Republicans Enjoy Huge Lead Over Democrats in Midterms: Poll

[lazarus]

Yousa about a dumb muthafucka.
Someone made a statement that suggested 90% of Black men vote.
I simply said I doubt that 90% of any demographic vote.
Your chart confirms my statement.....that is all.

Someone else said that what the original statement was intended to convey is that 90% of Black men vote Democrat. I did not disagree.

For someone calling someone dumb, you should learn to spell.

The chart shows that we vote around or if not more than any other race. And when we do, close to 90% vote in the same manner. Doesn't do shit. Wake the fuck up. Whites will never help you, you fucking house nigga. They been kicking this can for sixty years and all you do is vote them into power. And you have you the nerve to call someone else an idiot.

 

[Supersav]

For someone calling someone dumb, you should learn to spell.

The chart shows that we vote around or if not more than any other race. And when we do, close to 90% vote in the same manner. Doesn't do shit. Wake the fuck up. Whites will never help you, you fucking house nigga. They been kicking this can for sixty years and all you do is vote them into power. And you have you the nerve to call someone else an idiot.

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[Mask]

For someone calling someone dumb, you should learn to spell.

The chart shows that we vote around or if not more than any other race. And when we do, close to 90% vote in the same manner. Doesn't do shit. Wake the fuck up. Whites will never help you, you fucking house nigga. They been kicking this can for sixty years and all you do is vote them into power. And you have you the nerve to call someone else an idiot.

Damn who did what, guess I’m go be nosey and read the thread

 

[gutsdabeast]

For someone calling someone dumb, you should learn to spell.

The chart shows that we vote around or if not more than any other race. And when we do, close to 90% vote in the same manner. Doesn't do shit. Wake the fuck up. Whites will never help you, you fucking house nigga. They been kicking this can for sixty years and all you do is vote them into power. And you have you the nerve to call someone else an idiot.

What's your solution? Not vote? Since Democrats aren't getting it done. Or they're kicking the can. Is the play vote republican?

How do you get tangibles from a party that works just as hard to keep the Black race from voting. republicans don't need Black americans to get power or stay in power.

Is the other option a 3rd party? That's a bigger pipe dream than getting Democrats to give you tangibles. There's not enough Black americans for a 3rd party to be viable. And it would be crushed by republicans because you'd never sway them from their side. The only thing they care about is white supremacy. Kinda counter to Black growth.

I'm assuming you have a solution. I'm sure it's not, "Don't vote." I'm all ears.

 

[lazarus]

What's your solution? Not vote? Since Democrats aren't getting it done. Or they're kicking the can. Is the play vote republican?

How do you get tangibles from a party that works just as hard to keep the Black race from voting. republicans don't need Black americans to get power or stay in power.

Is the other option a 3rd party? That's a bigger pipe dream than getting Democrats to give you tangibles. There's not enough Black americans for a 3rd party to be viable. And it would be crushed by republicans because you'd never sway them from their side. The only thing they care about is white supremacy. Kinda counter to Black growth.

I'm assuming you have a solution. I'm sure it's not, "Don't vote." I'm all ears.

glad you asked.

Vote at a local level to get immediate results with direct influence. While that is happening, help get behind or create your own candidates with their own objectives that directly benefit you. If needed, create a third party or a entity which encompasses black needs as a whole. The main problem is that we don't have anything representing us beforehand. Other organizations have people that go to Washington to lobby on their behalf. This voting blindly business doesn't work and decades of nothing prove that.
Democrats losing badly will also get them to give us more to get us back on board. Enough of this symbolism, we will look into it, bullshit. Sometimes negative reinforcement is needed. Democrats need the black vote, bruh. That liberal, women deserve everything men get and more, we accept trannys is not a popular idea to the rest of America. They only win due to a coalition of minorities.

