{The Official 2021-22 NBA Thread} - Finals: Warriors vs Celtics…{4-2 advantage warriors } Dubs NBA champs, Curry MVP
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So they fired all the white guys
It was a problem. have no bench.
Need to get some vets on the bench for rest.
8-15 those guys were spot fillers.
You were wrong about the Bulldogs winning the SEC Championship but right about the National Championship
You were wrong about the Tarheels and wrong about the Heat but was right about the Warriors.
Meh…I ain’t convinced the Turd curse is broken yet. You got sort of a zigzag thing going on. Lol.
I made good money off you when you picked North Carolina though
Good looking out for that one.
Bruh I watched Hakeem have to score over triple teams every play, be the main rebounder, not only guard his man but everybody else’s man when they got by them at the rim, set up open shots for everybody on the team AND be top 10 in steals.
Every…game…
And basically get zero respect. So I personally have high standards when you start ranking players so I try to to compare them.
Because if you can’t alter a game in at least 2-3 ways, I personally have a hard time putting you above guys that could.
But that’s my own opinion and no slander to any player. Which is why I don’t think you can compare really.
Yep. It was amazing watching ALL of them do that. Then to have folks talk about what great defense they played. Man to man with an occasional flop. That's how the squeaked by in the EC but failed miserably when the got to the Finals. The refs let them play physical but without allowing the flops/fouls to ruin things. During the last game GS went into the fourth quarter having shot only two (2) free throws and they weren't that much better. They won't come out the East next year. If they do they'll be lucky having the face a stronger Nets team. It'll be interesting. Notice I didn't mention Philly. Their stars are also floppers.
What's not to like? He shakes fools off the dribble. Shoots daggers in their face, etc. Talk occasional shit. (LOL)
And that's that.
You're giving credit to size and discounting those who don't have it. Curry's performance, conditioning, etc. is FAR SUPERIOR because of his size. A 6'3" (barely) guard who IS the focus of every teams game plan. Let's start there. A 6'3" guard (barely) who has to be picked up defensively from by the time he reaches HALF COURT because he's THAT dangerous. No one in the NBA is THAT dangerous. You can't praise Hakeem's greatness for being so important that he's doubled and sleep on the triple and quadruple teams Curry has to face at 6'3". The short dude is a giant killer. I think that irritates people. (Not you. Generally speaking)
Who are the top ten basketball players and why? Most of the centers competed pre-modern day NBA and would be be too far of a stretch to say that a) that was a huge part of their success and b) their success was more so due to their size and not skill set? What if Russell faced the likes of O'neal, Hakeem, Malone and Robinson in the Finals? Would he have gotten eleven rings? What we have done is allowed certain players to be etched in stone leaving little to no room for any players to break the top ten mold. Shaq doesn't get the credit he deserves because of this. Hakeem doesn't get the credit he deserves because of this. The only modern day NBA center who gets his due is Jabbar for obvious reasons.
Here are my top ten starting from the Center position. Not a ranking.
1) Jabbar (6)
2) O'neal (4)
3) Hakeem (2)
4) Magic Johnson (5)
5) Larry Bird (3)
6) Jordan (6)
7) Bryant (5)
8) James (4)
9) Curry (4)
10) ?
I don't entertain the Russell has (11) rings thing because the NBA was so small back then you have to add an asterisk. Skill wise he was still a dominant player. Wilt? Two rings despite being the biggest, most imposing Center to play the game before Shaq. I'm struggling to find number (10). Before commenting about leaving Russell and Wilt off who would you put in at (10) or why Curry wouldn't fit in this list. Peace
Here are my top ten starting from the Center position. Not a ranking.
1) Jabbar (6)
2) O'neal (4)
3) Hakeem (2)
4) Magic Johnson (5)
5) Larry Bird (3)
6) Jordan (6)
7) Bryant (5)
8) James (4)
9) Curry (4)
10) ?
I don't entertain the Russell has (11) rings thing because the NBA was so small back then you have to add an asterisk. Skill wise he was still a dominant player. Wilt? Two rings despite being the biggest, most imposing Center to play the game before Shaq. I'm struggling to find number (10). Before commenting about leaving Russell and Wilt off who would you put in at (10) or why Curry wouldn't fit in this list. Peace
I wish they had included the video of the Heat fans who had given up on their team and left the arena early rushing trying to get back in the arena..the arean officials were like “HELL NO“
I wish they had included the video of the Heat fans who had given up on their team and left the arena early rushing trying to get back in the arena..the arean officials were like “HELL NO“
Its
's shame his career was cut short. Colluded with Wade, James and Riley to go to Miami but hey, that was a while ago. (LOL)
Tim Duncan. And Curry wouldnt fit because Duncan, Russell, and Wilt are all top 10.
