I'm actually for putting out as much disinformation as possible Republicans do it all the time so fuck it.Fake news
No, GOP Senator Didn't Say Saving Fetus Is Worth Losing Mother's Life
The statement attributed to Sen. Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota Republican, spread widely on social media in May 2022.www.snopes.com
U.S. Supreme Court has voted to strike down Roe vs. Wade
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I heard something related to this a few years ago.
China, Russia and Eastern European countries have pretty much cut/eliminated Western countries from adopting orphaned infants from their countries.
This might have something to do with this decision if it goes thru.
Could be they are running out of white kids to adopt. There is a major demographic shift going on not only in America but throughout the whole world…..even though the white population of the whole world is very low.
OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE CREATES IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES FOR HEALTHCARE
May 9, 2022
Politico broke its story at 8:32 pm last Monday: “Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows.” Reporters Josh Gerstein and Alexander Ward’s article spread like wildfire subordinating coverage of the Ukrainian conflict and inflation through the week.
Their reporting was based on a leaked copy of the February 10, 98-page draft of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s opinion on behalf of the court’s 5 conservative justices calling Roe v. Wade “egregiously wrong from the start.”
Per Gerstein-Ward, “The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision — Planned Parenthood v. Casey — that largely maintained the right. “
If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. This ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability
The final ruling is expected next month but the immediate implications for the healthcare industry are significant:
· In each state, legislative committees will be scrambling to evaluate their current abortion laws: if Roe is overturned as expected, each state must pass/re-authorize its laws be addressing access to abortion services, the state’s specifications for fetal personhood (viability) and medication abortions including access through tele-pharmacies, penalties/punishment for violators of its law including civil/criminal prosecution of patients and providers, and how medical migrants who cross state lines for abortion services will be served (or not). Each state will review, update/modify and pass its own law. In at least 20 states, it is expected to be illegal and virtually inaccessible and in 11 others less accessible.
· Hotlines to OB-GYN practices, FQHCs and hospitals will be jammed by curious consumers seeking clarity and anxious women seeking abortions. Messaging to patients by physicians and hospitals will be a priority. In tandem, messaging from insurers and employers to enrollees about coverage be necessary. Employers like Amazon, CitiGroup and others have already noticed their employees about their policy changes given the likelihood Roe is overturned. And clarity about coverage policies, prices, payment options and terms of access will be required of all providers.
· And this week, the Senate’s Democrats have vowed to pass a law to protect Roe though unlikely to pass due to their lack of the 60-votes needed to pass. Nonetheless, it’s a declaration of war for the moral high ground on abortion pitting Democrats who want to “own” the abortion rights and women’s health” against Republicans who want to own fetal personhood and the sanctity of life.
Longer term, this SCOTUS decision will have profound impact beyond abortion services:
· It is sure to be a critical issue in Campaign 2022 this November embedded in the larger issues of women’s health, access to contraception and the affordability of healthcare. It’s a vote-getter: opinions about abortion are strongly held for and against. Currently, the majority of women having abortions are mothers already and 3 in 4 live at/below the poverty level, so bigger issues involving social determinants of health, health coverage in state Medicaid programs, access to prenatal care and income disparities across the entire system are part of the narrative.
· The FDA’s procedures for assuring the safety, efficacy and effectiveness of abortion medications will be more closely scrutinized since medication abortions represent a growing percentage of all abortions (54%). The bigger context for telehealth services and scope of prescribing by advanced practice nurses and pharmacists will also get wider attention.
· Coverage specifications and denial policies in health plans offered by employers and insurers will require compliance with individual state laws re: abortion services including those offered out of state.
· The strict interpretation of the constitution will be scrutinized since the lack of specific reference to abortion is central to Justice Alito’s justification for overturning Roe. Alito wrote: “Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right.” Interpretation of the constitution is a range of other health-related issues will become more frequent in lower court challenges.