Black people are waking up. The poll numbers reflect that. The new generation wants results. This you are a coon because you don't believe a white man who helped locked up more black people than ever and in a party that hasn't done anything for you for 60 years yet deserves our vote business, is not only illogical, but it doesn't work. Personally, I think they like remaining in the status quo to have the position of complaining and not having responsibility of their lives.

 

[godofwine]

I tell you what, Democrats are going to get enough I'm taking care of everybody but black people and people who fucking live here. Black people are tired of voting Democrat and not getting nothing for it

 

[gutsdabeast]

glad you asked.

Vote at a local level to get immediate results with direct influence. While that is happening, help get behind or create your own candidates with their own objectives that directly benefit you. If needed, create a third party or a entity which encompasses black needs as a whole. The main problem is that we don't have anything representing us beforehand. Other organizations have people that go to Washington to lobby on their behalf. This voting blindly business doesn't work and decades of nothing prove that.
Democrats losing badly will also get them to give us more to get us back on board. Enough of this symbolism, we will look into it, bullshit. Sometimes negative reinforcement is needed. Democrats need the black vote, bruh. That liberal, women deserve everything men get and more, we accept trannys is not a popular idea to the rest of America. They only win due to a coalition of minorities.

Black people are waking up. The poll numbers reflect that. The new generation wants results. This you are a coon because you don't believe a white man who helped locked up more black people than ever and in a party that hasn't done anything for you for 60 years yet deserves our vote business, is not only illogical, but it doesn't work. Personally, I think they like remaining in the status quo to have the position of complaining and not having responsibility of their lives.

Thank you for replying. I like your ideas. And I agree. It sucks getting very few if anything specific to the Black agenda.

Here's where things falls apart. Not saying your ideas but where democracy fails. Lets say slightly less than 40% the country identify as republican (save that for later).

The idea is to back candidates whose agenda directly ties to the Black agenda. That's great. In local elections that works great. How do you fill that up the ladder. Typically as candidates gain power they require more & more money. Usually their (financial backers) agenda doesn't necessarily align with improving Black lives or Black wealth.

Now lets say this candidate does move up the chain without sacrificing their agenda. How do you get non Black people to vote for this individual? Does the candidate add other minority groups such as Hispanics & Asians agendas to theirs. Do you try to reach liberal white people? How do you reach them with an anti-LGBTQ+ message (or ignore them altogether)? Does that obscure what the candidate is trying to accomplish?

Okay lets bring republicans back into the fold. What do people who vote republican get for their vote? What do they ask for? What they want is to keep Black americans impoverished & beneath them. Regardless of their own status. As long as they feel superior. They don't complain that republican officials won't do anything with gun control even though the majority of republicans want some form. Officials don't care because they know they'll vote for them. I guess similar to how Black americans have vote since before I was born. That's loyalty.

Now with slightly less than 40% the US population voting in one direction. Let's say you have about 10% (all guesses) that could swing in either direction. One side has to please white supremist by promising the status quo. How do you increase your chances with a party that has to deliver more than a superiority complex with actionable items. You have to please green energy enthusiast, Black americans, US born immigrants, Asians, Hispanics, Indians, Muslims, & if you choose their aid LGBTQ+.

It's not possible to please everyone. And it's not possible to make any difference focusing on one of any of those groups because you lose the rest. Until white people's population dwindles significantly you'll never displace their inferiority complex. Especially when they like the middle of the country. Which holds more power than the outer areas or coasts.

 

[lazarus]

Thank you for replying. I like your ideas. And I agree. It sucks getting very few if anything specific to the Black agenda.

Here's where things falls apart. Not saying your ideas but where democracy fails. Lets say slightly less than 40% the country identify as republican (save that for later).

The idea is to back candidates whose agenda directly ties to the Black agenda. That's great. In local elections that works great. How do you fill that up the ladder. Typically as candidates gain power they require more & more money. Usually their (financial backers) agenda doesn't necessarily align with improving Black lives or Black wealth.

