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Tom got tired of being a beta male. Didn't see that coming at all even with the Greg/Tom conversation.
Yup. Man when Tom told Greg, “who in this fucking family has ever looked out for you ..” he wasn’t talking to Greg but talking about himself. Just like Shiv did with that pillowtalk. He meant every bit of that shit and used that fuel to stab his wife in the back.

Mans had it in him all along.
 
Yup. Man when Tom told Greg, “who in this fucking family has ever looked out for you ..” he wasn’t talking to Greg but talking about himself. Just like Shiv did with that pillowtalk. He meant every bit of that shit and used that fuel to stab his wife in the back.

Mans had it in him all along.

"I don't love you, but I do love you."

Nail in the coffin right there.
 
Tom got tired of being a beta male. Didn't see that coming at all even with the Greg/Tom conversation.
Yup. Man when Tom told Greg, “who in this fucking family has ever looked out for you ..” he wasn’t talking to Greg but talking about himself. Just like Shiv did with that pillowtalk. He meant every bit of that shit and used that fuel to stab his wife in the back.

Mans had it in him all along.
"I don't love you, but I do love you."

Nail in the coffin right there.


You could see it coming this whole season.

Shiv got way too comfortable and was feeling herself since she believed that she was the only sibling left for her father to choose and didn't see Roman as a threat.

That same attitude leaked into her marriage and treatment of Tom who she never respected but sort of cared for.

However, being drunk with the power she thought she had made her overplay her hand with Tom who she thought would never have the balls to do what he did.

But telling him on multiple occasions last episode she doesn't love him is what really pushed him over the edge.
 
I don't see how you talk to anyone in that room again?
The whole "it's just business" thing is a tired excuse

Tom you can forget about a baby my guy you won't even be having sex with Shiv ever again

She was never going to have his child and was barely fucking him.

He had nothing to lose.

This move actually gives him more power in his relationship and career.

She'll have to respect him more moving forward, she'll have no choice.

I think next season we'll see her treating Tom totally different next year in an effort to disarm him and regain the upper hand in their marriage.
 
She was never going to have his child and was barely fucking him.

He had nothing to lose.

This move actually gives him more power in his relationship and career.

She'll have to respect him more moving forward, she'll have no choice.

I think next season we'll see her treating Tom totally different next year in an effort to disarm him and regain the upper hand in their marriage.

In a boring world yes

In an interesting world and season she cuts him off and goes for his head in killing him
 
She was never going to have his child and was barely fucking him.

He had nothing to lose.

This move actually gives him more power in his relationship and career.

She'll have to respect him more moving forward, she'll have no choice.

I think next season we'll see her treating Tom totally different next year in an effort to disarm him and regain the upper hand in their marriage.
Next season Tom will be getting breakfast in bed and daily blow jobs.
 
In a boring world yes

In an interesting world and season she cuts him off and goes for his head in killing him

Nah she can't afford to cut him off, he's in a better position with her father and in business than she is at this point.

She's going to get payback against him that's inevitable but she'll have to play the good, loving wife in order to put herself in a position to do it.

Next year we'll see her having to deal with shit she's never had to before which will definitely make for interesting and unpredictable television.
 
Nah she can't afford to cut him off, he's in a better position with her father and in business than she is at this point.

She's going to get payback against him that's inevitable but she'll have to play the good, loving wife in order to put herself in a position to do it.

Next year we'll see her having to deal with shit she's never had to before which will definitely make for interesting and unpredictable television.


I like the scorched earth approach better. I want them to align and just wreck the shit out of all of it.

Why on earth would they talk to their "mother" again?
like that's the last time you see her if it was me
 
When you say certain hurtful things to people even family it stays in their hearts and it comes into play later on.
All about power with this "family" a little love seeps in at times but power always comes before everything
 
I like the scorched earth approach better. I want them to align and just wreck the shit out of all of it.

Why on earth would they talk to their "mother" again?
like that's the last time you see her if it was me
Tom was always a sociopath bitch ass... Shiv now understands the danger of bringing home stray dogs and making pets of them

Roman is useless
Shiv doesn't understand / know the business
They better nurse Ken to health on a wagon or at least stability...

Shiv should have been picking Ken brain since the board vote

"... this is who I am... I win!"

none of the kids are built for this
 
Tom was always a sociopath bitch ass... Shiv now understands the danger of bringing home stray dogs and making pets of them

Roman is useless
Shiv doesn't understand / know the business
They better nurse Ken to health on a wagon or at least stability...

Shiv should have been picking Ken brain since the board vote

"... this is who I am... I win!"

none of the kids are built for this

I actually think Ken is built for it. I just think he hasn't turned the corner of I am my father.

He's caught up in protecting them
And Logan doesn't have that handicap

Shiv is so out of her depth it's hilarious lol
Like she's incompetent
Tom wow I think jail is the turning point he was willing to go to the slammer and everyone was like yup

I still hate him but they had it coming
 
Tom wow I think jail is the turning point he was willing to go to the slammer and everyone was like yup
Tom was always transactional - but had no leverage
so his manipulation attempts always fell on deaf ears
his bullying Greg (window on how he treats those with less power than himself -or when not useful)

the jail play was just another manipulation attempt with lackluster response in Tom's eyes
 
Tom was always transactional - but had no leverage
so his manipulation attempts always fell on deaf ears
his bullying Greg (window on how he treats those with less power than himself -or when not useful)

the jail play was just another manipulation attempt with lackluster response in Tom's eyes

Definitely a huge weasel
But he's found his play and went for it

Now the cold war begins
 
Tom is not blood but he is in the inner circle, notice Tom is always included in the big meetings? If he plays his cards right I see no reason for Logan not to make him boss.

Tom is doing this so he can be boss
They laughed at him whenever he asked about his position
His wife was like oh yea sure you'll have a spot but cared about her position they aren't a team

So yea he secured his spot
He's going to be CEO probably inserted by Asgard or whatever his name is on this show
 
Tom is doing this so he can be boss
They laughed at him whenever he asked about his position
His wife was like oh yea sure you'll have a spot but cared about her position they aren't a team

So yea he secured his spot
He's going to be CEO probably inserted by Asgard or whatever his name is on this show
Nah asssskared or whatever his name is wants to be CEO
 
Nah asssskared or whatever his name is wants to be CEO
Not really
He just wants the control
He specifically talked about not being the man so everyone won't be against him for controlling so much

He just wasn't gonna guarantee one of the kids was going to be CEO

Now tom isn't one of his kids and can slide in
And now they're in the cold so he can setup the board to favor Logan only and not worry about the kids
 
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