but gave it away. They did not do a good job, I was insanely disappointed. They made Gunther look weak and if I was any of the major stars it would no longer make sense for him to go to the next level against a Cody or whoever. Poorly executed from top to bottom.

I would have preferred Gunther keep beating Sammy until his wife ran into the ring and jumped on him and ended the match there with Gunther laughing at his near dead body and crying wife, then have him drop it to Sammy in an epic match at another event. Or something to that effect to really build it up, as it stands I don't think the match accomplished much, and squandered Gunthers run imo
 
EPDC said:
Again, they are focusing attention on their main show to a guy who hasn't worked at the company since August.

Angle or not, shit is corny.
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The focus coming out of this will be on the rebuilding of Jack Perry. That's what his whole heel "Scapegoat" gimmick has been about since he popped up in New Japan. Kayfabe tearing up his AEW contract. Calling out TK for suspending him and all of that. They've been putting the peices in place well before the Punk interview.
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
Yeah but the amount of times the cut to her and involved her + Micheal Cole's bullshit "do you believe in miracles" crap and the entire announcing of that match all but gave it away. They did not do a good job, I was insanely disappointed. They made Gunther look weak and if I was any of the major stars it would no longer make sense for him to go to the next level against a Cody or whoever. Poorly executed from top to bottom.

I would have preferred Gunther keep beating Sammy until his wife ran into the ring and jumped on him and ended the match there with Gunther laughing at his near dead body and crying wife, then have him drop it to Sammy in an epic match at another event. Or something to that effect to really build it up, as it stands I don't think the match accomplished much, and squandered Gunthers run imo
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I can tell you’ve been watching wrasslin long enough to be able to smell the obvious.

I forgot who said it, but he said

“Stay down Sami, you’re not going to do it!”

“Sami doesn’t look like the guy that’s going to dethrone the champion.”

It was too obvious….
 
Ballatician said:
I can tell you’ve been watching wrasslin long enough to be able to smell the obvious.

I forgot who said it, but he said

“Stay down Sami, you’re not going to do it!”

“Sami doesn’t look like the guy that’s going to dethrone the champion.”

It was too obvious….
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I'm getting back into it now after a pretty long hiatus but wrestling and pokemon were my entire life(throw in boxing and mma and you basically know me lol) I even did the backyard wrestling thing as a young kid, we lit our friends on fire broke florescent tubes on each other, all that dumb bullshit lol then jackass came out and our stupidity went to a whole new level lol the thing that made me lose passion were matches just like that, the narrative was just so obvious that it took the joy right out of the match, way too many hints at what was going to happen, Just call the match as it's happening and try to not spoon feed what's going on to the audience like we're toddlers, That and the dawn of the super choreographed match where it's clear the wrestlers planned out every spot and move and they just perform it all back to back to back without letting the crowd react to what they've seen and not building any kind of tension or drama.
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
I'm getting back into it now after a pretty long hiatus but wrestling and pokemon were my entire life(throw in boxing and mma and you basically know me lol) I even did the backyard wrestling thing as a young kid, we lit our friends on fire broke florescent tubes on each other, all that dumb bullshit lol then jackass came out and our stupidity went to a whole new level lol the thing that made me lose passion were matches just like that, the narrative was just so obvious that it took the joy right out of the match, way too many hints at what was going to happen, Just call the match as it's happening and try to not spoon feed what's going on to the audience like we're toddlers, That and the dawn of the super choreographed match where it's clear the wrestlers planned out every spot and move and they just perform it all back to back to back without letting the crowd react to what they've seen and not building any kind of tension or drama.
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Glad to be back(always kept up and watched shoot interviews and podcast like the drive through ECT) but now I'm back deep in the trenches lol
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
I'm getting back into it now after a pretty long hiatus but wrestling and pokemon were my entire life(throw in boxing and mma and you basically know me lol) I even did the backyard wrestling thing as a young kid, we lit our friends on fire broke florescent tubes on each other, all that dumb bullshit lol then jackass came out and our stupidity went to a whole new level lol the thing that made me lose passion were matches just like that, the narrative was just so obvious that it took the joy right out of the match, way too many hints at what was going to happen, Just call the match as it's happening and try to not spoon feed what's going on to the audience like we're toddlers, That and the dawn of the super choreographed match where it's clear the wrestlers planned out every spot and move and they just perform it all back to back to back without letting the crowd react to what they've seen and not building any kind of tension or drama.
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Yesterday was my first wrestlemania in 20 years, after watching wrestling religiously since the NWA days in the 80’s. I got Peacock to watch soccer and saw that wrestlemania was streaming, so I said fuck it let me see what’s going on.

- The ladder match was fire but everything else was subpar to me. I guess you have to understand the storyline to get into it, but nothing grabbed my attention.

- Glad to see women wrestling has stepped up.

