Barbados to remove Queen Elizabeth as head of state
The government of Barbados says the time has come to leave the colonial past behind.
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Barbados To Remove Queen Elizabeth As Head Of State... Will Be A Republic....
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& will cut ties from British Monarchy.
Big up to our Bajan brothers and sisters
btw...
Big up to our Bajan brothers and sisters
btw...
World's Newest Republic, Barbados To Cut Ties With Queen Elizabeth
Barbados is about to cut ties with the British monarchy, but the legacy of a sometimes brutal colonial past and the pandemic's impact on tourism pose major challenges for the Caribbean island as it becomes the world's newest republic.
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Congrats to them.
It's more of a psychological thing than something that will make big waves over there, because in today's world countries are not the big enemies its the banks and the independent financiers who are the ones are calling the shots. Even in places like Russia and China they still have to work within international and economic regulations set forth by the world governing and economic institutions. For example, if China said fuck what you guys say, and made it legal to dump radioactive barrels in the ocean or sell endangered animals in fast food markets, they will be punished by the world governing bodies, so to an extent, no one is truly 100% sovereign.
But in the end, Jamacia doesn't pay England any more than Puerto Rico pays the U.S. yet they have or at least had the ability to travel to England without a passport.
So at the end of the day, there are pros and cons from both sides, and at the end of the day being free should be free to choose what is best for them.
But in the end, Jamacia doesn't pay England any more than Puerto Rico pays the U.S. yet they have or at least had the ability to travel to England without a passport.
So at the end of the day, there are pros and cons from both sides, and at the end of the day being free should be free to choose what is best for them.
Does not matter most of the Caribbean is ran by another colonizer. Which is China. These countries are boring money from China and then when. They can’t pay they will take over airports and land just like they are doing in Africa.
Who had the ability to travel to England without a passport?
& will cut ties from British Monarchy.
Big up to our Bajan brothers and sisters
btw...
Mia Mottley, the Prime Minister Of Barbados perfectly answers the question as to why it's highly important the country becomes a republic.
I know Jamaicans told me they could or either it was easier than traveling to the U.S. but I had a discussion with a reggae musician years back and he explain the benefits of still being under England and I could have sworn he mentioned something like that.
I usually fact-check before I type but it's late and I am freestyling shit now. But correct me if I'm wrong I am open to learning.
The benefit was you didn't need a visa.
I do not know about not needing a passport.
Visa requirement is relatively new.
EDIT: Maybe pre 1962 they never needed a passport but I never hear anyone say that
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I will look into it as soon as I get some sleep.
I was going to say, there had to be a reason why. The English couldn't be treating them that poorly for them to not opt for their independence. If you're going to declare your independence you better have your ducks in a row. As for Barbados I hope This move works for them, its an incredible risk.
Barbados is already an independent country and has been for over 50 years. What they are seeking to do now is to remove the Queen as 'head of state' which is only symbolic and has no value to the country whatsoever.... They will still be a part of the commonwealth nations so will still gain the benefits of being included.
You island niggas be ran by a bitch this whole time
crazy as hell
that white bitch don’t come to my island
@mangobob79 I know u a Cubano bro
crazy as hell
that white bitch don’t come to my island
@mangobob79 I know u a Cubano bro
What do you know of Bermuda?
The "Black" party told it's members to not vote in the referendum because to vote yes at that time would have cemented 380 years of white dominance by the "White" party and its negroes. The Black man who was leading the "White" party called the referendum. They promised its supporters that if they did not vote in the referendum and voted them in to power for the first time in the next election, they would take Bermuda to politial independence.
And for the record, The Black Beret Cadre, an armed Black Nationalist group affiliated with the Black Panther Party for Self Defense in the United States, shot and killed the British Governor and the British Police Commissioner. And when the Black men who were convicted of the crimes were hanged, there was three days of rioting.
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does the queen knows that she has a say in barbados ? she's kinda old.
I will look into it as soon as I get some sleep.
British law means that if you are born in a colony, you are fully British. George Washington was born in British North America. He forught for Britain until he didn't. Britain appoints the Governor from out of former British politicians and generals and diplomats. Starting with Australia, Canada, South Africa and New Zealand, countries became politically independent, remaining constitutional monarchies. In other words, Lizzy is queen of 16 different countries, like Australia, Canada, sJamaica, and Barbados. Most of the members of the Commonwealth are republics - they took the further step of removing the monarchy. Hong Kong returned to Chinese rule. There are about ten to 15 colonies remaining.
