They did fuck her up. Think about it how many AEW guys are homegrown? Most of them are guys developed elsewhere. Jade was the one they “developed” and she’s raw.

They could easily do what AEW did and just throw her out there. But I give them credit. They learned from WWE mistake. Also think they could’ve probably fast forwarded her progress by putting her on NXT but her buzz so high I think they are handling it well.
They could put her on NXT house shows but they'd probably be better off putting her on some house shows with the main roster. Let a vet like Nattie work with her in actual matches to get experience and get a gauge of exactly where she's at as a worker.
 
They did fuck her up. Think about it how many AEW guys are homegrown? Most of them are guys developed elsewhere. Jade was the one they “developed” and she’s raw.

They could easily do what AEW did and just throw her out there. But I give them credit. They learned from AEW mistake. Also think they could’ve probably fast forwarded her progress by putting her on NXT but her buzz so high I think they are handling it well.

I don't think Jade wasn't the only new and raw wrestler that AEW developed!!..


Hook
Action Andretti
Nick Wayne
Red Velvet
Lee Johnson(Julia Hart Husband)..Hes mostly fighting on ROH
Brock Anderson(Arn Anderson son)
Warlow


I want to say Thunder Rosa, Julia Hart, and Top Flight as well but I might need to look into that and find out!!



All I'm saying with Jade is that WWE could at least put her on the roster on one of their shows and make appearances and have her on TV!!..
 
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I don't think Jade wasn't the only new and raw wrestler that AEW developed!!..


Hook
Action Andretti
Nick Wayne
Red Velvet
Lee Johnson(Julia Hart Husband)..Hes mostly fighting on ROH
Brock Anderson(Arn Anderson son)



I want to say Thunder Rosa, Julia Hart, and Top Flight as well but I might need to look into that and find out!!



All I'm saying with Jade is that WWE could at least put her on the roster on one of their shows and make appearances and have her on TV!!..
LOL, you're pretty much making the argument for us.
None of the guys you mentioned have meant a damn so far in AEW except for maybe Hook and TK managed to fuck up whatever momentum he had with his shitty booking.
Brock Anderson ain't even with the company anymore and Thunder Rosa already had experience before she ever got to AEW.
And if you actually watched WWE, you would know that Jade has been shown on TV numerous times already.
 
I don't think Jade wasn't the only new and raw wrestler that AEW developed!!..


Hook
Action Andretti
Nick Wayne
Red Velvet
Lee Johnson(Julia Hart Husband)..Hes mostly fighting on ROH
Brock Anderson(Arn Anderson son)


I want to say Thunder Rosa, Julia Hart, and Top Flight as well but I might need to look into that and find out!!



All I'm saying with Jade is that WWE could at least put her on the roster on one of their shows and make appearances and have her on TV!!..
They will put her on a roster and put her on TV there’s no rush lol.

And I’m talking about all of AEWs biggest wrestlers. Bryan, Cody when he was there; Punk when he was there, Swerve, Page, Mosley, Elite…..their best and most popular guys are not homegrown.
 
LOL, you're pretty much making the argument for us.
None of the guys you mentioned have meant a damn so far in AEW except for maybe Hook and TK managed to fuck up whatever momentum he had with his shitty booking.
Brock Anderson ain't even with the company anymore and Thunder Rosa already had experience before she ever got to AEW.
And if you actually watched WWE, you would know that Jade has been shown on TV numerous times already.
And that’s what I was getting. Their top guys aren’t developed by them. So yeah it’s safe to say they done goofed with Jade.
 
LOL, you're pretty much making the argument for us.
None of the guys you mentioned have meant a damn so far in AEW except for maybe Hook and TK managed to fuck up whatever momentum he had with his shitty booking.
Brock Anderson ain't even with the company anymore and Thunder Rosa already had experience before she ever got to AEW.
And if you actually watched WWE, you would know that Jade has been shown on TV numerous times already.

