He can talk shit now but he
didn't do or say shit that day,
when it really counted. Don't
talk all hard now, nigga.
They not hearing you homie. He had no come back that night. He was shook by the so called softest nigga that ever rapped.
Chris Rock says, "I GOT SMACKED BY THE SOFTEST NIGGA THAT EVER RAPPED!"
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They not hearing you homie. He had no come back that night. He was shook by the so called softest nigga that ever rapped.
And rock woulda got mopped. Will is a trained boxer no matter what these fronting niggas claim. He would whoop 90% or more of bgol niggas
He can talk shit now but he
didn't do or say shit that day,
when it really counted. Don't
talk all hard now, nigga.
spoken like dudes with no real world perspective and nothing to lose.
THIS IS STUPID. ROCK HANDLED IT PERFECTLY. HOW WOULD ANYONE IMAGINE THAT THIS ACTOR WOULD WALK UP AND SLAP HIM ? ON WORLDWIDE LIVE TELEVISION. OF COURSE, HE IS GONNA JOKE NOW. THAT'S WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING.
Why are people continually saying Chris was the bigger man. That could be the case but in my opinion he didn't do anything out of fear of getting hurt. It's no shame in that. It's human nature to fight or look for an alternative. At best, I'd say he was shocked and didn't know how to react.
Based on what has been said about Rock's upbringing of allegedly being bullied, he probably carried a part of that into adulthood. People can change over time but sometimes regardless of how much your life has changed you are still the same person you were as a kid or young adult. He just regressed to the kid that got bullied. He wasn't being the bigger man, thinking about money or how whites would view black people. A larger man stepped to him and he made the safes decision for him to avoid physical harm.
I never really looked at the clip in detail, but I don't recall him taking shit in the moment. If I'm incorrect and he did respond similarly, I don't see an issue with him continuing to do so. However, if he didn't I agree to a certain extent why talk shit from a safe distance. He didn't need to physically swing on Will that night, but he could have done so verbally and chose not to. That doesn't mean he can never speak on it.
That proves my point.
Internet gangsta.
Internet gangsta.
STFU!
he wasnt being the bigger man.
he was being A professional.
a pro gets the job done. he had to host the rest of that show.
it wasnt a sporting event where he could get into a fight, get tossed out the game and get replaced.
NOBODY else was able to just jump in and do his job.
in the face of adversity he finished what he was hired to do.
No serious black… ? Huh?
Anyways, NO. Don’t believe that.
For folks involved in the industry the Oscar speaks volumes. For Artists and actors and directors and producers those dumb little statues speak to the rest of the world. Mainly because it is a way that they celebrate themselves. For us to be included in the game is one thing but to do it BETTER than they can and win them over is a victory more pronounced than anything they do. Look at the fact that Will Packer produced the show. After all these damn years, Packer - of ALL people was the BLACK producer of the biggest Hollywood show in history and there it is - produced the biggest controversy of any awards show, anywhere, cemented in the books. Two rich blacks. Forever. Its a mess.
The Oscar gives people hope, careers, writing gigs, networks producers and meetings and bankrolls films and B films and videos for behind the scenes and opens doors for all the crew and builders and shipping and caterers to keep doing what they do regularly.
It validates and verifies the talents and latent abilities of the professional be it as a creator or a thespian or a vessel for an entire race of people.
Will Smith could never imagine in his wildest dreams that he would win an Oscar. He’s been trying to validate himself as a real actor for the last twenty years.
Steve McQueen won for Twelve Years a Slave and it rocked white folks! His film Shame was better and wasn’t nominated at all.
Denzel won for Training Day and made an instant hood classic and its black director from Pittsburgh made history without winning.
Halle Berry won for playing a downtrodden character that would USUALLY be played by a white bitch and owned that shit.
Viola Davis is a powerhouse of a performer. She can out at any white chick they put her next to.
Meanwhile Tom Cruise out here doing all kinda roles, some serious, some traumatic, some funny and some heroic - including taking out his extreme daredevil vices on film for all of us to see and that nigga pushing 60 and STILL don’t have an Oscar for anything - ever
Can’t beat white racism by ignoring it. But we can chip away at it by showing them just how wrong they are about us.
oNE
He was being a professional and the organization that hired him allowed the man who physically assaulted him to remain in the building and worse accept an award. He was so professional that he didn't make any further jokes at Will's expense that night which is his profession and what got him assaulted in the first place. For the record, I'm not saying he should have fought Will, but the narrative that he was being a professional or the bigger man is bullshit. If that were the case, he wouldn't be talking shit now. Your professionalism doesn't stop at the office.
how ever you want to word it I believe his actions or lack there of were likely based out of fear. Im not in anyway trying to shame him. Now if Chris was a regular working man who feared losing his job by retaliating against Will I'd be more open to that perspective. I've seen and heard this happen at different jobs and I'm sure we've all declined to even verbally engage with someone at work ourselves. We are not in the same position as Chris. Chris's career and fanbase makes it that he didn't have to concern himself with accepting disrespect with no response if it was no more than leaving after Will was not forced to leave. Regardless of his actions Chris wasn't going to be worrying about how he was going to feed is family and being professional does not mean allowing yourself to be disrespected.
