TV: The Story Behind Leaving Neverland, the Michael Jackson Documentary That Stunned Sundance UPDATE! Lawsuit against HBO proceeds 2023!?
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Hmmmm.....is this how they will start to try to make child molestation normal now?
Hollywood is NUTS.
Use a powerful figure and name to draw attention and then implement the next "cause" after the #MeTooMovement
As Oprah and Wade said this is bigger than Michael(doesn't matter if it's true or not or ruins him use his name even in death to create the next cause).
Michael's accusers were "thrilled"
"STOP IN THE NAME OF LOVE"
Name dropping songs
As I always felt this is just one big game and a joke for ratings and sensationalism.
Fucking ridiculous
Hmmmm.....is this how they will start to try to make child molestation normal now?
Hollywood is NUTS.
Use a powerful figure and name to draw attention and then implement the next "cause" after the #MeTooMovement
As Oprah and Wade said this is bigger than Michael(doesn't matter if it's true or not or ruins him use his name even in death to create the next cause).
Michael's accusers were "thrilled"
"STOP IN THE NAME OF LOVE"
Name dropping songs
As I always felt this is just one big game and a joke for ratings and sensationalism.
Doesn't matter. The bitch is erasing her lineage anyways.
Who cares if he had that catalog? Had he lived he would have used the cash to have the most extravagant Peter pan themed wedding in history.
Nambla is pushing for those relationships as we speak.
Doesn't matter. The bitch is erasing her lineage anyways.
Well, at least Berry Gordy lineage is in there I suppose. Pioneer for the Diddys and Birdmans.
I REALLY hate when people say "My Truth". Truth is truth. It sometimes means "my perspective" and not necessarily the absolute truth which is why his case most likely got thrown out by the courts.
Here's another person who claims to understand body language saying pretty much the same thing.
A journalist who actually is using journalistic diligence in this interview.
This is why I said this thing is just a game for the media for ratings. Michael Jackson still brings in viewers from both ends of the spectrum and if the media did what that journalist above did it would have made the story not last this long for viewership.
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Time Stamps- Jordan chandler- 7:42
Gavin Arviso- 50:57
Wade Robson- 1:32:04
James Safechuck- 1:58:05
SOURCES:
the uncle of Jordy’s book All that Glitters https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Glitt...
Tape of Evan and David https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx8Z9...
Transcript of Evan and David https://www.mjfacts.com/evan-chandler...
Article in la times of search of MJ’s property http://articles.latimes.com/1993-08-2...
Jordan and dr Gardner’s transcript https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
La times article mj’s lawyers/ lapd https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-x...
mj defense(2005) motion of Blanca nJason Francia http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/...
variety article of motion to delay civil suit https://variety.com/1993/biz/news/jac...
Mj’s autopsy (pg 15) http://www.documentcloud.org/document...
California Code, Evidence Code - EVID § 1360 https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/evidence...
FBI files on mj https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson
2005 motion to dismiss heresy evidence http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/...
La times article criminal case still ongoing https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-x...
1993 Settlement pdf https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
All 2005 case court transcripts https://www.mjfacts.com/2005-michael-...
living with Michael Jackson doc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z34B...
My friend Michael book https://www.amazon.com/My-Friend-Mich...
Mary hollers testimony in 2005 trial https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
mj pr video (with Arviso’s) https://youtu.be/xUlDSoPzLLs https://youtu.be/Bez7QCXJJV4
prosecution’s Statement of Probable Cause https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
2005 juror wanted to laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z066V...
2005 juror thinks mj is guilty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWrY2...
’93 La times article/tapes not enough to indict https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-x...
motion filed by prosecution/mj infatuation with boys/men https://www.mjfacts.com/resources/011...
Michael Jackson: before he was king book https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackso...
Larry nimmers “a case for innocence” (11:47 13:05) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLQE...
What is the library of congress? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library...
The boy, a photographic essay in the US library of congress https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holding...
Boys will be boys in the US library of congress https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holding...