I name those wrestlers cause the homie said that Jade was the only raw new wrestler that AEW had developed but she wasn't...

Yeah, I don't watched WWE cause I'm not a big hardcore wrestling fan like I use to when I was a kid!!....It been a long time...But I read yall comments and also read on social media about WWE and all I'm asking is why she's not on a roster on one of their shows yet??....I have a cousin and I have co workers that are die hard WWE Fans and tell are telling me that after The Royal Rumble, she didn't showed up yet on none of the shows yet!!..That's all I'm asking is what's the hold up??....I remember back in the days with WWE, when they signed a big new talent..They always on TV or starting their storyline and fueds with other wrestlers!!...That's all I'm asking about Jade at WWE..


Good Luck to Jade at WWE!!..


Also, you're right homie, I thought Brock Anderson was still there cause he was mainly fighting at ROH alot but I see he's not there no more!!...
 
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I think these AEW marks have this perverse joy in seeing talent that left AEW "fail" in the WWE.
It's the same with Cody and CM Punk.
They want to be able to say "See, you should have never left AEW, now look at ya". LOL

Some of yall are funny with calling people WWE or AEW marks!!..Yall are something else with that!!.... :lol: ..You like what you like..no hate!!..


As for Jade, I don't want her to fail at WWE..I want her to have success over there..I don't hate on WWE but I just don't watched it no more!!..All I'm saying is that she been there for a while now and why she's not on a active roster on one of their shows???....That's all I'm asking??


Good Luck to Jade!!..
 
Coming to the next episode of Dynamite.....lolz

Tony Kahn watching this be like:
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WWE is like Apple they don't rush to be first with a concept they will wait for it to look polish and run smoothly. The wrestling product is different. Her presentation looks different she can't use that larger than life persona when she is in the WWE ring. The production is bigger the ring is larger the move sets are faster and smooth. In AEW Jade look like a giant in WWE just being in a larger ring changes her look also the Wrestlers should would face from Bianca, Rhea, Charlotte, Nia , Raquel, Naomi even Tiffany would all look her eye to eye and match strength and size plus they are a more polished product. I want them to treat Jade like a female Lex Luger kinda stiff by display of power and it could work for her.

My dream matches

Bianca vs Jade

Jade vs Lash. (Fuck yall I like Lash)

Jade/Bianca tag team champions

Jade/Bianca/Naomi vs Joshis

Jade/Bianca/Naomi vs Charlotte/Becky/Bailey
 
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It will continue to be this way until he hires a real booker that knows how to properly use the talent. He literally has the best roster in the business at his disposal and doesn't have a clue on how to use them.


is it booking? Or is it the wrestlers? Because nobody cares how bad the wrestling or booking is when you have draws. I think a issue with them is they are drawing a certain wrestling fanbase and the wrestlers want a mainstream audience to watch.
 
It will continue to be this way until he hires a real booker that knows how to properly use the talent. He literally has the best roster in the business at his disposal and doesn't have a clue on how to use them.


I was going tp post this earlier but didn't want to get accused of trolling AEW marks :rolleyes:

I really believe booking and talent are both to blame, in addition to the audience they cater to as well.

AEW will not grow if TK continues to only focus on his base.
 
is it booking? Or is it the wrestlers?

It's the booking. The wrestlers can get themselves over no problem. TK is just inconsistent in his storytelling and who he features. One week he'll feature a wrestler/story, it gets over with the audience then the wrestler/story disappears for two weeks before we get a follow up. TK is a very lazy booker. He desperately needs to get someone who can book.

Because nobody cares how bad the wrestling or booking is when you have draws.

Good booking plays an important role in what develops draws in the first place. The AEW fanbase cares about good wrestling but they also want some consistency in the stories being told and how wrestlers are presented. What good is having Ospreay, Okada, White, Omega, etc if you don't know what to do with them. You have to give people a reason to care.


I think a issue with them is they are drawing a certain wrestling fanbase and the wrestlers want a mainstream audience to watch.