People get disrespected every day, the only people who seem to be worried about Chris not doing anything are the keyboard gangsters, while Chris is being showed love and support from all his peers in Hollywood. I doubt all the people who are paying top dollar and selling out his shows give a fuck about Chris not doing anything.
the only one who got anything out of the racist Oscars was Sidney, no black man or woman benefitted from itNo serious black… ? Huh?
Anyways, NO. Don’t believe that.
For folks involved in the industry the Oscar speaks volumes. For Artists and actors and directors and producers those dumb little statues speak to the rest of the world. Mainly because it is a way that they celebrate themselves. For us to be included in the game is one thing but to do it BETTER than they can and win them over is a victory more pronounced than anything they do. Look at the fact that Will Packer produced the show. After all these damn years, Packer - of ALL people was the BLACK producer of the biggest Hollywood show in history and there it is - produced the biggest controversy of any awards show, anywhere, cemented in the books. Two rich blacks. Forever. Its a mess.
The Oscar gives people hope, careers, writing gigs, networks producers and meetings and bankrolls films and B films and videos for behind the scenes and opens doors for all the crew and builders and shipping and caterers to keep doing what they do regularly.
It validates and verifies the talents and latent abilities of the professional be it as a creator or a thespian or a vessel for an entire race of people.
Will Smith could never imagine in his wildest dreams that he would win an Oscar. He’s been trying to validate himself as a real actor for the last twenty years.
Steve McQueen won for Twelve Years a Slave and it rocked white folks! His film Shame was better and wasn’t nominated at all.
Denzel won for Training Day and made an instant hood classic and its black director from Pittsburgh made history without winning.
Halle Berry won for playing a downtrodden character that would USUALLY be played by a white bitch and owned that shit.
Viola Davis is a powerhouse of a performer. She can out at any white chick they put her next to.
Meanwhile Tom Cruise out here doing all kinda roles, some serious, some traumatic, some funny and some heroic - including taking out his extreme daredevil vices on film for all of us to see and that nigga pushing 60 and STILL don’t have an Oscar for anything - ever
Can’t beat white racism by ignoring it. But we can chip away at it by showing them just how wrong they are about us.
oNE
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Fam - every black person after him that won an Oscar did too. We looking at the proof whenever we see anything about “the slap”.
I STILL cant believe thats what they calling it. The slap heard across the world. There’s a few different ones.
SMH
oNE
Are we really discussing the, “He can talk all the shit he wants but he didn’t do nothing that night” narrative.
He’s a fucking comedian. Let him fucking tell jokes. I swear everyone wants everyone to be fucking tough guys. He don’t want to be a tough guy. He wants to tell fucking jokes. Cats got to stop being so sensitive and fucking engage in another emotion besides anger. Try laughing for once.
He’s a fucking comedian. Let him fucking tell jokes. I swear everyone wants everyone to be fucking tough guys. He don’t want to be a tough guy. He wants to tell fucking jokes. Cats got to stop being so sensitive and fucking engage in another emotion besides anger. Try laughing for once.
Like i said, you have no real world perspective and nothing to lose.
If you had either of these you wouldnt be saying any of this.
That's what I'm saying brah. You talking shit when he isn't around, but smiled and took that smack in the moment. It's like Smokey when he's shit talking Deebo. "He be like, shut the fuck up. I be quiet, but when he leave, I be talking again."He can talk shit now but he
didn't do or say shit that day,
when it really counted. Don't
talk all hard now, nigga.
Stop it. Some of you value money over everything including your self respect and safety. To be clear, having respect for yourself doesn't mean responding with violence.
There is nothing unprofessional about asking for someone who assaulted me to be removed. More importantly Chris should not have had to ask for this to happen and even if Chris said it wasn't necessary they still should have removed Will out of respect for Chris and for both of their safety.
So explain the perspective i don't understand and all the things id lose for having respect for myself. what would he had lost by leaving the building after being assaulted and the person who did it was not removed? What would he had lost by verbally addressing the issue in the same manner when he was not in the presence of Will that night. Neither of those acts would have been wrong given the situation and one of them falls inline with his job of being a comedian.Was part of his job to be assaulted that night?
So Will Smith is hard core?
what did I miss?
what did I miss?
Think Chris would have called Will soft to his face? Fuck no... Easy to be tough from a distance.
So some are offended by a COMEDIAN talking shit?
Some of the thread replies sound like the online version of the "spongey haired" (according to Dave Chappelle) clown who rushed Dave
Apparently, this guy had enough of Dave talking shit and decided to do something about it
But....
A comedy club is NOT the Oscars so...
Some of the thread replies sound like the online version of the "spongey haired" (according to Dave Chappelle
) clown who rushed DaveApparently, this guy had enough of Dave talking shit and decided to do something about it
But....
A comedy club is NOT the Oscars so...
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Win, lose, or draw a mfer put his hands on me we fighting
Btw don't let their training in Hollywood fool u they not real fighters lol this has been discussed many times by ppl in the industry where they tell u it doesn't carry over lol
I'm not saying Will can't fight but don't let the roles he plays amp u up to think that means he knows how to really fight cause he did that shit in movies lmao
You have never had a career where one bad night is seen by millions.
