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{The Official 2021-22 NBA Thread} - Finals: Warriors vs Celtics…{4-2 advantage warriors } Dubs NBA champs, Curry MVP

Day_Carver said:
Its not a coaching fail. The Celtics are not about to change their entire philosophy of how they play, just because they are in the finals. Just like brown isn’t about to become a consistent player because he’s in the finals. Teams do what they do. Show me a team that changed their entire way of how they played when they got to the finals. Show me one. I’ll wait. Teams might add a wrinkle here and there but at the end of the day, they are gonna play how they play. Substituting a player in and out of the lineup it’s not comparable to changing an entire team’s philosophy. Celtics are who they are…
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But Boston has changed their philosophy, Brown, Tatum and even Smart and White have been driving to the basket more and more in these Finals to take advantage of smaller players having to guard them and it has been working for them, in that last few minutes they wanted to get into a 3 point shooting contest because Steph and Klay had hit some key shots. A team is dumb if they stick with their gameplan when they see that gameplan isn't working, it's what happened to the Rockets some years ago when they saw they weren't making 3's but continued to shoot them
 
Mt Bernard said:
The top 10 talk didn’t start until they made it back to the finals.

And the idea that he needed a Finals MVP to validate him was an ignorant attack. Like if Klay was averaging 30 then Curry is somehow less great. People like Max Kellerman have disingenuously pushed that talking point ad nauseam for years and the whole team is sick of it.
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No. The top 10 nonsense started before then.. And the idea is that to secure a seat in such a heralded position its ok to question if the guy was ever the best player in any of his finals series. Its also ok to admit he clearly wasnt the best during the KD era.

And who gives a fuck what the team is "sick of". Play ball and show up. He did last nite.

Now stfu before i get you banned again. Bitch Nigga.
 
Day_Carver said:
Its not a coaching fail. The Celtics are not about to change their entire philosophy of how they play, just because they are in the finals. Just like brown isn’t about to become a consistent player because he’s in the finals. Teams do what they do. Show me a team that changed their entire way of how they played when they got to the finals. Show me one. I’ll wait. Teams might add a wrinkle here and there but at the end of the day, they are gonna play how they play. Substituting a player in and out of the lineup it’s not comparable to changing an entire team’s philosophy. Celtics are who they are…
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Getting a little closer to the basket is not a life changing shift in philosophy. Let's not act like they've never shot a two before.

Game 1 vs the Nets
Horford scored 20 with only two 3 point attemps compared to 6 3PA in game 4 of the Finals.

Game 3 vs the Nets
Smart, Brown, and Horford COMBINED for four 3PA, compared to attempting 21 in game 4 of the Finals.

There are other examples of them restraining themselves when their shots aren't falling.

They've already demonstrated an ability to play differently. If a coach can't point that out then that's a fail.
 
Mt Bernard said:
It's funny how Curry gets dinged for not being the most "valuable" (supposedly, ludicrously) in 2015 but the discussion in the KD years is always of "best." KD was never the most valuable or most important Warrior and the stats prove it. It has always been Curry's team, nonstop since 2015 aside from when he was hurt.
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Even funnier we consider an evaluation in a top ten discussion as a "ding".. Furthering my point that the guy gets handled with kid gloves and always has. The slightest critique is treated like an attack on his character and parenting skills. Noting that he was never the FMVP and second fiddle during the KD era is somehow sacrilege. And in 3 finals appearances KD was the indisputable best player on those Warriors teams.


Mt Bernard said:
Back to the main point-- When did the "top ten nonsense" start, Melvin? You just said before this series, seemingly indicating you understood it didn't start until the end of the conference finals. ESPN had him at 16 on their top 75 list-- who was talking about Curry as potentially top ten before the Mavs series (that many picked them to lose)? Who, where, what example do you have???
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Top ten rumblings date back before the finals were announced and have been part of the ongoing discussion for some time now. Like ive told you for years now... Stop talking sports!! Simply because your very limited (and new) exposure and viewpoint only account for one source from a few weeks ago doesnt mean thats the only perspective or truth. The fact that you think this nonsense of talking heads prematurely forcing the guy into the top ten discussions is new underscores that you should stfu.
 
pookie said:
But Boston has changed their philosophy, Brown, Tatum and even Smart and White have been driving to the basket more and more in these Finals to take advantage of smaller players having to guard them and it has been working for them, in that last few minutes they wanted to get into a 3 point shooting contest because Steph and Klay had hit some key shots. A team is dumb if they stick with their gameplan when they see that gameplan isn't working, it's what happened to the Rockets some years ago when they saw they weren't making 3's but continued to shoot them
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They drive to kick though. Not really drive to score; feel me. They will revert back to how they been playing all year. An outside of game 3, that's how they played. Again I'm not shocked and don't understand why everyone else is. BOSTON has done what I thought they would do. I just didn't expect them to win game 1....
 
praetor said:
Getting a little closer to the basket is not a life changing shift in philosophy. Let's not act like they've never shot a two before.

