Black / Native American Question for the Fam?
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I applaud your efforts. That said, I've known a good number of people that incur some emotional damage looking into their roots. A guy I worked with found out one of his GG Grandfathers disappeared from StLou. in 1900 leaving a wife an five children, never to be heard from again. His family assumed he'd been killed for publicly threatening a white man. He just found out the man ran away to CA and started over with a new mexican wife, and had three more children. They had a small farm that grew to over 500 acres in the Napa area and became solidly upper middle class. Mean time the family he abandoned stayed in the hood, and never really progressed. He was the first of them to finish college. When he reached out to his CA relatives they denied the relationship. Then he started looking for his GG Grandmothers records, just to spook them.
This sounds similar to my wife's Grandfather. I've been researching her side of the family as well as my own.
We found out that her Grandfather had two families, one in Mississippi and the other in Missouri. My wife's father never knew this, and we haven't told him either. He just said that he didn't know much about his Dad, except that he was a mean man growing up. He said that he never heard him laugh and never seen him smile.
I figure traveling between two states, feeding two separate families, and keeping it all a secret were taking a toll on him; so he couldn't be joyous. That's just my guess though.
Yeah, I've heard of lots of men with multiple families back in the day. My own grandfather worked for the railroad back in the 50's, traveling the whole country and my grandmother told me she hated all work his friends for that very reason. To our knowledge he never had any other wives or kids.
My relative just hit me up this morning through text. He said that there's a cemetery in Fairfield, Freestone, Texas that has nothing but the Mims family in it.
I have to visit there. It looks like things are coming together. You search your tail off for several months, then you hit a wall. You'll find nothing for several months. Then, shit just opens up.
I have to visit there. It looks like things are coming together. You search your tail off for several months, then you hit a wall. You'll find nothing for several months. Then, shit just opens up.
Good info bruh, the brainwash/mindfucking runs deep.. Its hard for folks to swallow the fact they have been lied too in the worst ways!! But if they would just start reading all these damn treaties and get from in front of that damn television and stop believing those damn indoctrination centers!! But aint nobody listening, so the illusion carries on and on!!
Update Fam:
I was doing more research on my G-G-Grandmother who was an Apache Indian, and we found out that they listed her as "neg" (Negro) on the 1930 Census (the last row on the pic They named her Ella, we don't know what her real native name was). She was around 50 years old in 1930.
She was born in 1880. What's interesting though was the column "Place of Birth" (columns 19 and 20 for her parents my G-G-G-Grands). For my G-G-Grandma, it says that she was born in Texas. But for her parents, they have them born in the "United States." They were born in "Indian Territory" so they didn't use a state as a place of birth.
I was doing more research on my G-G-Grandmother who was an Apache Indian, and we found out that they listed her as "neg" (Negro) on the 1930 Census (the last row on the pic They named her Ella, we don't know what her real native name was). She was around 50 years old in 1930.
She was born in 1880. What's interesting though was the column "Place of Birth" (columns 19 and 20 for her parents my G-G-G-Grands). For my G-G-Grandma, it says that she was born in Texas. But for her parents, they have them born in the "United States." They were born in "Indian Territory" so they didn't use a state as a place of birth.
Peace to the tribe
Like I been saying
Black was here in america also
We are not African
Like I been saying
Black was here in america also
We are not African
I laugh at this shit. Where do you think the black skinned folk came from that those colonizers saw when they got here. White folk want to be known as the first to be here, but in fact, Africans have been travelling the oceans since boats were made. We don't colonize we civilize.
BLACK DOES NOT ONLY COME FROM AFRICA
Lemme ask u a question
U gonna take the feather and stay HERE IN AMERICA
OR
U gonna wear the sandals and go over to Africa
People u talking about are American Negros
They delineated from us already
We either a Akata from a african
Or a Yankee from the West Indies
Dude, the foundation of humanity comes from Africa. Please read they came before columbus. And other books.
I think that will be what we will do.
Greetings Fam, this is just another update in my ancestral journey.
This pic was sent to me by one of my cousins in Louisiana. This is one of my maternal Great-Grandmothers... She was Chahta (Choctow). She passed away in 2005 right before her 104 birthday. She was born in 1901 around St. Joseph Louisiana.
This was the youngest picture that I've ever seen of her. I remember her as being older all of the time, so this was great for me to see. I remember talking with her in the early 90s. I asked her one time, "While you all were picking cotton and sharecropping, what were the white folks doing?"
She said, "Sitting on they ass on the porch drinking lemonade watching us." I was like, "Damn."
She told me stories about how she saw white folks hanging Black and all of that nonsense. I was blessed to have gotten a chance to meet her and converse with her. I wish I had a different mindset back then, because I really could have gotten more knowledge from her. But I wasn't ready.
This pic was sent to me by one of my cousins in Louisiana. This is one of my maternal Great-Grandmothers... She was Chahta (Choctow). She passed away in 2005 right before her 104 birthday. She was born in 1901 around St. Joseph Louisiana.
This was the youngest picture that I've ever seen of her. I remember her as being older all of the time, so this was great for me to see. I remember talking with her in the early 90s. I asked her one time, "While you all were picking cotton and sharecropping, what were the white folks doing?"
