Your first post in this thread you said:
Secondly, you’re lying.
This:
”I asked whether we should look into whether the Covid vax may have contributed to it. You said, there's no reason to look into it because you know for a fact that it had nothing to do with the vax. You have no way of knowing this.”
Never happened. You never asked me that and I never replied what you said in bold.
Nothing wrong with asking questions of the government and drug companies, etc. Thing is though, when the CDC and WHO and Pfizer give answers based upon hundreds and thousands of scientists, testing and the like, are you gonna accept their answers even if it disagrees with what you’ve chosen to believe? Or are you goin to pull out one or two scientists and declare their opposing opinion to be correct and the thousands to all be wrong?
Thirdly, all that you said about testing and science, very curious that didn’t seem to apply to other reasons people get blood clots when you originally replied to this thread. Your original reply and constant attempts to justify it were out of place in this thread. It was a silly comment. “Will Pfizer look into this and prove the vaccine had nothing to do with it?”
Are you serious? Why would Pfizer look into Marc’s situation? Whenever other people in this thread have posted other common reasons why people come down with DVT, you have doggedly swatted them away and kept throwing up COVID vaccines. For the record, I never name-called you or called you an idiot.
You said: “I'm open to the idea that I could be wrong. Are you?”
I have no problem admitting being wrong or mistaken. I’ve done so a number of times on BGOL. There’s no shame in that. However I’m not wrong here. The one you should be asking that question is looking at you in your mirror. This especially after you misquoted me twice and even made up things that I supposedly said that I didn’t. AND, without receipts, accused me of practicing confirmation bias.
Thanks for your thought out response.
Sorry if I misquoted you, I think I got posters mixed up.
My point is that people on the issue of the vaccine fall into the extreme belief category. Either they refuse to believe that it can help and think it’s a government conspiracy (which is wrong). Or they believe that it is the elixir that will save us from Covid.
The truth lies in the middle, but for a number of reasons people aren’t able to discuss the nuances of the vaccine without being called an anti-vaxxer.
You seem to be open minded, which is rare these days.
My point is that it is possible, given all the scientific data we have to date, that the vaccine could cause the type of severe reaction that Marc had. We just don’t know if the vaccine causes these type of reactions. Anyone that says they know is wrong - there is evidence going both ways.
And we could know if we demanded Pfizer and the government do so.
Every month the government pays Pfizer billions for vaccines. They could demand that Pfizer do random testing on its safety, and the safety of other possible treatments like ivermectin. But they haven’t. Just last week, 10 out of 12 FDA doctors found that giving a booster shot to young people could be unsafe. No follow up (yet). No asking how unsafe the current vaccine is to young people. It’s crazy and sickening.
Pfizer has no incentive to do further testing that could possibly lead to less people taking its cash cow product. The government is just pushing the drug because they don’t want to cause a panic.
The point of my initial post here is that when we see stories like Marc, or others it should remind us of the position of ignorance that the drug companies and government are willfully putting us in. The uncertainty and potential damage to our health that we’re all under unnecessarily.
This isn’t April 2020 when the virus first came our and no one knew anything.
As for whether I’d accept a study showing the vaccine was safe, of course I’d accept it. Just like I accept that other vaccines have been proven safe.