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New Dave Chappelle Special” The Closer” October 5th

dik cashmere said:
They really try to make it something it’s not

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For Dave Chappelle, punchlines are dares. His new special, 'The Closer,' goes too far

In his new Netflix special, Dave Chappelle tries — and often fails — to justify button-pushing jokes about gay people, transgender people and feminists.
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Of courrrrrrrse the writer of that article would:

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Amajorfucup said:
You should probably watch the set again. Large theme was hypocrisy and double standards of alphabet mafia and trans community as it pertains to fight for so-called equality. Im sure he purposely left some ambiguity there but its clear who he really meant by his "tribe".



Also no coincidence he used his last contractual obligation to shit on dam near everybody while daring them to do something about it.


The District.
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I did watch the set:

Chapelle on that trans comedian:


“I don’t know what the trans community did for her,” Chappelle said, “but I don’t care, because I feel like she wasn’t their tribe. She was mine. She was a comedian in her soul.”
 
snark9 said:
I did watch the set:

Chapelle on that trans comedian:


“I don’t know what the trans community did for her,” Chappelle said, “but I don’t care, because I feel like she wasn’t their tribe. She was mine. She was a comedian in her soul.”
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Which is why i said, " Im sure he purposely left some ambiguity there but its clear who he really meant by his "tribe".

That was yet another shot at the trans community's grandstanding and hypocrisy. His subtle point there was that not only did they contribute to her suicide, but they (apparently) didnt do shit for her or child post death. You cant deduce over a hour of themed material to a closing one liner stated for effect. The protruding theme throughout was pretty clearly about perspective and objective disparities from a racial purview.
 
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OK I just watched it @dik cashmere

I gotta watch it again cause I was out in the park watching with headphones.

but I can say this

that man is a comedic genius

PERIOD

this is NOT his best work

but he is such a master

he can make even unrefined thoughts and observances very funny

He is just so damn SMART

that doesn't mean he is infallible

and I think to me?

that is what this is about.

He starts off taking shotgun blasts at groups that historically and currently?

you CANNOT touch

and a hugely controversial topic

Jews and Asians and Catholic Church

and Covid & the vaccine

(notice THOSE groups are NOT up in arms? Dave KNOWS what he doing)

he DELIBERATELY kept using the n word to make a point

He CHALLENGED people's so called sensitivity and morality

and hypocrisy

the trans-phobic bathroom joke

was a flip that had the audience tearing an ACL

sidebar...

that audience was a little SLOW I will just leave that there

Someone mentioned it was just stories...

that is ALL Dave great work is hell damn near all the GOAT comedians its STORIES

Its his command of the stage with such LIMITED movement

Its all nods, head movement eyes voices posture and hands he using to tell those jokes

And it was ALL CONNECTED

This WAS a peace offering...

but not a disingenuous publicist written I'm sorry if you were offended fake sh*t

this was crass real brutal self examination critical talk

the talk people SHOULD have but most times DO NOT.

They cannot be so defensive and sensitive and DEMAND to be treated DIFFERENTLY

but treated just like everyone else.

(the one they or many theys joke? was genius and many of the world play with pronouns the audience SLEPT on)

Listen I can't tell the LGBTQ community HOW to feel how to protest etc

but I can say if there current course of action is effective...

Yeah it is

but now you creating enemies where you had allies.

Dave did go EXTRA and I completely understand that someone from that community did NOT hear what I heard

thats OK but still a little disappointing

Cause he was speaking pure comedian

maybe the LGBTQ community should see that documentary the Aristocrats (might help)

In closing I really do hope Davee stops with this "crusade"

cause its not gonna be FUNNY anymore.

Even for a genius like him.
 
playahaitian said:
OK I just watched it @dik cashmere

I gotta watch it again cause I was out in the park watching with headphones.

but I can say this

that man is a comedic genius

PERIOD

this is NOT his best work

but he is such a master

he can make even unrefined thoughts and observances very funny

He is just so damn SMART

that doesn't mean he is infallible

and I think to me?

that is what this is about.

