Music: JAY-Z weighs in on "$500,000 in cash or lunch with JAY-Z" debate: "You've gotta take the money"
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You don't gotta tell me once
She was trying to push celebrity worshipping like taking a half a million is dumber than eating dinner with this nig.. smh .. talking about it was an interesting conversation piece.. fuck outta here.. that's like a choice to eat dog shit vs a 5 star surf and turf meal
See Jay-Z is not a scammer. Lol
He didn't outright say it and he may be downplaying the knowledge/experience he could provide, but he clearly knows 500k will give you hell of a start. The 500k may be of more value than just Jay-Z's knowledge alone.
I think 50 said he wasn't the smartest. He was just willing to put in the work and educate himself as much as possible. Joe Budden has said similar and based on Jay's comments I'd put him in the same boat. People typically believe the people who made it were super intelligent or talented. Not saying intelligence is never a factor, but it's more likely that successful people literally work harder than the average person. They also took advantage of opportunities and were willing to take risk. Also, people are sometimes very fortunate timing wise.
I don't know if he was just being humble, but it isn't the worst look considering his thoughts on loaning money being taken out of context.
He didn't outright say it and he may be downplaying the knowledge/experience he could provide, but he clearly knows 500k will give you hell of a start. The 500k may be of more value than just Jay-Z's knowledge alone.
I think 50 said he wasn't the smartest. He was just willing to put in the work and educate himself as much as possible. Joe Budden has said similar and based on Jay's comments I'd put him in the same boat. People typically believe the people who made it were super intelligent or talented. Not saying intelligence is never a factor, but it's more likely that successful people literally work harder than the average person. They also took advantage of opportunities and were willing to take risk. Also, people are sometimes very fortunate timing wise.
I don't know if he was just being humble, but it isn't the worst look considering his thoughts on loaning money being taken out of context.
"'Il take the lunch with Jay-Z." — Someone who invested in DJ Envy's real estate empire
Only an idiot would take the meeting over the cash
We got proof many would take the money and give it to the clone of Big Pun and a guy named Envy...
at least if they took the Hov lunch?
They would know better.
Brooklyn>>>>
Dinner with Jay z or tickets to ja rule festival
To be fair if you went to Fyre?
Settlement payments, crazy stories, podcast and appearing in documentaries and a few serious fungal infections.
Unknown child, pink eye, and probation for assault
Listen you know the amount of Viagra, honey packs, top shelf tequila and cake icing me and wifey can use in Vegas with 500k
"F" Dat!!! Gimme that 500k!! I can make some shit happen.
Guy soldout residents of Brooklyn, shot his brother, may have given his mother crack, fucked a 15 year old Foxy Brown and gave her a STD (ALLEGEDLY), has bastards he dont claim, betrayed several best friends and business partners... and people are mulling over a sit down with this POS vs a 500k cash payout?
This is crazy I just had a conversation with my friend about this over the weekend. The topic came up and Jay-Z was included. I told him life is strange because if Jay-Z came up in a different time do you think he would be as successful. He said yes and I disagreed because if he came up during a time when rap was not a thing, how would he get the fame and then turn around and use that for other ventures.
He stated his work ethic or drive would land him somewhere, but then I said I don't think so. Things happen that no one could plan for and then things open up. We all heard about the saying if Biggie didn't die at that time would Jay-Z got the same shine? Who knows, but that is what I was getting at.
I said the same thing for Puffy or Kanye being producers. If they came up during 60's and 70's they would be kicked out of studios using samples. He then countered me and said what about Michael Jackson and I gave him the same type of answer. I actually did think in the past what would happen if Michael didn't get born to a Joe Jackson? What would happen if he didn't have the brothers? Who knows? He obviously learned from all the greats before him, but he also transformed a time period he ran. Would that have been possible if Joe never risked what he did?
Just makes you look at this life and being born when you are differently.