Now lets say this candidate does move up the chain without sacrificing their agenda. How do you get non Black people to vote for this individual? Does the candidate add other minority groups such as Hispanics & Asians agendas to theirs. Do you try to reach liberal white people? How do you reach them with an anti-LGBTQ+ message (or ignore them altogether)? Does that obscure what the candidate is trying to accomplish?

Okay lets bring republicans back into the fold. What do people who vote republican get for their vote? What do they ask for? What they want is to keep Black americans impoverished & beneath them. Regardless of their own status. As long as they feel superior. They don't complain that republican officials won't do anything with gun control even though the majority of republicans want some form. Officials don't care because they know they'll vote for them. I guess similar to how Black americans have vote since before I was born. That's loyalty.

Now with slightly less than 40% the US population voting in one direction. Let's say you have about 10% (all guesses) that could swing in either direction. One side has to please white supremist by promising the status quo. How do you increase your chances with a party that has to deliver more than a superiority complex with actionable items. You have to please green energy enthusiast, Black americans, US born immigrants, Asians, Hispanics, Indians, Muslims, & if you choose their aid LGBTQ+.

It's not possible to please everyone. And it's not possible to make any difference focusing on one of any of those groups because you lose the rest. Until white people's population dwindles significantly you'll never displace their inferiority complex. Especially when they like the middle of the country. Which holds more power than the outer areas or coasts.

The coalition would be black, hispanics, immigrant (push an immigrant agenda even though some of us may not enjoy that), fiscal conservatives, religious whites, young whites, and demonize whatever repub candidate there is to give them less of a choice. You don't need half the population, you need a little more than a third. Also, a candidate that wants money back into the taxpayer's money, the average man, and a smooth talker. Think Bill Clinton. The Dems are way off from what they used to be and the repubs have gone further right as well. The middle is wide open the same way Ross Perot was able to make a run.

Also , a sensible gun control solution. You see how both parties are playing politics and are not trying to solve the problem. Most Americans are not hard left or right but want it fixed.

A black, Mexican and white VP would run numbers. Need personality and charm.

 

[kesq]

The coalition would be black, hispanics, immigrant (push an immigrant agenda even though some of us may not enjoy that), fiscal conservatives, religious whites, young whites, and demonize whatever repub candidate there is to give them less of a choice. You don't need half the population, you need a little more than a third. Also, a candidate that wants money back into the taxpayer's money, the average man, and a smooth talker. Think Bill Clinton. The Dems are way off from what they used to be and the repubs have gone further right as well. The middle is wide open the same way Ross Perot was able to make a run.

Also , a sensible gun control solution. You see how both parties are playing politics and are not trying to solve the problem. Most Americans are not hard left or right but want it fixed.

A black, Mexican and white VP would run numbers. Need personality and charm.

While you are busy implementing this masterful scheme, would it be too much trouble to cast a vote against the racists that hate us every once in a while? If you could spare the time, of course.

 

[lazarus]

While you are busy implementing this masterful scheme, would it be too much trouble to cast a vote against the racists that hate us every once in a while? If you could spare the time, of course.

which ones, republicans or democrats?

 

[kesq]

which ones, republicans or democrats?

I'd start with the ones passing voter suppression laws. But that's just me.

 

[Supersav]

I'd start with the ones passing voter suppression laws. But that's just me.

U think the others are ya friends?

 

[gene cisco]

I tell you what, Democrats are going to get enough I'm taking care of everybody but black people and people who fucking live here. Black people are tired of voting Democrat and not getting nothing for it

What's that? Nothing really done about police brutality after all the protests, noise, and virtue signaling in 2020? Still waiting for meaningful legislation? Would you even take powerful rhetoric? Too bad. "January 6" They got all the time and energy for that bullshit, but nothing for the black community. Nothing. Nada. We are witnessing the most elitist bullshit in a long time, but they will demand votes this fall.

I wonder how many black people in NE Ohio who are paying $5 for gas, worried about DWB, and seeing their purchasing power obliterated by inflation, are worried about "January 6" right now. Dems are so out of touch with black America it ain't even funny.

