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Hospital refusing heart transplant for man who won't get vaccinated
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Are smokers protected against SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19)? The origins of the myth | npj Primary Care Respiratory Medicine (nature.com)
The studies were not peer reviewed, or really even a topic of discussion by scientists. And several of the studies were actually funded by the tobacco industry (Smoking is still big in China) The link above goes into detail how shoddy the studies were, so it's not scientists keeping the truth from you, it's scientists ignoring it because it's pretty obvious most of the studies are bullshit.
The medical examiner makes the determination on if a death certificate should be revised, not the hospital. And even in cases where they aren't involved, you still have to prove it.
You are bring up the same old Trump talking points from two years ago, long debunked.
Some places will do liver transplants for people who haven't been sober for 6 months prior as is usually the case based on the idea that addiction is a disease and we are essentially punishing them for being sick. The problem when you try to apply this to the unvaccinated is that it means susceptibility to misinformation is also a disease which I don't agree with. This is the best article I've read on the issue and I agree with this doctor's take on it even if it is an unpopular view:
Udo Schuklenk, Ontario Research Chair in bioethics at Queens University and co-editor of the journal Bioethics, questions the argument that vaccine refusers are victims of misinformation.
"There's many people in my field who go on about equity considerations, and [how] these people don't know better and they have been misled," he said. "And my view is, they have made their autonomous choice.
"And if you're telling me that they are unable to make a sensible choice, then we should take this choice away from them. But we should not, on the one hand, give them this choice, and then not hold them accountable for it.
"The vast majority of people in my field of bioethics would disagree with me on what I just said. They'd say there's many people who don't know better and have been misled. And my point is, that may well be true, but then this should have a consequence on the kind of choices that these people are permitted to make."
Yes they do and the meds they have to take after surviving surgery,meds that they will have to take for life to keep the body from rejecting the organ that was transplanted.....The body be like" THIS ISN'T MY MOTHERFUCKING HEART,WHO'S HEART IS THIS?JAMES CASANOVA'S....NOW I'M A FUCKIN I-TALIAN, SPAGHETTI ALL IN MY DREAMS" lol
No that was a few months back. I guess I should have posted it. They said that this was the only time there was a benefit to smokingYou can't be serious! Link?
My response to HIS gullibility. I'm shocked that he would believe this shit and I wanted to see where it came from myself.
Smoking would be an underlying issue. That would make it easier for a respiratory illness to set in.
Researchers find correlation between smoking history and COVID-19 severity | NHLBI, NIH
In a research letter published in JAMA Internal Medicineexternal link, physicians from the Cleveland Clinic shared an analysis from a patient registry that found cigarette smoking correlated with a higher number of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths.
Out of 7,102 patients included in the review, 6,020 had never smoked, 910 were former smokers, and 172 smoke. The researchers concluded that cumulative smoking history, measured by pack years of smoking, may be a risk factor for severe COVID-19 outcomes. Compared to patients who had never smoked, patients who smoked the most – the equivalent of smoking a pack of cigarettes a day for more than 30 years – were twice as likely to be hospitalized for COVID-19. Heavy smokers also had a greater chance of dying from COVID-19, compared to patients without a smoking history. The study was funded by the NHLBI.
Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19 (webmd.com)
The FDA, for instance, issued an update on Tuesday that said smokers may be more vulnerable to respiratory illnesses such as COVID-19.
“There's never been a better time to quit smoking,” the FDA said.
Scientific paper claiming smokers less likely to acquire Covid retracted over tobacco industry links | Medical research | The Guardian
Scientific paper claiming smokers less likely to acquire Covid retracted over tobacco industry links
This article is more than 8 months old
Analysis of the paper identified several biases ‘which may give the false impression that smoking is protective in Covid-19’
Why this nigga missin a tooth and yellow lol
Guess the Tobacco industry saw a move and made it
A Boston hospital says it won't consider performing a heart transplant on a patient who refuses to get vaccinated against COVID-19, CBS Boston reports.
DJ Ferguson, 31, is fighting for his life at Brigham and Women's Hospital and in desperate need of a heart transplant.
His father, David Ferguson, is speaking out passionately on behalf of his son who, he told CBS Boston, "has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he's been pushed to the limit."
DJ's family says he was at the front of the line to receive a transplant but hospital policy stipulates that he's no longer eligible because he hasn't received the vaccination. And David Ferguson says his son simply won't.
"It's kind of against his basic principles — he doesn't believe in it," David Ferguson says. "It's a policy they are enforcing and so, because he won't get the shot, they took him off the list (for) a heart transplant."
Brigham and Women's released a statement saying, "Like many other transplant programs in the United States — the COVID-19 vaccine is one of several vaccines and lifestyle behaviors required for transplant candidates in the Mass General Brigham system in order to create both the best chance for a successful operation and also the patient's survival after transplantation."