In search of young beauty in the US library of congress https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/holding...
Wade’s original claim https://www.mjfacts.com/wade-robson-p...
wades law suit, summary judgment (2017) https://www.scribd.com/document/36763...
2016 depositions of Joy Robson https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
Tom Mesereau Details on wades strength in 2005 case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy9ah...
wades public convictions of mj https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPSv_...
2016 deposition of wade https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
Motion for wade to compel w email reveal https://www.scribd.com/document/34187...
Wades emails between him and his mom https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
Supplemental Declaration of Claimant/Creditor James Safechuck in Support of Amended Petition for Order to Allow Filing of Late Claim Against Estate (filed on March 18, 2015) https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
James Safechuck amended complaint https://themichaeljacksonallegationsb...
California child sex abuse law http://gastelumlaw.com/statute-limita...
There needs to be a bigger budget, slicker production counter doc like this made & aired on Netflix. His estate is losing the game of optics big time.
no- they are notThere needs to be a bigger budget, slicker production counter doc like this made & aired on Netflix. His estate is losing the game of optics big time.
they have gotten the film maker back tracking multiple times since then
Also look at the information that is being shared in my previous post
They're definitely losing the game of optics to this filmmaker in the mainstream media. They don't have an HBO, Oprah or anyone major media outlet calling bullshit on Leaving Neverland like they should. By the time it's found out how bogus this whole charade was, the damage will be done. They need an spin-meister with juice drag this hack to Hell.
today - winning the war of opinion on twitter/ facebook & podcasts trumps primetime news
Oprah is being attacked online like never before - she recently did some "positive" release and posted it - her comments are 50 to 60% negative
She is still doing interviews defending her choices.
MJJ fans are as organized or more so than the Bey Hive
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You made a lot of noise by getting involved with Leaving Neverland, via your special After Neverland. How did that come about?
I didn't even have to be in it. I didn't have to take on all that. I said to myself the other day, "Why did I do that?"
Do you regret it?
No, I don't regret it. It wasn't really regret, it was just … actually, I was having dinner with friends and they were saying, "We saw you were in that." Like, "Why did you do that?" This is what happened. I saw it, and I was shaken by it. I wasn't even shaken by the fact that it was Michael Jackson, I was shaken by the fact that [filmmaker] Dan Reed had done a really good job of showing the pattern, and for years, I had been trying to show people the pattern. I'd been trying to say it's not about the moment, it's about the seduction. The first thing I said to Gayle [King] when we watched it was, "Gayle, you've got to get those guys [on CBS This Morning]." She Instagrammed about it, and I go, "No, you shouldn't Instagram, you should just get those guys."
How did you get involved?
I sent [HBO's former chairman Richard] Plepler a text and said, "Look, I'm trying to reach some of your people. What are you all doing with this?" I really wanted to talk to not just the guys but other people who were seeing it because I knew that people were going to be triggered by it. I knew that there would be people who would be re-traumatized by it and would see themselves in it, and I thought, "I can help thread the needle of what is actually happening here."
I assume you hadn't anticipated the blowback?
Oh, the hateration? Honeeeeey, I haven't had that much hateration since "The Puppy Episode" with Ellen [Winfrey guested as the therapist on the 1997 Ellen sitcom episode in which Ellen DeGeneres' character comes out], and it made me think, "Thank goodness Ellen's coming out was before social media because can you imagine?" During "The Puppy Episode," I had to take the people who were on my switchboard at Harpo off the switchboard because of the vitriol. They were scared.
What were people saying about that episode?
The N-word, "Go back to Africa," slut, hoes. … It became racist and homophobic and vile and "String ya up," "It's against the Lord." I mean, you name it. Similar to the Michael Jackson thing. I happened to be on Twitter for something, and somebody had said, "Oprah Winfrey is a disgrace to the race" or something. Yeah, the whole race. I decided, you know what? This isn't going to be healthy for me, so I just didn't engage with it.
Did you hear from any of the Jackson family?