 

[Supersav]

I'd start with the ones passing voter suppression laws. But that's just me.

Neither would piss on you if you was on fire

 

[kesq]

Neither would piss on you if you was on fire

True. But the clear and present danger to Black enfranchisement is voter suppression, so I would deal with the immediate threat to our survival before moving on to other issues.

 

[Supersav]

True. But the clear and present danger to Black enfranchisement is voter suppression, so I would deal with the immediate threat to our survival before moving on to other issues.

Clear and present danger to black people is the same it's always been. There is no good choice between the two political parties where we are concerned. People are poor and unemployed. That doesn't change and neither party has taken meaningful steps to change it. I don't give a fuck about voter suppression. Spend some money on the poor

 

[lazarus]

I'd start with the ones passing voter suppression laws. But that's just me.

so you can't get to vote and get nothing? is that what you are complaining about? I guess that's just you. The problem are the parties to choose from.

 

[gutsdabeast]

The coalition would be black, hispanics, immigrant (push an immigrant agenda even though some of us may not enjoy that), fiscal conservatives, religious whites, young whites, and demonize whatever repub candidate there is to give them less of a choice. You don't need half the population, you need a little more than a third. Also, a candidate that wants money back into the taxpayer's money, the average man, and a smooth talker. Think Bill Clinton. The Dems are way off from what they used to be and the repubs have gone further right as well. The middle is wide open the same way Ross Perot was able to make a run.

Also , a sensible gun control solution. You see how both parties are playing politics and are not trying to solve the problem. Most Americans are not hard left or right but want it fixed.

A black, Mexican and white VP would run numbers. Need personality and charm.

It's something more than just "Don't vote." However I feel this would be a bigger pipedream than just hoping Democrats get to us eventually.

If you push an immigrant agenda you lose white people. They hate that immigrants get time now. And want a wall built. You'll never get conservatives to back a Black agenda. Considering all republicans have to do is play the hits (white supremacy or white disappearing) & they've secured their vote.

Religious whites also vote republican because they care more about keeping themselves above others than their religious beliefs. That was obvious with trump. He was as far from a wholesome candidate & he secured the white religious vote. All of his interactions with the church was transparent & awkward & they didn't care.

Young whites may be more malleable. But for the most part they lean left or right. I don't see this group offering anything to pull them into this. They'd be voting for nothing (like us I suppose). I suspect if this middle group has more conservative views, you wouldn't attract the young conservatives because they'd just lean right where they play the hits. And seems you're against the LGBTQ+ community or at the very least you'd ignore them which would eliminate the progressive young whites.

If all you have are Black americans, Hispanics, & immigrants. You don't have much voting power their. Because what would reliably happen is republicans would diminish that groups ability to vote. They have the position, votes & money to make voting very difficult in the areas the majority of those demographics live. Considering they do it now.

With that said the plan isn't impossible. How do YOU start the process of your solution? How do you create this candidate(s) that's going to touch all of these agendas you feel we need to justify our vote? Do you have someone in mind already? If so, how do you push them? What's the plan to get them financially backed? You need an insane amount of money. How are you going to reach Black americans to put their capitol towards these candidate(s) instead of utilizing their money to survive?

Or is the plan to do nothing until a/or candidate(s) come along. That has made it far enough in the system & back them. How long could that take? And by nothing I mean don't vote &/or vote Independent (essentially a wasted vote)? And if that's the plan are you okay with the country being republican until the new candidate(s) arrive? Considering their platform is white supremacy, are you okay with that? Or are you in a place where that matters? Is the rest of Black america.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

What's that? Nothing really done about police brutality after all the protests, noise, and virtue signaling in 2020? Still waiting for meaningful legislation? Would you even take powerful rhetoric? Too bad. "January 6" They got all the time and energy for that bullshit, but nothing for the black community. Nothing. Nada. We are witnessing the most elitist bullshit in a long time, but they will demand votes this fall.