Dr. Arthur Caplan, the head of medical ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, explains that being vaccinated is necessary for this type of procedure.
"Post any transplant, kidney, heart whatever, your immune system is shut off," Caplan said. "The flu could kill you, a cold could kill you, COVID could kill you. The organs are scarce, we are not going to distribute them to someone who has a poor chance of living when others who are vaccinated have a better chance post-surgery of surviving."
DJ is a father of two children with a third child on the way. His family says they're not sure what they plan to do. They're thinking about transferring him, but he may be too weak to be moved.
"We are aggressively pursuing all options, but we are running out of time," David Ferguson said.
And while the family says DJ has received great care from doctors and nurses at Brigham and Women's, they just don't agree with the heart transplant COVID vaccination policy.
"I think my boy is fighting pretty damn courageously and he has integrity and principles he really believes in and that makes me respect him all the more," David Ferguson said.
Which is why the family is sticking by his side and hoping for the best. "It's his body. It's his choice," Ferguson added.
Man Can't Get Heart Transplant Because He's Not Vaccinated Against COVID
DJ Ferguson was set to receive a heart transplant, but because he is not vaccinated against COVID-19 he is no longer eligible, according to hospital policy.boston.cbslocal.com
You can't make this dumb shit up. He trusts the doctors/nurses/medicine/science enough to let them replace his heart but doesn't trust the vaccine they also recommend?
If this hospital is denying a patient life saving surgery based on his immunity status then this sets a bad precedence.
I was under the impression that hospitals and doctors were bound by the Hippocratic oath to preserve life.
The hospital could've gave him a covid test and if he's negative then they should isolate him in a sanitized, sterile room. On the day of surgery they should test him again 30 minutes before surgery and if he's negative for covid then they can procede. If he's positive then they would have to deny or abort the transplant surgery.
I was under the impression that hospitals and doctors were bound by the Hippocratic oath to preserve life.
The hospital could've gave him a covid test and if he's negative then they should isolate him in a sanitized, sterile room. On the day of surgery they should test him again 30 minutes before surgery and if he's negative for covid then they can procede. If he's positive then they would have to deny or abort the transplant surgery.
They're trying to preserve the life of the next in line who HAS taken the precautions necessary. Dude played Roulette and lost.
Would you give a crackhead a new heart? What about a lung to a smoker? Or liver to a iv drug user?
Why waste an organ on someone that's going to throw it away?
If there was a surplus of human organs available at the time I certainly would.
Just because someone has a substance abuse problem doesn't always mean that they are the scum of the earth. It doesn't mean that they should be undeserving of basic human rights and dignities.
Father denied heart transplant because he won’t get Covid vaccine
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https://news.yahoo.com/father-denied-heart-transplant-because-143032655.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brigha...ing-heart-transplant-man-wont-get-vaccinated/
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/heart-transplant-covid-vaccine-dad-b2001121.html
when MAGA goes wrong !
www.independent.co.uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-covid-vaccine-dad-b2001121.html?jwsource=cl
A young father is being denied a heart transplant because he won’t get vaccinated against Covid-19.
The 31-year-old’s father David Ferguson told CBS Boston that his son DJ is fighting to stay alive at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.
“My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,” Mr Ferguson told the TV station.
DJ’s family say that he was at the front of the line to receive a heart but that according to hospital policy, he’s not eligible because he’s not been vaccinated.
Mr Ferguson said getting vaccinated is against his son’s “basic principles” and that “he doesn’t believe in it”.
“It’s a policy they are enforcing and so because he won’t get the shot, they took him off the list of a heart transplant,” he said.
The hospital said in a statement that “like many other transplant programs in the United States – the Covid-19 vaccine is one of several vaccines and lifestyle behaviors required for transplant candidates in the Mass General Brigham system in order to create both the best chance for a successful operation and also the patient’s survival after transplantation”.
The Head of Medical Ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, Dr Arthur Caplan, told CBS Boston that the vaccine is necessary because after any kind of transplant, “your immune system is shut off”.
“The flu could kill you, a cold could kill you, Covid could kill you. The organs are scarce, we are not going to distribute them to someone who has a poor chance of living when others who are vaccinated have a better chance post-surgery of surviving,” Dr Caplan said.
DJ has two children and a third is coming, with the family saying they’re unsure how they’re going to proceed. They’re considering having him transferred, but he may not be strong enough for the move.
“We are aggressively pursuing all options, but we are running out of time,” Mr Ferguson said.
The family has said that DJ has been given great care at the hospital but that they don’t agree with the vaccination policy.
“I think my boy is fighting pretty damn courageously and he has integrity and principles he really believes in and that makes me respect him all the more,” Mr Ferguson added.
“It’s his body. It’s his choice,” he said.
