Churches are closing at rapid numbers in the US

When you see churches shot up, schools and dancehalls shot up; the realization that God doesn’t exist, doesn’t protect and prayer is simply hope, this is the outcome. How Jews believe in a higher power after the holocaust and us after slavery, Jim Crow and police shootings; there is no logic in believing in a savior with all this shit happening.

Personal opinion, but I truly believe that most Jewish people don't actually believe in God, just that they are THE holy people & thus superior over everyone else. Add their position in most aspects of life & you have a "race" that uses religion as a front for a united people.
 
they preach holier than thou but who's living it? the internet, social media and covid has taken them out. we see all the preachers having babies, molesting young boys and women, churches spreading the gospel, all of them racists as fuck, churches aligning with republicans, trying to force feed conservative values down peoples throats. Then build megachurches and pack them out....no connection whatsoever. ashame this has been one of the greatest hustles ever.
 
Smaller churches are definitely closing, but here in Houston, there seems to be a new mega church opening every year.
 
Personal opinion, but I truly believe that most Jewish people don't actually believe in God, just that they are THE holy people & thus superior over everyone else. Add their position in most aspects of life & you have a "race" that uses religion as a front for a united people.

I got one even better from the grimey kikes. Do you know not one Jewish person marriage is recognized by the state? They are all single mothers on welfare, getting Section 8 while they own 3 tenemant buildings that are slummed the fuck out!
 
I got one even better from the grimey kikes. Do you know not one Jewish person marriage is recognized by the state? They are all single mothers on welfare, getting Section 8 while they own 3 tenemant buildings that are slummed the fuck out!

I hope you don't believe this.
 
I got one even better from the grimey kikes. Do you know not one Jewish person marriage is recognized by the state? They are all single mothers on welfare, getting Section 8 while they own 3 tenemant buildings that are slummed the fuck out!

I know that to be true about the Hasidics & other Orthodox Jews here in NYC & surrounding areas, but I didn't know that was the case for all Jewish marriages.

Something I need to look into...thanks for the info.
 
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People think they need church. People need self knowledge, self awareness.

I am not mad at DeSantis for Banning African American studies…..because that curriculum isn’t helping anyone. I mean fuck him. It what is being lost here?
 
Before you go into a Hercules-Hercules clap, ask yourself the question, what do we have in order as a replacement for moral and virtual structure in this country? Because I remember Ray Higgins saying if you take away something like religion that has traditionally helped us get through some of the roughest times in this country, failing to replace it with anything of substance will leave us with a void and feeling empty.

Considering that religion has been a total failure across the board for morality and virtue, maybe the lesson here is that you don't need these institutions. Perhaps we'll all be better off accepting our mortality and humanity and going from there to make a better world. There are plenty of secular organizations that do charity work. Nothing is better than facing hard times with a clear mind and a sense of reality vs Fantasy and a mind clouded by Bullshit.
 
THE JIG IS UP
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The young people don’t believe in the old God. They believe in the new Gods…social media and technology! That’s why this show was so important:

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This show pissed off alot of those bible thumpers by hitting on a lot of truths in religion's, went down hill during the 3rd season high ups didn't like the narrative of the season 1 and 2.
 
only way church gone make it...is if it changes to something like a town hall..and have classes to actually help finances, business and morality all at the same time...brah

Right, it's time for Church to evolve. Religion ain't going no where. It's time to actually help folks. Go online, marketing, and social media. It ain't that hard to get followers.
 
Like I said, I'm going to need you to show me the government stats show zero Jewish marriages.
He's not speaking in absolutes. He's speaking in the prevalence of culture.

In NYC (especially Brooklyn) the jewish community is so insular that they constantly break laws. They are so politically powerful that they're seldom checked about anything they do.
They have mad money in their own community-style banking, but will take advantage of section 8 like none other. Because as the Brother said, on paper, they are single moms, but "married" in the eyes of their tight-knit community.

I've seen upper middle-class jews snatch section 8 housing from friends with my own eyes.

