Do you Believe in UFOs

[EPDC]

They may view us as an ant colony, but consider that human beings have been studying ants since biblical times. We have spent millions of dollars and man hours trying to figure out how they communicate with each other and if we can communicate with them.

Consider what would happen if a colony of ants was seen holding up a cardboard sign that said "take us to your leader" in several different languages. Maybe they have a vinyl record containing ant music or the sound of earthworm makes when it burrows beneath their hill. Communicating with ants would become the biggest scientific priority in the world overnight!

This is exactly what humans did when we launched the Voyager probe.

Yet somehow in the last 40 years this thing has been hurtling through space nobody has ever tried to communicate back.

It's not because they won't. It's because they can't.

And who says they haven't also been studying humans since biblical times?

Humans send probes and other humans into space.

Ants send other ants (winged) into human environments and homes. How do we know they aren't trying to communicate with us whenever we see a swarm? We don't think of it as communication because we view them as pests.

When I see a winged ant in my patio, I squish it or spray home defense. I'm not thinking it's trying to send a message.

Aliens may think the same about us.

We're lucky they aren't using home defense on us yet...

 

[Dannyblueyes]

And who says they haven't also been studying humans since biblical times?

Humans send probes and other humans into space.

Ants send other ants (winged) into human environments and homes. How do we know they aren't trying to communicate with us whenever we see a swarm? We don't think of it as communication because we view them as pests.

When I see a winged ant in my patio, I squish it or spray home defense. I'm not thinking it's trying to send a message.

Aliens may think the same about us.

We're lucky they aren't using home defense on us yet...

I think we've been a lot less ambiguous than the ants have been

 

[sammyjax]

through space nobody has ever tried to communicate back.

It's not because they won't. It's because they can't.

You left out about 14 "personally, I thinks", white man.

 

[black again]

...Which is exactly why these UFO sightings are not legitimate.

If this was the work of extraterrestrial intelligence the Pentagon would not be releasing footage and telling the country they're not sure what it is. Instead they would either say nothing or bring in a talking head scientist that explains it as some unknown celestial phenomenon.

It's safe to say that we could trust the government to keep this completely classified. But what about the aliens themselves?

Consider that human beings have had the ability to conduct InterContinental radio communications for the last 100 years. Not with devices made in a top secret government lab, but with homebrewed ham radios built and operated in a civilian basement.

It stands to reason that any civilization advanced enough to travel to earth on a spaceship would also be advanced enough to intercept these radio waves and communicate with whoever they want.

That is why I strongly suspect that we are the most advanced creatures in the solar system and probably the most advanced for a few solar systems beyond this one.

Which solar systems are you referring to and where'd you get your info on these systems?

We're JUST getting to the point of being able to find planets orbiting other stars, but we have VERY limited info about these planets and know NOTHING of the technological advancement of any of it's potential inhabitants.

To my knowledge, we haven't even mapped another solar system, let alone come to terms with how many planets are in our own...there's still talk/theory of a planet X in a very deep orbit around our own sun.

We all believe what we believe, but to think we're somehow the most advanced, because nobody has reached out to us is a stretch.

To think we're the most advanced over a few light years worth of space is

The authoritative language used here is a trip lol

This is the kinda reasoning why we WOULDN'T BE contacted.

 

[tallblacknyc]

...Which is exactly why these UFO sightings are not legitimate.

If this was the work of extraterrestrial intelligence the Pentagon would not be releasing footage and telling the country they're not sure what it is. Instead they would either say nothing or bring in a talking head scientist that explains it as some unknown celestial phenomenon.

It's safe to say that we could trust the government to keep this completely classified. But what about the aliens themselves?

Consider that human beings have had the ability to conduct InterContinental radio communications for the last 100 years. Not with devices made in a top secret government lab, but with homebrewed ham radios built and operated in a civilian basement.

It stands to reason that any civilization advanced enough to travel to earth on a spaceship would also be advanced enough to intercept these radio waves and communicate with whoever they want.

That is why I strongly suspect that we are the most advanced creatures in the solar system and probably the most advanced for a few solar systems beyond this one.

