It seem counterproductive to watch some shit you dislike. So basically you like it you just like it for a different reason than others.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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It seem counterproductive to watch some shit you dislike. So basically you like it you just like it for a different reason than others.
Yeah I mean I don't know if we count Punk but i'd say him and Danielson for sure...they are exceptions to the rule though. The only reason to leave WWE for AEW is maybe for a easier and light schedule. But all these young wrestlers like Bianca, Sasha, etc.? It makes no sense for them to go. I think even with Danielson he was able to make that move because of the timing he dipped and him being a draw.
You can count Jericho since he went to NJPW instead of taking a WWE paycheck which led to his AEW run. Moxley (not a true main event name) turned down WWE money to work the indies. Mox didn't even know AEW was legit until Jericho told him. Can you count Hogan going to WCW?
I think you can count a lot of WWF guys going to WCW at the time Hogan did it. but I don't think WWF was what it is today. They were going to WCW and getting paid more and as a result i'd probably say they were more on equal ground than what AEW is today.
And yeah i'd agree on Jericho too. But he also goes back to that perfect timing deal. If Jericho was still in WWE and he left today for AEW...I don't think that deal is nearly as lucrative.
I like how you ignored the last two sentences!
Your parents have heard the NAME Bitcoin that is it. You're saying in order to be mainstream I have to be able to give some form of explanation of what it is. WWE=wrestling for me to have heard of it. Bitcoin is a virtual traded form of currency that is just off the top of my head don't know if I am right or wrong on that but I am close enough to know OF Bitcoin. So by your logic Bitcoin is not mainstream cause your parents can't give an explanation. It is possible your dad may have heard the name AEW, but never makes the connection that AEW=wrestling which means AEW is not mainstream. Therefore Bitcoin is not either.
I just think this shyt is relative the way media is consumed nowadays looking to ones parents as a deciding factor of mainstream or not is very convenient.
And that was the whole Howard Stern philosphy people writing in talking about they hate it but keep his numbers through the roof. I don't remember the last time I watched a Smackdown, and I LIKE the Roman Reigns storyline (I have only watched it through clips online) I stopped giving WWE my viewership when Kofi lost to Brock.
Bruh, I promise you my parents (and the majority of people in this country) have never heard of AEW in any form or fashion. That's fine though. They're a new company. Let's see if they're still around in 40 years. Hell, WWE as we know it may not be around in 40 years.
I'm fine being Gargamel....
Meanwhile @0utsyder @Mastermind2002 and @chrislee standing over there like....
What does this even mean?!?!? Like, is the smurf AEW and we are just blindly following being the two white cats?!? And I don't get how @EPDC is Gargamel?!?! A grumpy old man, sure. But Gargamel?!?! *kidding*
And I have no problem calling AEW out on their bullshyt as well. Yes I give them a longer leash than I give WWE, but WWE has been at this A LOT longer than AEW has. My gripe has always been how black/POC talent is treated and or exploited WWE has a history of this shyt. From Slick to KoKo B. Ware to the Booker T screwjob all the way up to Kofi getting his ass beat by Brock. The minute AEW is on some shyt like this, then they're getting written off just like WWE!
Most kats don't want to let go of what was, been watching since the 70s and have seen all the changes to this point. Big business own the TV channels now and some have strict rules while others will let the boundaries be pushed. Grand kids enjoyed the RR but we also were watching Bellator last night to. Thing I like best that we have more choices of Wrestling, MMA and Boxing basically something for everyone.
Give TK and AEW time, they'll be pulling the same shit. The Big Swole situation was just the beginning. But hey, at least the owner is BROWN
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Hogan. Hall and Nash left because they were getting guaranteed money. Vince thought that Macho Man was done in the ring so he bounced unless the thing with Stephanie was true.
WHY WWE TALENTS WERE SO DOWN AFTER THE RUMBLE PPV AND MORE NOTES
By Mike Johnson on 2022-01-30 18:00:00
If you were among those disenchanted with the WWE Royal Rumble PPV, you were not alone.