Father denied heart transplant because he won’t get Covid vaccine
‘My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,’ father says
https://news.yahoo.com/father-denied-heart-transplant-because-143032655.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/heart-transplant-covid-vaccine-dad-b2001121.html
when MAGA goes wrong !
Father denied heart transplant because he won’t get Covid vaccine
‘My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,’ father says
www.independent.co.uk
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-covid-vaccine-dad-b2001121.html?jwsource=cl
A young father is being denied a heart transplant because he won’t get vaccinated against Covid-19.
The 31-year-old’s father David Ferguson told CBS Boston that his son DJ is fighting to stay alive at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.
“My son has gone to the edge of death to stick to his guns and he’s been pushed to the limit,” Mr Ferguson told the TV station.
DJ’s family say that he was at the front of the line to receive a heart but that according to hospital policy, he’s not eligible because he’s not been vaccinated.
Mr Ferguson said getting vaccinated is against his son’s “basic principles” and that “he doesn’t believe in it”.
“It’s a policy they are enforcing and so because he won’t get the shot, they took him off the list of a heart transplant,” he said.
The hospital said in a statement that “like many other transplant programs in the United States – the Covid-19 vaccine is one of several vaccines and lifestyle behaviors required for transplant candidates in the Mass General Brigham system in order to create both the best chance for a successful operation and also the patient’s survival after transplantation”.
The Head of Medical Ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, Dr Arthur Caplan, told CBS Boston that the vaccine is necessary because after any kind of transplant, “your immune system is shut off”.
“The flu could kill you, a cold could kill you, Covid could kill you. The organs are scarce, we are not going to distribute them to someone who has a poor chance of living when others who are vaccinated have a better chance post-surgery of surviving,” Dr Caplan said.
DJ has two children and a third is coming, with the family saying they’re unsure how they’re going to proceed. They’re considering having him transferred, but he may not be strong enough for the move.
“We are aggressively pursuing all options, but we are running out of time,” Mr Ferguson said.
The family has said that DJ has been given great care at the hospital but that they don’t agree with the vaccination policy.
“I think my boy is fighting pretty damn courageously and he has integrity and principles he really believes in and that makes me respect him all the more,” Mr Ferguson added.
“It’s his body. It’s his choice,” he said.
oh shit i didnt see the post, u got link ?
Hospital refusing heart transplant for man who won't get vaccinated
A Boston hospital says it won't consider performing a heart transplant on a patient who refuses to get vaccinated against COVID-19, CBS Boston reports. DJ Ferguson, 31, is fighting for his life at Brigham and Women's Hospital and in desperate need of a heart transplant. His father, David...
www.bgol.us
this is a rightwing misinformation twitter page ... all the bs about hospitals getting paid to misdiagnose for covid etc he spewed has been thoroughly debunked .. this is 2022 we've been over this already
same page
Biden’s Bounty on Your Life: Hospitals’ Incentive Payments for COVID-19
By Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D. and Ali Shultz, J.D. – Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protoco…
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u posted an article from
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The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a politically conservative non-profit association that promotes medical misinformation, such as HIV/AIDS denialism, the abortion-breast cancer hypothesis, vaccine and autism connections, and homosexuality reducing life expectancy. The association was founded in 1943 to oppose a government attempt to nationalize health care. The group has included notable members, including American Republican
why do u insist on posting bs disinformation from rightwing kkk neonazi aligning sites ?
Biden’s Bounty on Your Life: Hospitals’ Incentive Payments for COVID-19
By Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D. and Ali Shultz, J.D. – Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protoco…
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| Founded | 1943 |
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| Type | Political advocacy group |
| Tax ID no. | 36-2059197 |
| Legal status | 501(c)(6) |
| Focus | Opposition to abortion, Medicare and Medicaid, universal health care, and government involvement in health care |
| Headquarters | Tucson, Arizona, United States |
| Membership | ~5,000[1] |
| President | Paul Martin Kempin |
| Executive director | Jane M. Orient |
| Revenue (2019) | $642,740[2] |
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why do u insist on posting bs disinformation from rightwing kkk neonazi aligning sites ?
Ima start posting the video
and not the twitter page
u like a fucking child who can’t pay attention and gatta ask questions.
listen and learn, then form a opinion.
do not automatically not listen to because it came from this or that.
shit Be irritating as fuck dawg
can’t even have a simple conversation without u “acting” out.
and not the twitter page
u like a fucking child who can’t pay attention and gatta ask questions.
listen and learn, then form a opinion.
do not automatically not listen to because it came from this or that.
shit Be irritating as fuck dawg
can’t even have a simple conversation without u “acting” out.
U one of those who don't question the source of information becos it confirms yr bias ?
U posted a video about a very publicly verifiably antivax rightwing talking point (for profit covid diagnoses)and ure mad I exposed it?
U posted a
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