Not One 8th Grade Student From LeBron James' School Has Passed A Math Test Since 2020
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Yeah you right, that ain't gonna change. School has become day care, and our economic system NEEDS kids to be out of sight and mind for a least 7 hours a day.
What role do you think disruptive students and the easing of disciplinary actions in the past 20 years have played in modern day public school education?
Covid.
It’s discouraging teachers from entering the field. It’s also causing teachers to fall behind on the curriculum. Since failing students isn’t really an option now of days, we have students that probably shouldn’t be in school causing issues.
GED and HS diplomas hold about the same weight today. However, we got a “we don’t know what to do with these kids” problem in school. And Covid has made things so much worse.
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I was about to add this for clarification and caution. There is no way possible zero students passed; what likely is the case is that the school missed the metric provided by some dumb-board filled with muhfukahs who’ve never taught a day in their lives. I have taught in both charter and public schools and in the private sector (charter), if you do not have a pass rate over their target, they will simply say “…this school failed.” and discredit the work and progress of students and staff. Additionally, that Covid shutdown literally erased two years of educational progress and causes most students to regress immeasurably. The sixth graders I taught last year were all roughly at a third grade level, and that made perfect sense.
Yeah I understand what you're saying and that's probably what happened but the article made sure to print the words “not one 8th grade student passed a math test“ and I just can't see that happening and would hope others did too
I mean I guess that depends on where you teach because if I knew my kid's classmates were 2-3 grades behind that would be an issue for me. Pandemic or not.
FACTS!
Back In Georgia we used to have Graduation tests.
I went to Cobb County Schools and in my homeroom of 30+ people I was the only black male who passed every section on the first try(2007). It wasnt the "Worst" school either.
If parents dont take an interest in their kids you see this happen eventually.
I went to Cobb County Schools and in my homeroom of 30+ people I was the only black male who passed every section on the first try(2007). It wasnt the "Worst" school either.
If parents dont take an interest in their kids you see this happen eventually.
Yet the elites from other countries send their kids here to learn.
Its one thing to pour money into a program, but what makes the difference is the follow up after the class bell rings. If these kids aren't getting tutored after school and regularly checked for progress, that money's just there for the donor's sake. 
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So the school opened in 2018, meaning any 8th-grade student scores they are using already had a bad foundation .
Not to mention the focus was on those most in need.
The article is based on bullshit incomplete metrics
Urban schools teach standardized tests that are used for funding
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Please do not forget the effect the pandemic had on these kids education
ESPECIALLY in MATH
So why exactly do you think "these students" perform so badly? What is it exactly?
Yeah, I mentioned that in another post. It’s definitely a huge effect.
But that only accelerated what was already happening in education.
Been saying that kids only need school for 4 days a week (parents should only work 4 days a week also).
It’s a dated paradigm used when life was a little slower for people and one income could support the entire family.
Them days are long gone.
It’s not emphasized in our community. It has to be nurtured and supported. Those that are good at it don’t have anyone to turn to help.
Plus, we all too often call certain maths meaningless because we don’t use it daily, but that meaningless math is the foundation for higher sciences.
Family…it’s a HUGE deal for me as well because the county expects these kids to be “proficient” or higher or else it’s a knock on me. The issue is that these kids clearly lack a real educational support system at home or live in communities that don’t value education.
Like some of ya’ll said:
Parents think school is daycare and we’re expected to fix the issues that they cannot.
I give them some game and found a way to blend rigor and engagement, but if there is not continuity when they leave the building and go home, none of that matters.
I agree with everything you said, especially the last paragraph. That shit hit home for real, and it’s damn near deflating at times.
You spend all your energy teaching, disciplining, and motivating just to see all that shit to get washed as soon as they leave.
And the audacity of the school system to lay upon teachers things they can’t control is why I’m like fuck it all. I stick around because I have the ability to inspire, so I catch a few. That’s enough to keep me going. But the overwhelming majority of the kids I taught got bigger problems at home.
Middle school math is NOT hard though. Its simply about practice and following instructions. Any kid could go on Khan Academy, or hell even youtube, and get detailed explanations for any problem they come across. The parents can too to help their kids.
This result of this school just shows laziness.
You gotta have the right and qualified teachers as well to be able to teach math being creative to keep those kids engaged.
Yes, the parents must do their part but it's the teacher job to make sure they're teaching them kids to be great in math.
Same here for me in the late 90's. That graduation test was the reason a lot of niggas didn't graduate even after having good grades. At that time it was required to even walk at the graduation.
