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WFT adds two more players to reserve/covid-19 list at end of training camp week in Richmond

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Washington guard Brandon Scherff was one of two players the team added to its reserve/covid-19 list Saturday. (John McDonnell/The Washington Post)
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July 31, 2021 at 3:06 p.m. EDT


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RICHMOND — The Washington Football Team ended its week of training camp in Richmond by placing two more players — right guard Brandon Scherff and offensive tackle David Sharpe — on the reserve/covid-19 list, creating greater concern about the team’s vaccination rate and potential for an outbreak.
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Washington has six players — including wide receiver Curtis Samuel, offensive tackle Cornelius Lucas, defensive tackle Matt Ioannidis and cornerback Chris Miller — on its covid-19 list, which, as of Saturday morning, was the second most in the NFL behind only the Arizona Cardinals (nine).
Coach Ron Rivera, who underwent cancer treatment last year for squamous cell carcinoma, has expressed his frustration with the team’s vaccination rate and said Saturday he hopes his own circumstances will sway players who have been reluctant to get immunized.






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“I think just making the statement that I’m immune deficient hopefully is part of their conversation, part of their thought process,” he said. “It is a personal decision, and we just hope that we can get more guys vaccinated. I’ve tried to broach it with a lot of our players, talk with a lot of our guys that have it. Again, it’s a personal thing. But hopefully we can sway them.”
Last season, Washington was among the teams with the fewest players to test positive. Only two were placed on the covid-19 list during the regular season, and both — Ioannidis and running back Javon Leake — were not on the active roster at the time. Tight end Logan Thomas also tested positive at the start of 2020 training camp, and wide receiver Antonio Gandy-Golden said he had the virus that spring. Neither missed any time during the regular season.
Rivera said he has spoken to many of Washington’s unvaccinated players in an attempt to understand their reluctance to get immunized and to relay any information he has learned about the vaccines. In June, during minicamp, he elicited the help of Kizzmekia S. Corbett, an immunologist and leading coronavirus researcher, to speak to players and answer questions.



“I just think it’s a matter of these guys being educated and understanding because it’s fair when you sit down and talk to these guys and listen to them and listen to their true concerns,” Rivera said. “I think some guys just don’t know, and I’ve gotten a sense that there are a few guys that have dug in so hard, so much that they’re not going to back down. So that’s the part to me that’s concerning because I care about all these guys, I really do.”
Washington’s player vaccination rate — which includes those in the process of getting vaccinated as well as those fully immunized — has been among the league’s lowest in recent months. On Monday, the team had 60 percent of its players at least partially vaccinated. That figure improved during the week in Richmond, but it’s unclear exactly how much.
According to a person with knowledge of the situation, Washington no longer has the lowest rate in the league, with at least 70 percent of its players at least partially vaccinated as of Saturday afternoon.

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Of the 32 NFL teams, 22 had more than 90 percent of their players vaccinated, and among all players, 89.4 percent are vaccinated — well above the national rate of 57.5 percent.
The NFL’s player vaccination rate is pushing 90 percent, but coronavirus issues remain
Neither Washington nor the league distinguishes publicly which players test positive for the coronavirus and which ones are placed on the list because they are close contacts. According to mandates agreed upon by the NFL and NFLPA, if players are fully vaccinated and test positive, they can return to practice if they have two negative tests taken 24 hours apart. But unvaccinated players who test positive must isolate for at least 10 days, and those considered “high risk” close contacts must quarantine five days and undergo daily PCR testing.
The absences could have more severe consequences for teams in season, when quarantines force roster shuffles and could require the league to reschedule a game because of an outbreak. In a memo sent to teams in mid-July, the league reminded that if a game cannot be rescheduled, the team responsible for the outbreak will forfeit and players will not get paid.







“And that’s part of the problem,” Rivera said. “I mean, to be very honest, that’s going to make things difficult and that’s the thing we have to be aware of. It makes it difficult in terms of everybody working together.”
Rivera posed to his players a what-if scenario: What if Saturday had been Sept. 12, and the team was about to face the Los Angeles Chargers in its season opener? If Scherff and Sharpe were, at minimum, flagged as close contacts, they would have to miss two games because Washington hosts the New York Giants the following Thursday night.
“It brings the reality of what the rules are, and I hope it helps,” he said. “But, again, these young men have to make their decisions.”

The disadvantages extend to training camp, where many players are fighting for roster spots.
The team’s first of three preseason games is Aug. 12 at New England. Should a player test positive Monday or thereafter, he would miss at least one game because of the required 10-day quarantine.
Rivera is hopeful more players will get vaccinated in the coming days and said some even have appointments scheduled for Sunday, after the team returns to Ashburn for the remainder of camp.
“I know it’s improved,” he said of the team’s vaccination rate. “It’s trending in the right direction, and hopefully we’ll continue to have it rise for us.”
 
