Marc Lamont Hill suffers a mild heart attack

Your first post in this thread you said:

Secondly, you’re lying.
This:
”I asked whether we should look into whether the Covid vax may have contributed to it. You said, there's no reason to look into it because you know for a fact that it had nothing to do with the vax. You have no way of knowing this.”

Never happened. You never asked me that and I never replied what you said in bold.

Nothing wrong with asking questions of the government and drug companies, etc. Thing is though, when the CDC and WHO and Pfizer give answers based upon hundreds and thousands of scientists, testing and the like, are you gonna accept their answers even if it disagrees with what you’ve chosen to believe? Or are you goin to pull out one or two scientists and declare their opposing opinion to be correct and the thousands to all be wrong?

Thirdly, all that you said about testing and science, very curious that didn’t seem to apply to other reasons people get blood clots when you originally replied to this thread. Your original reply and constant attempts to justify it were out of place in this thread. It was a silly comment. “Will Pfizer look into this and prove the vaccine had nothing to do with it?”

Are you serious? Why would Pfizer look into Marc’s situation? Whenever other people in this thread have posted other common reasons why people come down with DVT, you have doggedly swatted them away and kept throwing up COVID vaccines. For the record, I never name-called you or called you an idiot.

You said: “I'm open to the idea that I could be wrong. Are you?”
I have no problem admitting being wrong or mistaken. I’ve done so a number of times on BGOL. There’s no shame in that. However I’m not wrong here. The one you should be asking that question is looking at you in your mirror. This especially after you misquoted me twice and even made up things that I supposedly said that I didn’t. AND, without receipts, accused me of practicing confirmation bias.
Thanks for your thought out response.

Sorry if I misquoted you, I think I got posters mixed up.

My point is that people on the issue of the vaccine fall into the extreme belief category. Either they refuse to believe that it can help and think it’s a government conspiracy (which is wrong). Or they believe that it is the elixir that will save us from Covid.

The truth lies in the middle, but for a number of reasons people aren’t able to discuss the nuances of the vaccine without being called an anti-vaxxer.

You seem to be open minded, which is rare these days.

My point is that it is possible, given all the scientific data we have to date, that the vaccine could cause the type of severe reaction that Marc had. We just don’t know if the vaccine causes these type of reactions. Anyone that says they know is wrong - there is evidence going both ways.

And we could know if we demanded Pfizer and the government do so.

Every month the government pays Pfizer billions for vaccines. They could demand that Pfizer do random testing on its safety, and the safety of other possible treatments like ivermectin. But they haven’t. Just last week, 10 out of 12 FDA doctors found that giving a booster shot to young people could be unsafe. No follow up (yet). No asking how unsafe the current vaccine is to young people. It’s crazy and sickening.

Pfizer has no incentive to do further testing that could possibly lead to less people taking its cash cow product. The government is just pushing the drug because they don’t want to cause a panic.

The point of my initial post here is that when we see stories like Marc, or others it should remind us of the position of ignorance that the drug companies and government are willfully putting us in. The uncertainty and potential damage to our health that we’re all under unnecessarily.

This isn’t April 2020 when the virus first came our and no one knew anything.

As for whether I’d accept a study showing the vaccine was safe, of course I’d accept it. Just like I accept that other vaccines have been proven safe.
 
Once again.
my older brothers, if you want to start hooping again, get in shape first, really in shape, including stretching and yoga. Too many dudes pop their Achilles on the reg trying to relive glory days.
I wish bro the best.
Learn from his example.
 
Except you rushed in talking about COVID vaccine being the cause when there was zero in the post indicating that was the case.

I call bullshit on your being “open to many different possibilities, and would like to hear more before coming to a conclusion”.

You came in leading with COVID vaxx being the cause and then doubled down on defending your original point(lessness). If you felt it was one among many possibilities, that’s not what you communicated.
I suspect he saw the title and read the first line and saw an opportunity to run with an agenda...he didn't even see the part of the story talking about the surgery....once pointed out to him, he figured it was too late to back down
 
In your world you dismiss your information from any source you don't like and accept it from sources that you do like. Literally the epitome of ignorance

Bwahahahaha. The Gateway Pundit has been caught in so many lies their owner has said they got to do better cause he's tired of getting sued.

As I said before it's way more telling that that is the publication you chose to prove your point. You needed a bullshit website cause all you post is bullshit.

This thread is showing just how fucking stupid you dudes really are.

Have you posted in the verification thread????
 
Bwahahahaha. The Gateway Pundit has been caught in so many lies their owner has said they got to do better cause he's tired of getting sued.

As I said before it's way more telling that that is the publication you chose to prove your point. You needed a bullshit website cause all you post is bullshit.

This thread is showing just how fucking stupid you dudes really are.

Have you posted in the verification thread????
All American news is slanted. I don't need a bullshit website to prove anything because I do what I do regardless. The fact that you keep insisting I and others prove our skin color as if that's some aptitude test says alot about your intelligence.

Read more and not just people who agree with your point of view.