My take:
Regardless of this SCOTUS ruling, women will seek out abortion services. Abortion is a topic that requires every healthcare organization—payers, providers, drug and device manufacturers, HIT et al—to weigh in.
The healthcare industry considers the questions of when life begins, when life ends and how life is lived happily and safely. It should be circumspect and proactive in its response to this ruling.
Paul
Resources
Josh Gerstein, Alexander Ward Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows Politico May 2, 2022 www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion
Midwest Abortion Providers Scramble to Prepare for a Post-Roe World New Yorker May 7, 2022
Medication Abortion Now Accounts for More Than Half of All US Abortions Guttmacher Institute February 24, 2022 /www.guttmacher.org/article/2022/02/medication-abortion-now-accounts-more-half-all-us-abortions
“Another Risk in Overturning Roe” New Yorker February 22, 2022 www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/midwest-abortion-providers-scramble-to-prepare-for-a-post-roe-world
www.paulkeckley.com
May 9, 2022
Politico broke its story at 8:32 pm last Monday: “Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows.” Reporters Josh Gerstein and Alexander Ward’s article spread like wildfire subordinating coverage of the Ukrainian conflict and inflation through the week.
Their reporting was based on a leaked copy of the February 10, 98-page draft of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s opinion on behalf of the court’s 5 conservative justices calling Roe v. Wade “egregiously wrong from the start.”
Per Gerstein-Ward, “The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision — Planned Parenthood v. Casey — that largely maintained the right. “
If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. This ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability
The final ruling is expected next month but the immediate implications for the healthcare industry are significant:
· In each state, legislative committees will be scrambling to evaluate their current abortion laws: if Roe is overturned as expected, each state must pass/re-authorize its laws be addressing access to abortion services, the state’s specifications for fetal personhood (viability) and medication abortions including access through tele-pharmacies, penalties/punishment for violators of its law including civil/criminal prosecution of patients and providers, and how medical migrants who cross state lines for abortion services will be served (or not). Each state will review, update/modify and pass its own law. In at least 20 states, it is expected to be illegal and virtually inaccessible and in 11 others less accessible.
· Hotlines to OB-GYN practices, FQHCs and hospitals will be jammed by curious consumers seeking clarity and anxious women seeking abortions. Messaging to patients by physicians and hospitals will be a priority. In tandem, messaging from insurers and employers to enrollees about coverage be necessary. Employers like Amazon, CitiGroup and others have already noticed their employees about their policy changes given the likelihood Roe is overturned. And clarity about coverage policies, prices, payment options and terms of access will be required of all providers.
· And this week, the Senate’s Democrats have vowed to pass a law to protect Roe though unlikely to pass due to their lack of the 60-votes needed to pass. Nonetheless, it’s a declaration of war for the moral high ground on abortion pitting Democrats who want to “own” the abortion rights and women’s health” against Republicans who want to own fetal personhood and the sanctity of life.
Longer term, this SCOTUS decision will have profound impact beyond abortion services:
· It is sure to be a critical issue in Campaign 2022 this November embedded in the larger issues of women’s health, access to contraception and the affordability of healthcare. It’s a vote-getter: opinions about abortion are strongly held for and against. Currently, the majority of women having abortions are mothers already and 3 in 4 live at/below the poverty level, so bigger issues involving social determinants of health, health coverage in state Medicaid programs, access to prenatal care and income disparities across the entire system are part of the narrative.
· The FDA’s procedures for assuring the safety, efficacy and effectiveness of abortion medications will be more closely scrutinized since medication abortions represent a growing percentage of all abortions (54%). The bigger context for telehealth services and scope of prescribing by advanced practice nurses and pharmacists will also get wider attention.
· Coverage specifications and denial policies in health plans offered by employers and insurers will require compliance with individual state laws re: abortion services including those offered out of state.
· The strict interpretation of the constitution will be scrutinized since the lack of specific reference to abortion is central to Justice Alito’s justification for overturning Roe. Alito wrote: “Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right.” Interpretation of the constitution is a range of other health-related issues will become more frequent in lower court challenges.
