Trump Gripes About Losing Ungrateful Catholic, Jewish Voters On Call With Religious Advisers

Germany didn't have to deal with racism? If you are saying that it wasn't that because it was jews, we're gonna have to agree to disagree. That's a hair I won't split.

Second, the Civil War was damn near all white people killing white people so I'm a little unclear on what you're trying to say here. I guess you're saying that the social and political will to punish confederate traitors with death did not exist...which is exactly what I said so I'm a bit lost.

Third, I didn't mean he was trained or coached by Russians as much as exploited by them. I'll call him what they call him, a useful idiot. Nothing more. The media was manipulated THROUGH Trump much more than BY Trump, that's where I'm disagreeing with you.

All these takes that frame Trump as a political strategist are always funny to me because they all miss the entire crux of his existence.

The man is a lying cheat who does whatever he can to escape accountability for lying and cheating.

EVERYTHING Trump has done has been to keep from paying debts. Every. Single. Thing.

People smarter than him and richer than him plugged him into a system to achieve their own ends.

Goebbes the nigga is not.


Y'all are basically saying the same thing. He was a master manipulator and played the media, but he didn't map out his plans, it was done by instinct, off the cuff. His repetition of words and phrases annoyed the hell out of most folks, but he was basically conditioning his audience, who listened to him over and over again, exposed to these mantras via Fox news and other outlets who only supported Trump. It was like affirmations for the wicked. There were no other media inputs to compare for reason, fairness, truth or accuracy. Every thing was labeled fake news, and he repeated that word over and over again, and his base parroted him word for word.

Trump takes note of what excites people and he pushes it further. He pays attention to feedback and adjusts accordingly. He instinctively knows what buttons to push and tells people what they want to hear. All those so called Christians? He wasn't appealing to their goodness, he appealed tho their thirst for power, dislike of anyone not living and worshiping like them, and the desire to assert their will and way of life over the rest of the country. However, he also had people around him like Stephen Miller who were using and manipulating him for their own ends and they DID plan and were purposely weaponizing race and racial tensions. Racial stuff that Trump may not be aware of, such as making announcements or launching initiatives that were in opposition to something on the anniversary of a significant event regarding it. Trump was a spark used to light stuff up. They basically just had to put a bug in his ear and let him run with it.
 
Indeed,

If Trump were truly smart he would've governed more from the middle. He would have been more Nuanced in his political strategy. Instead, he beat the same drum and catered to the same lunatic fringe. He never truly acknowledged that he lost the popular vote. If he had he would have governed more from the middle. He doesn't understand politics, government, foreign policy, science, history, business, sesame street, etc... He's an Idiot DeLuxe. A fool of Astronomical proportions. A pathetic example of a petty criminal allowed to run amok in the highest office in the land. If he had the brainpower of the average cum stain he could have won last year. The Corona Virus was a gift from the Fates. If Trump had acted responsibly by masking and encouraging lockdowns and caution and rendered aid where it was needed he could've run on that alone. If he had treated the Virus as an invader and presented our efforts as a war it would have been almost impossible to beat him because Americans just aren't that smart. Imagine if just half as many people died in this country by last November than actually did. He is not smart. He is a master of mediocrity.


He also didn't want the stock market to bottom out and have the economy crash as a result of lock downs. One of the things he could consistently point to as a measure of success was the stock market, whether he had anything to do with it or not. When he saw his base was against it he ran with it to keep them energized. When he saw his base was against masks, he encouraged it, refused to tell them to back down. He encouraged them to storm state capitals.
 
Y'all are basically saying the same thing. He was a master manipulator and played the media, but he didn't map out his plans, it was done by instinct, off the cuff. His repetition of words and phrases annoyed the hell out of most folks, but he was basically conditioning his audience, who listened to him over and over again, exposed to these mantras via Fox news and other outlets who only supported Trump. It was like affirmations for the wicked. There were no other media inputs to compare for reason, fairness, truth or accuracy. Every thing was labeled fake news, and he repeated that word over and over again, and his base parroted him word for word.