You're welcome
 
All American news is slanted. I don't need a bullshit website to prove anything because I do what I do regardless. The fact that you keep insisting I and others prove our skin color as if that's some aptitude test says alot about your intelligence.

Read more and not just people who agree with your point of view.

You're welcome

Why do you keep avoiding it tho? It's very telling that the biggest anti vaxx posters on here make up every excuse to prove that they are Black.
 
Why do you keep avoiding it tho? It's very telling that the biggest anti vaxx posters on here make up every excuse to prove that they are Black.
I'm not avoiding it it's just pointless. I prove it then what? We still won't agree because you suck democratic dick. When you realize both sides shitty I'll post my hand
 
I'm not avoiding it it's just pointless. I prove it then what? We still won't agree because you suck democratic dick. When you realize both sides shitty I'll post my hand

Blah blah blah......every excuse in the world to not verify you're Black, posting from known right wing fake news sites, was on here telling Black people not to vote.

Y'all make it so obvious.
 
Blah blah blah......every excuse in the world to not verify you're Black, posting from known right wing fake news sites, was on here telling Black people not to vote.

Y'all make it so obvious.
What did ya vote get you? If I was white and trying to trick black people into not voting so Trump would win and I failed as you say..what did you gain lmao. Biden has been even worse and black people haven't gotten any of the promises. Guess u have midterms tho

The audacity of hope
 


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I know I am wasting my time on here but months ago they found that the incidence of clotting was higher in the general public than in the vaccinated. They also found that the incidence of clotting was much higher with those who contracted covid than those who were vaccinated:

The risk of rare blood clotting is significantly higher as a result of catching Covid-19, than it is from being vaccinated against the virus, a new study has found.

In a peer-reviewed study published in the British Medical Journal on Friday, researchers from Oxford University, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and several other British universities and hospitals analyzed data from more than 29 million people who had received their first dose of either the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine or the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The study’s authors were fully independent from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine developers.

Scientists looked into rates of thromboembolic events – blood clots – and thrombocytopenia, a condition with low platelet counts. Rare blood clotting with low platelet levels has been associated with the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccination.

The paper compared rates of rare blood clotting after a first vaccination dose and following a positive Covid-19 test.

Researchers found that the risk of these adverse events was “substantially higher” following Covid-19 infection than it was after receiving either the Oxford-AstraZeneca or the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.



COVID-19—the actual disease—poses 8 to 10 times the threat of blood clots in the brain than do coronavirus vaccines, a large, non–peer-reviewed study led by University of Oxford researchers finds.



But hey, these are only peer reviewed studies produced by actual academics and not Tweets or Facebook posts so I am not sure this will be persuasive for the idiot class on here. Every bullshit reason they have offered for not being vaccinated has been investigated and debunked but they continue to move the goal posts. Like others have said, this isn't a true medical/public health issue but an actual test of people's ability to reason and use logic. :smh: :lol:
 
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Don’t listen to the B1 fools or Tariq who breaks her codes everyday. He never shitted on Dr. Welsing.

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I know I am wasting my time on here but months ago they found that the incidence of clotting was higher in the general public than in the vaccinated. They also found that the incidence of clotting was much higher with those who contracted covid than those who were vaccinated:

The risk of rare blood clotting is significantly higher as a result of catching Covid-19, than it is from being vaccinated against the virus, a new study has found.

In a peer-reviewed study published in the British Medical Journal on Friday, researchers from Oxford University, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and several other British universities and hospitals analyzed data from more than 29 million people who had received their first dose of either the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine or the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The study’s authors were fully independent from the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine developers.

Scientists looked into rates of thromboembolic events – blood clots – and thrombocytopenia, a condition with low platelet counts. Rare blood clotting with low platelet levels has been associated with the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccination.

The paper compared rates of rare blood clotting after a first vaccination dose and following a positive Covid-19 test.

Researchers found that the risk of these adverse events was “substantially higher” following Covid-19 infection than it was after receiving either the Oxford-AstraZeneca or the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.



COVID-19—the actual disease—poses 8 to 10 times the threat of blood clots in the brain than do coronavirus vaccines, a large, non–peer-reviewed study led by University of Oxford researchers finds.



But hey, these are only peer reviewed studies produced by actual academics and not Tweets or Facebook posts so I am not sure this will be persuasive for the idiot class on here. Every bullshit reason they have offered for not being vaccinated has been investigated and debunked but they continue to move the goal posts. Like others have said, this isn't a true medical/public health issue but an actual test of people's ability to reason and use logic. :smh: :lol:
Interesting studies. The problem is that the Covid vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting Covid. So what happens when you get the vaccine and then you later catch Covid, which will likely happen to everyone who got the vaccine? Does it further increase your risk?

These are the type of fairly obvious questions that one would ask if they didn't do the study with an agenda already.
 
Interesting studies. The problem is that the Covid vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting Covid. So what happens when you get the vaccine and then you later catch Covid, which will likely happen to everyone who got the vaccine? Does it further increase your risk?

These are the type of fairly obvious questions that one would ask if they didn't do the study with an agenda already.
My god what’s wrong with you!?!? This has been explained 10 million TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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