My take:
Regardless of this SCOTUS ruling, women will seek out abortion services. Abortion is a topic that requires every healthcare organization—payers, providers, drug and device manufacturers, HIT et al—to weigh in.
The healthcare industry considers the questions of when life begins, when life ends and how life is lived happily and safely. It should be circumspect and proactive in its response to this ruling.
Paul
Resources
Josh Gerstein, Alexander Ward Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows Politico May 2, 2022 www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion
Midwest Abortion Providers Scramble to Prepare for a Post-Roe World New Yorker May 7, 2022
Medication Abortion Now Accounts for More Than Half of All US Abortions Guttmacher Institute February 24, 2022 /www.guttmacher.org/article/2022/02/medication-abortion-now-accounts-more-half-all-us-abortions
“Another Risk in Overturning Roe” New Yorker February 22, 2022 www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/midwest-abortion-providers-scramble-to-prepare-for-a-post-roe-world
The Keckley Report - Paul Keckley
www.paulkeckley.com
Like I said this creates a huge slippery slopeOVERTURNING ROE V. WADE CREATES IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES FOR HEALTHCARE
May 9, 2022
Politico broke its story at 8:32 pm last Monday: “Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows.” Reporters Josh Gerstein and Alexander Ward’s article spread like wildfire subordinating coverage of the Ukrainian conflict and inflation through the week.
Their reporting was based on a leaked copy of the February 10, 98-page draft of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s opinion on behalf of the court’s 5 conservative justices calling Roe v. Wade “egregiously wrong from the start.”
Per Gerstein-Ward, “The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision — Planned Parenthood v. Casey — that largely maintained the right. “
If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. This ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability
The final ruling is expected next month but the immediate implications for the healthcare industry are significant:
· In each state, legislative committees will be scrambling to evaluate their current abortion laws: if Roe is overturned as expected, each state must pass/re-authorize its laws be addressing access to abortion services, the state’s specifications for fetal personhood (viability) and medication abortions including access through tele-pharmacies, penalties/punishment for violators of its law including civil/criminal prosecution of patients and providers, and how medical migrants who cross state lines for abortion services will be served (or not). Each state will review, update/modify and pass its own law. In at least 20 states, it is expected to be illegal and virtually inaccessible and in 11 others less accessible.
· Hotlines to OB-GYN practices, FQHCs and hospitals will be jammed by curious consumers seeking clarity and anxious women seeking abortions. Messaging to patients by physicians and hospitals will be a priority. In tandem, messaging from insurers and employers to enrollees about coverage be necessary. Employers like Amazon, CitiGroup and others have already noticed their employees about their policy changes given the likelihood Roe is overturned. And clarity about coverage policies, prices, payment options and terms of access will be required of all providers.
· And this week, the Senate’s Democrats have vowed to pass a law to protect Roe though unlikely to pass due to their lack of the 60-votes needed to pass. Nonetheless, it’s a declaration of war for the moral high ground on abortion pitting Democrats who want to “own” the abortion rights and women’s health” against Republicans who want to own fetal personhood and the sanctity of life.
Longer term, this SCOTUS decision will have profound impact beyond abortion services:
· It is sure to be a critical issue in Campaign 2022 this November embedded in the larger issues of women’s health, access to contraception and the affordability of healthcare. It’s a vote-getter: opinions about abortion are strongly held for and against. Currently, the majority of women having abortions are mothers already and 3 in 4 live at/below the poverty level, so bigger issues involving social determinants of health, health coverage in state Medicaid programs, access to prenatal care and income disparities across the entire system are part of the narrative.
· The FDA’s procedures for assuring the safety, efficacy and effectiveness of abortion medications will be more closely scrutinized since medication abortions represent a growing percentage of all abortions (54%). The bigger context for telehealth services and scope of prescribing by advanced practice nurses and pharmacists will also get wider attention.
