Biden throwing Ukraine under the bus better yet tank…Ukraine Response back by saying fuck you, y’all didn’t listen and where is that $40 billion..lmao

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Biden says Zelensky ‘didn’t want to hear’ U.S. warnings of invasion
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President Biden meets with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office of the White House on Sept. 1, 2021. (Evan Vucci/AP)


President Biden said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “didn’t want to hear it” when U.S. intelligence officials raised warnings of a looming Russian attack before the Feb. 24 invasion.
Biden, who along with Congress has deepened U.S. involvement in the global effort to reject the Russian invasion by recently finalizing more than $40 billion in new military and humanitarian assistance, spoke at a Democratic fundraising event in Los Angeles on Friday night, according to the Associated Press and Bloomberg News. The president spoke about the American commitment to supporting Ukraine four months into the invasion, saying, “Nothing like this has happened since World War II.”
During his talk, Biden also mentioned that his administration had warned Zelensky and the Ukrainian government, based on U.S. intelligence, before the invasion began.
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“I know a lot of people thought I was maybe exaggerating,” the president said, according to the AP.
Biden said he “knew we had data to sustain” that Russian President Vladimir Putin “was going to go in, off the border.”
“There was no doubt, and Zelensky didn’t want to hear it, nor did a lot of people,” Biden said, according to Bloomberg. “I understand why they didn’t want to hear it, but [Putin] went in.”
Ukrainian officials, however, rejected Biden’s account.
Serhiy Nykyforov, a spokesman for Zelensky, told Ukrainian news website LIGA.net that Zelensky had three or four telephone conversations with Biden in the period before the invasion, in which the two leaders discussed the situation. He added that Ukraine had called for preventive sanctions to de-escalate the situation.


“Therefore, the phrase ‘did not want to hear’ probably needs clarification,” Nykyforov said.
Zelensky adviser Mykhailo Podolyak echoed Nykyforov, telling LIGA.net that Ukraine knew Russia was planning an invasion but that questions had remained over the scale of any attack.
“It is absurd to accuse a country of resisting the aggressor for more than 100 days, which prevails if key countries have failed to stop Russia as a precaution,” he said.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment early Saturday.
Biden’s remarks come as Ukraine is on the brink of losing the eastern region of Luhanskto Russia, warning that its outgunned military desperately needs faster Western arms deliveries. Fierce street fighting is continuing in the strategic city of Severodonetsk, but “most of the city is controlled by Russians,” the Luhansk governor said Saturday.
Russia controls most of Severodonetsk, governor says
Kyiv’s European allies have vowed to step up military aid — even as many appear hesitantabout Ukraine’s bid for European Union membership. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen arrived in Kyiv on Saturday to discuss Ukraine’s E.U. candidacy with Zelensky ahead of an expected recommendation from the commission on Ukraine’s status next week.


As the United States and its allies have pivoted to planning for a longer war in Ukraine, Biden has made it no secret that Americans would continue to support Zelensky and the Ukrainian people through aid and weaponry. The Senate recently passed a bill that features a combined $20 billion in military aid and is expected to finance the transfer of advanced weapons systems, such as Patriot antiaircraft missiles and long-range artillery. Also included in the bill is more than $8 billion in general economic support for Ukraine, nearly $5 billion in global food aid to address potential food shortages sparked by the collapse of the Ukrainian agricultural economy, and more than $1 billion in combined support for refugees.
U.S. deepens Ukraine commitment with $40 billion in aid and expanded NATO
Biden recently confirmed that his administration was sending medium-range advanced rocket systems to Ukraine, responding to a top request from Ukrainian officials who say the weapons are necessary to curb the advance of Russian forces in the east. Biden’s announcement triggered an angry response from Kremlin officials, who said they “believe that the United States is deliberately and diligently ‘pouring fuel on the fire.’”
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But before the invasion, some questioned whether Zelensky was prepared for the Russian attack.


As top U.S. and European officials raised the alarm in January that Putin could send troops and tanks across the border, the Ukrainian leader had appealed for calm and implored his citizens not to give in to panic. Zelensky had said — repeatedly — that he was not convinced that a Russian assault was imminent.
“Take a breath,” he said in a video posted to his official website on Jan. 19. “Calm down.”
When acknowledging a potential Russian attack earlier this year, Zelensky attempted to avoid, as he put it, “panic in the markets, panic in the financial sector,” knowing a possible war would be unsettling to the Ukrainian economy.
On Friday night, Biden again took aim at Putin, whom he has blamed for some of the historic inflation in the United States. Biden accused the Russian president of “trying to obliterate the [Ukrainian] culture, not just the nation, but the culture,” according to Bloomberg.


Podolyak told Interfax that the Ukrainian government did recognize the possibility of an invasion.
“Ukraine understood the intentions of the Russians, expected one or another aggressive scenario, prepared for it,” he said.
He added that Zelensky had “high-quality intelligence” ahead of the invasion and that the scale of the attack surprised not just Ukraine but the world.
“The president also responded carefully to all the words and warnings of our partners. The question was always what will be the scope of the invasion?” Podolyak said. “Undoubtedly, the volume of the invasion, which we saw on Feb. 24, shocked many countries, including our partners.”
 
Ukraine Slams Biden's Comments on Zelensky Not Heeding Warnings—'Absurd

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Aides to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have responded to Joe Biden's comment that the Ukrainian president "didn't want to hear" American warnings before Russia's invasion.