Trump takes note of what excites people and he pushes it further. He pays attention to feedback and adjusts accordingly. He instinctively knows what buttons to push and tells people what they want to hear. All those so called Christians? He wasn't appealing to their goodness, he appealed tho their thirst for power, dislike of anyone not living and worshiping like them, and the desire to assert their will and way of life over the rest of the country. However, he also had people around him like Stephen Miller who were using and manipulating him for their own ends and they DID plan and were purposely weaponizing race and racial tensions. Racial stuff that Trump may not be aware of, such as making announcements or launching initiatives that were in opposition to something on the anniversary of a significant event regarding it. Trump was a spark used to light stuff up. They basically just had to put a bug in his ear and let him run with it.

My argument, which is backed up by countless articles already, is that he's a master propagandist.

That's all I'm saying.

I've shown proof in major publications.

If this was simply MY opinion, it wouldn't mean jack.

These are the works of several independent authors, whose work is read by thousands of people.

My good brother, however, wanted to say those articles weren't valid, because they may have not thought of extenuating circumstances...

Yet, he offered NO proof that the author didn't do his due diligence...

You question the author, put up proof that your suspicion is warranted..

@sammyjax is basically doing the same thing trump does..

The article's not valid...cuz I say so.

That's not how it works in the real world.

But I'll say again..great discourse.
 
ok so my response to these is pretty simple

I do not take it as a given that Trump sat at the head of the marketing table and engineered this strategy, which I think is a precursor required to take this as gospel fact. The more that fact can be born out, the more credit I'll give him. I have not seen sufficient evidence of this.

I also don't think that the USA Today assessment addresses the effect of this country's extreme thirst for racism and the fact that he exploited a population and a particular media outlet who were heavily frontloaded for this kind of responsiveness to a figurehead like him (he didn't exactly turn fox news out, they were racist af for at LEAST the 8 years prior) . MAGAts were not virtuous innocents one day and hypnotized the next; they by and large held racist and fringe beliefs before he arrived.

He reverse windmilled on an 8 foot goal, man.

That USA today article on that nigga jock lol
i think thats what a few of us are saying to @black again there was so much amateurish fuckery that it was easy to see the ineptitude rather than a mastermind at work, he was just lucky as he always has been since born to somehow manage to b at the right place to take credit for shit
 
i think thats what a few of us are saying to @black again there was so much amateurish fuckery that it was easy to see the ineptitude rather than a mastermind at work, he was just lucky as he always has been since born to somehow manage to b at the right place to take credit for shit

I respectfully claim that you're STILL missing the point.

People, its not that difficult to comprehend.

Im not talking anything about ineptitude or fuckery.

I'm ONLY Talking about how he used the media to promote his propaganda.

This is the part that if you don't understand this, I can't help you...

If it was just ME saying this, it would be meaningless...

There are ALREADY dozens of authors saying this...I already provided examples.

In reality, this is actually an opinion, which only an idiot would try to debate.

However, it's NOT just mine. It's the opinion of quite a few authors, who write for a living..not just on porn boards.

Just a s/n..in reading up on the subject, someone claimed that trump received in the neighborhood of 2billion dollars in FREE air time, when he was first running for office...let that sink in
 
My argument, which is backed up by countless articles already, is that he's a master propagandist.

That's all I'm saying.

I've shown proof in major publications.

If this was simply MY opinion, it wouldn't mean jack.

These are the works of several independent authors, whose work is read by thousands of people.

My good brother, however, wanted to say those articles weren't valid, because they may have not thought of extenuating circumstances...

Yet, he offered NO proof that the author didn't do his due diligence...

You question the author, put up proof that your suspicion is warranted..

@sammyjax is basically doing the same thing trump does..

The article's not valid...cuz I say so.

That's not how it works in the real world.

But I'll say again..great discourse.
I'll concede you have evidence of what you claim. I'm not even going to argue hard on the validity of it.

I will say this, though. The media you're citing that claims he is a master strategist and propagandist is the same media that mismanaged covering him and allowed him to gain unwarranted attention. Of course they're going to tout his ability to manipulate, because the alternative is posting articles about how foolish they were to help him out.

But as has been pointed out, we are closer to the same point than we are at odds. The main reason I won't claim that Trump is a master manipulator is because I think it gives him too much credit. He didn't train wolves to attack on command. He got them worked up by dangling meat in front of them. They were just as likely to attack his allies as they were his enemies, as Jan. 6th demonstrated.
 
I can do this all day..