She said, "Sitting on they ass on the porch drinking lemonade watching us." I was like, "Damn."
She told me stories about how she saw white folks hanging Black and all of that nonsense. I was blessed to have gotten a chance to meet her and converse with her. I wish I had a different mindset back then, because I really could have gotten more knowledge from her. But I wasn't ready.
Speak for.yourself
Greetings Fam, this is just another update in my ancestral journey.
This pic was sent to me by one of my cousins in Louisiana. This is one of my maternal Great-Grandmothers... She was Chahta (Choctow). She passed away in 2005 right before her 104 birthday. She was born in 1901 around St. Joseph Louisiana.
This was the youngest picture that I've ever seen of her. I remember her as being older all of the time, so this was great for me to see. I remember talking with her in the early 90s. I asked her one time, "While you all were picking cotton and sharecropping, what were the white folks doing?"
She said, "Sitting on they ass on the porch drinking lemonade watching us." I was like, "Damn."
She told me stories about how she saw white folks hanging Black and all of that nonsense. I was blessed to have gotten a chance to meet her and converse with her. I wish I had a different mindset back then, because I really could have gotten more knowledge from her. But I wasn't ready.
Right on, Write on, Bruh..
Thats cool brotha.. I was lucky to have 2 great grandma that lived to be 107 and 104. The one that was 104 came from LA and ended up living in Houston(Im still doing research on her).. The one that lived to be 107 lived her whole life in Cheneyville LA and I was lucky to spend every summer with her until I was 16yrs.. I consider myself very lucky, both of my great grandma passes when I was 39yrs old and I got to spend lots of time with them.. That was a good and bad thing.. The bad thing was, I wasnt thinking about the past as much as Im thinking about it the past 10yrs.. Now Im stuck putting in the work to find out the past thru searching census records and those things..
Anyway bruh, keep up the hard work and dodge the highjack!!!
Thank you Brother...
I was fortunate enough to meet two of my Great-Grandmas... The one in the pic, and one of my father's Grandmothers. I know I'm blessed because I got the chance to lay eyes on them and to hear their voices. I was able to hug and hear one person who was born in 19th century, and the other one who was born in 1901. No one can tell me that I'm not blessed.
Brother, I really wish our people would stop with all of the damn doubting and start researching. I found out that I have a 12th Great-Grandmother from Virginia who was from the "Pamunkey" tribe (Powatan Confederation). I had never heard of the Pamunkey or the Powhatan until I started researching. The only reason I can tell you this is because her father married her off to a white man named "Croshaw". They had a daughter and married her off to white man named "West". They had a daughter, and married her off to a white man named "Martin". Then they had a daughter and married her off to a white man named "Mims". Then they had a son, and that's where the Mims' in my family came from.
Indians didn't keep records of births and deaths. But fortunately for me, the whites did. I don't care about the white lineage in my family; I'm not curious about them at all. But I'm extremely curious about the Indian and the African lines.
Bruh, let me encourage you. Put in the damn work. Your mind and your soul will be rewarded. It may not bring you any money or fame or anything like that. But you'll know your family's true story, while everyone else is guessing.
Find Your Tribe!
Thats sum good information. I got sum good information on my dads side of the family.. I got them all the way back to 1800 in NC.. I spent a week or two going thru those census records.. But they offered a lot of info.. Im sure if and when I really start digging into papers and books in that area I will get flooded with info..
Yours so damn right, if folks would just do sum researching and reading, they will find out that someone or someones been lying for along azz time.. Once you start digging into this so called history stuff, folks will start seeing that they(the corporation) have spent BILLIONS OF DOLLARS YEARLY to hide the truth right in front of our eyes!!
Yes, I have a ton of work ahead of me. Im not into this for any money or anything like that.. This is just for my own satisfaction and grandkids. Anyway, Im going to keep digging into my past and if I run across something interesting Ill be around here sharing that info with ya.. Keep up with the good research and happy findings to ya..
You was claiming Haitian Joan you native American. Pick an identity and stop trolling.
Now this is identity crisis. Ilyana vanzant know good and damn well her kook ass aint no injun. All I see is west African. Now if you feel you are native American a d can prove it in have nothing against it knick yourself out. To all this we was Russian ,Greek, etc shit we just claiming people that want nothing to do with us.
Black American only
This Hebrew Israelite shit got you brothers confused like a motherfucker. Without even picking up a history book. It is known by all of science that the foundation of humanity comes from Africa. Everybody comes from Africa. Just for fun, let's say that this shit started in Europe, Asia, or America. Still the beginning of everything starts with a dark hued person, thus, black as we have come to know us. In the end we are Africans.
Update Fam,Greetings Fam, this is just another update in my ancestral journey.
This pic was sent to me by one of my cousins in Louisiana. This is one of my maternal Great-Grandmothers... She was Chahta (Choctow). She passed away in 2005 right before her 104 birthday. She was born in 1901 around St. Joseph Louisiana.
This was the youngest picture that I've ever seen of her. I remember her as being older all of the time, so this was great for me to see. I remember talking with her in the early 90s. I asked her one time, "While you all were picking cotton and sharecropping, what were the white folks doing?"