We've heard from a number of sources in the company who were frustrated with the constant changes in the Rumble matches over the course of the last week and felt that was a direct cause for the quality (or lack of) for the Rumble matches themselves. As we reported earlier, one source noted the Men's Rumble alone changed "20 times" over the course of the days leading to the Rumble matches between spots that were devised, changed and discarded, changes in eliminations, order of entrances and even interactions between talents. We have since heard that was the experience for the Women's Rumble match as well. All of the changes led to a frustrating day for talents with a lot of moving parts that kept shifting, so for some, it just turned into a confusing hodgepodge of things they needed to remember or dispose of mentally. It all came down from Vince McMahon as he had his fingers deep in every aspect of the PPV.
The morale after the show was very down compared to most recent WWE PPVs because as one talent (who commented under condition of anonymity) stated, "We were all in a whirlwind. Just as you had your role and spots down, everything started over and over and now most of us were back to square one. It changed again and again and again. It wasn't an easy night even before we hit the ring."
WWE President Nick Khan was at the Rumble, arriving to the building with Shane McMahon.
Ben LeDoux sent word in his live report from the Royal Rumble that the Wrestlemania sign was burning AGAIN after the pyro for Brock Lesnar's Rumble win.
A number of readers, including Tim Windhalm, noted that overhead spotlight that WWE used around the ring last night in St. Louis was blinding fans in the audience and there was a consistent “turn the light off” chant that keep popping up between Rumble entrants.
We've been asked if Johnny Knoxville's ring gear was a tribute to Andy Kaufman. I haven't heard that was the case, but I could certainly see the similarities.
Jillian Hall tweeted the following about her Royal Rumble experience:
Zelina Vega tweeted the following about her Rumble gear and theme music last night:
By Mike Johnson on 2022-01-30 18:00:00
If you were among those disenchanted with the WWE Royal Rumble PPV, you were not alone.
We've heard from a number of sources in the company who were frustrated with the constant changes in the Rumble matches over the course of the last week and felt that was a direct cause for the quality (or lack of) for the Rumble matches themselves. As we reported earlier, one source noted the Men's Rumble alone changed "20 times" over the course of the days leading to the Rumble matches between spots that were devised, changed and discarded, changes in eliminations, order of entrances and even interactions between talents. We have since heard that was the experience for the Women's Rumble match as well. All of the changes led to a frustrating day for talents with a lot of moving parts that kept shifting, so for some, it just turned into a confusing hodgepodge of things they needed to remember or dispose of mentally. It all came down from Vince McMahon as he had his fingers deep in every aspect of the PPV.
The morale after the show was very down compared to most recent WWE PPVs because as one talent (who commented under condition of anonymity) stated, "We were all in a whirlwind. Just as you had your role and spots down, everything started over and over and now most of us were back to square one. It changed again and again and again. It wasn't an easy night even before we hit the ring."
WWE President Nick Khan was at the Rumble, arriving to the building with Shane McMahon.
Ben LeDoux sent word in his live report from the Royal Rumble that the Wrestlemania sign was burning AGAIN after the pyro for Brock Lesnar's Rumble win.
A number of readers, including Tim Windhalm, noted that overhead spotlight that WWE used around the ring last night in St. Louis was blinding fans in the audience and there was a consistent “turn the light off” chant that keep popping up between Rumble entrants.
We've been asked if Johnny Knoxville's ring gear was a tribute to Andy Kaufman. I haven't heard that was the case, but I could certainly see the similarities.
Jillian Hall tweeted the following about her Royal Rumble experience:
Zelina Vega tweeted the following about her Rumble gear and theme music last night:
It's just funny how y'all be defending WWE and y'all don't even watch it for real.
Like even y'all who defend the shit know the shit is trash because it ain't even entertaining enough for y'all to even keep up with it.
Y'all was in here last night talking about "who the fat bitch? where that nigga been? Where the other nigga at? The German dude with the dress -- the one that was WWE champion for like a year? What's his name? Yeah, he gone win!" Questions that y'all would know the answers to if y'all followed the product.
But stay coming to the rescue every time they get called out for the bullshit because y'all are so gung ho on this VInce McMahon "WWE or nothing" attitude.
At least when I watch AEW, I enjoy it. I don't have to act like "oh my kids was watching it, so I watched it, too", or some other high side ass reason. At least I can feel like I watched this shit for me.