He starts off taking shotgun blasts at groups that historically and currently?

you CANNOT touch

and a hugely controversial topic

Jews and Asians and Catholic Church

and Covid & the vaccine

(notice THOSE groups are NOT up in arms? Dave KNOWS what he doing)

he DELIBERATELY kept using the n word to make a point

He CHALLENGED people's so called sensitivity and morality

and hypocrisy

the trans-phobic bathroom joke

was a flip that had the audience tearing an ACL

sidebar...

that audience was a little SLOW I will just leave that there

Someone mentioned it was just stories...

that is ALL Dave great work is hell damn near all the GOAT comedians its STORIES

Its his command of the stage with such LIMITED movement

Its all nods, head movement eyes voices posture and hands he using to tell those jokes

And it was ALL CONNECTED

This WAS a peace offering...

but not a disingenuous publicist written I'm sorry if you were offended fake sh*t

this was crass real brutal self examination critical talk

the talk people SHOULD have but most times DO NOT.

They cannot be so defensive and sensitive and DEMAND to be treated DIFFERENTLY

but treated just like everyone else.

(the one they or many theys joke? was genius and many of the world play with pronouns the audience SLEPT on)

Listen I can't tell the LGBTQ community HOW to feel how to protest etc

but I can say if there current course of action is effective...

Yeah it is

but now you creating enemies where you had allies.

Dave did go EXTRA and I completely understand that someone from that community did NOT hear what I heard

thats OK but still a little disappointing

Cause he was speaking pure comedian

maybe the LGBTQ community should see that documentary the Aristocrats (might help)

In closing I really do hope Davee stops with this "crusade"

cause its not gonna be FUNNY anymore.

Even for a genius like him.
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Cuz you can’t give this away for free. You know they lurk here
 
playahaitian said:
OK I just watched it @dik cashmere

I gotta watch it again cause I was out in the park watching with headphones.

but I can say this

that man is a comedic genius

PERIOD

this is NOT his best work

but he is such a master

he can make even unrefined thoughts and observances very funny

He is just so damn SMART

that doesn't mean he is infallible

and I think to me?

that is what this is about.

He starts off taking shotgun blasts at groups that historically and currently?

you CANNOT touch

and a hugely controversial topic

Jews and Asians and Catholic Church

and Covid & the vaccine

(notice THOSE groups are NOT up in arms? Dave KNOWS what he doing)

he DELIBERATELY kept using the n word to make a point

He CHALLENGED people's so called sensitivity and morality

and hypocrisy

the trans-phobic bathroom joke

was a flip that had the audience tearing an ACL

sidebar...

that audience was a little SLOW I will just leave that there

Someone mentioned it was just stories...

that is ALL Dave great work is hell damn near all the GOAT comedians its STORIES

Its his command of the stage with such LIMITED movement

Its all nods, head movement eyes voices posture and hands he using to tell those jokes

And it was ALL CONNECTED

This WAS a peace offering...

but not a disingenuous publicist written I'm sorry if you were offended fake sh*t

this was crass real brutal self examination critical talk

the talk people SHOULD have but most times DO NOT.

They cannot be so defensive and sensitive and DEMAND to be treated DIFFERENTLY

but treated just like everyone else.

(the one they or many theys joke? was genius and many of the world play with pronouns the audience SLEPT on)

Listen I can't tell the LGBTQ community HOW to feel how to protest etc

but I can say if there current course of action is effective...

Yeah it is

but now you creating enemies where you had allies.

Dave did go EXTRA and I completely understand that someone from that community did NOT hear what I heard

thats OK but still a little disappointing

Cause he was speaking pure comedian

maybe the LGBTQ community should see that documentary the Aristocrats (might help)

In closing I really do hope Davee stops with this "crusade"

cause its not gonna be FUNNY anymore.

Even for a genius like him.
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totally agree and over the last 4 or 5 concerts he wasn't doing stand up comedy as much as modified TEDtalks with humor....at this point his next series of concerts should be called DAVEtalks.

