People mad at Noah Lyles for his comment about the NBA

Gilbert wasn't doing anything but yelling the entire time. He had no real argument.
The 1st brother that said Popovich said the same thing as Lyles and nobody questioned Pop cause he is white.
That is the brother who won the argument. If you don't play other countries you are not World Champs, it's that simple.
I understand you have the best players and you would probably win if there was a world tournament.

The USA Olympic team has the only real claim to being World Champs, that is the true answer.
he a fool

i will leave this two vids first vid explains it perfectly and even SAS had to walk his comments back


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1. You're ignoring the dismissive tone in his voice.

2. It's not a domestic league. Over a quarter of the players are foreigners. Do Serbia, Slovenia, Latvia, and Lithuania even have track teams? Lol. They're all represented in the NBA. You're focusing on where the games are played instead of who is playing them.
i agree every body agrees
dont mean he wrong also he never said nba sucks
u ask him he will say nba the best nobody in his right mind will say otherwise
at least not me


second part is wrong doesnt even make sense
just cause the best player play there
u still have to do the work to proof it
 
I would call the NBA champion, the World Champion because if you take the champions of the Euro leagues or Australian league or Middle East teams or Southeast Asia teams and put them in the NBA Does anyone think that they would winThe NBA championship?
 
I would call the NBA champion, the World Champion because if you take the champions of the Euro leagues or Australian league or Middle East teams or Southeast Asia teams and put them in the NBA Does anyone think that they would winThe NBA championship?

The #8 seed Miami Heat were in the finals this year.

I do believe there have been years where the NBA champion would not beat an all-star team from another country. Some years they would.

That should be that standard-- Not champion of a specific league. Because international teams exist. So your argument casts the Denver Nuggets in a team USA role, where they are claiming to be better than the best talent from any of those countries.
 
i agree every body agrees
dont mean he wrong also he never said nba sucks
u ask him he will say nba the best nobody in his right mind will say otherwise
at least not me


second part is wrong doesnt even make sense
just cause the best player play there
u still have to do the work to proof it

Not only do they prove it every four years, they prove it every two years. As long as the best Americans are out there we win virtually every time.

What international team could beat any recent NBA championship team?
 
I would call the NBA champion, the World Champion because if you take the champions of the Euro leagues or Australian league or Middle East teams or Southeast Asia teams and put them in the NBA Does anyone think that they would winThe NBA championship?

They've explained to us that globally, the NBA is a local tournament.

And the NBA champion needs to compete against, and beat countries with their country's name on the front of their jerseys to truly be a world champion.

The NBA being the best league with the best players from all over the world doesn't matter. What matters is that it's not teams representing their specific countries playing each other.

Even though we know that the winner of the current FIBA Basketball World Cup won't be the best team in the world.

Noah and some others in this thread will consider them the "World Champions" because they're playing with their countries names on the front of their jerseys.


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International players playing in your league does not make it a world league or a world title. If I have a basketball league that's just in NJ and all my franchises are in NJ but I get all the best players from the US to come to my league. Does that make my title the national title? No having the best players is not what a world title is. A world title means you are the best team in the WORLD that year. If you don't play any other teams from any other countries how are you the best TEAM in the WORLD?

Which team outside of the NBA could beat the Denver Nuggets in a series?
 
Which team outside of the NBA could beat the Denver Nuggets in a series?

It doesn't matter who I think could beat the Denver Nuggets you don't think your way to a title you play. I didn't think they were going to win the title before they did does that make them less of a NBA Champion? I can't just call myself a world champion by way of everyone's opinion. You have to play. If you don't play a worldwide tournament how are you a world champion?

So I win a tournament in a NATIONAL league everyone considers the best so by way of that I am champion of the WORLD? Is that the argument we are going with? So why not make the NBA champion whoever wins what everyone considers the best division. Or make the state champion in football whoever wins the best division tournament.

This is why the College National Champion in football was shit for years. It was based on everyones opinion instead of playing. You can't consensus your way to a title.
 
It doesn't matter who I think could beat the Denver Nuggets you don't think your way to a title you play. I didn't think they were going to win the title before they did does that make them less of a NBA Champion? I can't just call myself a world champion by way of everyone's opinion. You have to play. If you don't play a worldwide tournament how are you a world champion?

So I win a tournament in a NATIONAL league everyone considers the best so by way of that I am champion of the WORLD? Is that the argument we are going with? So why not make the NBA champion whoever wins what everyone considers the best division. Or make the state champion in football whoever wins the best division tournament.

This is why the College National Champion in football was shit for years. It was based on everyones opinion instead of playing. You can't consensus your way to a title.

So basically you know No team outside the world would beat the NBA champions in a series which is why they’re world champions….
 
The #8 seed Miami Heat were in the finals this year.