WWE just ain't fun to watch no more, so I stopped watching. I'll tune into a big PPV in hopes they'll do something new, or interesting, or redeeming for the rest of the meaningless programming they put on TV the rest of the year. But then they'll do some shit like this and it'll remind me exactly why I stopped watching it: repetitive and lazy writing and booking.
I discovered I could watch 3 hours of a good TV show instead of Monday Night Raw.
And it ain't like I want WWE to fail. Yeah, I want Vince and his cabinet of dickriders to go to the old folks home already, but it ain't like I want the company to crumble to shit.
I want to see their talent and producers shine, too, and make hella money, and have friendly competition but also be able to work with all the other companies, but it's Vince's cutthroat business tactics that keep all of that shit from happening. And I'm tired of defending it and complaining about it.
Like even y'all who defend the shit know the shit is trash because it ain't even entertaining enough for y'all to even keep up with it.
Y'all was in here last night talking about "who the fat bitch? where that nigga been? Where the other nigga at? The German dude with the dress -- the one that was WWE champion for like a year? What's his name? Yeah, he gone win!" Questions that y'all would know the answers to if y'all followed the product.
But stay coming to the rescue every time they get called out for the bullshit because y'all are so gung ho on this VInce McMahon "WWE or nothing" attitude.
At least when I watch AEW, I enjoy it. I don't have to act like "oh my kids was watching it, so I watched it, too", or some other high side ass reason. At least I can feel like I watched this shit for me.
WWE just ain't fun to watch no more, so I stopped watching. I'll tune into a big PPV in hopes they'll do something new, or interesting, or redeeming for the rest of the meaningless programming they put on TV the rest of the year. But then they'll do some shit like this and it'll remind me exactly why I stopped watching it: repetitive and lazy writing and booking.
I discovered I could watch 3 hours of a good TV show instead of Monday Night Raw.
And it ain't like I want WWE to fail. Yeah, I want Vince and his cabinet of dickriders to go to the old folks home already, but it ain't like I want the company to crumble to shit.
I want to see their talent and producers shine, too, and make hella money, and have friendly competition but also be able to work with all the other companies, but it's Vince's cutthroat business tactics that keep all of that shit from happening. And I'm tired of defending it and complaining about it.
I think she would garner more respect than that. Honestly feel she'd be the one to beat Jade because of her physical background. She lost her belt in 26 seconds and they've played her to the left since then.And do what? Go to AEW, get lost in the shuffle and have to do jobs to Jade Cargill?
WWE needs to have Sasha/Bianca team up and go after the tag titles. That way you can get them on both shows to boost ratings and exposure.
That was cool but I called it
Hahah xerox. Some of y’all showing ur age around here… I feel old af now…..
I can't believe how much hate the Rumble is getting this year.... wait wrestling smarts are never happy, so I guess I can believe it
But seriously, I was entertained this year. It was the best Rumble by far, but it also wasn't anywhere near the worst.
I think we could have done a few bits of fantasy booking changes, but I wouldn't even change the overall finishes.
But seriously, I was entertained this year. It was the best Rumble by far, but it also wasn't anywhere near the worst.
I think we could have done a few bits of fantasy booking changes, but I wouldn't even change the overall finishes.
- The Roman/Rollins match could have ended the same way, but just have Roman yelling, "laugh now, laugh now!" to further explain why he wouldn't let go of the hold. Seth has spend the last month (including this match) laughing in Roman's face. Roman should be pissed.
- Maybe Charlotte could have won the women's Rumble so that she could show up on Raw and challenge Becky, on some, "fuck the two titles situation, I'm the REAL champ" Then we can merge the belts (which they don't seem to want to do, but really should).
- But Ronda winning most definitely just sold a couple thousand Peacock subs so
I ain't mad at em'
- But Ronda winning most definitely just sold a couple thousand Peacock subs so
- They either need to retire the Kofi spot or pass it on to someone else. They have so many high flyers that anyone can take that spot. Rey & Dominik could have done something cool. And Ricochet was born to inherit that kind of high flyer/escape artist spot.
- Brock should have won, but he shouldn't have been the official #30 entrant. They should have done the Nia Jax thing, where Brock came outta nowhere and wrecked the real #30. Then he enter the Rumble on some fuck it I'm mad I got screw earlier so now I'm gonna destroy everyone now.
I'm not sure if those women tag title can be saved. When Rhea Ripley eliminated Zelina & Carmella and they mentioned that she threw both the champs out, I had honesty forgotten that they were the current champions.