Dave sets himself apart from most comedians past and present in that theres usually one or a few routines fans repeat and imitate...for example a Eddie Murphy routine (gooney goo goo or gay Mr T) Redd Foxx (don't just wash your whole ass, wash your ass HOLE), Bill Cosby (Noah and the Ark) Chris Rock (Black People vs Niggas, Tambourine motherfucker) etc etc... This is stuff that people repeat at parties and cookouts and bars all the time.

I don't think there's one single routine or bit Dave did thats repeatable at a party. He made points that you can use if you want to DEBATE some shit but if you wanted to do a Chappelle line at a party the way people used to do a Pryor line...there's nothing that's useable in that way. Dave is in the realm of social commentary/humorist and that's a different area of comedy than most comedians don't care to be in or just DABBLE in at MOST because that comes with a certain level of responsibility. The only other comedians that I can think of that touched that level are George Carlin, Chris Rock (for a couple of concerts) and Lewis Black. But at this point Dave is wading out in those waters much further than even they did.

But your right Playa, he needs to pull back from it not just because its starting to get old but because he'll cement his perception as one thing when the other aspect of Chappelle's humor is silly and juvenile and ridiculous and funny cuz its just funny without having a deeper meaning. His next concert series needs to be like THAT (with quotable bits) for balance.
 
geechiedan said:
totally agree and over the last 4 or 5 concerts he wasn't doing stand up comedy as much as modified TEDtalks with humor....at this point his next series of concerts should be called DAVEtalks.

Dave sets himself apart from most comedians past and present in that theres usually one or a few routines fans repeat and imitate...for example a Eddie Murphy routine (gooney goo goo or gay Mr T) Redd Foxx (don't just wash your whole ass, wash your ass HOLE), Bill Cosby (Noah and the Ark) Chris Rock (Black People vs Niggas, Tambourine motherfucker) etc etc... This is stuff that people repeat at parties and cookouts and bars all the time.

I don't think there's one single routine or bit Dave did thats repeatable at a party. He made points that you can use if you want to DEBATE some shit but if you wanted to do a Chappelle line at a party the way people used to do a Pryor line...there's nothing that's useable in that way. Dave is in the realm of social commentary/humorist and that's a different area of comedy than most comedians don't care to be in or just DABBLE in at MOST because that comes with a certain level of responsibility. The only other comedians that I can think of that touched that level are George Carlin, Chris Rock (for a couple of concerts) and Lewis Black. But at this point Dave is wading out in those waters much further than even they did.

But your right Playa, he needs to pull back from it not just because its starting to get old but because he'll cement his perception as one thing when the other aspect of Chappelle's humor is silly and juvenile and ridiculous and funny cuz its just funny without having a deeper meaning. His next concert series needs to be like THAT (with quotable bits) for balance.
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Man you are going into college level discourse here.

I may not be prepared

the thing is I want to and HOPE to have a discussion of what his SKILL and TALENT and craftsmanship level is at

which is ridiculous

but I think more important?

a SPECIFIC discussion

on how he handled this subject matter in the past (but more so HERE in this final special )

can be hand

but HAS to be had with genuine RESPECT for BOTH sides.

If that is possible

because I would contend that how Dave SPECIFICALLY handled these topics here were masterful

(a little muddled a little clumsy but I think that was more because of EMOTION than any lack of skill)
 
All the bullshit talk about transphobia and homophobia. :smh: So fitting he did this on punk ass netflix. That place just puts out the worst shit now with a clear rainbow agenda. Them weirdos on rotten tomatoes won't touch this special, but the audience score is all that matters(when RT doesn't ban it or try to fix it).

Fucking hypocrites. Now they want to cancel netlifx when all netflix does is put out the most ridiculous shit.

I bet if comedians had their own platform where they could do what they want it would do numbers. Right now, most are afraid of censorship whether they want to admit it or not.
 
geechiedan said:
totally agree and over the last 4 or 5 concerts he wasn't doing stand up comedy as much as modified TEDtalks with humor....at this point his next series of concerts should be called DAVEtalks.