I do believe there have been years where the NBA champion would not beat an all-star team from another country. Some years they would.

That should be that standard-- Not champion of a specific league. Because international teams exist. So your argument casts the Denver Nuggets in a team USA role, where they are claiming to be better than the best talent from any of those countries.
What I meant was if we're taking it like Noah wants to take it. That means that the nuggets are the champion of the US &Canada So I said what euro or any other professional league team would beat them. Not some All Star team that comprises of every great player in that league. And as far as united states versus the world, we have that in the olympics & world championships.
 
Then these clowns wanna talk about how the league is fixed.

Is Noah a WWE track star like your average NBA/NFL player.

Too much money on the line for it to be fate.

 
LOL you right they really shouldn't even play the game right. Everybody show up and just decide whos the best team based on your opinion right. LOL.

I don't disagree that America has the best talent. But if you get to say your the best in the World and you don't actually play any other country I don't see how that works. And it's not the whole NBA it's one team that gets to say they are the World Champ. You telling me them 12 guys get to say they are the best team in the World that year by winning one tournament in the US?
it's kind of obvious. I understand technically, but come on, look at how our D squad is doing against the Olympics now. Merking teams by 40.
 
Which team outside of the NBA could beat the Denver Nuggets in a series?
I guarantee you there are league champions of certain leagues that would compete with the NUGGETS....After all, how competitive were the LAKERS to the Nuggets? 4-0. Or the Heat 4-1? Pretty sure a number of league champions could do that well !!!!!!! Spain, France, Italy, Israel...some of the other EuroLeague teams could absolutely compete with the NBA teams.

How well do you think the Rocket, Pistons, Magic, Nets, Pacers, Spurs, Jazz, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors. would do in the EuroLeague????? They would definitely NOT outclass or dominate those leagues. As for Denver, they beat everybody BUT they didn't play the other leagues champs so they are NOT World Champions. But really good NBA Champions.
 
I guarantee you there are league champions of certain leagues that would compete with the NUGGETS....After all, how competitive were the LAKERS to the Nuggets? 4-0. Or the Heat 4-1? Pretty sure a number of league champions could do that well !!!!!!! Spain, France, Italy, Israel...some of the other EuroLeague teams could absolutely compete with the NBA teams.

How well do you think the Rocket, Pistons, Magic, Nets, Pacers, Spurs, Jazz, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors. would do in the EuroLeague????? They would definitely NOT outclass or dominate those leagues. As for Denver, they beat everybody BUT they didn't play the other leagues champs so they are NOT World Champions. But really good NBA Champions.

I know you typed this just to troll but it’s still pathetic…and I can’t take you seriously.
 
An unprovoked handpicking of a league with a Black face to boogey man and disparage on the national stage is indeed a serious problem. It plays into a narrative to undermine and over criticize. More importantly, the comment was silly and poorly thought out and articulated. He clearly was attention whoring.. So let the muthafucka deal wit all this attention.


He's the one that was sensitive though.... he had just done a great thing, but instead of basking in his own accomplishment, he for some reason decided to go after a league in a whole different sport for a stupid reason... and he was talking like it hurt him personally. So yeah, it's not that serious, but he decided to put it out there. We're just debating his stupidity for making an unforced error.


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So,yall mad that he told the truth.


Yes,the NBA is the best league in the world but it only competes with teams inside the United States. Until,NBA teams start compete with other teams outside the United States;it makes no fucking sense to call a NBA champion;a world champion..

Hell,the NBA is short for National Basketball Association but folks want to say the NBA champs are world champions....lol...It's a sad day,when people don't know the difference between the word national vs world..
 
So,yall mad that he told the truth.
Nah.. we "mad" because hes on the global stage on some half coon shit saying how disturbed he is at the idea of it all.
Until,NBA teams start compete with other teams outside the United States;it makes no fucking sense to call a NBA champion;a world champion..
The implication is that its the best ball and players in the world.. Same league whose players are currently mopping the "world" up in international play as we speak.
..It's a sad day,when people don't know the difference between the word national vs world..
Sadder day when a nigga cant grasp the concept that that aint the issue at all.
 
NATIONAL basketball association How difficult is that to understand. US best professional league champion. Not "World" Champion
 
Give us names of these basketball players playing internationally that are better than NBA players? Every foreign player of note is scouted and if they are talented enough almost always choose to play in the NBA for the salaries, notoriety, and access to the United States (richest country in the world). Ricky Rubio was one of the best Euro players and held out coming to the NBA for awhile. He finally came and he's just a guy in the league. The best players play in the States in the NBA. Noah is pandering to an international crowd that doesn't like "American exceptionalism", dissing his core audience to go after new fans.
60-75% of the NBA PLAYERS could be replaced by international players and the league would still be the same. 25% of players are the top of top. Look at the roster of some of those non playoff teams, stocked with players too young and not good, yet, and journeymen. Top 4-5 are good. Look at Denver. Top 6 were good, everyone else replaceable. REAL TALK
 
What I meant was if we're taking it like Noah wants to take it. That means that the nuggets are the champion of the US &Canada So I said what euro or any other professional league team would beat them. Not some All Star team that comprises of every great player in that league. And as far as united states versus the world, we have that in the olympics & world championships.
Olympic teams aren’t league teams….also elite Olympic teams are full of NBA players…..