The Guardian

Donald Trump
and mirrors: how Trump manipulates the media and opponents
The president-elect has a number of tactics – including empty words, misleading spectacles, and ‘gaslighting’ – in his arsenal
Alan Yuhas
@alanyuhas
Wed 18 Jan 2017 06.00 EST


Us News


The Master of Manipulation
The press keeps taking Donald Trump's bait – and all the free coverage is keeping his campaign afloat.
By Mary Kate Cary Contributing Editor for Opinion •





CNN
Donald Trump, media manipulator in chief

By Dean Obeidallah
Updated 7:50 AM EST, Mon November 9, 2015




The Baltimore Sun


Trump a master media manipulator in his prime
By DAVID ZURAWIK
THE BALTIMORE SUN
MAY 06, 2016 AT 1:18 PM



Time
  • POLITICS
  • BEWARE THE TRICKS AND TRAPS OF DONALD TRUMP, NEWS MANIPULATOR IN CHIEF
Beware the Tricks and Traps of Donald Trump, News Manipulator in Chief
 
My argument, which is backed up by countless articles already, is that he's a master propagandist.

That's all I'm saying.

I've shown proof in major publications.

If this was simply MY opinion, it wouldn't mean jack.

These are the works of several independent authors, whose work is read by thousands of people.

My good brother, however, wanted to say those articles weren't valid, because they may have not thought of extenuating circumstances...

Yet, he offered NO proof that the author didn't do his due diligence...

You question the author, put up proof that your suspicion is warranted..

@sammyjax is basically doing the same thing trump does..

The article's not valid...cuz I say so.

That's not how it works in the real world.

But I'll say again..great discourse.
What else would you expect? That @sammyjax character is one of the biggest coons / pro-whites on BGOL.

The biggest haters of Trump on BGOL are the ones just like him, but wear BLUE hats, always exposing themselves :lol:
 
I can do this all day..



The Guardian

Donald Trump
and mirrors: how Trump manipulates the media and opponents
The president-elect has a number of tactics – including empty words, misleading spectacles, and ‘gaslighting’ – in his arsenal
Alan Yuhas
@alanyuhas
Wed 18 Jan 2017 06.00 EST


Us News


The Master of Manipulation
The press keeps taking Donald Trump's bait – and all the free coverage is keeping his campaign afloat.
By Mary Kate Cary Contributing Editor for Opinion •





CNN
Donald Trump, media manipulator in chief

By Dean Obeidallah
Updated 7:50 AM EST, Mon November 9, 2015




The Baltimore Sun


Trump a master media manipulator in his prime
By DAVID ZURAWIK
THE BALTIMORE SUN
MAY 06, 2016 AT 1:18 PM



Time
  • POLITICS
  • BEWARE THE TRICKS AND TRAPS OF DONALD TRUMP, NEWS MANIPULATOR IN CHIEF
Beware the Tricks and Traps of Donald Trump, News Manipulator in Chief
As dumb as 45 is this is the one thing he does get right, if there was a prize for Manipulation he would have won it 10x over.
 
I'll concede you have evidence of what you claim. I'm not even going to argue hard on the validity of it.

I will say this, though. The media you're citing that claims he is a master strategist and propagandist is the same media that mismanaged covering him and allowed him to gain unwarranted attention. Of course they're going to tout his ability to manipulate, because the alternative is posting articles about how foolish they were to help him out.

But as has been pointed out, we are closer to the same point than we are at odds. The main reason I won't claim that Trump is a master manipulator is because I think it gives him too much credit. He didn't train wolves to attack on command. He got them worked up by dangling meat in front of them. They were just as likely to attack his allies as they were his enemies, as Jan. 6th demonstrated.

You do understand that what you typed in bold actually proves my point. :lol: The rest is just fluff. It might mean something if the media was a single entity. But it's not...it's a mass of various publications independent authors, tv, radio, internet, etc.. across the spectrum...

He didn't play them all.


At least you were honest and don't wanna give him credit. Just say that, instead of all the extra stuff.




I'll give you mofos credit...

In the face of overwhelming evidence, y'all will STILL hold onto a losing argument.

It's sad, but funny at the same time...

Oh, and if you wanna ..." I'm not even going to argue hard on the validity of it."

:lol::roflmao3::roflmao:

Yeah, all that fake news I posted COULDN'T be valid.