Duncan would and should definitely be on the list. Why are they a GIVEN. Seriously. Shaq and Hakeem would fuck them up all day an night. Duncan would fuck them up all day and night. That list should EVOLVE as the game evolves. Neither of them changed or impacted the game we see today. Jabbar did that. The centers that came AFTER them did that. Duncan I can agree with but holding spots for players who have a talent, ability, etc. level who have been usurped I can't agree. That's called deference.
yes. they never played. why keep so many nonplayers on the bench. get some cheap vets.So they fired all the white guys
I like Ja but he needs to be quiet,right now
That team needs some vet/player coach leadership. The oldest players on their roster are 28.
I'm a Cavs fan.
I'm a Cavs fan.
LOL OK
You grossly underestimate Wilts impact and talent. He was arguably the most athletic basketball player ever. And to say he didnt change the game can only by chalked up as ignorance or youth. He is the reason the lane is the current size and the rule of goaltending exist bro. You cant just discount and exclude guys solely on the era they played. All factors have to come into consideration, including how they would play given todays sports science, medicine and training. Wilt would dominate on both ends and Russell would be a defensive phenom.
I know all of that and the last time I checked he had a CAREER. Just look at how you phrased it. The most athletic basketball player ever. So you think he'd dominate Shaq four feet from the basket like he did all the other, smaller players he did when he placed? I'm going to lean towards a hard no because the only centers who played Shaq well has a skill set Wilt DIDN'T have (Hakeem). The rule "goaltending" exists because a) it make sense and b) because his SIZE provided him with an distinct advantage over everyone else. A size that no longer rings fear in today's opposition. Hell, a size that HASN'T rung fear in NBA ball players since Shaq's exit.
Speculating what the would do, could do today is a cop out to the highest degree. THEY ARE what they are and denying up and coming ball players the right to move up in the ranks out of deference or worse, fabricating some idea of what they could be today is just dishonest to the process. The equivalent of someone saying Bob Cousy is a top 75 player while far more dominant ball players are denied. The list should EVOLVE because the game is evolving. Peace
They already on that bullshit huh
The Nets will be interesting. I believe if Simmons is healthy (which he should be) they will win a lot of games. The problem will remain though a) coaching and b) bench. It's clear both are a requirement and KD is on record believing coaching isn't as important as time has shown it to be.
I'm a Cavs fan.
You’ve mentioned that before. And just like before, we’re very sorry to hear that!
No. Clearly you didnt know all of that because your comment was that he "didnt change or impact the game". This is patently false. Wilt literally impacted and changed the game to a point where rules were changed to disadvantage his talent and skillset. Rules that stand today. Also not sure what dominating Shaq has to do with anything. I clearly stated that Wilt playing today would dominate the game. Playing today would put his same athleticism and skill in todays game and training and be as dominate now as he was then. Stating that his size was his only advantage discounts his freak athleticism, talent and skillset and further exposes your ignorance on who and what he was.
Speculation isnt a cop out moron. Its a discussion using evidence to predict an outcome. Further, this isnt speculation.. this is projecting a players abilities and how those abilities would present in current day circumstance. Personally, i dont think one needs to do that to justify his placement in an all time list but since YOU wanted to take it there i merely obliged. As for the Cousy shit you pulled out your ass... I wont even entertain it because no one is making an argument for that guy in any way shape or form. Stay focused. Fuck peace.
Bruh Wilt was 7'1 with a recorded 48 inch vertical.
That Brotha would dominate in any era especially today. If Rudy Gobert is a DPOY, has a max contract in the NBA. Then Wilt would be All
Universe!
And yes the game evolves, but players today had to learn from somewhere so it's wrong to discredit the originators and creators.
Regarding Shaq, Shaq was big and most of not damn near all couldn't stand in front of him 4 feet from the basket.
Steph over Lebron and I wish I could've seen Wilt play, bruh was a true athletic gift
Cool experience for ol boy, but I will never understand the need to dry snitch on yourself all in the name of clout
Cool experience for ol boy, but I will never understand the need to dry snitch on yourself all in the name of clout
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