If they want to draw a mainstream audience, it starts with strong booking/storytelling and consistency. The great wrestling is gonna be there. That's what they do best but they need to work on the other things to keep the audience engaged.
 
is it booking? Or is it the wrestlers? Because nobody cares how bad the wrestling or booking is when you have draws. I think a issue with them is they are drawing a certain wrestling fanbase and the wrestlers want a mainstream audience to watch.
The booking certainly isn't doing people no favors. It was a big deal when Edge(Adam Copeland) showed up. How long did it take for him to feel like just another guy? Same with Adam Cole, Takeshita and others.
He either throws guys out there with no plan, no push or a push that isn't consistent or he puts them in dumb shit or in a faction that doesn't help them. For example how do you break up Powerhouse Hobbs and Ricky Starks, have Hobbs beat Starks easily and then Hobbs disappears while Starks starts a featured feud within a month?
 
The booking certainly isn't doing people no favors. It was a big deal when Edge(Adam Copeland) showed up. How long did it take for him to feel like just another guy? Same with Adam Cole, Takeshita and others.
He either throws guys out there with no plan, no push or a push that isn't consistent or he puts them in dumb shit or in a faction that doesn't help them. For example how do you break up Powerhouse Hobbs and Ricky Starks, have Hobbs beat Starks easily and then Hobbs disappears while Starks starts a featured feud within a month?
And there it is!
The main problem with Announcements Every(week) Wrestling is that the announcement is the only real exciting part.

When they brought Edge over I thought I'd finally be able to give AEW a fair try. I planned to watch as they slow built to a Edge/Christian program. But they just hot-shotted that shit within a month or two.

Announcement, instant dream feud, and then .... What is left to be excited for?

They could have slow built Edge v Christain for months. Let Edge come in and work his way up to Christain, who was on a world title level run at the time. Keep them separate until a BIG show.
 
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It's the booking. The wrestlers can get themselves over no problem. TK is just inconsistent in his storytelling and who he features. One week he'll feature a wrestler/story, it gets over with the audience then the wrestler/story disappears for two weeks before we get a follow up. TK is a very lazy booker. He desperately needs to get someone who can book.



Good booking plays an important role in what develops draws in the first place. The AEW fanbase cares about good wrestling but they also want some consistency in the stories being told and how wrestlers are presented. What good is having Ospreay, Okada, White, Omega, etc if you don't know what to do with them. You have to give people a reason to care.




If they want to draw a mainstream audience, it starts with strong booking/storytelling and consistency. The great wrestling is gonna be there. That's what they do best but they need to work on the other things to keep the audience engaged.
I’ve just never seen WWE have an issue with ratings or audience because of poor booking. To me booking is just a scapegoat for the fact that AEW doesn’t draw a mainstream audience because they don’t appeal to mainstream wrestling fans. They sign wrestlers from WWE who don’t draw well(exception being a few guys like Daniel Bryan) or sign guys known from NJPW and ROH.

I’ll actually defend Tony here to an extent. The wrestlers want a bigger audience but as a somewhat newer promotion it’s going to come at a snails pace. If they want a bigger audience they should probably sign with different promotion.
 
The booking certainly isn't doing people no favors. It was a big deal when Edge(Adam Copeland) showed up. How long did it take for him to feel like just another guy? Same with Adam Cole, Takeshita and others.
He either throws guys out there with no plan, no push or a push that isn't consistent or he puts them in dumb shit or in a faction that doesn't help them. For example how do you break up Powerhouse Hobbs and Ricky Starks, have Hobbs beat Starks easily and then Hobbs disappears while Starks starts a featured feud within a month?
So I’m gonna defend Tony here…it’s 2024….who really want to as Edge? Not even Edge but “Adam Copeland”?

Im not saying booking isn’t an issue. But booking isn’t why AEW is where it’s at right now. It’s a niche program for a niche audience.
 
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