Vince has never like tag team wrestling and women's tag team are probably not even on his radar. That division (male & female) won't be about shit until Vince is gone and HHH & Steph finally have full control.
My thoughts about the Royal Rumble..
- Bobby Lashley deserves the win, but I hate how he won. During his celebration, Lashley should have grab the microphone and cursed out Roman Reigns and told that punk he didn't ask nor needed his help. Tell that punk, Roman he'll get his ass smashed if he steps in Lashley's ring again. That would have bring the heat.
- I liked Mickie James performance in the Rumble. I don't think her being eliminated by Lita made her or the Knockout championship look weak. Everyone knows she wasn't going to win. However I think she could have eliminated 3 more chicks out of the ring. I can't wait to see Impact and see Tasha Steelz and Deonna Purrazzo clown her.
- Bobby Lashley deserves the win, but I hate how he won. During his celebration, Lashley should have grab the microphone and cursed out Roman Reigns and told that punk he didn't ask nor needed his help. Tell that punk, Roman he'll get his ass smashed if he steps in Lashley's ring again. That would have bring the heat.
- I liked Mickie James performance in the Rumble. I don't think her being eliminated by Lita made her or the Knockout championship look weak. Everyone knows she wasn't going to win. However I think she could have eliminated 3 more chicks out of the ring. I can't wait to see Impact and see Tasha Steelz and Deonna Purrazzo clown her.
Planned by who?
I would have to see Vince McMahon himself come out and publicly confirm this in order to believe that.
I havent been watching wrestling (WWE or AEW for awhile). I keep up based on this thread, a couple of websites and podcasts. Its telling I enjoy wrestling adjacent programming more than wrestling programming
With that said, a year ago I thought Riddle was a no brainer to win this year's rumble
The Rumble should be used to create new stars. I think Riddle checks alot of boxes. Charastmic, funny, a real life ass kicker, can go in the ring and it seems like they found the perfect Role with Randy to take the next step.
I typically root for underdog wrestlers & new faces and the biggest issue with WWE imo is that relay on the same 4-5 men/women. What happens when Brock finally puts em up or Roman gets hurt or Becky/Charlotte have a kid or Roman really goes Hollywood...who has next (or NXT). Real talk...its no one cause outside of Seth, Bianca & maybe Drew WWE has done a shitty job developing new main event talent. For all the issues with NXT callups a big part of the issue is that WWE called em without a plan and/shitting/inconsistent booking (Keith Lee, Teagan Nox, Cross, Balor, etc.)
that was the issue with the Royal Rumble it was predictable and the same old shit
no one left the match elevated or in a better place (other than Bad Bunny)
there were no big suprises
there werent enough woman on the main roster to fill 30 spots
It would of been one of the better storylines in recent years if they would of pulled this off
Very disappointed at this Royal Rumble. Rhonda looked like complete shit in the match. She doesn't even try actual wrestling moves. Shane O'Mac's punches looked better than hers. I just FF'd when Charlotte & Rhonda were the last 2. I didn't care who won.
Men's match wasn't great either. No excitement. It was pretty boring. Had no real story. Even though I didn't like the ending of the women's match, they at least had some stories. Could Banks run the table from the #1 spot? Can Bianca repeat? Can Charlotte win and choose her opponent? Can Lita win and challenge Charlotte? The only real story was could Big E win but he was eliminated in such a lackluster fashion. Brock just plowing thru guys wasn't interesting to watch
I'm glad Bobby won. I don't give a shit about whether it was clean or not.
I like how Roman won. They'll probably rematch in Saudi.
The weak rumble matches really soured the night for me.
Men's match wasn't great either. No excitement. It was pretty boring. Had no real story. Even though I didn't like the ending of the women's match, they at least had some stories. Could Banks run the table from the #1 spot? Can Bianca repeat? Can Charlotte win and choose her opponent? Can Lita win and challenge Charlotte? The only real story was could Big E win but he was eliminated in such a lackluster fashion. Brock just plowing thru guys wasn't interesting to watch
I'm glad Bobby won. I don't give a shit about whether it was clean or not.
I like how Roman won. They'll probably rematch in Saudi.
The weak rumble matches really soured the night for me.