Ron Rivera sees signs of encouragement on Washington's COVID-19 vaccination rate, but coach still finds hesitancy 'befuddling'
Mike Jones, USA TODAYPublished 2:46 p.m. ET Aug. 2, 2021

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ASHBURN, Va. — After a frustrating first week of training camp in which seven of his players — including three starters — landed on the COVID-19 reserve list as his roster maintained one of the lowest vaccination rates in the NFL, Washington Football Team coach Ron Rivera entered Monday’s practice with heightened optimism.
On Sunday, the organization again offered its players vaccinations at team headquarters, and Rivera reported that an encouraging number of his charges followed his urging and received the shot.
“We’re in a good spot. Yesterday was very, very effective for us,” Rivera told USA TODAY Sports.
Rivera, who has preached the importance of COVID-19 vaccinations, believes his message is starting to get through to some previously conflicted players. He also predicts that Washington’s numbers will continue to increase as he and fellow team officials encourage players to take advantage of the vaccine as an opportunity to safeguard themselves and teammates. Any potential outbreak could threaten their health and also put the team at risk of an interruption to the season and potential forfeiture of games.


Rivera said that based on conversations he has had, moderate vaccination numbers and the health and safety and competitive disadvantage implications of an outbreak weighs heavily on all NFL head coaches this preseason.
“It is (stressful). We all feel that way,” he said. “But I know there are good numbers out there, and we’re moving in that direction, so we’re feeling good about that.”
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Washington Football Team head coach Ron Rivera looks on during training camp at Bon Secours Washington Football Team Training Center. (Photo: Scott Taetsch, USA TODAY Sports)

Rivera declined to reveal Washington’s vaccination rate. But a person familiar with the information told USA TODAY Sports that after opening camp with just 60% of its players having received at least one shot, Washington now has a mark of better than 70%. The NFL's overall player vaccination rate is close to 90%.
As of Monday, Washington's starting wide receiver Curtis Samuel, All-Pro right guard Brandon Scherff and starting nose tackle Daron Payne topped the list of Washington players on COVID-19 reserve. Key rotational defensive lineman Matt Ioannidis and offensive linemen Cornelius Lucas and David Sharpe rounded out the list.


Although hopeful that the numbers continue to increase, Rivera concedes that a 100% vaccination mark may be unrealistic.
“I know some guys have dropped anchor, they dug their hole and they’re staying there,” Rivera said. “If that continues, then we’re going into the season with protocols. Unless the team gets 100% vaccination, going in, there’s going to be protocols and you have to be aware.”
League protocol for unvaccinated players includes daily COVID-19 testing, masks at the team facility and during travel, physical distancing at the facility, quarantines after high-risk exposures, a 15-player limit in the weight room, the prohibition of eating meals with teammates in the cafeteria, banning of sauna usageand restrictions that prevent them from leaving the team hotel even for meals or visits with family members during road trips.
Rivera, a cancer survivor who is immunodeficient, has used his own health risks as a talking point when discussing vaccinations with players. He has learned some of his players, because of their upbringings, have a strong distrust of government and medical authorities.
"There’s a little bit of history that goes on behind this stuff and so I respect our players," Rivera said. "I don’t tell them what to do. I let them make their point, and I make a counterpoint. I don’t get into arguments with them. I don’t get into these heated debates. I just get into a discussion, I’m there to listen and give my opinion, and that’s what I can do.”
“It’s unfortunate but it’s a microcosm of our society right now,” Rivera continued. “It’s befuddling when you have a chance to have your freedom and you’re not taking advantage of it because of one reason or another, and to me, to not take advantage of it because of the disinformation. That, to me, is what takes our freedom away is who you’re listening to. Are you listening to the right person? Are you listening to the right source? ... I think you have too many talking heads who don’t know the science, who don’t know what’s truly going on.”
 
Vikings place three QBs, including Kirk Cousins, on reserve/COVID-19 list
Published: Aug 02, 2021 at 01:16 PM
Nick Shook
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The Vikings will begin their second week of training camp without the majority of their signal-callers due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
Minnesota placed quarterbacks Kirk Cousins, Kellen Mond and Nate Stanley on the reserve/COVID-19 list, the team announced Monday. Rookie receiver Myron Mitchell has also been placed on the list.

The official designations of the trio of quarterbacks left the Vikings with just one experienced passer currently available for practice: Jake Browning. The former Washington Huskies quarterback is fully vaccinated, according to Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, who did not hide his displeasure with those who have chosen to decline vaccination.

Zimmer expressed disappointment Saturday with players on his team who were not vaccinated and reiterated that stance when talking to reporters Monday.