This is how it has been for decades. Everybody knows, but turns a blind eye because they have political power.
 
Considering that religion has been a total failure across the board for morality and virtue, maybe the lesson here is that you don't need these institutions. Perhaps we'll all be better off accepting our mortality and humanity and going from there to make a better world. There are plenty of secular organizations that do charity work. Nothing is better than facing hard times with a clear mind and a sense of reality vs Fantasy and a mind clouded by Bullshit.
Do you accept the fact that typically men and women think differently and one of the implementations of religion has been to gear men towards sacrificing their lives for a greater cause and women sacrificing their selfish desires in favor of the well-being of their children? In this country, there is less of a need for religious soldiers, now that we have technology and money to attract men towards fighting for their countries, plus institutions such as sports also promote men fighting spirits.
Women on the other hand are losing their sense of the importance of sacrificing for their children, sure they still want kids, but many look at them as toys and badges of their womanhood, but dying are the traditional women who will do anything to ensure their children lives are better than their own, something that the traditional church and religions all promote. But unlike the case in men, there are alternative measures or institutions encouraging women to be traditional mothers as a matter of fact, in the West the feminine movement is encouraging them to be more self-centered and greedy and without religions and culture to balance things off the quality of today's parenting has fallen off considerably and could be at the core of many social issues, such as mass shootings, increase gang violence and depression.
 
We live a new tech world now..you technically don’t need an actual brick and mortar to have a following/church.. you don’t have to pass around a collection plate to get money.. this the new age.. you can have zoom or a live on a social media platform.. you can have followers Zelle , cash app, or other forms of payment sent to you.. you can have a camera /phone set up in your living room/garage/ basement, etc.. remember you can get a tax write off using your home location for bizzness.. that means a pastor don’t have to leave the house or his followers to conduct a sermon.. not only that the internet has a further reach which means you can have followers in diff states, countries, continents.. so you don’t have limited space you have unlimited possibilities of network.. so just cause churches are closing don’t mean these dudes is going out of biz that just means it’s a possibility they found a diff alternative to operate their enterprise.. b4 churches people use to do sermons out in grass fields or outside, than churches were created, maybe the new outlet called the internet changing the game again
 
Do you accept the fact that typically men and women think differently and one of the implementations of religion has been to gear men towards sacrificing their lives for a greater cause and women sacrificing their selfish desires in favor of the well-being of their children? In this country, there is less of a need for religious soldiers, now that we have technology and money to attract men towards fighting for their countries, plus institutions such as sports also promote men fighting spirits.
Women on the other hand are losing their sense of the importance of sacrificing for their children, sure they still want kids, but many look at them as toys and badges of their womanhood, but dying are the traditional women who will do anything to ensure their children lives are better than their own, something that the traditional church and religions all promote. But unlike the case in men, there are alternative measures or institutions encouraging women to be traditional mothers as a matter of fact, in the West the feminine movement is encouraging them to be more self-centered and greedy and without religions and culture to balance things off the quality of today's parenting has fallen off considerably and could be at the core of many social issues, such as mass shootings, increase gang violence and depression.

Sorry, but I don't believe any of what you have said. Patriarchal religions have done nothing for women other than reducing them to chattel. Women were reduced to 2nd class beings. Some say that faith puts women on a pedestal, but in reality, it has put women on a shelf like some tool. A tool to be used for pleasure and procreation. Is it any wonder that as late as the 90s, there were still states that legally viewed wives as property? The Abrahamic religions have dehumanized women robbing them of their sexuality by burdening them with a yoke of chastity, vilifying them as the cause of all humanity's problems while defining their nature as deceptive. It's the ultimate mind fuck. Hallescrewya!!!!
 
I know in DC over the years it had more to do with gentrification, white folks moving into a neighborhood knowing there's a chuch there then raising hell about parking etc. The bitch enough that the mayor/city council screw up parking, so now those folks going to the church have no where to park. Not to mention developers wanting the property that many of these churches are sitting on.
 