She said, "Sitting on they ass on the porch drinking lemonade watching us." I was like, "Damn."
She told me stories about how she saw white folks hanging Black and all of that nonsense. I was blessed to have gotten a chance to meet her and converse with her. I wish I had a different mindset back then, because I really could have gotten more knowledge from her. But I wasn't ready.
I was going through the 1950 United States Federal Census and I found something interesting again, concerning my Great-Grandmother.
1) They re-classified her from Indian to "Negro (Black)."
2) They have her born in Tensas, Louisiana... but, when you look at the birth place for her father (my Great-Great-Grandfather), it doesn't say that he was born in an particular state. It say's that he was born in the "USA."
Again, from prior research, we already know that that means he was an Indigenous person. He's connected to the land of the United States, and not a State or City.
Update Fam,
I was going through the 1950 United States Federal Census and I found something interesting again, concerning my Great-Grandmother.
1) They re-classified her from Indian to "Negro (Black)."
2) They have her born in Tensas, Louisiana... but, when you look at the birth place for her father (my Great-Great-Grandfather), it doesn't say that he was born in an particular state. It say's that he was born in the "USA."
Again, from prior research, we already know that that means he was an Indigenous person. He's connected to the land of the United States, and not a State or City.
Right on, Write on, Brotha!! The sad thing is, its all hidden right in front of our faces!!!
Great post, bruh!!
Great video, bruh!!! Ive been pointing out the damage these indoctrination centers have done and continue to do!!! I wont even touch on what those HDTV are doing.. Anyway, keep dropping the information!!
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Update Fam,
I found my G-G-Grandfather in the records last week. Like I said earlier, my Grandfather just called him the "white Boy." I kept running into road blocks, then I had a break through.
My family said that his name was David. But David wasn't working... so I was stuck for over a year. Then, I found out "David" was his middle name. That made all of the difference in the world. His real name was "John David" (born 1859). Everything opened up after that. He was from Wales, England. He had a child by my G-G-Grandma (last name Mims, born in 1884) who the records say was a "Mulatto." They got together when she was 19 and he was 44. There's no marriage certificate, I'm guessing that she was a jump off for him. He is on my G-Grandfather's birth certificate though.
I also found out that the Mims family goes all the way to early Virginia. Virginia came about because of the Virginia Company (look it up if you want to). They created Jamestowne.
So without boring you with all of the details, I have a white relative, Thomas Mims (born 1681) who married a woman named Amelia Martin (born 1680), who was a daughter of a woman named Ursula (born 1658- also named after her mother who was born in 1632-10th and 11th Great-Grandmothers), who was the daughter of a Pamunkey Indian woman named Matachanna (born 1600- 12G-Grandmother)... who was the sister of a woman named Matoaka (better known as Pocahontas, 12th G-Grand Aunt). Their father was named Wahunsoncoch (better known a Powhatan). He was chief of the Powhatan Confederation. He's my 13th Great-Grandfather. He became chief because of his mother PauPauwiske. They were a matrilineal society. The lines ran through the women.
For all of the naysayers, the lineage is documented and recorded. So all of you pan-african brother/sisters can go some where else with your theories. I'm telling you facts... no conjecture.
Man look... Please! Please! Please do your genealogy. You have no idea as to what or who you're connected to. The "whiteout of our history is real. You'll look at this history thing a whole lot different once you "know." It won't hurt you at all. It is time consuming, that's for real... but it's worth it just for your own peace of mind.
Good luck, Fam.
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Greetings Fam, just another update.
I was able to pull down a 1910 United States Federal Census Report, today. It confirms what the 1930 census report says. It says that a set of my GGG-Grandparents on my Father's side were born in the "United States," while their child (my GG-Grandmother) was born in Texas.
At that time, they were considered to be American Indians from "Indian Territory." They're Indians, but their daughter is labeled "Black or Negro."
I have a screen shot of the report, but I didn't put it here because the report from 1930 pretty much says the same thing. But, I can post it anytime, just in case Hoteps, Pan Africans, or anti-Indian crews asks to see it.
Again, do your genealogy, Fam. You won't regret it.
I was able to pull down a 1910 United States Federal Census Report, today. It confirms what the 1930 census report says. It says that a set of my GGG-Grandparents on my Father's side were born in the "United States," while their child (my GG-Grandmother) was born in Texas.
At that time, they were considered to be American Indians from "Indian Territory." They're Indians, but their daughter is labeled "Black or Negro."
I have a screen shot of the report, but I didn't put it here because the report from 1930 pretty much says the same thing. But, I can post it anytime, just in case Hoteps, Pan Africans, or anti-Indian crews asks to see it.
Again, do your genealogy, Fam. You won't regret it.
RIGHT ON, WRITE ON, RIDE ON!!! BRUH!!
THIS CORPORATION IS BANKING ON US NOT READING!! BUT SITTING IN FRONT OF THE HDTV AND ACCEPTING THE PROGRAMMING. AND BELIEVING THESE INDOCTRINATION CENTERS & STRANGERS(AKA TEACHERS)!!! ANYWAY, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
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