Um. Okay.
GRAPHIC RAW FOOTAGE: Massacre Across Israel From the Eyes of Hamas
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Um. Okay.
@ the 1:30 mark they dropped home boi like a pack of bad meat.....they have some nice neighbor hoods...
@Moving Target,
Bruh, you make a lot of good points... a whole lot.
I disagree with one point though. You said that you may be looking to leave the U.S. at some point. The U.S. is our home, Bruh. It always was, and it'll always be. White folks (Europeans) are the aliens here, not us.
We have to get that through our minds. Once we do that, we'll look at things differently. If I asked you to protect the place where you work, would your heart really be in it? Not for most people. But, if I ask you to protect your home, where your family resides... God help the MoFos who come there trying to do you some harm.
White folks and every other nation around the world have convinced us that we're from everywhere but here. So we're lackluster when it comes to protecting this land. This is our land. No one farms it like us. We know every nook, crook, and cranny in this MoFo because we were always here.
We need to fight to the death to make our home safe for our families. If you do go somewhere else, those people aren't going to welcome you. You're going to be alien to them, even if you have money (assuming they accept your money).
Other than that one point, I'm in lock step with you.
Bruh, you make a lot of good points... a whole lot.
I disagree with one point though. You said that you may be looking to leave the U.S. at some point. The U.S. is our home, Bruh. It always was, and it'll always be. White folks (Europeans) are the aliens here, not us.
We have to get that through our minds. Once we do that, we'll look at things differently. If I asked you to protect the place where you work, would your heart really be in it? Not for most people. But, if I ask you to protect your home, where your family resides... God help the MoFos who come there trying to do you some harm.
White folks and every other nation around the world have convinced us that we're from everywhere but here. So we're lackluster when it comes to protecting this land. This is our land. No one farms it like us. We know every nook, crook, and cranny in this MoFo because we were always here.
We need to fight to the death to make our home safe for our families. If you do go somewhere else, those people aren't going to welcome you. You're going to be alien to them, even if you have money (assuming they accept your money).
Other than that one point, I'm in lock step with you.
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That was brutal. That AK round is no joke.
Damn, they fucked that dog up.
not if you see them only as animals.....remember at one time black people in this country were bred, beaten, hung, burned, and brutalized bc they didnt see us as human beings...remember the 3/5ths compromise.
i understand exactly where yo coming from and yes we always been here but i also know a good run is better than a bad stand. i have to think about the family that cant fight or are too young to fight.
i been preparing to protect my family. even got some land that is going to be a farm. but truthfully if im outnumbered and out gunned, it always helps to have a fall back plan/locale/team. then you can regroup and strategize on the return.
Haven't followed any of this conflict but your breakdown makes perfect sense
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Dat muthafucka sound like he off dat Paul Mason Dray.
I'm not familiar with Paul Mason, but I ain't even arguing with cat. Bgol has the most interesting characters.
I understand you're trying to stay out of the political part. Sure.
Thing is, what's going on really is political. And the U.S. standing with the State of Israel in the way that they do while completely demonizing the other side does a lot towards exacerbating the oppression. Whereas if they were to stand up, draw a line in the sand and threaten to completely pull back all aid to Israel, it could have a major impact on the current ethnic cleansing that's happening.
Losing support of a significant portion of American jews could be a concern for a leader, if that was the scenario.
I have serious doubts about the effectiveness of our government issuing a soft verbal disagreement with the past and present actions of the Israelis (alongside a rebuke of Hamas' aggression).
I'm just hoping Biden doesn't do something stupid like have American troops sent over to fight alongside Israel. I know he deployed 2,000 to guard exit points and for humanitarian aid.
All of this is true and well said. Hamas can't win this though and should have though lt about innocents being killed on both sides
Thank you, family.
It depends upon what one regards as being a "win".
The tragic losses are, as you said, the innocents.
Now as far as who gets the advantage in battle goes, it would depend upon who is supporting/arming Hamas and who may or may not decide to jump in.
Another effed up side to this are the questions of: If this nasty battle of savagery against civilians continues and the United States who gives billions in aid to Israel and has been supplying them with weapons and whose presidency over decades has continuously pledged unflagging loyalty to the State of Israel was to join the war to fight alongside Israel:
Who else would jump in on either side? If the U.S. becomes universally recognized as an agent in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, would that not also potentially put us here in danger? What sensitive intelligence does the United States' enemies have on the U.S. as a result of Trump's stupid, shiftless, irresponsible ass sharing with the Russians whom he had behind closed doors in the Oval Office? With the U.S. now having been the sole dissenting vote resulting in a veto of a U.N. resolution to pause the conflict to provide humanitarian aid, what will be the reaction of other nations?
Right now there is a worldwide travel warning for Americans issued today.
I feel like you have to know when to "fold 'em".
People picking sides is ridiculous. Hamas butchered innocent people and I see black folks screaming "they are on stolen land".
Yes, so are you. If native Americans ran through the street shooting people, I highly doubt you'd pack up and leave. After all, it's their land.