Why does it need to be taught "creatively"?
Math is simply a hard skill which the foundation for many other things are built. You dont teach a pilot how to fly by starting with acrobatic moves. You teach them the basics and when the basics are down you can bring in other things the kids might find fun such as engineering, game development...ect. You teach the foundation first though, and you give it to them straight.
I think we shortchange our kids by trying to make everything "Interesting" or "Fun". The people who get ahead in life arent the ones who are trying to make every second a good time. Its about the grind, doing something that someone else doesnt want to do so much so that they pay you nicely for it. Then, you can do whatever the hell you want when you have that freedom, but you have to work to get there. The parents who are ablt to teach their kids that hard lesson end up making the winners.
They ended up having to get rid of it all together I think because folks were kicking up a storm.
If you remember the UGA running back Caleb King(who I believe used to post on this forum) literally had to drop out of his public high school as a junior and graduate from a private school because he couldnt pass the test. Now I agree that teachers failed him, but you have to take responsibility for your kids at some point. If they are your legacy you should want whats best for them, and yes its going to be hard work. YOU gotta make sure they are learning. If you dont then the world will eat them up. Its even bigger to me now because I work for a big tech company in Atlanta and I see the way these fucking Indians drill their kids. Fucking Kumon in the evenings ALL YEAR, coding camps through the summer, paying some 18 year girl from Peru or Panama(who the dads are almost always fucking on the side) "Au Pair" to have their kids speaking fluent spanish in Elementary school. Shits wild. This is the competition in the Atlanta now. You cant be average with these immigrant and their kids because the little bit of compassion you might have got out of a white person down here wont be present with them. These folks are killers, and their little Vivek Ramaswamys will make life a living hell for you and your kids in the future.
If I remember right it was 3 parts, math, science and writing. I passed all mine on the first shot but that bitch was definitely hard.
@Chiyo You seem to be a teacher the way you comment.
But back then these teachers weren't shit and couldn't teach worth a damn, because they could show you how to solve a math problem but not in a way a person could understand it. Me and my classmates would still be confused as fuck and frustrated as shit trying to solve math problems in high school back then!
But back then these teachers weren't shit and couldn't teach worth a damn, because they could show you how to solve a math problem but not in a way a person could understand it. Me and my classmates would still be confused as fuck and frustrated as shit trying to solve math problems in high school back then!
LOL you think this is a hollywood movie or something...Michelle Pfeiffer ain't walking into these classrooms
The system needs to find ways to filter out kids who frankly are done with school after 8th grade, some form of apprenticeships and other skilled trade training for kids who have no interest in STEM or reading/writing and have no plans of going to college. It's a waste of time and resources to make kids who don't give a shit about school at all to magically care about advance math. Not to mention the stress added to teachers who are judged by if they can pull off this damn near impossible task.
I vaguely remember it taking a week to do. Not sure on the sections, but I do believe most people were failing the science part specifically.
Im no teacher. I am a Software engineer, but I was a tutor to kids in the Atlanta area during college so I have seen up close how it goes down.
I do agree there were, and are, bad teachers. Too many other avenues to learn math now to blame them solely though. These kids have videos at their fingertips of people teaching this shit for free. No excuses.
True, I remembered back then, my high school was pushing that you should go to college hard. I ended up going to job corps to learn a trade in construction. I mean, not everybody wants to go to college and want to learn all this advanced math shit. But the problem is the curriculum has that for every student in school when most students don't want it or need it. I really wished schools had more options for kids to learn from or trades they could partake in to see what they like and want to do after they graduate from middle school and high school.
The biggest issue when I was in school was that if you werent headed to college you were viewed as a loser. So counselors, and teachers, would push kids to college who had no business being there.....and honestly we have too many colleges in the first place for people who have no business being there.
In Georgia alone our tax dollars go to fund schools like:
Savannah State University:
Average GPA: 2.7
Average SAT: 940(OUT OF 1600!)
Graduation rate: 28.2%
Fort Valley State University:
Average GPA: 2.8
Average SAT: 570(OUT OF 1600!)
Graduation rate: 35.2%
Albany State University:
Average GPA: 2.9
Average SAT: 830(OUT OF 1600!)
Graduation rate: 26.9%
If the kids who wasted time going to these schools just took the same money and went into a trade they would be in a much better position, but its simply not where we push kids towards.
I wholeheartedly agree and those that went to trade school are making way more money than people who went to college.
Most of the time depending on what trade someone wants to do, they would only need a certification to make 6 figures.
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