Most advanced creatures lmaoooo.. we not even top dog on earth... can we fly? Are we the strongest animal? The fastest animal? Are we the best swimmers? Do we have the best vision? Do we have the best hearing? The best smell? Climb trees the best? Climb mountains the best? We not top 10 in any of those categories.. only thing we top at is destroying the planet and fucking up nature.. outside of that we would get our ass handed in various competitions against diff animals.. so when you look at that perspective no way the galaxy is beneath us in advancements

 

[tallblacknyc]

Danny talking about we the most advanced in the galaxy.. throw his ass in the mid of the jungle during dinner time and let’s see how advanced he is and how long b4 he becomes a snack to various predators

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Most advanced creatures lmaoooo.. we not even top dog on earth... can we fly? Are we the strongest animal? The fastest animal? Are we the best swimmers? Do we have the best vision? Do we have the best hearing? The best smell? Climb trees the best? Climb mountains the best? We not top 10 in any of those categories.. only thing we top at is destroying the planet and fucking up nature.. outside of that we would get our ass handed in various competitions against diff animals.. so when you look at that perspective no way the galaxy is beneath us in advancements

How many animals have developed mathematics, a written language, currency, or really any inventions at all?

Humans true strength comes from our mind and reflective consciousness. We are completely unmatched by any other creature on earth in this regard. That's why we've been able to go from clay huts to mansions while beavers are still building dams the same way they did 5,000 years ago.

 

[blackbull1970]

U.S. Intel Report On UFOs Headed To Congress

Next month, U.S. Intelligence agencies are expected to deliver a report to Congress revealing how the Pentagon analyzes data from UFO sightings. The report comes as government officials confirm that viral footage of a mysterious flying object spotted in July 2019 is legitimate. Jeremy Corbell, filmmaker and director of the documentary “Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers”, joins American Voices with Alicia Menendez.

 

[tallblacknyc]

How many animals have developed mathematics, a written language, currency, or really any inventions at all?

Humans true strength comes from our mind and reflective consciousness. We are completely unmatched by any other creature on earth in this regard. That's why we've been able to go from clay huts to mansions while beavers are still building dams the same way they did 5,000 years ago.

Various animals can detect when certain natural disasters are coming just off sense.. most animals can walk , survive, kill within 24 hrs to a few weeks once they born.. how long does it take a human to walk? Grab, speak, etc?.. animals have been able to communicate with each other meanwhile humans pretty much can’t comprehend anything they say... what do humans know about the oceans? Yet there’s probably million of species underwater chilling and could tell you about a lot of stuff going on

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Danny talking about we the most advanced in the galaxy.. throw his ass in the mid of the jungle during dinner time and let’s see how advanced he is and how long b4 he becomes a snack to various predators

I never said we were the most advanced in the galaxy. That would be ridiculous.

However, out of all of the planet so we have visited inside and outside of our solar system Earth is the only one with sentient life. What's more, there is no sign that these planets have been visited by other civilizations either.

You want to talk throwing my ass in a jungle to see if I would survive? There are human civilizations that have been doing this for thousands of years as a coming-of-age ritual. If you make it out of the jungle and back to your village you are respected as a man. If you don't you die.

After the second world war there was a group of Japanese soldiers that spent decades living in the Philippine jungles. They spent that time attacking animals and humans from nearby villages because they didn't know that the war was over.

By contrast, take a wild animal and put them in the middle of a human civilization and see how long they last. Most of them wouldn't last 5 minutes unless they were in a zoo.

 

[tallblacknyc]

How many animals have developed mathematics, a written language, currency, or really any inventions at all?

Humans true strength comes from our mind and reflective consciousness. We are completely unmatched by any other creature on earth in this regard. That's why we've been able to go from clay huts to mansions while beavers are still building dams the same way they did 5,000 years ago.

Humans are the only animal that will continuously fall for the same trap even when we know something is harmful for us... put a bear trap on the ground or a mouse trap.. the first few guinea pigs will fall for it but after others observe the repercussions they will avoid the trap like the plague... let’s talk about drugs etc there’s history on the poison that drugs,liqs, cigs are and people are well aware of them yet continuously use them even though they know it’s bad for their health.. we are the only animal that would continue to do something like that.. other animals would completely avoid the poison.. there goes your advanced intelligence theory on humans

 

[black again]

How many animals have developed mathematics, a written language, currency, or really any inventions at all?

Humans true strength comes from our mind and reflective consciousness. We are completely unmatched by any other creature on earth in this regard. That's why we've been able to go from clay huts to mansions while beavers are still building dams the same way they did 5,000 years ago.

For once, try to get out of your way of thinking and look at this from another perspective.

You place so much importance on superficial things, but animals have been around for millions of years before us and haven't needed any of that stuff.

Maybe they're wayyy smarter than we are...just like so many tribes around the globe, in the past and some in the present.
The ability to make cars and the junk we buy doesn't make us happier. Often, we become a slave to those things.