(Shakes head no.) Because for me it wasn't even about Michael Jackson. It was about the bigger issue.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/f...-plans-60-minutes-split-2020-election-1205311
I didn't even have to be in it. I didn't have to take on all that. I said to myself the other day, "Why did I do that?"
Do you regret it?
No, I don't regret it. It wasn't really regret, it was just … actually, I was having dinner with friends and they were saying, "We saw you were in that." Like, "Why did you do that?" This is what happened. I saw it, and I was shaken by it. I wasn't even shaken by the fact that it was Michael Jackson, I was shaken by the fact that [filmmaker] Dan Reed had done a really good job of showing the pattern, and for years, I had been trying to show people the pattern. I'd been trying to say it's not about the moment, it's about the seduction. The first thing I said to Gayle [King] when we watched it was, "Gayle, you've got to get those guys [on CBS This Morning]." She Instagrammed about it, and I go, "No, you shouldn't Instagram, you should just get those guys."
How did you get involved?
I sent [HBO's former chairman Richard] Plepler a text and said, "Look, I'm trying to reach some of your people. What are you all doing with this?" I really wanted to talk to not just the guys but other people who were seeing it because I knew that people were going to be triggered by it. I knew that there would be people who would be re-traumatized by it and would see themselves in it, and I thought, "I can help thread the needle of what is actually happening here."
I assume you hadn't anticipated the blowback?
Oh, the hateration? Honeeeeey, I haven't had that much hateration since "The Puppy Episode" with Ellen [Winfrey guested as the therapist on the 1997 Ellen sitcom episode in which Ellen DeGeneres' character comes out], and it made me think, "Thank goodness Ellen's coming out was before social media because can you imagine?" During "The Puppy Episode," I had to take the people who were on my switchboard at Harpo off the switchboard because of the vitriol. They were scared.
What were people saying about that episode?
The N-word, "Go back to Africa," slut, hoes. … It became racist and homophobic and vile and "String ya up," "It's against the Lord." I mean, you name it. Similar to the Michael Jackson thing. I happened to be on Twitter for something, and somebody had said, "Oprah Winfrey is a disgrace to the race" or something. Yeah, the whole race. I decided, you know what? This isn't going to be healthy for me, so I just didn't engage with it.
Did you hear from any of the Jackson family?
(Shakes head no.) Because for me it wasn't even about Michael Jackson. It was about the bigger issue.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/f...-plans-60-minutes-split-2020-election-1205311
HBO documentary Leaving Neverland wins Emmy at Creative Arts Awards
By Lynette Rice
September 14, 2019 at 11:04 PM EDT
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HBO
Leaving Neverland, the polarizing documentary that focuses on longtime allegations of sexual abuse by Michael Jackson, won an Emmy Saturday at the Creative Arts portion of the annual awards show.
The two-parter produced by Dan Reed and Executive Produced by Nancy Abraham and Lisa Heller won in the Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special category. The critically hailed documentary was criticized by The Jeffersons and All in the Family in May on ABC were honored, too.
By Lynette Rice
September 14, 2019 at 11:04 PM EDT
FBTwitter
HBO
Leaving Neverland, the polarizing documentary that focuses on longtime allegations of sexual abuse by Michael Jackson, won an Emmy Saturday at the Creative Arts portion of the annual awards show.
The two-parter produced by Dan Reed and Executive Produced by Nancy Abraham and Lisa Heller won in the Outstanding Documentary or Nonfiction Special category. The critically hailed documentary was criticized by The Jeffersons and All in the Family in May on ABC were honored, too.