I wonder how many black people in NE Ohio who are paying $5 for gas, worried about DWB, and seeing their purchasing power obliterated by inflation, are worried about "January 6" right now. Dems are so out of touch with black America it ain't even funny.

Gene Perot

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Not surprising, Joe has nominated Manchin's wife a federal position

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

wow im impressed a hardcore leftist just said truth.

better get out cardi b and do some popeye commercials.

You're definitely a CAC

 

[code_pirahna]

This country gets everything it deserves.

The morons will go back to the republicans who have no agenda at all...

And they will vote in Ron DeSantis in 2024 who is awful....and they get what they deserve.

The very fact that Trump lowered people's mortgage tax credit should have disqualified him WAY BEFORE JAN 6.

 

[lazarus]

It's something more than just "Don't vote." However I feel this would be a bigger pipedream than just hoping Democrats get to us eventually.

If you push an immigrant agenda you lose white people. They hate that immigrants get time now. And want a wall built. You'll never get conservatives to back a Black agenda. Considering all republicans have to do is play the hits (white supremacy or white disappearing) & they've secured their vote.

Religious whites also vote republican because they care more about keeping themselves above others than their religious beliefs. That was obvious with trump. He was as far from a wholesome candidate & he secured the white religious vote. All of his interactions with the church was transparent & awkward & they didn't care.

Young whites may be more malleable. But for the most part they lean left or right. I don't see this group offering anything to pull them into this. They'd be voting for nothing (like us I suppose). I suspect if this middle group has more conservative views, you wouldn't attract the young conservatives because they'd just lean right where they play the hits. And seems you're against the LGBTQ+ community or at the very least you'd ignore them which would eliminate the progressive young whites.

If all you have are Black americans, Hispanics, & immigrants. You don't have much voting power their. Because what would reliably happen is republicans would diminish that groups ability to vote. They have the position, votes & money to make voting very difficult in the areas the majority of those demographics live. Considering they do it now.

With that said the plan isn't impossible. How do YOU start the process of your solution? How do you create this candidate(s) that's going to touch all of these agendas you feel we need to justify our vote? Do you have someone in mind already? If so, how do you push them? What's the plan to get them financially backed? You need an insane amount of money. How are you going to reach Black americans to put their capitol towards these candidate(s) instead of utilizing their money to survive?

Or is the plan to do nothing until a/or candidate(s) come along. That has made it far enough in the system & back them. How long could that take? And by nothing I mean don't vote &/or vote Independent (essentially a wasted vote)? And if that's the plan are you okay with the country being republican until the new candidate(s) arrive? Considering their platform is white supremacy, are you okay with that? Or are you in a place where that matters? Is the rest of Black america.

It's not a bigger pipedream. It's the only way we will get something done. You and others are just too scared to do it and brainwashed to think some white man is going to eventually save you. This is ingrained through religion.

I don't claim to have all the answers but I would suggest starting to gather and form coalitions so that a solution can be made. It's like we are at the same company for 40 years and we refuse to create our own exit plan to start our own business. At the very least, we should start formulating plans and ideas so that we can branch out and get something that represents us more viably.

This entire country is founded on white supremacy and it has been here since we arrived. Republicans aren't doing anything that hasn't already been done. We need to stop this victim mentality of being afraid, get weapons, get united, and stand up for ourselves. This running to the other white master who won't hit you but won't give you your freedom has to stop. It's not accomplishing anything. Black income and the pay gap hasn't moved in 60 years. Prisons are still full of a high percentage of us. Sentences are still unfair. No reparations. Meanwhile, other foreign whites get immediate assistance and we're pumping millions into Israel that is being racist to their black citizens. Same with Ukraine. We fought for equality for 60 years while gays get their agenda pushed to the front within 10 years. Democrats couldn't care less about you. Once you accept that fact, you start to build on your own.

 

[lazarus]

You're definitely a CAC

and you just proved you're a cowardly bitch that can't fathom a black man thinking on his own and not following the white man to help save them. You're low intelligence is why slavery lasted so long.