"Some of them just won't do it," he said, via Purple Insider. "Some of the things they read are out there. It's their belief, so whatever they've heard or read or been told. Maybe they don't believe what [NFL chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills] told them either"

Browning will see a significant increase in reps as long as the other three quarterbacks remain on the COVID-19 list. The Vikings are also planning on signing quarterback Case Cookus, NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported Monday. Pelissero reported the Vikings also worked out Cole McDonald, who could be an option depending on how Browning and Cookus perform. Not done there, the Vikings claimed former Patriots quarterback Danny Etling, Pelisserro reported. Drafted in the 2018 seventh round by the Pats, Etling has spent time with New England along with the Falcons and Seahawks organizations, but has yet to play a regular-season down.

Zimmer also said Monday that it's a consideration to have an emergency quarterback quarantined during the season in case of a similar situation occurring during the regular season, but that will depend on how many QBs end up vaccinated, per the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Mond recently tested positive for COVID-19, and Cousins and Stanley are considered high-risk close contacts under the NFL and NFLPA's COVID-19 protocols, leading to their removal from activities Saturday.

High-risk close contacts are required to isolate upon learning of their previous contact with an individual who has tested positive for COVID-19, per protocol, and will remain isolated until PCR virus test results are negative. Fully vaccinated individuals are also tested daily for three days following exposure when considered a close contact, but are not considered to be high-risk, meaning they are not required to isolate.

"I think we could put this thing to bed if we could all do this," Zimmer said of COVID-19 vaccinations, via the Pioneer Press.
 

Source: Minnesota Vikings QB Kellen Mond tests positive for COVID-19; Kirk Cousins a high-risk close contact
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  • Courtney CroninESPN Staff Writer
EAGAN, Minn. -- The Minnesota Vikings were without multiple players for Saturday evening's practice at TCO Stadium due to a COVID-19 interruption.

Vikings rookie quarterback Kellen Mond tested positive for COVID-19, a league source confirmed to ESPN, and as a result, fellow quarterbacks Kirk Cousins and Nate Stanley -- both deemed high-risk close contacts, per a source -- missed Saturday's practice and will have to abide by a five-day quarantine before returning to training camp.

According to the protocols put together this summer by the NFL and players' union, high-risk close contacts designate that a player is not fully vaccinated.

"You know, quite honestly, after everything we went through last year, I'm not surprised one bit," coach Mike Zimmer said when asked how he felt about missing players due to COVID issues. "I am disappointed that this happened. I'm frustrated, not just with my football players who didn't get vaccinated, but I'm frustrated with everybody [who didn't]. We'll just do the best we can. It's just disappointing."

Jake Browning, who is fully vaccinated according to Zimmer, was Minnesota's only quarterback available for Saturday's practice. Browning signed with the Vikings as an undrafted free agent in 2019 and was a member of Minnesota's practice squad the past two seasons. He is competing for the backup job behind Cousins.

"Jake's really smart," Zimmer said. "He's vaccinated, that helps to be the backup. So as we move forward here, he's gonna get a ton of reps tonight. ... He's out there, he's available, that's important. It's important to be available when you're playing football, a team sport."

Zimmer did not specify how many additional players would have to miss Saturday's practice and if the Vikings would be placing anyone on the COVID-19 reserve list. The Vikings coach did, however, say the team did not consider cancelling the evening practice.

"Something like this happens a day before a game that has a chance to get you to the playoffs or something like that ... this Delta variant is rough," Zimmer said. "You can see the cases going up every single day now. That's why, for the sake of everybody's health, I think [getting vaccinated is] important. But some people don't understand, I guess."

NFL Network was first to report Mond's positive test for COVID-19 and Cousins' high-risk close contact designation.
 

This shit is sad af. We have another outbreak at work. I just found out that one of my subordinates was lying about being vaccinated. This cac almost died last year and fixed his mouth to tell me that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. Nigga. Wtf is fox telling these people?
 
We're all just hoping Nagy doesn't find a way to fuck this up. He's calling plays again this year (after giving it up late last season), and by the sound of some of the drills in training camp, already getting too cute and outsmarting himself.

Dude is always over-compensating. After his first year when we went 13-3 but lost to Philly on the double-doink Parkey kick, Nagy had some extra weirdo kicker competition and basically made a summer long spectacle. That same summer, dude refused to play ANY starters that entire preseason, including Trubisky who clearly needed all the reps he could get, on some super entitled shit. And Nagy's offense never got on track and still hasn't found an identify in 2 years since.

This offseason, he claims practices are now gonna be harder then they've ever been and how we're gonna see it. So he's trying to go from more players coach to screamer, and setting up these weird instances where he stops drill work, brings the team together and has them rep out a situation as a team completely out of the blue. He says no one knows when its coming, just to break up the monotony and bring the team together.