I think it makes a lot more sense to look at the teams that play on a global stage internationally than these little artificial subgroups that change every year.

If you're going to claim to be the world champion you should be able to beat Slovania or France or whoever.

If your rebuttal to that is it is apples and oranges... That's precisely the point!
 
The NBA is the best basketball league in The World.

As I said before, a month ago the sports world didn't know who Noah Lyles was.

Now the sports world knows that he's a dumbass.
Okay...that doesn't make them the World Champs though. It's pompous American shit to have a league with national teams competing and calling the winner a World Champion. Michael Phelps is a world champion because he competed against the world.
 
does ANYONE say they are the world champs other than this queer ass dude?


I mean I dont think it says world champions on the trophy right?


man, i wish i never heard this dude talk....im gettin dude from baby boy vibes

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Baseball calls their champion the World Series champs.
The little league world series is actually international and has teams from Japan and Mexico playing.
 
Okay...that doesn't make them the World Champs though. It's pompous American shit to have a league with national teams competing and calling the winner a World Champion. Michael Phelps is a world champion because he competed against the world.

See my previous posts.

On a side note. Steph's the best shooter ever. I don't need to see Wolfgang and his stats representing Germany in The World Games to know that.
 
If he would have said nfl, I'd be like cool
Nope. If we're sticking to this nonsensical BS , Jay Ajaiya is from the UK, Jordan Mailata is Austrailian, Nelson Agohlor is Nigerian.

Dudes are in their feelings here and not thinking clearly. The NBA isn't an international league, therefore you can't claim the winner is a world champion. Golf and tennis are world sports because the player's country's flag is displayed next their name and they receive world rankings. Just because some Nicaraguan immigrant is working in the back of an Olive Garden doesn't make it a global restaurant.
 
I think it makes a lot more sense to look at the teams that play on a global stage internationally than these little artificial subgroups that change every year.

If you're going to claim to be the world champion you should be able to beat Slovania or France or whoever.

If your rebuttal to that is it is apples and oranges... That's precisely the point!

Slovakia and France aren’t franchise teams….if Slovakia plays Dallas then they wouldn’t have Luka cuz he plays for Dallas….what would that outcome be?

Also any player who plays in a league outside the NBA is there because they couldn’t make an NBA roster….let that marinate
 
I see a lot of emotional responses to this take. People calling him gay, ignorant and all kinds of shit just because he makes the point that the NBA Champs are considered world champions. Maybe it’s the messenger and not the message, but for a lot of people reacting as if he said the NBA is complete and utter trash is ridiculous.

You know exactly what he meant and he wasn’t wrong about his take. Hell, I’ve always said it that too, but enough to argue about it. Lmao! Y’all act like he just smacked y’all’s mamas or some shit.

No one is arguing that some of the best players in the world play in the NBA. There’s no argument there. No one is arguing that USA team is built with NBA players. To bring up those points doesn’t make what he’s saying invalid. Lmao

There is only one team in the league that is from a different country and that is Toronto. I can understand if the league played teams across seas during the season and those teams had a chance to play for an NBA chip. Obviously, that would be very difficult to manage on a global scale.

So by that point, he’s correct. The league isn’t technically world champs. I get why they say it, but let’s not act like dude is completely off with this take.
Word. This board is filled with educated and intelligent black men, so I know they know how words work. The deflection of calling dude gay and dumb is mad unnecessary, and really fucking childish. The NBA isn't an international competition, that point can't be argued with just because people come from different places to work here. If I went to Spain and worked at a mom and pop printing store, that doesn't make them an international company all of a sudden.
 
Slovakia and France aren’t franchise teams….if Slovakia plays Dallas then they wouldn’t have Luka cuz he plays for Dallas….what would that outcome be?

Also any player who plays in a league outside the NBA is there because they couldn’t make an NBA roster….let that marinate

Obviously these fantasy match-ups don't work in cases like the Bucks vs Greece. But you can always measure the NBA team against another team.

Your second point is not historically true. Arvydas Sabonis was a top center in the world playing overseas, while the NBA still proclaimed its title winner world champion. Hell, are you claiming Victor Wembanyama wasn't good enough to make an NBA roster while teams were tanking to acquire him this year?
 
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