Thomas Sowell on playing the “slavery card”

You are just now hearing about this? Do you believe it is true or false?
 
That’s a start. But you have to go back further than that. No need for me to post anything because of what you just posted, which is nothing but a half-assed attempt at research from one of the colonies. I’m surprised you didn’t post about Pocahontas and John Smith.


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if its so half assed then do better muthafuka
 
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One of the problems I've noticed on this board is that if the majority calls someone a coon, people will either jump on the bandwagon quickly, or they won't listen to the subject person at all.

If you don't listen to the person (who's presumably your enemy), how will you ever understand him? How will you ever see him coming at you, or worse, coming for you? In the 1930s, no one listened to Hitler much. But, Winston Churchill did. He tried to tell the other nations that Germany was preparing themselves again for war. No one listened until Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland.

Some of the most brilliant people in history were enemies to others.

The man is brilliant. Will I listen to what he says? Yes. Would I follow him into battle? No... he'd be my enemy. I'd like to hope that I could out think him with the help of others who feel that he's a dangerous person just like I do.
To be called a coon on this board is a badge of honor. That means you are not a part of the 'go along, get along gang'. Not to say there aren't some certified ops hiding out in here, but for the most part the intelligent people tend to find the intelligent threads and deal with the BS prima facie.

I've listened to Sowell for years. He's not all the way wrong, specifically when it comes to black american culture. This is not african culture or a derivate of africa, this is something that has been assigned to us.
 
...ugh...I can't even...I can't even play this shyt! It's too early for this shyt. I get knowing your enemy and the shyt they talk of, and how they think. I need to watch this on a Friday AFTER work!
 
To be called a coon on this board is a badge of honor. That means you are not a part of the 'go along, get along gang'. Not to say there aren't some certified ops hiding out in here, but for the most part the intelligent people tend to find the intelligent threads and deal with the BS prima facie.

I've listened to Sowell for years. He's not all the way wrong, specifically when it comes to black american culture. This is not african culture or a derivate of africa, this is something that has been assigned to us.

Yeah a lot of y'all are showing your "I wanna be seen as one of the good ones" mentality when it comes to white people.

Sowell has always spouted the everything is Black people's fault bullshit and the fact that you think he's OK says so much about you. But then again.....didnt you already admit to being a Black republican???
 
For the "Black" people on here saying Sowell isn't so bad and that he's right about Black culture remember that Sowell has said there is no systemic racism in the US.

Sowell was quoted as saying diversity causes harm.

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support -- kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as 'racists'
Thomas Sowell
https://www.azquotes.com/author/13901-Thomas_Sowell


Can you cite one speck of hard evidence of the benefits of "diversity" that we have heard gushed about for years? Evidence of its harm can be seen — written in blood — from Iraq to India, from Serbia to Sudan, from Fiji to the Philippines. It is scary how easily so many people can be brainwashed by sheer repetition of a word.
Thomas Sowell
https://www.azquotes.com/author/13901-Thomas_Sowell
 
Y'all need to understand that when Black people say they like Sowell it means they agree with the idea that everything is Black people's fault, white people do no wrong and that racism doesn't exist.
 
Yeah a lot of y'all are showing your "I wanna be seen as one of the good ones" mentality when it comes to white people.

Sowell has always spouted the everything is Black people's fault bullshit and the fact that you think he's OK says so much about you. But then again.....didnt you already admit to being a Black republican???

It never fails

There's nothing intellectual about cherry-picking around the horrors of American chattel slavery. It's simply drifting and pandering to a different audience.
 
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It never fails

There's nothing intellectual about cherry-picking around the horrors of American chattel slavery. It's simply drifting and pandering to a different audience.
It’s head Pat pandering that racist cacs love . They use these coons as their racism vessel. Just look at the comments sections crackas rush in to tell him how he’s one of the good ones and how smart he is blah blah blah.

That’s the main issue with these coons , they downplay the horrors of this countries racism in order to make cacs comfortable. I can’t stand these fucking coons and they need death
 
It’s head Pat pandering that racist cacs love . They use these coons as their racism vessel. Just look at the comments sections crackas rush in to tell him how he’s one of the good ones and how smart he is blah blah blah.

That’s the main issue with these coons , they downplay the horrors of this countries racism in order to make cacs comfortable. I can’t stand these fucking coons and they need death

Yea, the likes of Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, etc. often get so many virtual pats on the head and donationsssss.

Their comments section is loaded with replies along the lines of:

"Smartest black EVER!!"

"Why can't more blacks be like this?"

On a side note, I was cracking up when you posted the screen shot of Candice Owens blocking you from her twitter account :lol: :roflmao:
 
To be called a coon on this board is a badge of honor. That means you are not a part of the 'go along, get along gang'. Not to say there aren't some certified ops hiding out in here, but for the most part the intelligent people tend to find the intelligent threads and deal with the BS prima facie.