Youve never had a career where one bad night could lose you millions, if not your entire career.
Will Smith is getting that treatment for having one bad night.
Chris Rock is moving forward after one bad night.
The difference is that Chris handled it like a pro.
Had he done that shit you're talking about, he wouldve risked getting that treatment too.
Let the white people punish Smith and be the bad guys. Rock let Smith have his Oscar win on screen. That was a smart business move and it gives him leverage. Smith knows that Rock couldve made him go home and not receive his win.
What youre talking about is the stuff non entertainment careers are made of.
Exactly. Street niggas wanna apply checkers rules to a professional men's chess game cuz that's all street niggas know and they don't know any better. Street niggas think everything revolves around proving their manhood. They never grow beyond that. As you pointed out, CR is a professional who has far more to lose than his manhood. He handled the situation correctly.
You mean professional fighters? Yeah they would put Will Smith in the amber lamps cause he not used to gettin hit, that's totally different though but what you know about it chief? I been around it and I've also seen Will move he ain't no motherfuckin slouch. Like I said, 90% of you niggas.
Respectfullly, you sound dumb as fuck. I'm not concerned about future earnings if I'm being assaulted as a famous entrainer who is already a multi millionaire. Having morals has failed every entertainer? Dave Chappelle never bounced back? Muhammad Ali was done after not going to war. 50 does shit at the expense of Starz all the time that could potentially fuck up his potential future earnings. Chris Rock was not endanger of losing anything by taking some form of action and can afford to have a little self respect. Even if you are going the route of being professional, keep the same energy and don't talk about it. If you do respond, it's through a PR team.
You know the difference between me and Chris Rock? If I show up for work, I'm assaulted and I physically defend myself, I'm losing my job. Typically speaking no one cares who started the fight. I'll need to find work immediately and in all likelihood I've been living check to check. In the meantime, ive better have my saved funds (if any) right for myself and the family. Let's take it further. Even if I do nothing and the person who assaulted me was not fired and I talked shit after the fact, I could still be fired for harassment regardless of why I was doing it.
I don't know Chris or Will's finances but im going to guess neither is losing sleep positive or negative. Not only that, but they both have funds to produce their own products. Even if Chris ticket sells are increasing, at his level I'm sure he prefers getting the sales for be good at his craft and not because he was smacked for the world to see.
Chris Rock is lucky that all Will Smith did was smack him and walked off. So you're saying if you are in Chris's shoes and you'll pick the same path? If not, what are you talking about? What aren't you willing to accept to keep revenue coming in and what are you willing to do for future work as a multi millionaire?
I'm not remotely a street nigga or tough guy and fighting Will Smith was not Chris's only option. I'll ask you the same question. Exactly what did he have to lose by asking for Will to be removed or allowing it to happen? Why didn't he continue to verbally make jokes at Will's expense that night? Why didn't he leave himself? As multi millionaire what did he really gain?
Like I said before, some of you have no morals for yourself when it relates to money and will except anything as long as you are paid regardless of your station in life. Being a multi millionaire does not just give you the ability to buy luxury items or go on expensive trips, it gives you the freedom to make decisions that fall inline with your morals at the potential expense of future revenue.
I'm not a professional fighter and i don't claim to be one
Grew up in the PJs fighting so unless u actually saw Will really fighting a person on the street it doesn't count
I fought in the Boys Club amateurs from 13-17 yrs old so I'm no slouch either just didn't take it serious cause i was caught up in those streets. But just cause i made the newspaper all my freshman yr don't make me a good football player neither
i like many young dudes from the streets chose the streets. I was very violent so i enjoyed boxing much more but eventually even that fell back side and it showed in my competitions where i couldn't defend south paws body shots among other things. But I'm nice with the hands I'll tell u that shit n training in the gym for movies don't mean u could actually fight but I don't know him personally so i can't say if he can or not
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Like i said, you have no perspective.
You'll never be where those guys are, you can't fathom the process or the rules. You dont even know what you were seeing.
You dont have the ability to understand, so you compare it to situations common to you.
That's cool
My perception is just fine and I have no desire to unnecessarily disrespect or allow myself to be disrespected for money especially if I'm already doing more than well in life. The example I gave was of people who I'd understand making the decision to not do anything. I can respect someone who needs to provide for their family sacrificing their ideals to an extent. That person actually has something to lose. Even then that person could still ask the person who assaulted them to be fired.Chris doesn't fall into that category even slightly.
You still haven't answered the question. You'll allow another person to physically disrespect you and potentially put yourself at risk for money? Is that who you are as a person? Its too much to have the person who assaulted you removed from the building because in your mind it's a good look for your already successful career? Do you really think either person will be impacted positively or negatively long term?
bruh, i used to fight for money.
so yes, i got physically disrespected and put at risk for money, if you want to call it that.
your respect cant be taken from getting hit, thats thinking like a child.
respect is earned and given after you consider all aspects of the fight.
like i keep saying, you lack perspective.
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