Please invalidate it. That'll be hilarious!
 
As dumb as 45 is this is the one thing he does get right, if there was a prize for Manipulation he would have won it 10x over.

Bruh...they ain't tryna here that..

They don't like him too much to give him ANY credit. :lol:
Where I'm from, we called folks like that

Hatas... or haters , for the more proper types
 
You do understand that what you typed in bold actually proves my point. :lol: The rest is just fluff. It might mean something if the media was a single entity. But it's not...it's a mass of various publications independent authors, tv, radio, internet, etc.. across the spectrum...

He didn't play them all.


At least you were honest and don't wanna give him credit. Just say that, instead of all the extra stuff.




I'll give you mofos credit...

In the face of overwhelming evidence, y'all will STILL hold onto a losing argument.

It's sad, but funny at the same time...

Oh, and if you wanna ..." I'm not even going to argue hard on the validity of it."

:lol::roflmao3::roflmao:

Yeah, all that fake news I posted COULDN'T be valid.

Please invalidate it. That'll be hilarious!
I literally tried to bridge the gap here, after you yourself said you enjoyed the discourse. I literally conceded your point, but added a piece of commentary after it.

You responded by being a dick.

But that's cool. You gotta be you. We both know where we stand, and that's that. Enjoy the rest of your day, week, what have you. No hard feelings, but obviously we're at the end any real discussion, anyway.
 
I literally tried to bridge the gap here, after you yourself said you enjoyed the discourse. I literally conceded your point, but added a piece of commentary after it.

You responded by being a dick.

But that's cool. You gotta be you. We both know where we stand, and that's that. Enjoy the rest of your day, week, what have you. No hard feelings, but obviously we're at the end any real discussion, anyway.

Bruh, you tried to be slick with the ..

"I'm not gonna argue hard on the validity."....

As if there's a question of it's validity..

If you had something to support your position, you'd have said it.

No hard feelings here either.

Engage me in dialog or not...doesn't matter
 
No he isn't. He's a very obvious grifter and lyng imbecile.
He's just bringing it to people who are even more retarded than he is,
Sheep who are deeply racist and immensely gullible.
So it appears masterful.
This
 
I hate to give trump his due, cuz he's nuts in so many ways, but this mofo is a MASTER of propaganda! He makes Goebbels look like an amateur.

It's not like he's using one or two plays from the ol third Reich playbook....he's replayed every trick!
Not really. Mofos know he is lying but they don't give a fuck because they benefit from racism.
 
Not really. Mofos know he is lying but they don't give a fuck because they benefit from racism.
Most of his followers don't benefit financially, it just soothes their cold racist hearts. I was watching a Vaush debate when he was destroying a racist arguing for an ethnostate and against system racism, and the racist was saying that he doesn't want too many people of color voting because they'll start to make policies to benefit people of color. The rebuttal from Vaush was, "do the current white people in charge make policies to benefit white people?". The racist just froze because his argument that system racism doesn't exist just fell apart by his own admission. These people are dumb and racist, and refuse to put 10 toes down and say "I'm just racist and dumb and I hate America for being a melting pot.".
 
Damn!

I wish I could find someone...a legit news agency... ANYTHING that proves my position.. :lol: :roflmao: :roflmao3:


The Political Genius of Donald Trump
The president is transmuting his calamitous failures into political gold.
By Frida Ghitis

Kevin Lamarque / Reuters
MARCH 31, 2020
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About the author: Frida Ghitis is a former CNN producer and correspondent. She is a contributing columnist for The Washington Post, a regular contributor to CNN Opinion, and a columnist at World Politics Review.


The Boston Globe
Trump machine whirring on endless media exposure
By Matt Viser Globe Staff,October 15, 2015, 1:32 p.m.



Vanity Fair

HOW TRUMP BECAME A MASTER OF MANIPULATING THE MEDIA
Meet “John Barron,” Trump's old public relations alter ego.
BY EMILY JANE FOX
MARCH 22, 2016




Independent Australia

Is Trump a madman or an expert in media manipulation?
By Common Dreams | 2 January 2018, 11:30am | 27 comments |


NY Post

Bernie Sanders: Donald Trump is the master media manipulator
By Marisa Schultz and Bob Fredericks
December 25, 2015 | 12:09am
 
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