Michael Jackson Accusers Now Allowed to Sue for Sexual Abuse
By Zoe Haylock@zoe_alliyah
Photo: Bennett Raglin/Own Network
James Safechuck and Wade Robson, two men who accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them as kids, have just won the right to sue, according to Variety. A California appeals court decided that both men can now have their cases tried under a new California law. In 2017, a trial judge threw out their initial cases as the statute of limitations at the time required them to file before the age of 26. Safechuck and Robson were 36 and 30, respectively. But as of January 1, 2020, a new law in California allows sexual-abuse victims to sue up until they turn 40 years old. It also extends the statute of limitations on a provision that says victims can sue third-party entities tied to the abuser who knew or should have known about the abuse, and failed to take reasonable steps to stop it. “We’re glad the appellate court recognized the very strong protection that California has for kids, and we look forward to litigating these cases to trial,” Vince Finaldi, a lawyer for the two men, told Variety. Now, both alleged victims can sue MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures, two companies connected to Michael Jackson’s estate. Earlier this year, Safechuck and Robson opened up about how Michael Jackson molested and manipulated them as children in the HBO documentary Leaving Neverland, which chronicled Michael Jackson’s history of alleged child sexual abuse.
By Zoe Haylock@zoe_alliyah
Photo: Bennett Raglin/Own Network
James Safechuck and Wade Robson, two men who accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them as kids, have just won the right to sue, according to Variety. A California appeals court decided that both men can now have their cases tried under a new California law. In 2017, a trial judge threw out their initial cases as the statute of limitations at the time required them to file before the age of 26. Safechuck and Robson were 36 and 30, respectively. But as of January 1, 2020, a new law in California allows sexual-abuse victims to sue up until they turn 40 years old. It also extends the statute of limitations on a provision that says victims can sue third-party entities tied to the abuser who knew or should have known about the abuse, and failed to take reasonable steps to stop it. “We’re glad the appellate court recognized the very strong protection that California has for kids, and we look forward to litigating these cases to trial,” Vince Finaldi, a lawyer for the two men, told Variety. Now, both alleged victims can sue MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures, two companies connected to Michael Jackson’s estate. Earlier this year, Safechuck and Robson opened up about how Michael Jackson molested and manipulated them as children in the HBO documentary Leaving Neverland, which chronicled Michael Jackson’s history of alleged child sexual abuse.
A US judge has dismissed a lawsuit from one of Michael Jackson's accusers, who claimed Jackson's companies allowed the star to abuse him and other children.
James Safechuck has said the singer started abusing him when he was 10.
In 2014, he sued MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures, and has alleged they "were created to, and did, facilitate Jackson's sexual abuse of children".
But the judge dismissed the case, saying the companies didn't have a duty of care for Mr Safechuck.
Lying Liar's Lawsuit Dismissed By Court
Michael Jackson Estate Handed Another Win in Leaving Neverland Appeal
By Justin Curto
Photo: HBO
Michael Jackson’s estate is one step closer to going into arbitration with HBO over the documentary series Leaving Neverland after a court of appeals affirmed a previous ruling on December 14. According to Variety, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled that the contract disagreement between the Jackson estate and HBO over a decades-old non-disparagement clause cannot be thrown out, affirming a previous California court ruling.
The clause dates back to HBO’s 1992 concert film for Jackson’s Dangerous tour, and his estate is asking for $100 million over the network’s investigation into the child-sexual-abuse allegations against Jackson, which it claims broke the contract. This ruling, like the previous one, does not mean HBO has to pay up — only that the dispute must now go to contract arbitration, unless HBO wants to try its luck with appealing to the Supreme Court. “We may only identify whether the parties agreed to arbitrate such claims; it is for the arbitrator to decide whether those claims are meritorious,” the three-judge panel ruled. In an effort to avoid the arbitration process, HBO has claimed the clause discourages abuse victims from speaking up.
By Justin Curto
Photo: HBO
Michael Jackson’s estate is one step closer to going into arbitration with HBO over the documentary series Leaving Neverland after a court of appeals affirmed a previous ruling on December 14. According to Variety, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled that the contract disagreement between the Jackson estate and HBO over a decades-old non-disparagement clause cannot be thrown out, affirming a previous California court ruling.