Game 1 vs the Nets
Horford scored 20 with only two 3 point attemps compared to 6 3PA in game 4 of the Finals.

Game 3 vs the Nets
Smart, Brown, and Horford COMBINED for four 3PA, compared to attempting 21 in game 4 of the Finals.

There are other examples of them restraining themselves when their shots aren't falling.

They've already demonstrated an ability to play differently. If a coach can't point that out then that's a fail.
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Warriors and the Nets are not the same nor are they comparable. Nets were the worst defensive team to make the playoffs. So yea they should be able to do that against them. Now playing a team where they have to concentrate every play; have to play defense every play; have to think every play; have to execute every play; well that's exhausting. That's tiring and when one gets tired, what do they do ? Revert back to what they been told to do. Jack 3s. Drive and kick. Celtics are who they are and they ain't about to change...
 
Amajorfucup said:
Even funnier we consider an evaluation in a top ten discussion as a "ding".. Furthering my point that the guy gets handled with kid gloves and always has. The slightest critique is treated like an attack on his character and parenting skills. Noting that he was never the FMVP and second fiddle during the KD era is somehow sacrilege. And in 3 finals appearances KD was the indisputable best player on those Warriors teams.



Top ten rumblings date back before the finals were announced and have been part of the ongoing discussion for some time now. Like ive told you for years now... Stop talking sports!! Simply because your very limited (and new) exposure and viewpoint only account for one source from a few weeks ago doesnt mean thats the only perspective or truth. The fact that you think this nonsense of talking heads prematurely forcing the guy into the top ten discussions is new underscores that you should stfu.
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The Warriors have been to 3 Finals without KD who was their indisputable best player on those teams?
 
Mt Bernard said:
Scoring more in a best of seven series does not make someone the best player on a team!!!
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What about more rebounds, assists, blocks, and being the best team defender tasked with defending the best player in the league?

Any of that matter or we ignoring all that too (along with to FMVPs)? :lol:

Mt Bernard said:
A sample size of a few games doesn't tell the story
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As you proceed to offer a sample size as empirical evidence to that effect... :lol:

Cant change history my man.. Bron kicked Steph ass.. He begged KD to save his legacy and they won two straight. KD was easily the best performer in those finals series. These are facts.

Steph finally put the team on his back and had a signature HOF finals performance at age 34 last nite. Props to him.. Lets celebrate that instead of trying to rewrite history.
 
Mt Bernard said:
Scoring more in a best of seven series does not make someone the best player on a team!!!

KD would not have a single championship without Steph Curry. The Warriors were middle of the pack when he was on the team and Curry was not on the floor. Yet they were still elite without Durant. It's not even close. A sample size of a few games doesn't tell the story-- look at his entire history there. The numbers don't lie.

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Fam, you can't talk to that idiot about Steph. Dude is a weird homo on how he acts toward him :smh: Steph is great and the 2nd best pg of all time. People will argue that he is the best pg; if he wins this title. But regardless he will go down as great...
 
pookie said:
The Warriors have been to 3 Finals without KD who was their indisputable best player on those teams?
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Yes. How many have they won without KD? And why did they mysteriously lose the 3rd finals when KD popped his achilles? If Steph was the best player why didnt he put the team on his back and will them to victory against Toronto?
 
Amajorfucup said:
What about more rebounds, assists, blocks, and being the best team defender tasked with defending the best player in the league?

Any of that matter or we ignoring all that too (along with to FMVPs)? :lol:


As you proceed to offer a sample size as empirical evidence to that effect... :lol:

Cant change history my man.. Bron kicked Steph ass.. He begged KD to save his legacy and they won two straight. KD was easily the best performer in those finals series. These are facts.

Steph finally put the team on his back and had a signature HOF finals performance at age 34 last nite. Props to him.. Lets celebrate that instead of trying to rewrite history.
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Why are you posting old faggot? None of your teams have ever won anything and none of your players are in the finals. One choked like he always does and the other didn't even make the play in game. Get your old senile ass the fuck outta here!!
Oh and just a reminder....

Lee Mayberry >>>>>>>CP3
 
Day_Carver said:
Fam, you can't talk to that idiot about Steph. Dude is a weird homo on how he acts toward him :smh: Steph is great and the 2nd best pg of all time. People will argue that he is the best pg; if he wins this title. But regardless he will go down as great...
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Im talking basketball. This guy is talking sexual preferences. GSW fans are a tender bunch. :lol:

San Francisco fagget shit.
 