I've listened to Sowell for years. He's not all the way wrong, specifically when it comes to black american culture. This is not african culture or a derivate of africa, this is something that has been assigned to us.
care to post some of his talking points you agree with?
 
Yea, the likes of Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, etc. often get so many virtual pats on the head and donationsssss.

Their comments section is loaded with replies along the lines of:

"Smartest black EVER!!"

"Why can't more blacks be like this?"

On a side note, I was cracking up when you posted the screen shot of Candice Owens blocking you from her twitter account :lol: :roflmao:
Fuck that cunt bitch whore
 
Yeah a lot of y'all are showing your "I wanna be seen as one of the good ones" mentality when it comes to white people.

Sowell has always spouted the everything is Black people's fault bullshit and the fact that you think he's OK says so much about you. But then again.....didnt you already admit to being a Black republican???
It don’t say shit about me. This is ya’lls tactic while sitting in your mama’s basement. Shame and insult. Fuck off.
 
There are few atrocities on the level of Chattel Slavery. The White Supremacy- Brutality parts are covered but The White Depravity- Child Molestation and Rapes aren’t really referenced when slavery is discussed. Chattel Slavery covers all the marginalized groups (women,children,homosexuals, and mentally challenged) but Reparations is largely ignored.
The reason Reparations is not the #1 issue of Liberals is because it happened to Black folks and won’t benefit CACs. You can’t ethically complain About wealth inequality, argue about student loans, a living wage, rent control etc, without prioritizing righting the wrongs of generations of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining and racism. This is the reason I feel like Democrats/Liberals are racist just like Republicans/ Republicans. There is a difference between Allies And Family.
 
The whataboutisms of other forms of slavery argument in response to American chattel slavery are merely regurgitated talking points you'd see on a Tucker Carlson segment and MAGA comments section. It's basically a diversion attempt. That's not how one debates a topic.
 
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More of the same emotion and not comprehension. Yall niggas really want to own being the worlds slaves. The definition and action of Slavery has nothing to do with race. But for yall its just us Black Americans and just the last couple centuries. Thats slavery, the end.

The bad (coon) part of the facts he is saying is by expanding the idea to 10's of thousands of years ago is a slavery dilutes addressing it now. "it happened to everyone so get over it" energy. He shows there in a backhanded way that yes what he is saying is true, crackas have enslaved crackas since the beginning of time, but its in an attempt to get reparations off the table. But im repeating myself to people who have no more than one word one sentence emoji and meme responses, and a complete lack of ability to understand.
 
Y'all need to understand that when Black people say they like Sowell it means they agree with the idea that everything is Black people's fault, white people do no wrong and that racism doesn't exist.

When black people say the above it's because they'd rather not face the real issues in the community, or hold our own people accountable for anything.
 
It don’t say shit about me. This is ya’lls tactic while sitting in your mama’s basement. Shame and insult. Fuck off.

You're the one in here saying how a dude that constantly says that every instance of Black people dealing with racism is someone never white people's fault is some genius.

Lot of y'all are so desparate to say that your "not like you other Negros" that you'll cosign a dude insulting you and saying you're lazy to do it.
 
When black people say the above it's because they'd rather not face the real issues in the community, or hold our own people accountable for anything.

Mmmmm the personal responsibility talking point right out of the racist Republican playbook.

Y'all are as deep as a puddle on a nyc sidewalk in August.
 
More of the same emotion and not comprehension. Yall niggas really want to own being the worlds slaves. The definition and action of Slavery has nothing to do with race. But for yall its just us Black Americans and just the last couple centuries. Thats slavery, the end.

The bad (coon) part of the facts he is saying is by expanding the idea to 10's of thousands of years ago is a slavery dilutes addressing it now. "it happened to everyone so get over it" energy. He shows there in a backhanded way that yes what he is saying is true, crackas have enslaved crackas since the beginning of time, but its in an attempt to get reparations off the table. But im repeating myself to people who have no more than one word one sentence emoji and meme responses, and a complete lack of ability to understand.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

“The religions practiced by the indigenous populations in Africa and the Americas provided adequate European justification for their capture and enslavement, but what happened when Africans or American Indians converted to Christianity? To avoid religious exemption, European slaveholders in the New World justified the enslavement of non-Europeans by constructing the concept of a white European race as separate and superior to non-Europeans. European legal, military, and religious support for slavery based on racial heriarchies allowed for a long term coerced labor force in the Americas, and Europeans could use the myth of white superiority to avoid their own enslavement.”

 
Mmmmm the personal responsibility talking point right out of the racist Republican playbook.

Personal responsibility is a republican talking point says the married homeowner with a professional career?

Guess there's no expectation of your kids to have personal responsibility, right? Oh, no, that's different :rolleyes:
 
saying slavery isn't or wasn't race based isn't some hidden information...yes WE ALL KNOW the basic institution of slavery has never been race based since the institution predates the concept of "race" as we know and use it. I've posted this before..