· Coverage specifications and denial policies in health plans offered by employers and insurers will require compliance with individual state laws re: abortion services including those offered out of state.
· The strict interpretation of the constitution will be scrutinized since the lack of specific reference to abortion is central to Justice Alito’s justification for overturning Roe. Alito wrote: “Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right.” Interpretation of the constitution is a range of other health-related issues will become more frequent in lower court challenges.
My take:
Regardless of this SCOTUS ruling, women will seek out abortion services. Abortion is a topic that requires every healthcare organization—payers, providers, drug and device manufacturers, HIT et al—to weigh in.
The healthcare industry considers the questions of when life begins, when life ends and how life is lived happily and safely. It should be circumspect and proactive in its response to this ruling.
Paul
Resources
Josh Gerstein, Alexander Ward Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows Politico May 2, 2022 www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion
Midwest Abortion Providers Scramble to Prepare for a Post-Roe World New Yorker May 7, 2022
Medication Abortion Now Accounts for More Than Half of All US Abortions Guttmacher Institute February 24, 2022 /www.guttmacher.org/article/2022/02/medication-abortion-now-accounts-more-half-all-us-abortions
“Another Risk in Overturning Roe” New Yorker February 22, 2022 www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/midwest-abortion-providers-scramble-to-prepare-for-a-post-roe-world
The Keckley Report - Paul Keckley
Welp...there goes the GOP midterms
Right and that’s what non healthcare professionals don’t fucking understand. It’s going to be major repel affect if this shot happens.
You guys maybe incorrectly calculating this election.
Why not? That is what “Doctor Bill” Gates did once the global human trial vaccination plan for COVID was underway.
Actually, he was “fired” from all corporate ties (board seats or corporate executive positions) as a cover.
Kind of sad how the Democrats let the Republicans beat them in politics consistently.
You may be underestimating the reaction to over turning a major law.
I agree this is a big deal but although the inflation isn't bidens fault people usually vote based on what economic situation is going down. That along with gas prices makes this one hard to gauge.
Do you think white women are going to vote for a democrat? I’m not trying to shit on white women but I wouldn’t bet my money on white women.
Demcrats can try to appeal to black apathetic voters, or they can hope and pray white men/people vote for a democrat. Democrats have been praying for 60 years.
Yeah I'm a progressive so I'm taking a Democrat over a Republican any day however this situation is unique. It definitely energizes the base though so dems could crush the buildings.
Listen. You need new voters. Are voter registrations going up?
No one I know is even talking about the leaked decision like that. I know it’s anecdotal but I’m closer to the people of my community that the damn DCCC.
No I don't necessarily agree with that. You don't need new voters you just need the people that showed up on the presidential election years to show up in the midterms. This is the type of issue that can accomplish this.
The people of the suburbs cannot be trusted. You can’t expect white people to turn on white people.
It literally just happened 2 years ago.
We saw even many white people were like no more Maga. It could happen again as I said difficult to predict.
Don't be so sure.
Don't forget that one of Donald Trump's re-election slogans was "promises made, promises kept".
By overturning Roe vs Wade the GOP just fulfilled a HUGE promise.
Now more than ever they're going to be leaning on their base to elect congressman and senators who can give this decision teeth. Meanwhile, the Democrats have let their people down by letting things get to this point in the first place.
That's why I believe the GOP is going to kill it in the midterms.
It's possible but the only reason the dems struggle in midterms is voter turnout if this gets people to turnout the Democrats easily win and this could get people to turnout.
The majority of white women have voted for a Democrat for President only twice in modern political history: LBJ and Clinton in '96.
I really don't give a fuck about these idiot cac bitches but this shit is going to have a severe impact on Black women which is no accident. We already have a healthcare system that fails Black women through both ignorance and actual malice so this will be a force multiplier for all of that.
I wear Raw shirts already... brah
Fails? Do you think this system views black female deaths as a failure?
The majority of white women have voted for a Democrat for President only twice in modern political history: LBJ and Clinton in '96.