Dude seems lile he's grasping at straws to me. Do not trust him with the offense.
It's all on Nagy now, he got no more excuses. What's funny is the players seem to want to play for him. Defense and special teams have been OK. They finally found a kicker. The main problem has been the offense no matter who has been QB. He has better WR's, better depth at RB and the OL seems to be improving, it's on him to start scoring points. From what I've been reading from Bears reporters are Dalton looks solid, they say you can tell he's a vet. They say Fields looks like a rookie but you see the talent. It's just a matter of time. Compared to last year they said it's clearly a difference with these current QB's than last year with Trubisky and Foles. Dalton and Fields are an upgrade at the QB position. Reporters also said the defense is really looking good especially the D line.
 
It's all on Nagy now, he got no more excuses. What's funny is the players seem to want to play for him. Defense and special teams have been OK. They finally found a kicker. The main problem has been the offense no matter who has been QB. He has better WR's, better depth at RB and the OL seems to be improving, it's on him to start scoring points. From what I've been reading from Bears reporters are Dalton looks solid, they say you can tell he's a vet. They say Fields looks like a rookie but you see the talent. It's just a matter of time. Compared to last year they said it's clearly a difference with these current QB's than last year with Trubisky and Foles. Dalton and Fields are an upgrade at the QB position. Reporters also said the defense is really looking good especially the D line.

It's def on Nagy and everyone knows it now. Past years they've blamed/ scapegoated/ ran off an OL coach, an OC, a QB Coach, QBs, OL, RBs.....all the faces have changed except his and we still haven't kicked out an average offense. Nagy has mad confidence (hubris) in himself, but based on the lack of results, that shit is unfounded.

Think about it: His claim to fame/credentials for being hired was that he was OC for KC for a season. And that was a season where KC lost in the first round of the playoffs as the favorite. Nagy leaves and they win a SB...

I know I'm hating, but I'm still pissed that he's been wasting a SB defense during his tenure. Dude just doesn't get it. He's too busy trying to look cute and put together some explosive offense while we still can't even do the average things consistently yet. And have no offensive identity, or bread and butter plays to rely on. Going into YEAR 4.

He also had no business taking play calling back. For 1: Lazor was doing a better job. For 2: We need this dude to be a full time HC who spends more time with all 3 phases and actually pays attention to the entire game on Sundays. I dunno how many times I heard him say in the post game presser that he "didnt see it, I'll have to look at the film" (like the Wims fight v. NO, or plays that should have been challenged). He spends too much time with offense when he's got Lazor and for Fillippo that could do all that shit...

Like I said before: He'd rather be an OC with veto power than HC.


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It's def on Nagy and everyone knows it now. Past years they've blamed/ scapegoated/ ran off an OL coach, an OC, a QB Coach, QBs, OL, RBs.....all the faces have changed except his and we still haven't kicked out an average offense. Nagy has mad confidence (hubris) in himself, but based on the lack of results, that shit is unfounded.

Think about it: His claim to fame/credentials for being hired was that he was OC for KC for a season. And that was a season where KC lost in the first round of the playoffs as the favorite. Nagy leaves and they win a SB...

I know I'm hating, but I'm still pissed that he's been wasting a SB defense during his tenure. Dude just doesn't get it. He's too busy trying to look cute and put together some explosive offense while we still can't even do the average things consistently yet. And have no offensive identity, or bread and butter plays to rely on. Going into YEAR 4.

He also had no business taking play calling back. For 1: Lazor was doing a better job. For 2: We need this dude to be a full time HC who spends more time with all 3 phases and actually pays attention to the entire game on Sundays. I dunno how many times I heard him say in the post game presser that he "didnt see it, I'll have to look at the film" (like the Wims fight v. NO, or plays that should have been challenged). He spends too much time with offense when he's got Lazor and for Fillippo that could do all that shit...

Like I said before: He'd rather be an OC with veto power than HC.


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All points are valid, you gets no arguments from me. It's on him now especially since he's going to be calling plays again, I have no problem with the plays, he schemed a lot of wide open receivers which Trubisky always overthrew. The problem is he has no rhythm to the offense and he does not show a commitment to running the football. When Lazor took over play calling was better, he ran the ball a lot more which sets up the play action pass. We shall see if he's gotten better or is it the same ol thing. They put on pads tomorrow and the Dolphins are coming in to scrimmage later this week or next week I think.
 
Two Green Bay Packers Rookies Have Suddenly Retired Within Days of Each Other
August 3, 2021
By Darrelle Lincoln

The Green Bay Packers initially had an Aaron Rodgers problem, but now they seem to have a first year player problem as yet another player has decided to end their career before it actually began.

Last week, Green Bay offensive lineman Simon Stepaniak, who was taken in the sixth round of the 2020 NFL Draft, retired as he was coming off ACL surgery. The former Indiana Hoosiers offensive lineman didn’t play in a single game during his rookie season.




 
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