- Commentary was a 5/10
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
Yeah but the amount of times the cut to her and involved her + Micheal Cole's bullshit "do you believe in miracles" crap and the entire announcing of that match all but gave it away. They did not do a good job, I was insanely disappointed. They made Gunther look weak and if I was any of the major stars it would no longer make sense for him to go to the next level against a Cody or whoever. Poorly executed from top to bottom.

I would have preferred Gunther keep beating Sammy until his wife ran into the ring and jumped on him and ended the match there with Gunther laughing at his near dead body and crying wife, then have him drop it to Sammy in an epic match at another event. Or something to that effect to really build it up, as it stands I don't think the match accomplished much, and squandered Gunthers run imo
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We all knew Sami was winning though. The announcing team didn't tip it off we knew it. Just like we know Cody will win tonight......at least I Think we know lol.
 
Ballatician said:
Yesterday was my first wrestlemania in 20 years, after watching wrestling religiously since the NWA days in the 80’s. I got Peacock to watch soccer and saw that wrestlemania was streaming, so I said fuck it let me see what’s going on.

- The ladder match was fire but everything else was subpar to me. I guess you have to understand the storyline to get into it, but nothing grabbed my attention.

- Glad to see women wrestling has stepped up.

- Commentary was a 5/10
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Yeah being in and out of wrestling...i've realized that in order to fully appreciate and get it you have to be involved in the storyline. Casual fans won't be as impressed.
 
datboi said:
Surprise Cena and Austin appearance to balance out the Bloodline. Cody Wrestlemania moment will be in the ring with Austin, Cena passing the torch to Cody as Babyfaces champions of the company
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Suprise Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks to balance out the Bloodline. Dave Meltzer gives it a 9000 star match Gets himself pregnant due to the Super Kick party that takes place with Jimmy and the Young Bucks. Cody wins and takes WWE to it's first Forbidden Door!

Now THAT'S some good shyt!
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
I think guys like ospary are talented and would be doing much better if they went to WWE and learned that style and given actual material to work with . I don't like that cirque de sole shit, and neither do the masses in the US.
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Mastermind2002 said:
You speak for the masses in U.S? By that logic wrestlers like Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Great Muta, etc would've never became great in the United States. A lot of the greats do the Cirque du Soleil shit. The problem isn't the Cirque du Soleil shit it's building stories around the Cirque du Soleil shit.
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Are we gonna act like Ricochet JUST became relevant and started winning matches? He spent his main roster career being Vinces bytch. Now that he's gone he's doing more than just putting others over and hanging in catering. Flippy shyt has it's place but when your entire show is dominated by it, it gets tiring really quick
 
0utsyder said:
Are we gonna act like Ricochet JUST became relevant and started winning matches? He spent his main roster career being Vinces bytch. Now that he's gone he's doing more than just putting others over and hanging in catering. Flippy shyt has it's place but when your entire show is dominated by it, it gets tiring really quick
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That can be said about any style of wrestling. Yes, you don't want a whole show dominated by flippy shit but you also don't want a whole show dominated by Brock Lesnar/Roman Reigns kind of shit. That's one of the reasons why I watch different wrestling promotions. If I need to get my women's wrestling fix I watch Stardom. If I crave stiff Strong Style wrestling I watch New Japan. If I want to watch some goofy shit I'll watch DDT. If I want Death/hardcore shit I'll watch GCW and if I want to watch a hybrid of all that stuff I watch AEW. There's something for everyone. That's the benefit of having multiple wrestling promotions. If everything was WWE I would be bored out of my mind.
 
God-Of-War-420 said:
Yeah but the amount of times the cut to her and involved her + Micheal Cole's bullshit "do you believe in miracles" crap and the entire announcing of that match all but gave it away. They did not do a good job, I was insanely disappointed. They made Gunther look weak and if I was any of the major stars it would no longer make sense for him to go to the next level against a Cody or whoever. Poorly executed from top to bottom.

I would have preferred Gunther keep beating Sammy until his wife ran into the ring and jumped on him and ended the match there with Gunther laughing at his near dead body and crying wife, then have him drop it to Sammy in an epic match at another event. Or something to that effect to really build it up, as it stands I don't think the match accomplished much, and squandered Gunthers run imo
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Gunther has lost 1 match since being brought up on the main roster. I agree that what happened last night was done poorly and I didn't think that Gunther should lose the belt. With that said 1 loss does not stop him from being viewed as a legitimate threat to become world champ and to beat anyone on that roster
 
c_commander said:
Gunther has lost 1 match since being brought up on the main roster. I agree that what happened last night was done poorly and I didn't think that Gunther should lose the belt. With that said 1 loss does not stop him from being viewed as a legitimate threat to become world champ and to beat anyone on that roster
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Yeah honestly I don't think Gunther looked weak at all he beat his ASS. It made Sami look stronger which is good.
 

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