By the way, I've been on this board longer than you and have already been validated, you dumb fuck.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

and you just proved you're a cowardly bitch that can't fathom a black man thinking on his own and not following the white man to help save them. You're low intelligence is why slavery lasted so long.

By the way, I've been on this board longer than you and have already been validated, you dumb fuck.

You funky CAC that " leftist " term is commonly used by you TrumpKKK supporting alt right terrorists. I bet you also say " democratic plantation. You outed yourself faggot be proud of what you are

 

[darth frosty]

 

[DC_Dude]

She ain't lying. SC collard greens are good as shit....IF you know you know....

I don't know the dude, but I went to an event last night for Clyburn in Columbia, SC and the support he got last night was amazing....

 

[lazarus]

You funky CAC that " leftist " term is commonly used by you TrumpKKK supporting alt right terrorists. I bet you also say " democratic plantation. You outed yourself faggot be proud of what you are

you see anyone agreeing with you? that's because they know you just spouting bullshit, dummy. You want a white man to save you and he hasn't done shit but shit on your hands and you calling someone else a CAC for wanting to have their own. LMAO. you're dumb as fuck. These house negroes have never been able to shake their mentality for four hundred years.

 

[lazarus]

She ain't lying. SC collard greens are good as shit....IF you know you know....

I don't know the dude, but I went to an event last night for Clyburn in Columbia, SC and the support he got last night was amazing....

talking about greens and name dropped charlamange. this bish is phony as fuck. Why is this story relevant in any form about helping black people? Look at the crowd eating it up though. That's all it takes.

 

[gutsdabeast]

It's not a bigger pipedream. It's the only way we will get something done. You and others are just too scared to do it and brainwashed to think some white man is going to eventually save you. This is ingrained through religion.

I don't claim to have all the answers but I would suggest starting to gather and form coalitions so that a solution can be made. It's like we are at the same company for 40 years and we refuse to create our own exit plan to start our own business. At the very least, we should start formulating plans and ideas so that we can branch out and get something that represents us more viably.

This entire country is founded on white supremacy and it has been here since we arrived. Republicans aren't doing anything that hasn't already been done. We need to stop this victim mentality of being afraid, get weapons, get united, and stand up for ourselves. This running to the other white master who won't hit you but won't give you your freedom has to stop. It's not accomplishing anything. Black income and the pay gap hasn't moved in 60 years. Prisons are still full of a high percentage of us. Sentences are still unfair. No reparations. Meanwhile, other foreign whites get immediate assistance and we're pumping millions into Israel that is being racist to their black citizens. Same with Ukraine. We fought for equality for 60 years while gays get their agenda pushed to the front within 10 years. Democrats couldn't care less about you. Once you accept that fact, you start to build on your own.

I don't need white people to do anything for me. I don't need my student debt forgiven. I don't need government assistance. I don't need reparations (I'll accept it when hell freezes over). The only thing I need from white people is to not encroach on my livelihood. Not to murder me if I have a cell phone in my hand. That's what I need.

You say I'm waiting for the white man to save me. In your way to solve our issues you needed 2 groups of whites to save us (religious whites & young whites). Who's brainwashed & running to white master? Clearly you know how this country works.

I don't have any issue with going with a viable plan to force Democrats to provide tangibles for my vote. However I'm not an idiot in thinking that Democrats can't do a damn thing if they have no power. They rely on our votes. But even if they pass a ton of Black focused bills in the house, the senate will block it like Mutombo. Because half this country is republican. So goes half the senate seats. Rural white areas have more voting power than dense cites. So unless you want to convince a bunch of immigrants & Black americans to move to Iowa & Wyoming, this will always be the case.

You make it seem like Black americans are the majority & we're just screwing around. Last I check white people are the majority & still overwhelmingly fear & hate Black americans. How the hell does arming ourselves help? Are we going to have a civil war with white people?