Churches are closing at rapid numbers in the US, researchers say, as congregations dwindle across the country and a younger generation of Americans abandon Christianity altogether – even as faith continues to dominate American politics.

As the US adjusts to an increasingly non-religious population, thousands of churches are closing each year in the country – a figure that experts believe may have accelerated since the Covid-19 pandemic.

The situation means some hard decisions for pastors, who have to decide when a dwindling congregation is no longer sustainable. But it has also created a boom market for those wanting to buy churches, with former houses of worship now finding new life.

About 4,500 Protestant churches closed in 2019, the last year data is available, with about 3,000 new churches opening, according to Lifeway Research. It was the first time the number of churches in the US hadn’t grown since the evangelical firm started studying the topic. With the pandemic speeding up a broader trend of Americans turning away from Christianity, researchers say the closures will only have accelerated.

“The closures, even for a temporary period of time, impacted a lot of churches. People breaking that habit of attending church means a lot of churches had to work hard to get people back to attending again,” said Scott McConnell, executive director at Lifeway Research.

“In the last three years, all signs are pointing to a continued pace of closures probably similar to 2019 or possibly higher, as there’s been a really rapid rise in American individuals who say they’re not religious.”

Protestant pastors reported that typical church attendance is only 85% of pre-pandemic levels, McConnell said, while research by the Survey Center on American Life and the University of Chicago found that in spring 2022 67% of Americans reported attending church at least once a year, compared with 75% before the pandemic.

But while Covid-19 may have accelerated the decline, there is a broader, long-running trend of people moving away from religion. In 2017 Lifeway surveyed young adults aged between 18 and 22 who had attended church regularly, for at least a year during high school. The firm found that seven out of 10 had stopped attending church regularly.

Some of the reasons were “logistical”, McConnell said, as people moved away for college or started jobs which made it difficult to attend church.

“But some of the other answers are not so much logistics. One of the top answers was church members seem to be judgmental or hypocritical,” McConnell said.

“And so the younger generation just doesn’t feel like they’re being accepted in a church environment or some of their choices aren’t being accepted by those at church.”

About a quarter of the young adults who dropped out of church said they disagreed with their church’s stance on political and social issues, McConnell said.

A study by Pew Research found that the number of Americans who identified as Christian was 64% in 2020, with 30% of the US population being classed as “religiously unaffiliated”. About 6% of Americans identified with Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism.

“Since the 1990s, large numbers of Americans have left Christianity to join the growing ranks of US adults who describe their religious identity as atheist, agnostic or ‘nothing in particular’,” Pew wrote.

“This accelerating trend is reshaping the US religious landscape.”

In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.

Stephen Bullivant, author of Nonverts: The Making of Ex-Christian America and professor of theology and the sociology of religion at St Mary’s University, said in the Christian world it had been a generational change.

While grandparents might have been regular churchgoers, their children would say they believe in God, but not go to church regularly. By the time millennials came round, they had little experience or relationship with churchgoing or religion.

In the Catholic church, in particular, the sexual abuse scandal may have driven away people who had only a tenuous connection to the faith.

“The other thing is the pandemic,” Bullivant said.

“A lot of people who were weakly attached, to suddenly have months of not going, they’re then thinking: ‘Well we don’t really need to go,’ or ‘We’ve found something else to do,’ or thinking: ‘It was hard enough dragging the kids along then, we really ought to start going again … next week.’”

Bullivant said most other countries saw a move away from religion earlier than the US, but the US had particular circumstances that slowed things down.

“Canada, Britain, France, Australia, New Zealand, the nones rise much earlier, the wake of the 1960s the baby boom generation, this kind of big, growing separation of kind of traditional Christian moral morality,” Bullivant said.

“What happens in America that I think dampens down the rise of the nones is the cold war. Because in America, unlike in Britain, there’s a very explicit kind of ‘Christian America’ versus godless communism framing, and to be non-religious is to be un-American.