Israel has the region on lock. Killing Israelies (who are clueless to even their own history) is waste of time and begets more violence. And you know their side is way more destructive than yours.
And at the same time, if your brother, mother, children etc. we're killed (Palestinian) you would NEVER forgive or forget what Israel did to you. Revenge would consume your mind daily. Logic be damned.
This logic is too much for BGOL.
Wrong is wrong.
Wipe them mufuckaz off the map.
If Mexicans ran across the US border and did that shit,guess what?....within 3 weeks or less it wouldn't be no more Mexico.
Wipe them mufuckaz off the map.
If Mexicans ran across the US border and did that shit,guess what?....within 3 weeks or less it wouldn't be no more Mexico.
I agree. But aren't these people the ones that install and empower the government? In the minds of some, they may justify it because in a democracy the people are the ones with the power.
And Americans wouldn't be screaming about "restraint" like they are telling Israel.
I hate seeing Palestinians suffer and be killed, shit is horrible. Hamas attacked though when things were pretty quiet.
I said the same thing, It's inevitable that they can't win at this point In time. Hamas Is so radical, they probably believe In making martyrs out of everyone. just to make a statement.
More organized for whites. They have had a lot of rehearsals. They rehearsed in New Orleans and other places. America stopped South Africa from standing up for themselves after Botha used genocide on them. America was involved in the genocide in Rwanda and Libya. The genocide in Libya by the so called rebels was swept under the rug and America helped with the genocide of blacks in Libya. And we know the history of America when it comes to genocide
Word. They took everyone's life and threw it in a wood chipper.
And everyone screaming for Israel to "stand down" are ignorant. No modern country on the planet would "stand down" after that brutal attack. Not one.
And with that logic, Native Americans should be able to kill anyone in America - because we're on their land and the citizens are being complicit by just living here?
Most of the Jewish settlers are just like Americans, so far removed from the history of the region that they are practically just living their lives, sprinkle in a little religious and national propaganda and they complete believe they are supposed to be there.
All correct. If the Indians had the muscle you can best believe some of them would be ready to let blood flow in the streets. Its a dangerous game to discount the evils of the past. Especially if you're among an oppressed group. As black people we damn sure should not forget about past crimes especially when the crackas you think are blameless are still reaping the benefits of their ancestors sins.
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And that's what makes them tethers. The ones who can't even see our plight.
You mean in the media?
Ya'll are some clowns, like no critical thinking involved or needed to reach these conclusions.
I'll bet 99% of Palestinians not in Hamas would rather things go back to how they were before as opposed to how they are now.
It's easy to play internet revolutionary when you have nothing at risk. Go move to Gaza today and put your money where your mouth is.
I'm sorry, what exactly are you risking again?
I'm not the one playing internet revolutionary and defending Hamas and this war.
The similarities between the Palestinians and the Native Americans is that they both had their land stolen by white supremacists. They also fought the imperialist settlers. But in the end, they were outgunned. That's too light of a word. They were genocided by whites.
90% of them were wiped out. That's 4,700,000 people.
In our lifetime the condition of Native Americans and the plight of the Palestinians are not the same. The Native Americans are not living under a system of apartheid. There is not a single Native American present day that does not have the freedom to go where they want to go or live where they want to live in this country. There are no laws against those things. As a collective they are not having to have their streets patrolled by soldiers and having their houses knocked down, mass forced homelessness and people randomly and locked up and murdered in massacres. This is what Palestinians have been dealing with for several decades up until the present.
In Israel, every Israeli is required to serve time in the armed forces at the age is 18. Very different from here. The Palestinian situation has a lot more in common with the system of apartheid in South Africa.
The killing of innocent people is wrong.
Reasonable people who are against what Israel is doing right now are not defending the killing of Israeli innocents by Hamas. They are saying that the answer is not to turn around and genocide the Palestinians. They are recognizing that what is happening wouldn't be happening had the State of Israel not been oppressing these people all these years. They are also recognizing that there is something wrong with the U.S. continuing to give financial aid in the billions and weapons to that imperialist regime who is already wealthy and has the greatest military strength in the Middle East (But these same United States powers that be like to act like they don't have money for Black folks for reparations. But I digress.). They are realizing the U.S. has bloody hands. They are seeing how the official U.S. position continues to say "I support the right of Israel to defend itself" and to not officially recognize Palestine as a state, when 138 out of the 193 members of U.N. states in the world do recognize them.
It's just not right.
But it is white.
Never has the United States adopted the motto, "I support the right of Palestine to defend itself". And they SHOULD have all along. To adopt the motto saying Israel has that right is to give a bully dap for bullying and making him out to be the victim. And here in America if you call it out, they're quick to label you as an antisemite. This is also an extension of racism and white supremacy.
I don't believe it's a matter of picking sides either, brother. We are agreed. Not saying that you are doing this, but to confine the conversation to the recent bombing of Israel by Hamas is not telling the whole story.
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But most Jews in Israel aren’t “white” despite what Netanyahu looks like the rest of the country doesn’t look like that so when people keep saying white it ain’t true. Most of those people look like Palestinians themselves .
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