You say we need an exit plan. The only exit plan is to leave the country. Otherwise you have to play by the rules that exist. You can't overthrow the government. You can't change the superpac. You can't change the electoral college. You can't change gerrymandering. You can't change the number of supreme court justices. All of which you need to be different in order to go in a 3rd direction.

I don't care if Democrats care about me or not. The thing they don't do is pass a bunch of bills & laws that put me in a negative situation. It may not help me but it doesn't hurt.

Since the country operates how it does today, what's your today plan since Democrats do nothing for Black americans? I'm assuming you're going to withhold voting? Are you going to reach out to your community to discuss your 3rd party plans & get that ball rolling?

 

[lazarus]

I don't need white people to do anything for me. I don't need my student debt forgiven. I don't need government assistance. I don't need reparations (I'll accept it when hell freezes over). The only thing I need from white people is to not encroach on my livelihood. Not to murder me if I have a cell phone in my hand. That's what I need.

You say I'm waiting for the white man to save me. In your way to solve our issues you needed 2 groups of whites to save us (religious whites & young whites). Who's brainwashed & running to white master? Clearly you know how this country works.

I don't have any issue with going with a viable plan to force Democrats to provide tangibles for my vote. However I'm not an idiot in thinking that Democrats can't do a damn thing if they have no power. They rely on our votes. But even if they pass a ton of Black focused bills in the house, the senate will block it like Mutombo. Because half this country is republican. So goes half the senate seats. Rural white areas have more voting power than dense cites. So unless you want to convince a bunch of immigrants & Black americans to move to Iowa & Wyoming, this will always be the case.

You make it seem like Black americans are the majority & we're just screwing around. Last I check white people are the majority & still overwhelmingly fear & hate Black americans. How the hell does arming ourselves help? Are we going to have a civil war with white people?

You say we need an exit plan. The only exit plan is to leave the country. Otherwise you have to play by the rules that exist. You can't overthrow the government. You can't change the superpac. You can't change the electoral college. You can't change gerrymandering. You can't change the number of supreme court justices. All of which you need to be different in order to go in a 3rd direction.

I don't care if Democrats care about me or not. The thing they don't do is pass a bunch of bills & laws that put me in a negative situation. It may not help me but it doesn't hurt.

Since the country operates how it does today, what's your today plan since Democrats do nothing for Black americans? I'm assuming you're going to withhold voting? Are you going to reach out to your community to discuss your 3rd party plans & get that ball rolling?

You do if you follow the democratic party because you don't decide what issues get fixed. My scenario is that we have the forefront and we use their support the way they use us now. Understand now?

Then you argue the extreme just so you can do nothing and remain in status quo. Your plan is to sit on your ass and just hope they one day turn to your issue? Is that alternative?

You have a defeatist attitude. You do realize whites are running out of numbers. There will be a perfect opportunity to slowly take control with our own demands.
I live in California. Please tell me how my one vote counts in a presidential election?
Yes, I have a network in my community and we are already reaching out to local politicians. Law enforcement is chill, very diverse, and there are many black vets here. They give me nods of respect when I drive by. Ex-military whites are completely different than white liberals or Trumptards. The local politicians do very well in addressing our issues but if we are going to reach the rest of this country, we need to have a voice representing us in full.

 

[gutsdabeast]

You do if you follow the democratic party because you don't decide what issues get fixed. My scenario is that we have the forefront and we use their support the way they use us now. Understand now?

Then you argue the extreme just so you can do nothing and remain in status quo. Your plan is to sit on your ass and just hope they one day turn to your issue? Is that alternative?

You have a defeatist attitude. You do realize whites are running out of numbers. There will be a perfect opportunity to slowly take control with our own demands.
I live in California. Please tell me how my one vote counts in a presidential election?
Yes, I have a network in my community and we are already reaching out to local politicians. Law enforcement is chill, very diverse, and there are many black vets here. They give me nods of respect when I drive by. Ex-military whites are completely different than white liberals or Trumptards. The local politicians do very well in addressing our issues but if we are going to reach the rest of this country, we need to have a voice representing us in full.