I really don't give a fuck about these idiot cac bitches but this shit is going to have a severe impact on Black women which is no accident. We already have a healthcare system that fails Black women through both ignorance and actual malice so this will be a force multiplier for all of that.
When was the last time white men voted for democrats?
Why is the Democratic Party chasing white votes?
Dems struggle because they present shitty candidates and then try to blame the apathetic non voters for not voting.
This will definitely energize the Democratic base. Their voter turnout will be huge.
But it works both ways.
In 4 years the Republicans delivered on a Muslim ban. Delivered on gutting the ACA. Delivered on their promise to pack the supreme court. Partially delivered on the border wall.
Overturning Roe vs Wade is about to be their biggest victory of all. And right now they're on 3rd and goal.
Meanwhile most Democrats live in states where their access to abortion will be protected no matter what. In some of these states abortion access will even improve to accommodate women from around the country.
Republicans are playing to win. Democrats are playing not to lose. That's why I give the GOP the edge on this one.
No it doesn't work both ways actually it's well known Republicans only have gains when the voter turnout is low. When voter turnout is high Republicans lose.
That's been true so far, but this is different!
One of the core beliefs of the Evangelical movement is that America is God's favored nation. That his blessings or wrath depend on how closely every man woman and child sticks to His laws.
Another core belief is that abortion is murder!
This is the real reason they've been so gung-ho on ending Roe vs Wade. It has nothing to do with women's rights, reproductive rights, or health care. It's about ending the murder of millions of babies so that God will bring an end to hurricanes, war, and disease and bless the nation with prosperity.
Democrats see this as a political issue. Republicans see it as a holy war!
Yeah, but you know the Vulcan tummy punch method that is 100% effective for unwanted children.
It's true, y'all arguin ass niggas are fucking exhausting and I can only take this BGOL shit in lil chunks these days. Most of y'alls takes is busted as hell lmao.
Of course you've alluded to EXACTLY that. Your post (and all these paragraphs you typed) was in response to mine in which I pointed out that the logical conclusion to the erosion of these kinds of hard won Civil Rights legislation would obviously one day extend to something as fundamental to Black folks as 'Brown vs Broad of Education'. That's as clear an allusion as you could've possibly made without just saying the thing. That's what an allusion is my G. If that wasn't your intention you need to step your allusion game up.
I don't know that there is tbh. You're making an absolutely wild claim here for sure but the onus is on you to prove it. I personally love data. Make your case my dude. Let's see it in it's final form on some Super Sayian shit. No allusions or suggestions. Before you do so let's be clear on a couple of things:
a) Don't mistake my disgust for conservative arguments as "ad-hominem" attacks. I legitimately hate conservative ideology. IMO, most conservative arguments (in the American political context especially but not exclusively) are consistently very, very dumb, mean spirited/selfish, regressive and/or lionizing some previous status quo, totally un-realistic and un-tethered from reality, morally bankrupt and extremely easy to unpack and disassemble. That's just my opinion on having thought my way through a lot of this stuff over many years. Don't take it personal lol! It's not you, it's the ideology that sickatates me.
b) Thurgood Marshall would be turning in his grave rn lol. Correlation doesn't equal causation and there has been an array of deliberate policies and structures aimed VERY specifically at disenfranchising black Americans historically (the impact of which reverberates into the present day) that likely account for something like the black/white wealth gap as an example which persists in a very real way in 2022. There's a lot to say and discuss about the failures of "incrementalism" in the context of legislative/activist efforts to undo literal centuries of codified legal dehumanization. I'm not here to argue that these efforts have been perfect or that there isn't a lot of work to do yet. But to move from this vague dissatisfaction with incrementalism to a full-throated (or even muted) endorsement of a return to segregation would be some literal clown shit. I would argue that there are ideas, legislation, activism opportunities and honest to goodness WORK to be done that would be more worthy of your time (if you're honestly interested in improving the status quo) rather than engaging in a disingenuous thought experiment about how useful 'Brown vs Board of Education' was "really", especially given how hard our forefathers fought for the legal recognition of our essential humanity/equality. I'm completely baffled by the position you're staking out, on some real shit.