It's crazy isn't it? He then ends up with Beyonce. If he never did any of that would things have turned out differently? Who knows! In a previous generation before the 90s an artist with this track record would have been a PR nightmare.
interesting. doesn't warren buffet do something similar? auctions off a lunch with him for charity...six figures
edit...seven figures plus
edit...seven figures plus
Only bamas I know talking about they would sit down with him are over on Twitter with the rest of the weirdos.
I know what the fuck to do with $500K.
I know what the fuck to do with $500K.
The only way I'd chose the dinner is if I knew without a doubt that by the time the dinner was over I'd be walking out with millions.
I'm more interested in the thought of would Jay-Z be successful without rap. Without rap I don't see Jay-Z being successful. You could possibly argue that he'd be a successful writer, but I don't think we've seen examples of that outside of music. I don't even know if Jay-Z has been credited with writing music outside of rap ( not featured on a none rap song but wright a completely different genre).
Music is the gift that creates the wave for the other ventures. Most of us never find our gifts and even for those who do they aren't able to properly utilize it financially. Someone is going to say he allegedly was a good hustler and would have done something with the illegal money without rap. We all know former drug dealers who were very or relatively successful who never made it beyond drugs, in jail, dead or just working a regular 9 to 5 if they were fortunate. Sometimes just meeting one person changes your entire life. Leaving the house at 8am instead of 8:05am could literally change your whole life. Your life is made up of different events or variables that created who you are today. In my opinion, removing the rapper element of Jay-Z drastically reduces Jay-Z chances of being successful. Dame Dash is a very big part of Jay being successful. If not for rap/music, do the two even meet? If Jay-Z doesn't take the Def Jam President role, does he still make it to his current status or is he just Beyonce's rapper husband?
The Big living thing has always been nonsense to me. It's also disrespectful to the other acts that were around at the time and shortly after Bigs death and Jay-Z's rise. This isn't the first time I've said this, but in my opinion there was a time when DMX was more popular than Jay-Z. DMX was considered the overall better performer and brought a different type of energy with his lyrics. Clearly and respectfully, DMX didn't have the discipline to maintain his position. If DMX is more disciplined, he's potentially the bigger star to this day. He'd already had a few acting roles in decent movies and had the respect of his rap peers.
There is no way for us to know what Big would have done negative or positive to maintain his status. Something as simple as leaving Puff too soon could have hurt his career. Unless someone told me Big was supposed to get the Hard Knocks Life beat, Jay-Z was going to be Jay-Z regardless of Big living. That song more or less started Jay-Z's commercial success. Next you have to say somehow Big living means Kanye never comes around the Roc to help create the Blue Print. The BluePrint pushed him to the next level. Nas is still around today and Jay-Z was still successful. People are going to laugh and say it wasn't true but Jarule may have been bigger than Jay-Z at the height the Murder INC run. The earlier 2000s late 90s Def Jam alone was very competitive. That's not even counting the down South acts yet I'm to believe Big living means Jay-Z is just another act?
Maybe I'm super uninformed about something because the only reasoning I've ever heard is Jay-Z used a few Big lines which makes no sense to me. You can't build a career off of paying homage to someone. At least, not to the extent of what Jay-Z has accomplished.
Sounds like a regular wall street guy or politician to me.
Jokes aside. When he's giving his mother crack, does he realize how addictive it is compared to something like weed or even coke? I was a kid, but whenever you her people talk about that time they claim they didn't know the effects of the drug at that time. I'm not trying to make excuses but I'm assuming he's a kid himself at the time he's giving his mother crack. Generally speaking, at somepoint drug dealers had to realize what was happening at somepoint and still put profit first.
And everyone who had lunch with Buffet are now multi millionaires right?
Yeah life is interesting like that. Not just Jay-Z, but all those artists/producers in the 90s that went on to become bigger moguls than their predecessor like Berry Gordy. Rap was never seen as something that would become the dominant music when it first came out and many thought it would go out like disco.