The clause dates back to HBO’s 1992 concert film for Jackson’s Dangerous tour, and his estate is asking for $100 million over the network’s investigation into the child-sexual-abuse allegations against Jackson, which it claims broke the contract. This ruling, like the previous one, does not mean HBO has to pay up — only that the dispute must now go to contract arbitration, unless HBO wants to try its luck with appealing to the Supreme Court. “We may only identify whether the parties agreed to arbitrate such claims; it is for the arbitrator to decide whether those claims are meritorious,” the three-judge panel ruled. In an effort to avoid the arbitration process, HBO has claimed the clause discourages abuse victims from speaking up.
Michael Jackson Estate Handed Another Win in Leaving Neverland Appeal
By Justin Curto
Photo: HBO
Michael Jackson’s estate is one step closer to going into arbitration with HBO over the documentary series Leaving Neverland after a court of appeals affirmed a previous ruling on December 14. According to Variety, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled that the contract disagreement between the Jackson estate and HBO over a decades-old non-disparagement clause cannot be thrown out, affirming a previous California court ruling.
The clause dates back to HBO’s 1992 concert film for Jackson’s Dangerous tour, and his estate is asking for $100 million over the network’s investigation into the child-sexual-abuse allegations against Jackson, which it claims broke the contract. This ruling, like the previous one, does not mean HBO has to pay up — only that the dispute must now go to contract arbitration, unless HBO wants to try its luck with appealing to the Supreme Court. “We may only identify whether the parties agreed to arbitrate such claims; it is for the arbitrator to decide whether those claims are meritorious,” the three-judge panel ruled. In an effort to avoid the arbitration process, HBO has claimed the clause discourages abuse victims from speaking up.
Michael Jackson estate scores legal win as judge dismisses Wade Robson's sex abuse lawsuit
By Rosy Cordero
April 26, 2021 at 11:01 PM EDT
The estate of Michael Jackson has scored a victory in court against Wade Robson, the dancer and choreographer who sued the estate in 2013 claiming that the late pop star sexually abused him when he was underage. Robson's allegations were chronicled in the high-profile 2019 HBO documentary Leaving Neverland.
Upholding an earlier tentative ruling, L.A. County Superior Court Judge Mark A. Young dismissed Robson's lawsuit Monday and found that defendants MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures were not financially liable to Robson because the corporations had no legal duty or ability to control Jackson.
Vince Finaldi, Robson's attorney, said in a statement to EW that the ruling had "fatal flaws" and would be appealed "to the Court of Appeal, and to the Supreme Court if necessary."
He added, "If allowed to stand, the decision would set a dangerous precedent that would leave thousands of children working in the entertainment industry vulnerable to sexual abuse by persons in places of power. The children of our state deserve protection, and we will not stop fighting until we insure that every child is safe."
Wade Robson and Michael Jackson
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Jonathan Steinsapir, attorney for the Jackson estate, said in a statement that Robson "has spent the last eight years pursuing frivolous claims in different lawsuits against Michael Jackson's estate and companies associated with it. Robson has taken nearly three dozen depositions and inspected and presented hundreds of thousands of documents trying to prove his claims, yet a Judge has once again ruled that Robson's claims have no merit whatsoever, that no trial is necessary, and that his latest case is dismissed."
The Jackson estate has a separate lawsuit that is ongoing with HBO for producing and distributing Finding Neverland; it was ordered to arbitration in December.
By Rosy Cordero
April 26, 2021 at 11:01 PM EDT
The estate of Michael Jackson has scored a victory in court against Wade Robson, the dancer and choreographer who sued the estate in 2013 claiming that the late pop star sexually abused him when he was underage. Robson's allegations were chronicled in the high-profile 2019 HBO documentary Leaving Neverland.
Upholding an earlier tentative ruling, L.A. County Superior Court Judge Mark A. Young dismissed Robson's lawsuit Monday and found that defendants MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures were not financially liable to Robson because the corporations had no legal duty or ability to control Jackson.
Vince Finaldi, Robson's attorney, said in a statement to EW that the ruling had "fatal flaws" and would be appealed "to the Court of Appeal, and to the Supreme Court if necessary."