Dave sets himself apart from most comedians past and present in that theres usually one or a few routines fans repeat and imitate...for example a Eddie Murphy routine (gooney goo goo or gay Mr T) Redd Foxx (don't just wash your whole ass, wash your ass HOLE), Bill Cosby (Noah and the Ark) Chris Rock (Black People vs Niggas, Tambourine motherfucker) etc etc... This is stuff that people repeat at parties and cookouts and bars all the time.

I don't think there's one single routine or bit Dave did thats repeatable at a party. He made points that you can use if you want to DEBATE some shit but if you wanted to do a Chappelle line at a party the way people used to do a Pryor line...there's nothing that's useable in that way. Dave is in the realm of social commentary/humorist and that's a different area of comedy than most comedians don't care to be in or just DABBLE in at MOST because that comes with a certain level of responsibility. The only other comedians that I can think of that touched that level are George Carlin, Chris Rock (for a couple of concerts) and Lewis Black. But at this point Dave is wading out in those waters much further than even they did.

But your right Playa, he needs to pull back from it not just because its starting to get old but because he'll cement his perception as one thing when the other aspect of Chappelle's humor is silly and juvenile and ridiculous and funny cuz its just funny without having a deeper meaning. His next concert series needs to be like THAT (with quotable bits) for balance.
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Chris to me is so damn SURGICAL with his material, everything and mean EVERY THING is said for a reason

the pauses the expressions pronunciations enunciation

are fine tuned

to me its like every GREAT comedian is a kung fu master from those old 70s movies

and EACH has his own style and chamber

Richard Pryor, Eddie, Chris Rock , Carlin, Cosby, Patrice, Andy Kaufman, Kinison, George Burns, Rich Little, Rodney dangerfield, Seinfeld....

they got their OWN master style

its NOT that they can;t do it all

its that they have hones their respective skill to be so SINGULAR and so SIGNATURE

Chappelle aint a BETTER storyteller than Bill Cosby... not many are PERIOD

But the WAY he tells his STORY?

Nobody else does that.

and that goes for all the greats I mentioned

what Dave doing we seen before

but not like THIS.
 
Amajorfucup said:
Which is why i said, " Im sure he purposely left some ambiguity there but its clear who he really meant by his "tribe".

That was yet another shot at the trans community's grandstanding and hypocrisy. His subtle point there was that not only did they contribute to her suicide, but they (apparently) didnt do shit for her or child post death. You cant deduce over a hour of themed material to one a closing one liner stated for effect. The protruding theme throughout was pretty clearly about perspective and objective disparities from a racial purview.
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It's like those companies that posted black squares, they care for appearance, not because it's in their hearts.
 
playahaitian said:



Ummm SHE aint think this through....

cause it is NOT gonna go the way she planned this out in her mind

Sometimes it better to just DO something

WITHOUT announcing it first
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I was trying not to go there, but since yall opened the door.

This white Trans is running a supposedly "woke" black show?? Just Google some of the other shows. It's the same bs.

BTW, she quit. See ya!!!

Jaclyn P Moore, a writer, executive producer and showrunner for Netflix's Dear White People, has parted ways with the streaming platform after it refused to pull comedian Dave Chappelle's upcoming stand-up special.

 
playahaitian said:
Man you are going into college level discourse here.

I may not be prepared

the thing is I want to and HOPE to have a discussion of what his SKILL and TALENT and craftsmanship level is at

which is ridiculous

but I think more important?

a SPECIFIC discussion

on how he handled this subject matter in the past (but more so HERE in this final special )

can be hand

but HAS to be had with genuine RESPECT for BOTH sides.

If that is possible

because I would contend that how Dave SPECIFICALLY handled these topics here were masterful

(a little muddled a little clumsy but I think that was more because of EMOTION than any lack of skill)
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playahaitian said:
Man you are going into college level discourse here.