The way you think about animals is the same way white people thought about indigenous people when they first made contact... interesting coincidence.

 

[sammyjax]

out of all of the planet so we have visited inside and outside of our solar system Earth is the only one with sentient life. What's more, there is no sign that these planets have been visited by other civilizations either.

You are putting this shit in terms that the scientists who study the shit don't even use

What we have detected vs what is

And you don't even know wtf we've detected. Ain't nobody cc'ing you on shit

And I know you know that so what you're doing is trying to assert YOUR position as THE position

Please, gtfohwtbs

 

[tallblacknyc]

I never said we were the most advanced in the galaxy. That would be ridiculous.

However, out of all of the planet so we have visited inside and outside of our solar system Earth is the only one with sentient life. What's more, there is no sign that these planets have been visited by other civilizations either.

You want to talk throwing my ass in a jungle to see if I would survive? There are human civilizations that have been doing this for thousands of years as a coming-of-age ritual. If you make it out of the jungle and back to your village you are respected as a man. If you don't you die.

After the second world war there was a group of Japanese soldiers that spent decades living in the Philippine jungles. They spent that time attacking animals and humans from nearby villages because they didn't know that the war was over.

By contrast, take a wild animal and put them in the middle of a human civilization and see how long they last. Most of them wouldn't last 5 minutes unless they were in a zoo.

I didn’t talk about humans I talked about “you”.. many cocky people talk about others accomplishments like they were the 1s that did it themselves.. don’t talk about another mans success talk about yours.. there are great humans but that dosent mean you fill those shoes.. that’s why I said throw your ass in the jungle and let’s see all that cocky shit you talking will be displayed..will you be a good representative of the human race or just some animals meal for the night.. me and you both know u’ll be brunch in the jungle.. as far as other planets how you figure there’s no other life? We don’t even know everything about our oceans you think I’m suppose to believe we know everything about Neptune? Fuck outta here.. we don’t even fully understand this planet so I know they don’t know shit about others

 

[black again]

I never said we were the most advanced in the galaxy. That would be ridiculous.

However, out of all of the planet so we have visited inside and outside of our solar system Earth is the only one with sentient life. What's more, there is no sign that these planets have been visited by other civilizations either.

You want to talk throwing my ass in a jungle to see if I would survive? There are human civilizations that have been doing this for thousands of years as a coming-of-age ritual. If you make it out of the jungle and back to your village you are respected as a man. If you don't you die.

After the second world war there was a group of Japanese soldiers that spent decades living in the Philippine jungles. They spent that time attacking animals and humans from nearby villages because they didn't know that the war was over.

By contrast, take a wild animal and put them in the middle of a human civilization and see how long they last. Most of them wouldn't last 5 minutes unless they were in a zoo.

The idea that we'll recognize alien life, if and when we encounter it is funny.

You say that we're prolly the most advanced in this and the next few solar systems, but NOT in the galaxy.

Where the hell do you get all of this info you're dropping?

 

[tallblacknyc]

Where the hell do you get all of this info you're dropping?

His white side.. if they think it it’s got to be true.. no facts needed, no studies, no personal experience, just wake up with a random thought and it’s true cause I thought it

 

[Dannyblueyes]

I didn’t talk about humans I talked about “you”.. many cocky people talk about others accomplishments like they were the 1s that did it themselves.. don’t talk about another mans success talk about yours.. there are great humans but that dosent mean you fill those shoes.. that’s why I said throw your ass in the jungle and let’s see all that cocky shit you talking will be displayed..will you be a good representative of the human race or just some animals meal for the night.. me and you both know u’ll be brunch in the jungle.. as far as other planets how you figure there’s no other life? We don’t even know everything about our oceans you think I’m suppose to believe we know everything about Neptune? Fuck outta here.. we don’t even fully understand this planet so I know they don’t know shit about others

If you or I were trained the same way these jungle survivalists were then it's entirely possible that we could survive. However neither of us have that training because it really isn't necessary.

Also, if you can talk endlessly about another man's failure than I have no reason not to talk about another man's success.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

The idea that we'll recognize alien life, if and when we encounter it is funny.

You say that we're prolly the most advanced in this and the next few solar systems, but NOT in the galaxy.

Where the hell do you get all of this info you're dropping?

I was very clear about how I came to those assumptions. If you don't agree then challenge them. Leave the ad hominem shit alone.