Speaking at a Democratic Party fundraiser in Los Angeles on Friday, the president said that the U.S. knew before the start of the war on February 24 that Vladimir Putin was going "to go in, off the border."

"Nothing like this has happened since World War II," Biden said, according to the Associated Press. "But I knew we had data" that showed Putin's intent.
"I know a lot of people thought I was maybe exaggerating and Zelensky didn't want to hear it," Biden added.

Zelensky's spokesman Sergei Nikiforov said the Ukrainian leader had "three or four telephone conversations" with Biden before the war started, during which they discussed assessments of the situation in detail.

"Therefore, the phrase 'didn't want to hear' probably needs to be clarified," Nikiforov told Russian-language Ukrainian news outlet LIGA.net.

"In addition, if you remember, the president of Ukraine called on partners to introduce a package of preventive sanctions in order to encourage Russia to withdraw troops and de-escalate the situation.

"Here we can already say that our partners 'did not want to hear us,'" Nikiforov said.

Meanwhile, Zelensky's adviser Mikhail Podolyak told the same news outlet that Biden's comments were "not entirely true" and that Kyiv had been "well aware that Russia was developing various expansion scenarios."

"[Volodymyr] Zelensky always had relevant analytics on his desk, based on high-quality intelligence," he said. "The president also carefully reacted to all the words and warnings of our partners."
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Podolyak said that Ukraine understood that Russia was planning an invasion and was preparing for it. The question, he said, was over its scale.

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"It is absurd to blame a country that has been resisting a superior aggressor for more than 100 days when key countries were unable to prevent the Russian Federation [from invading]," he added.

In a statement to Newsweek, a U.S. State Department spokesperson said there was no rift between the U.S. and Ukraine over the war and that, "President Biden greatly respects President Zelensky and the leadership he has demonstrated throughout this crisis."

"President Zelensky and the people of Ukraine have inspired the world with their bravery and resilience, showing the world that Ukraine will never be subjugated to Russia," the statement said, adding that the U.S. had provided $5.3 billion in security assistance, including $4.6 billion since February.

"Vladimir Putin is trying to obliterate the Ukrainian nation and its culture, and the United States will not stand by and let that happen."

Although Zelensky has been hailed around the world for his wartime leadership, there are question marks over his preparation for the war, the AP reported.

Weeks before Putin invaded, Zelensky took exception to warnings by the Biden administration about a possible Russian invasion, fearing it would harm Ukraine's economy.

On Saturday, Zelensky told the Shangri-La Dialogue Asian security summit in Singapore that the war had consequences for the global order. "It is on the battlefields of Ukraine that the future rules of this world are being decided," he said via video link.

He also said that his country's forces are facing fierce Russian attacks in the country's east, particularly around the city of Severodonetsk.
 
Yeah, I'm looking at those casualty numbers with the side eye. Supposedly 30,000 Russians have been killed in 4 months....
Let’s just say those number Are right if so Ukraine likely in the 65-70k range

hell Russia have about 9k Ukrainian pow’s

if they get this next batch to surrender, it‘s likely to be about 600 with 200 being foreigners
 
Let’s just say those number Are right if so Ukraine likely in the 65-70k range

hell Russia have about 9k Ukrainian pow’s

if they get this next batch to surrender, it‘s likely to be about 600 with 200 being foreigners

the whole US military had like 58k soldiers killed in Vietnam in like a 10 year period. You expect me to believe Ukraine lost that many in a matter of months ?
 
the whole US military had like 58k soldiers killed in Vietnam in like a 10 year period. You expect me to believe Ukraine lost that many in a matter of months ?

man I think this way different than nam

It seems like them Ukrainians tell a lie just to tell one…

man I only saw once that the Ukrainian MOD showed the death numbers

it was :scared: :scared:
 
the whole US military had like 58k soldiers killed in Vietnam in like a 10 year period. You expect me to believe Ukraine lost that many in a matter of months ?
I know everything shouldn’t viewed as the truth but this all we have to go off…
Especially when they really speak on this

Hell I just realized that’s 3 different departments…. When I made the post I was focused on the 49k but that is actually 53k

True or false…. Idk but last it was projected that Ukraine can lost up to 200k if this operation keeps going
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This the Ukraine numbers that had me :oops::oops:

remember I said unofficial but likely official
Seem like the numbers came from Ukraine personal
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fake ass war! do people really think small ass Ukraine alone can hold off Russie? Sheeeitttt
Ukraine only took a hardline approach because of the U.S. getting them to believe they would help or NATO would assist. Can't wait to hear the excuses when all the dust clears.
 
Yes because essentially what Biden is trying to say with his old grouchy cagey ass is that if they would have jumped on all fours and begged to join NATO - like EVERYBODY wanted them to then it would have stopped Putin from even trying to invade in the first place.

This was a power grab on our part. It didn’t work.

Of course they knew Russia was going to invade especially if you look at what happened with Georgia. Shit was super obvious. Aint got shit to do with Trump either, Putin had a game plan for almost a decade now. Fuck a world wide Covid event too, this be more important.

Zelensky and them Ukraines was trying to preach logic and stay independent so they could appear neutral while still asking us for back up plans and artillery like a hidden baseball for a street fight.

Putin called their bluff and said fuck it, Ima coming in nigga. Do something.


And of course because nobody wanna spark World War 3… them niggas sat back and so did we and let the invasion go down as planned.


Crazy shit.


oNE
 
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