The development of what would become "race" classifications as it developed between the 1100s and 1500s Europe. For example sub-Saharan Africans were generally called Ethiopians. That was the catch-all term for any dark skin African, western Europeans encountered at that time. You don't necessarily see the term "Black" used for Africans in the early middle ages but you see it in their artwork...BUT many of the images in their art that portrayed bad things like executioners and negative religious symbols were characterized with black colored skin and African features, so you start to see an early connection with Black = sin/evil/unredeemable. Its not necessarily SAID but its SHOWN.

Around the 1300s and 1400s you start to see the term "Black" in association with dark skin Africans. As the slave trade moved across the Atlantic to western Europe, the catholic church in Spain starts to use its influence to further marry the color Black + unredeemable sin + slavery = dark skin Africans are supposed to have this position in a social structure in life.

This is adopted in the Americas and by the late 1600s, 1700s the colonies/USA are looking for ways to perfect the slave system they have by developing chattel slavery making the condition heritable and permanent for offspring thru the mother. While all this is happening the term Black and Slave are used interchangeably and synonymously in their laws and customs. When you say slave you mean Black and when you say Black its understood its about a person of the lowest social order. This is why IN WESTERN CULTURE PARTICULARLY IN THE AMERICAS SLAVERY AND RACE ARE CONNECTED.

All of this took centuries to work out but by the 1800s the culture had solidified and the perception of Africans/American Blacks had been set. So by the time slavery was "abolished" (except as a form of punishment for crime) the immediate response was to come up with work arounds for this group of people whom the Bible deemed unredeemable and therefore subjugation was supposed to be their normal and rightful state of living. Hence Black Codes and Vagrancy Laws and Jim Crow Laws and before you know it we're in the latter part of the 20th century around the1960s before the last vestiges of all that shit is officially removed tho the perceptions and treatment remains defacto.

All those CENTURIES in developing a specific perception and treatment of "Black" People and motherfuckers think all that's changed in the last 50 years....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Correct. The mere fact that these dudes are mad that he said its not race based shows the level of thinking we are dealing with in a convo like this. Makes it not worth it actually. Only a handful of guys are going to add to the convo.

Its hard to think of slavery and race not connected as you perfectly laid out for Westerners. Its fully solidified in these niggas brains. Slavery is "their" thing. White people the same, blacks are just slaves with the ability to do some things they can do now.

I even gave reference to what you said being similar to White Jesus. Centuries of conditioning have solidified that image and there are dudes in here who still see that image when they pray.

Where Thomas is fucked up is he is using that fact to weaken the ability to get govt aid. Black Americans still need so much from America from local city programs to farming grants to of course reparations. Thomas was clearly against that, and i cant fuck with that. And like i said before I see why he is going viral now, but alot of his talking points are still talking points.

We still need to address how Black Americans are the only ones to not get repatriations. And anyone who listens to Thomas now will be able to use his arguments against it cuz nothing has changed since these vids.
 
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

“The religions practiced by the indigenous populations in Africa and the Americas provided adequate European justification for their capture and enslavement, but what happened when Africans or American Indians converted to Christianity? To avoid religious exemption, European slaveholders in the New World justified the enslavement of non-Europeans by constructing the concept of a white European race as separate and superior to non-Europeans. European legal, military, and religious support for slavery based on racial heriarchies allowed for a long term coerced labor force in the Americas, and Europeans could use the myth of white superiority to avoid their own enslavement.”



Nigga you fully just agreed with me. You are stuck in owning slavery as your black thing vs The actual convo Thomas brings up about slavery pre dating all this bs you just copy pasted. Which is AGAIN why Thomas is fucked up. He knows his audience will use that "beginning of time" argument to not advance things thru govt today.

You just pasting common knowledge. And has nothing to do with the conversation of what Thomas is trying to be slick about. Yall really dumb as fuck mane. stick to one sentences and emojis lil nigga.
 
Nigga you fully just agreed with me. You are stuck in owning slavery as your black thing vs The actual convo Thomas brings up about slavery pre dating all this bs you just copy pasted. Which is AGAIN why Thomas is fucked up. He knows his audience will use that "beginning of time" argument to not advance things thru govt today.

You just pasting common knowledge. And has nothing to do with the conversation of what Thomas is trying to be slick about. Yall really dumb as fuck mane. stick to one sentences and emojis lil nigga.
You calling somebody dumb when that entire paragraph states Europeans justified slavery by using white supremacy. Are you retarded? Yes. Yes you are .

I don’t give a flying fuck about Roman slavery and anything that pre dates Africans coming to America . We are talking about the slavery in the Americas . I’m a descendant of African slavery. You’re trying to sound smart by talking about slavery pre chattel which is a straw man argument for idiots
 
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