You will have heard of "The Windrush Generation" in Britain. The Windrush was a ship sent to the Caribbean, Central America (Belize), South America (British Guiana) and the North West North Atlantic (Bermuda) for volunteers to move to Britain to work in teh wake of the World War. The didn't even need passports (which became a problem a few years ago). If you are British - you get on a plane and get in the British Nationals line. If you are from a British Commonwealth country - even if it retains the monarchy - you go in the foreigner line. Literally overnight when a country goes independent. In the 1980s and 1990s, The British changed their laws creating three tiers of British Citizenship to screw over the Hong Kongers. When in 1980, Beijing called in the British ambassador and showed him the document that his predecessor signed leasing Hong Kong for 150 years and that 150 years was over in 1997, it was still the height of the Cold War and China's economic boom had not started. By 1990, Hong Kongers were not afraid of being under Beijing. The fear of 6 million Hong Kongers arriving at Heathrow - because they did not want to be under the Communists - meant that the remaining colonies could not just hop on a plane or boat and get to London and get a job (or the dole) the next day.
After 1997 they changed the law back. So single mothers like my cousins get the money up for a BA flight and are given an apartment and a car and training and get jobs. When the volcano in Montserrat closed off 2/3 of the island, the British Cabinet member for the Foreign and Commonwealth office lost her job and all credibility when she ignored the Montserratian requiest for help. The Montserratian premier went on the BBC and appealed directly to the queen to intervene. Tony Blair got called to Buckingham Palace the next day and was reminded that Montserrat is soverign British territory and its people are members of her realm and are to be taken care of.
What I know is that roughly 75 percent of the citizenry voted to NOT to be independent from British control. If you're maintaining there was some underlying justification for that position then I'm unaware of it. They voted on a very simple question .... Are you in favor of your own independence? This much is fact. Any explanation still doesn't alter the base fact. And that's all I reported and what I reported was factual. Was it not?
On the surface, it is a simple question, but for six months it was explained to the people what a vote for independence at that time would mean for Black people. Black people are around 60 percent of the country. The "Black" party, the PLP saw the referendum as a cynical move by the conservative UBP to cement its rule and dominance of Whites over the country. The referendum failed with 73.7 percent voting against, with a turnout of 58 percent - normal turnout for an election is 60 to 70 percent.
So "75 percent of the citizenry voted to not to be independent" is not quite correct. It's 75 percent of those who chose to participate.
Oh, and by the way, Bermuda conducts its own affairs.
If you say, but in ANY election in any country, state or city, the only votes counted are the votes of those people who cast a ballot. If you run for mayor and get 50 thousand votes, your opponent that got 40 thousand votes does not get to argue that 20 thousand people didn't show up and his research suggests that 90 percent of them would have voted for him had they showed up, so he declares himself the winner.
My comment was more anecdotal, since the subject was not concerning Bermuda in any respect. I will, however, mentally note that there may have been extenuating circumstances that forced some or many to vote outside their conscience. Sleep well. Thank you for your intellect and civility. Both seem to be lacking much of the time around these parts!
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In the interests of truth, the supporters of the "Black" party did turn out three years later to win the next election and it has been in charge since, except for four years. It has not moved the country closer to independence, but did make a promise in 2020 to look at the issue closer. Since 1998 it has done things that has made Britain angry, but they have not clamped down on anything. When the Obama Administration got Bermuda to take four Uighurs from Guantanamo Bay without British approval, the British governor looked like he was going to cry. London can't do a damn thing about it, either.
Peace.
I live in Cayo Belize, though I'm in the US at the moment for medical treatment. I'm a US retiree expat. I'm not 100% sure of the relationship at present between Belize and the UK but I do know the UK supplies the Belize army and oft times British choppers and jets can be seen over Belizean skies doing war games and training. I'm no fan of the UK. My wife was born there, and I love the food there, generally, but I had a mark placed in my passport that subjects me to enhanced scrutiny when I arrive at their immigration desk. My first visit I answered some questions honestly that I should have lied about. Who knew? The wife and I were prepping for our expat lives so when they asked about my existence in the US I mentioned that I had sold my house and belongings for an international relocation. But they somehow assumed my plan was to hideaway in the UK, and they tossed me in jail for several hours. Jail was admittedly nice as hell though. I had a bunch of TV dinners, microwave, soda pops, chips (crisps) candy bars .... after 3 or 4 hours they had a change of heart and allowed me entrance but announced my passport would be marked for enhanced scrutiny at each future arrival. The second time I went to the UK I got the "treatment" again, minus the jail, so then and there I declared, no mas! MY SOUVENEIR ..........