Okay you live in California. Who are you reaching out to in Nebraska? What about North & South Dakota? I'm sure you have some contacts in Montana? What about New Hampshire? I could do this all day. Each of those states get 2 senate seats.

So a part of your plan is to wait until their population dwindles & the minorities become the majority? What kind of timeline is that?

I don't have an issue for them (Democrats) to solve. I just need people to not get in my way. Democrats don't get in my way but republicans do. So I vote in my best interest. Which everyone should.

Changing the community locally is a viable plan. That's where you can have an immediate impact. Not sure where I've said that I don't vote locally. Confused there.

How do I have a defeatist attitude? I'm a realist. I understand how this country works. I don't live off of dreams. I worked hard to put myself & my family in a situation that we don't have to rely on anyone. Government or otherwise.

 

[lazarus]

Okay you live in California. Who are you reaching out to in Nebraska? What about North & South Dakota? I'm sure you have some contacts in Montana? What about New Hampshire? I could do this all day. Each of those states get 2 senate seats.

So a part of your plan is to wait until their population dwindles & the minorities become the majority? What kind of timeline is that?

I don't have an issue for them (Democrats) to solve. I just need people to not get in my way. Democrats don't get in my way but republicans do. So I vote in my best interest. Which everyone should.

Changing the community locally is a viable plan. That's where you can have an immediate impact. Not sure where I've said that I don't vote locally. Confused there.

How do I have a defeatist attitude? I'm a realist. I understand how this country works. I don't live off of dreams. I worked hard to put myself & my family in a situation that we don't have to rely on anyone. Government or otherwise.

Now are you using strawman arguments to defend your weak stance.
Why are you so concerned about what I'm doing instead of addressing the main argument? You are throwing anything to see if it sticks because you are avoiding the subject.

Democrats get in your way as well. What are you talking about? You do realize they curtail immigration from black countries, have kept the economy stagnant, and haven't improve your overall life in any form. You are happy they just don't tell you they don't like you?

You didn't answer my question. What is the point of voting for a presidential election in California? Since you're first argument was to ridicule me for not voting. So tell me why I should vote for president then. I'll await your answer.

 

[gutsdabeast]

Now are you using strawman arguments to defend your weak stance.
Why are you so concerned about what I'm doing instead of addressing the main argument? You are throwing anything to see if it sticks because you are avoiding the subject.

Democrats get in your way as well. What are you talking about? You do realize they curtail immigration from black countries, have kept the economy stagnant, and haven't improve your overall life in any form. You are happy they just don't tell you they don't like you?

You didn't answer my question. What is the point of voting for a presidential election in California? Since you're first argument was to ridicule me for not voting. So tell me why I should vote for president then. I'll await your answer.

Don't vote. If you feel your vote is meaningless in California then don't vote. I lived in Maryland & voted for the president when I was able because there's more on a ballot than just president candidate A & president candidate B. Like I said before. I vote for the candidates that works in my best interest. No candidate is perfect.

Immigration has no bearing on my life in any way Regardless of country of origin. They won't take my jobs. If they end up in my neighborhood...such is.

How has Democrats kept the economy stagnant?

My life improves every day because of the work I put in. Not because of what the government has done to improve it. I flourish in any environment. I'm also not naïve to think that republicans can't destroy everything around me for their crazy cult.

Clearly you prefer to live in fantasy land. You do what you feel will better your life & those around you. If that means not voting or waiting for white people to die out. Whatever works for you. Or if your solution is to create & or wait for the perfect candidate in a 3rd party. Do you.

I'll do things my way. Until a viable 3rd party with significant financial & political backing appears. I'm going to fly with the party that doesn't openly encroach on my voting rights while spouting racist rhetoric like it's the 1940's.

 

[xfactor]

pro-white shills came in here and are getting destroyed