Feel free to debunk Sowell on this point, rather than punching the air or dismissing it as a "GOP talking point" or "it's from a Republican website so I ain't reading it". I get the impression that you're of a higher intellect than someone like Darkkman.
Okay, Let's Talk About Charlottesville
Ann Coulter: So Joe Biden launched his presidential campaign talking about Charlottesville. Thisweb.archive.org
Lmao stop tryna lure me into your beef with @Darkkman , dude is cool and I've got no problems with him. Dem supporters are closer to reality than the perpetual "both sides!" apologists imo.
I fixed your link after searching for the article source myself but would disagree that folks are wrong to be dismissive about these kinds of bullshit sources. I don't read conservative propaganda and neither should anyone else. I mean look at that Ann Coulter/Townhall link you initially posted bruh, who tf has time for that kind of shit?
If anything the Dunbar school's early success speaks to how fucking amazing black folks are. To triumph at this level in the face of so much adversity? Ironically, it turns out that one of it's graduates (Charles Hamilton Houston) was one of the literal architects of 'Brown vs Board of Education'
Furthermore, this example misses the mark in a number of important ways: For one thing, it drew the literal best and brightest black educators from all over the country, existing as it did as the premier schools for black kids in one of the only places that allowed for black education at the time. For another, examples of black folks succeeding in spite of the massive forces arrayed specifically against us are numerous and aren't particularly instructive in the context of expanding rights and access for everyday black Americans. See below with regards to Dunbar:
The thing about a guy like Sowell that you always have to remember is.... dude is a fundamentally broken down Stephen-ass-nigga who's sole entire purpose is to gleefully pantomime white grievance politics and make it palatable for CACs.
Whew, but anyways, here we are, dozens of pages into a sad thread about the very predictable erosion of human rights led by medieval conservative psychopaths (engineered over decades by ONE SIDE) and we're now debating the merits of other Civil Right landmark legislation. Good times lol
I did some research, it looks like you were eligible to marry during the Roman times when you hit puberty for male and female when all this Christian nonsense came out. Overtime this has slowly creeped up to almost 30 years old. The age at which you can support a wife and family has increased, very few decent paying jobs available to somebody just coming out of high school. If you don't finish high school and just work, which was common back in the day, you are looking at minimum wage jobs. I don't think it is possible for somebody to leave high school and financially support themselves with housing.
Than you have religious dogma saying you should wait until you are married and criminal code shunning any sexual activity of young adults.
Catholicism. Catholicism equates premarital sex with fornication and ties it with breaking the sixth commandment ("Thou shalt not commit adultery") in its Catechism: Fornication is carnal union between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman.
All of this is a cesspool that leads to unwanted pregnancies and sexual assaults, damn it 15 to 20 years before you are situated right to unload on a seal proper. It reminds me of prison where inmates are sexually deprived and turn to homosexuality.
This Supreme Court ruling could be the impetus for society to make changes that are sorely needed. We should not sex deprive young adults like a prison inmate as punishment. Look at the priests that spew this nonsense engage in child pedophilia.
Reforms to reduce abortions and fornication:
Based on Roman practices tying marriage to puberty for male and female, this is God's will. It is for us to pair bond with a seal and unload our freight. The practices we engage in now encourage promiscuity such as not allowing formal vows with another person since it is a criminal act and seen as violation of the bible. We continue to extend childhood until your 20's and 30's instead of responsibility and commitment as early as possible
This would greatly reduce unwanted pregnancies from two people casually having sex due to the inability to formalize their pair bonding with anybody.
You can easily create an LLC, LLP (common law marriage) that allows people to quickly formalize their pair bonding together without any financial entanglements.
It is not to create this 20 year celibacy journey with a women that is unnatural until you are able to get married and financially support your wife and children.
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