Disco as an example of artists who came around that time, but due to that genre not staying relevant we never got any chance to see people of that become huge successes. Not their fault, but just the circumstance just as some thought MJ would not surpass his child stardom. The Biggie Smalls and Jay-Z scenario I see why it is said.
Biggie Smalls and Jay Z both had albums out at the same time, but Biggie was the much more known and recognizable star. He never got to reach a mature status as Jay Z. It is like those who say Michael Jordan and Bulls prevented other great teams from shining as bright or bigger because they were the top stars preventing it. When Jordan retired that time for baseball it did open up for other teams and when he came back he went right back to running things again with the Bulls. Biggie was known for being the King Of New York which some say eventually went to Jay Z.
The DMX thing is interesting because many saw him as a new Pac around the time. He stated how Jay Z didn't have that same emotional connection as himself with fans for the most part. I did kind of get what DMX meant about Jay-Z and that is why the Biggie comparison comes into play as Biggie's personality would lean more to mainstream being the big lovable guy like a Heavy D.
Even if there was a stipulation that I'd have to blow the cash on coke, booze, bud, and whores
500k>>> dinner with camel Joe.
500k>>> dinner with camel Joe.
You used the term King of New York. Outside of New York, I don't think anyone really cared about that. The reality is Big was on Bad Boy and they were on a run primarily due to him, but still. I'm not taking anything away from Big. However, i remember Sisco talked about losing some award to 112. He basically said they (112) were on Bad Boy so there was no way Dru Hill was going to win over 112 .Mase was bigger than Jay-Z during that time. Puff was great at what he did and in my opinion people don't give him enough respect for Bigs success. If Biggie doesn't go to Bad Boy, he probably doesn't stand out anymore than Jay-Z. I'm only speaking for outside of New York. Clearly, I have no clue about what was happening there on a street/club level.
King of New York during the time of the east coast west coast drama in terms of hip hop media mattered big time then. Jay Z was around for that and the main guy was Biggie. Biggie was hot just off a demo and was wanted by hip hop execs which is why Puffy went hard to get him to help launch his new label. Source Magazine did a lot for his hype with unsigned hype. All this was happening when Jay-Z was rapping.
Biggie could have went to Def Jam. As the west coast was dominating with the charts Biggie came along as the new guy that people believed Nas to originally be taking New York's rap scene back.
"If you're an aspiring rapper and you know you have the flavor and potential to make dope records, you don't need to go into the studio and spend crazy cash to make a fly demo. You don't even need a 4-track; just two turntables and a microphone, press record on the tape deck and you're good to go. B-I-G is living proof of this fact. His DJ, Hitman 50 Grand, threw on a couple classic breaks and instrumentals and let B-I-G do what he had to do; he ripped shit. Straight outta Brooklyn, New York, the heavy-set brother B-I-G has mad skills. His rhymes are fatter than he is. All four of his jams were basically a freestyle exhibition. Obviously, to come out as an MC takes a lot more than hype rhymes, but rhyme skills are the main ingredient to true success in hip-hop, and when it comes to those, B-I-G's got plenty." - The Source, March 1992 (Unsigned Hype).
When Biggie dropped his album New York crowned him in the media.
The same Source that had that iconic award show where both the south and west coast went at the east for acknowledgement because New York was the mecca for hip hop.
I will never understand people who wait hrs for a fuxking autograph. These people are no different from you, they just have a talent/job that might pay more. Aint no fuxking man on earth superior to me
And the second album showed that it was puff making the shit happen
I mean in a nutshell, the business of music was there. The TV stations, radio stations, the record labels, the infamous night clubs. The ecosystem where the money cycled was smaller and directed their. So you could see who had it thus making who didn't go harder. Same as California. The coke was good and it was a hostile environment in the business world whether you work regular jobs or in corporate jobs. The water flowed where the current took it.
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