Belize is an independent country, with the British Monarch's choice of a local person as head of state. In other words, it is no longer a colony like Bermuda and Cayman or the US before 1783.I live in Cayo Belize, though I'm in the US at the moment for medical treatment. I'm a US retiree expat. I'm not 100% sure of the relationship at present between Belize and the UK but I do know the UK supplies the Belize army and oft times British choppers and jets can be seen over Belizean skies doing war games and training. I'm no fan of the UK. My wife was born there, and I love the food there, generally, but I had a mark placed in my passport that subjects me to enhanced scrutiny when I arrive at their immigration desk. My first visit I answered some questions honestly that I should have lied about. Who knew? The wife and I were prepping for our expat lives so when they asked about my existence in the US I mentioned that I had sold my house and belongings for an international relocation. But they somehow assumed my plan was to hideaway in the UK, and they tossed me in jail for several hours. Jail was admittedly nice as hell though. I had a bunch of TV dinners, microwave, soda pops, chips (crisps) candy bars .... after 3 or 4 hours they had a change of heart and allowed me entrance but announced my passport would be marked for enhanced scrutiny at each future arrival. The second time I went to the UK I got the "treatment" again, minus the jail, so then and there I declared, no mas! MY SOUVENEIR ..........
The British Army is still there because the Belizean Army would not be able to hold of the Hondurans. It's a double deal: Belize gets protection, and the Brits get a jungle training base.
That detention order can be challenged in court. Telling them that you were migrating without telling them where (if you didn't tell them) threw up the red flag for an asshole inspector.
I think the biggest threat was Guatemala. Guatemala claims that roughly half the land that is now Belize is actually and rightfully part of Guatemala. They're probably right. Countries don't typically just make up shit like that. The 2 countries almost came to blows about it a few years back. Guatemala's claim is that originally England seized the land and attached it to Belize when Belize got whatever level of independence they truly have. Thus cutting off Guatemala's sea and shipping access. I'm pretty sure in a one on one, Guatemala's army would mop the floor with Belize. Guatemala has more soldiers than Belize has citizens! But, the international peace keepers got involved and set up elections the year before last in Belize which the citizenry ratified. It is now agreed that all involved parties will accept the ruling of the World Count in this matter and effectively quash the dispute. You know how that's gonna work. The UK will see to it that Belize wins the judgement. Guatemala has no influential friends. I'm glad cause I own a small fruit farm in Belize that sits directly in the disputed territory. I don't want a farm in Guatemala!
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You are absolutely right. It's Guatemala. I get thrown off by "British Honduras". I don't want to get into being "pro-British" or English, but Englishmen have been on that coast since the 1620s, right?
British Honduras was named in the 1700's. I do believe the Conquistadors arrived there first, but not certain, but Belize never became an official colony of Spain or Portugal. England was a sort of also ran and Johnny-come-lately in South and Central America. Hence, nobody in either South or Central America speaks English EXCEPT Belize. There were some skirmishes between England and Spain over who had rights in the area. Too bad they didn't just mutually kill each other off. Either way it was England who killed off the native Mayans with their inherent murderous tendencies and filthy diseases.
There was clearly an Olmec presence in the area as well. I'm convinced these Olmecs arrived there from Mali a hundred years prior to Cortes and the Conquistadors but no cac historian will EVER concede that no matter what amount of supporting evidence is presented. I used to sit in on the broadcast lectures by Egyptologist, Dr. Charles S. Finch III. His material is painted all over YouTube. He maintained in his lectures that there existed even more evidence that the Olmecs were from Mali. One of the things he pointed out was that in Egypt, Mali and Sudan, all part of the early Egyptian Nubian Empire you can easily see a learning progression in the architecture and building skill involved in the construction of the pyramids. You'll visually see how the earliest pyramids in Mali and Sudan improved in quality as time passed. Conversely, in Central America, no such learning curve exists! The builders were, in essence, of the same skill level for ALL existing discovered pyramids, suggesting their skills were acquired elsewhere and transported to Central America. And, of course, the Olmec heads paint a clear, almost impossible to refute story as well, do they not? There is all kinds of artifactual evidence supporting the notion, but as you know, only the victor gets to tell the tale.
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Congrats
Not all Barbadians are happy ditching Queen Elizabeth, says royal expert
Barbados is about to cut ties with the British monarchy, but the legacy of a sometimes brutal colonial past and the pandemic's impact on tourism pose major challenges for the Caribbean island as it becomes the world's newest republic.
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I know this might be off topic but Queen Elizabeth was very attractive in her younger days I can tell her tits were nice I would have smashed.
Visa policy is not determined by the English royal family. That is determined by
the foreign office of the English government. The only reason why the likes of
Barbados may still have visa-free access to the UK is that their tiny populations
would never supply the numbers of immigrants that the racist English could
be concerned about. Otherwise the English can impose visa-requirements even
as their queen remains the head of Barbados
formidable and impressive lady! RAW, as you all say!
Actually, they're quite brainwashed. Proud of being part of the British commonwealth, however fewer blacks in the States embrace African heritage.
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