“I think that dampens it down until you get the millennial generation for whom the cold war is just a vague memory from their early childhood.”

When people leave, congregations dwindle. And when that gets to a critical point, churches close. That has led to a flood of churches available for sale, and a range of opportunities for the once holy buildings.

Brian Dolehide, managing director of AD Advisors, a real estate company that specializes in church sales, said the last 10 years had seen a spike in sales. Frequently churches become housing or care homes, while some of the churches are bought by other churches wanting to expand.

But selling a church isn’t like selling a house or a business. Frequently the sellers want a buyer who plans to use the church for a good cause: Dolehide said he had recently sold a church in El Paso which is now used as housing for recent immigrants, and a convent in Pittsburgh which will be used as affordable housing.

“The faith-based transaction is so different in so many ways from the for-profit transaction. We’re not looking to profit from our transactions, we’re looking for the best use that reflects the last 50 years or 100 years use if possible.”

The closures aren’t spread evenly through the country.

In Texas, John Muzyka said there were fewer churches for sale than at any point in the last 15 years. He believes that is partly down to Texas’s response to the pandemic, where the governor allowed churches to open in May 2020, even when the number of new Covid cases was extremely high.

“I would say if a church stayed closed for more than a year, it was really hard to get those people to come back. When you were closed for three months, you were able to get over it,” Muzyka said.

That aside, closures are often due to a failure of churches to adapt.

“A church will go through a life cycle. At some point, maybe the congregation ages out, maybe they stop reaching young families.

“If the church ages and doesn’t reach young people, or the demographics change and they don’t figure out how to reach the new demographic, that church ends up closing.

“Yes, there’s financial pressures that will close a church, but oftentimes, it’s more that they didn’t figure out how to change when the community changed, or they didn’t have enough young people to continue the congregation for the next generation.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/22/us-churches-closing-religion-covid-christianity
You never been to Oklahoma huh?
 
Sorry, but I don't believe any of what you have said. Patriarchal religions have done nothing for women other than reducing them to chattel. Women were reduced to 2nd class beings. Some say that faith puts women on a pedestal, but in reality, it has put women on a shelf like some tool. A tool to be used for pleasure and procreation. Is it any wonder that as late as the 90s, there were still states that legally viewed wives as property? The Abrahamic religions have dehumanized women robbing them of their sexuality by burdening them with a yoke of chastity, vilifying them as the cause of all humanity's problems while defining their nature as deceptive. It's the ultimate mind fuck. Hallescrewya!!!!
Women were asked to sacrifice individuality for their children while men were asked to sacrifice their lives for the state or kingdom, this was the blueprint for building a nation for years. I understand that those old ways are antiquated in modern western nations however the roles of men and women are still different and as long as women aren't willing to make some sacrifices in terms of virtuality, they will continue to struggle to be good wives and mothers and the main ones to feel the pinch will be the children. Hint being a diva or a boss bitch is not conducive to being a good mother. To add, as long as the best candidates for fathers continue to be passed up for guys who really only want to fuck, without the church there to level the playing field, you can expect the degradation of the American family to get worse.
 
Women were asked to sacrifice individuality for their children while men were asked to sacrifice their lives for the state or kingdom, this was the blueprint for building a nation for years. I understand that those old ways are antiquated in modern western nations however the roles of men and women are still different and as long as women aren't willing to make some sacrifices in terms of virtuality, they will continue to struggle to be good wives and mothers and the main ones to feel the pinch will be the children. Hint being a diva or a boss bitch is not conducive to being a good mother. To add, as long as the best candidates for fathers continue to be passed up for guys who really only want to fuck, without the church there to level the playing field, you can expect the degradation of the American family to get worse.

Nope, that's not what it is about. It's about control and fear in the guise of love. That's why people are leaving. Nobody needs this crap to live a successful life. Other cultures existed for centuries with different values system, and they were pretty successful without Christianity. In fact, Christianity was the tip of the sword that destroyed these cultures.
 
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