I may not be prepared

the thing is I want to and HOPE to have a discussion of what his SKILL and TALENT and craftsmanship level is at

which is ridiculous

but I think more important?

a SPECIFIC discussion

on how he handled this subject matter in the past (but more so HERE in this final special )

can be hand

but HAS to be had with genuine RESPECT for BOTH sides.

If that is possible

because I would contend that how Dave SPECIFICALLY handled these topics here were masterful

(a little muddled a little clumsy but I think that was more because of EMOTION than any lack of skill)
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totally... I've never seen a comedian do a SERIES of concerts that was one big piece itself.

The Age of Spin
Deep In the Heart of Texas
Equanimity
The Bird Revelation
Sticks & Stones
The Closer

there is a whole college course worth of material in those six concerts. This body of work sets him apart from every contemporary comedian thats stood on the stage in the last 100 years and I'm being literal. The ONLY other comedian I can think of thats come anywhere close is Dick Gregory the only comedian who COULD IMO do something similar would be Trevor Noah.
 
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Amajorfucup said:
Which is why i said, " Im sure he purposely left some ambiguity there but its clear who he really meant by his "tribe".

That was yet another shot at the trans community's grandstanding and hypocrisy. His subtle point there was that not only did they contribute to her suicide, but they (apparently) didnt do shit for her or child post death. You cant deduce over a hour of themed material to one a closing one liner stated for effect. The protruding theme throughout was pretty clearly about perspective and objective disparities from a racial purview.
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That's not ambiguous sir..
 
geechiedan said:
totally... I've never seen a comedian do a SERIES of concerts that was one big piece itself.

The Age of Spin
Deep In the Heart of Texas
Equanimity
The Bird Revelation
Sticks & Stones
The Closer

there is a whole college course worth of material in those six concerts. This body of work sets him apart from every contemporary comedian thats stood on the stage in the last 100 years and I'm being literal. The ONLY other comedian I can think of thats come anywhere close is Dick Gregory the only comedian who COULD IMO do something similar would be Trevor Noah.
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Yea, man, that's a master class in comedy. & I love the fact that Richard Pryor's favorite show had been the Chappelle Show those last years of his life.
 
REDLINE said:
He said “She”!

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that is what SHE wants

that's what it is now and we not gonna change that anytime soon

and that's fine

It don't bother me.

all I ask is just respect MY NAME too.

Calling us boy...

And I had to consider how these white folk REFUSED to recognize so many of US by our name

Mohammad Ali, mahmoud abdul rauf, Metta World Peace etc

hell even calling Deion COACH

so If that is what you WANT to be called?

I have no problem

But RESPECT MINE TOO.

But this person right here is on some bullsh*t and I don't believe is genuine.

This was for ATTENTION

and now I think this person is gonna get some attention they were NOT prepared for.

This seems like clout chasing and preparing themselves to play martyr
 
playahaitian said:
that is what SHE wants

that's what it is now and we not gonna change that anytime soon

and that's fine

It don't bother me.

all I ask is just respect MY NAME too.

Calling us boy...

And I had to consider how these white folk REFUSED to recognize so many of US by our name

Mohammad Ali, mahmoud abdul rauf, Metta World Peace etc

hell even calling Deion COACH

so If that is what you WANT to be called?

I have no problem

But RESPECT MINE TOO.

But this person right here is on some bullsh*t and I don't believe is genuine.

This was for ATTENTION

and now I think this person is gonna get some attention they were NOT prepared for.

This seems like clout chasing and preparing themselves to play martyr
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I don’t believe she’s clout chasing. Unfortunately her and her allies don’t get what Dave’s talking about because they’re only hearing what they want to hear.
 
REDLINE said:
I don’t believe she’s clout chasing. Unfortunately her and her allies don’t get what Dave’s talking about because they’re only hearing what they want to hear.
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I don't know

He been on this for like 3 specials and you choose now to make this big declaration?

Publicly?

The entire time that show was kinda popping where was this person?

It's the show final season anyway?

Did Netflix offer any more projects to this person?

I will give her this...

It was the most even keeled admonishing I have ever read.

She making sure to not burn any bridges

That's why I said it seemed like clout chasing
 

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