Amajorfucup said:
Yes. How many have they won without KD? And why did they mysteriously lose the 3rd finals when KD popped his achilles? If Steph was the best player why didnt he put the team on his back and will them to victory against Toronto?
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The fact is the Warriors have made 3 Finals and won a championship with Steph as their best player,; in that Toronto series they also lost Klay Thompson so that left Curry without his other 2 top scorers, do you think if it was Steph and Klay that were out that KD would've been able to put the Warriors on his back and will them to victory?
 
pookie said:
The fact is the Warriors have made 3 Finals and won a championship with Steph as their best player..
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The fact is that they blew a 3-1 lead when LeBron actually had NBA caliber players, panicked, begged KD to come and ran off 3 more finals appearances with KD being the best performer, two way player, team defender, and winning multiple FMVP. When KD left they instantly became one of the worst teams in the league and missed the postseason two years straight.

Why is it so hard for you to accept this? Why are you guys so hyper sensitive to any Curry analysis?
 
Day_Carver said:
Warriors and the Nets are not the same nor are they comparable. Nets were the worst defensive team to make the playoffs. So yea they should be able to do that against them. Now playing a team where they have to concentrate every play; have to play defense every play; have to think every play; have to execute every play; well that's exhausting. That's tiring and when one gets tired, what do they do ? Revert back to what they been told to do. Jack 3s. Drive and kick. Celtics are who they are and they ain't about to change...
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What team is the same or comparable to the Warriors? Lol.

Game 4 vs the Bucks
Smart shot three 3s

Game 7 vs the Bucks
Horford shot two 3s

Game 5 vs the Heat
Smart and Horford only shot three 3s each

Game 3 vs the Warriors
Horford shot two 3s

They won all of these games.

I agree that they're unlikely to change. But they've already proven that they can win games without everyone jacking 3s.
 
Amajorfucup said:
The fact is that they blew a 3-1 lead when LeBron actually had NBA caliber players, panicked, begged KD to come and ran off 3 more finals appearances with KD being the best performer, two way player, team defender, and winning multiple FMVP. When KD left they instantly became one of the worst teams in the league and missed the postseason two years straight.

Why is it so hard for you to accept this? Why are you guys so hyper sensitive to any Curry analysis?
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Because once again you keep saying “without KD“ and leaving Klay Thompson name out even though I just said his name above,. The Warriors had 2 pure shooters before KD got there, made 2 finals and won one, when KD came they had 3 pure shooters made 3 Finals and won 2, when KD got hurt/left they didn't go back to having 2 pure shooters because when KD got hurt/left so did Klay Thompson, so your analysis isn't telling 6he whole story. Thompson comes back this year, the Warriors once again have 2 pure shooters and guess where they are again in the Finals.
 
pookie said:
Because once again you keep saying “without KD“ and leaving Klay Thompson name out even though I just said his name above,. The Warriors had 2 pure shooters before KD got there, made 2 finals and won one, when KD came they had 3 pure shooters made 3 Finals and won 2, when KD got hurt/left they didn't go back to having 2 pure shooters because when KD got hurt/left so did Klay Thompson, so your analysis isn't telling 6he whole story. Thompson comes back this year, the Warriors once again have 2 pure shooters and guess where they are again in the Finals.
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Bro can't reason with hate. It's impossible!! But you laying facts for real for real...
 
4 Dimensional said:
Dray will probably hoop in game 5 at home. All he really need to do is attack the basket. I’m not sure why he doesn’t do that.
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Him and Looney look like they've never played ball offensively!

The shit's weird, they just look so awkward! :lol:

It looks like a kid was given a basketball for the first time and their parent asked them to put the ball in the basket!:roflmao:
 
Day_Carver said:
Bro can't reason with hate. It's impossible!! But you laying facts for real for real...
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:lol: :lol:yeah I see, I've seen it in every debate about Curry it's like they reading off a script because they all say the same thing and then when you mention Klay missing they follow script and ignore what you just said
 
REDLINE said:
Him and Looney look like they've never played ball offensively!

The shit's weird, they just look so awkward! :lol:

It looks like a kid was given a basketball for the first time and their parent asked them to put the ball in the basket!:roflmao:
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Draymond is trying to hard to stick to his distributor role, he's acting like it he shoots instead of passes then people will say he's not the Warriors playmaker anymore, now with Looney he's exactly like you described he'll get the rebound under the basket and just start looking for someone on the perimeter to pass it to, I'm like damnn man you standing right under the goal..lol
 
Hard to believe Boston let one lil dude kill them like that. Marcus Smart might be the worse Defensive Player of the Year ever.

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REDLINE said:
Him and Looney look like they've never played ball offensively!

The shit's weird, they just look so awkward! :lol:

It looks like a kid was given a basketball for the first time and their parent asked them to put the ball in the basket!:roflmao:
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Man, at least Looney looks somewhat skilled around the basket. If Draymond isn't going up for.a uncontested dunk, dude looks uncomfortable and high school level. Last night there was a possession where he could have taken one dribble and been able to take a contested lay up that any decent big man would have done, but he passed the ball back out, much less the time he was playing hot potato with the ball :smh:
 

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