He added, "If allowed to stand, the decision would set a dangerous precedent that would leave thousands of children working in the entertainment industry vulnerable to sexual abuse by persons in places of power. The children of our state deserve protection, and we will not stop fighting until we insure that every child is safe."
Wade Robson and Michael Jackson
| CREDIT: PETER KRAMER/NBC/NBC NEWSWIRE VIA GETTY IMAGES; CARLO ALLEGRI/GETTY IMAGES
Jonathan Steinsapir, attorney for the Jackson estate, said in a statement that Robson "has spent the last eight years pursuing frivolous claims in different lawsuits against Michael Jackson's estate and companies associated with it. Robson has taken nearly three dozen depositions and inspected and presented hundreds of thousands of documents trying to prove his claims, yet a Judge has once again ruled that Robson's claims have no merit whatsoever, that no trial is necessary, and that his latest case is dismissed."
The Jackson estate has a separate lawsuit that is ongoing with HBO for producing and distributing Finding Neverland; it was ordered to arbitration in December.
'Leaving Neverland' director condemns upcoming Michael Jackson biopic
'Leaving Neverland' director Dan Reed slams Lionsgate's upcoming Michael Jackson biopic as a glorification of a 'man who abused children' in a scathing op-ed.
Leaving Neverland director condemns upcoming Michael Jackson biopic
Filmmaker Dan Reed says the biopic directed by Antoine Fuqua will "glorify a man who abused children."
By Jessica WangFebruary 05, 2023 at 01:31 PM EST
Leaving Neverland director Dan Reed slammed Lionsgate's upcoming biopic about late singer Michael Jackson as a glorification of a "man who abused children" in a scathing op-ed.
For the piece in The Observer published Sunday, the filmmaker revisited his 2019 documentary — centered on two men, Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who accused Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were 7 and 10 — and said the upcoming biopic sends out an "unacceptable" message: "If a pedophile is rich and popular enough, society will forgive him," Reed writes.
Reed called out what he perceived as the "deafening silence" of press reaction to the film. "No one is talking about 'cancelling' this movie, which will glorify a man who raped children," he writes. "What the total absence of outrage accompanying the announcement of this movie tells us is that Jackson's seduction is still a living force, operating from beyond the grave."
Michael Jackson
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"It seems that the press, his fans and the vast older demographic who grew up loving Jackson are willing to set aside his unhealthy relationship with children and just go along with the music," Reed continues. "To them I say this: even if you do not believe a word of what his many accusers have said; even if you are not concerned by the police investigations and the massive payouts to halt legal proceedings, how do you explain the completely uncontested fact that for years Jackson spent innumerable nights alone in bed with young boys?"
He adds, "To the filmmakers, I say: How will you represent the moment when Jackson, a grown man in his 30s, takes a child by the hand and leads him into that bedroom? How will you depict what happens next? By sidestepping the question of Jackson's predilection for sleeping with young boys, you are broadcasting a message to millions of survivors of child sexual abuse. That message is: If a pedophile is rich and popular enough, society will forgive him."
Director Dan Reed
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Lionsgate announced last month that Antoine Fuqua (Emancipation, Training Day) had been tapped to direct the Jackson biopic, titled Michael, about the life and music of the King of Pop. Jackson rose to fame as a young child with musical group Jackson 5 before becoming a celebrated solo pop act. He was also a polarizing figure, facing controversy and several allegations of child sex abuse. In 2005, he was tried and acquitted of charges in connection with accusations that he molested a 13-year-old.
The allegations were revisited in Reed's Finding Neverland, which has been denounced by the Jackson estate and the allegations called "absolutely false." It's unclear how Michael might address the allegations, but Lionsgate said the film — made in collaboration with John Branca and John McClain, co-executors of Jackson's estate — would "explore all aspects of Michael's life." Jackson died in 2009 at the age of 50.
Lionsgate didn't immediately respond to EW's request for comment on Reed's op-ed.
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