 

[tallblacknyc]

If you or I were trained the same way these jungle survivalists were then it's entirely possible that we could survive. However neither of us have that training because it really isn't necessary.

Also, if you can talk endlessly about another man's failure than I have no reason not to talk about another man's success.

Why do you need training.. lots of animals have a natural instinct to survive and kill.. a few mins ago you were bragging about being advanced and now you hoping for training and hoping to survive.. see how once you throw reality in somebody face the cocky talk slows down and goes away.. you said animals couldn’t survive around humans yet many places are known to have rodents, birds, as well as other life such as bugs/insects living amongst humans..mice live better around humans than humans would probably live in a land full of mice

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Why do you need training.. lots of animals have a natural instinct to survive and kill.. a few mins ago you were bragging about being advanced and now you hoping for training and hoping to survive.. see how once you throw reality in somebody face the cocky talk slows down and goes away.. you said animals couldn’t survive around humans yet many places are known to have rodents, birds, as well as other life such as bugs/insects living amongst humans..mice live better around humans than humans would probably live in a land full of mice

I see where you're coming from.

if I can't personally survive the jungle in my current state then to you the millions of people who have been doing exactly that for millenniums don't count.

In other words, your argument has little to do with with what I said and instead is based on who I am and what you perceive as cockiness.

On the other hand, you'll take those same arguments and exaggerate them to the extreme. For instance, I said that it's unlikely that any planet within the nearby solar systems have the same technological prowess we do. You interpreted that as "we're the only intelligent life in the galaxy."

Again, I said that the animals that would eat us in the jungle wouldn't last five minutes in a human civilization, which is true. Yet you interpreted that as "no animal can live amongst humans." which is completely bonkers.

All said, what could have been an interesting and lively debate has degraded into straw man and ad hominem attacks. I'm done with it.

 

[tallblacknyc]

I see where you're coming from.

if I can't personally survive the jungle in my current state then to you the millions of people who have been doing exactly that for millenniums don't count.

In other words, your argument has little to do with with what I said and instead is based on who I am and what you perceive as cockiness.

On the other hand, you'll take those same arguments and exaggerate them to the extreme. For instance, I said that it's unlikely that any planet within the nearby solar systems have the same technological prowess we do. You interpreted that as "we're the only intelligent life in the galaxy."

Again, I said that the animals that would eat us in the jungle wouldn't last five minutes in a human civilization, which is true. Yet you interpreted that as "no animal can live amongst humans." which is completely bonkers.

All said, what could have been an interesting and lively debate has degraded into straw man and ad hominem attacks. I'm done with it.

Or maybe you came in here with some absurd comments and everybody is looking at you like does this dude comprehend the words he’s typing

 

[black again]

I was very clear about how I came to those assumptions. If you don't agree then challenge them. Leave the ad hominem shit alone.

Herein lies the problem...you want me to prove your points?

You were so clear how you came about these assumptions, that nobody else saw your reasoning either.

Unless you have some access to classified info you're not sharing, you know no more than anyone else here...cuz all you did was make unsupported statements about places you have no knowledge on.

Prove me wrong and I'll happily apologize..

How do you know (have proof..not what YOU BELIEVE) our level of tech advancement over ANY other planet, whether in this solar system or anywhere else?

 

[black again]

Or maybe you came in here with some absurd comments and everybody is looking at you like does this dude comprehend the words he’s typing

Damn bruh, why you so hard on dude..you made him run home.

I guess If someone wanna make asinine statements, be prepared to back em up, or run when you get called on em..

The choice is yours.

Ol @Dannyblueyes used a hella weak excuse to get away from tryna defend moronic statements..like he got info even scientists don't have...matter of fact, this discussion never even got heated, but he took the easy way out.

I'm starting to notice a trend how mofos on the board find ways to get outta taking that verbal beatdown.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Damn bruh, why you so hard on dude..you made him run home.

I guess If someone wanna make asinine statements, be prepared to back em up, or run when you get called on em..

The choice is yours.

Ol @Dannyblueyes used a hella weak excuse to get away from tryna defend moronic statements..like he got info even scientists don't have...matter of fact, this discussion never even got heated, but he took the easy way out.

I'm starting to notice a trend how mofos on the board find ways to get outta taking that verbal beatdown.

This is a humble thread.. we all have pride in the human race but we also have the capability to acknowledge we are not alone and definitely more likely not the ultimate supreme being throughout the galaxy.. we all humble enough to say that except Danny boy.. that pure arrogance with absurd speculations on the galaxy, tech, the food chain was crazy out of line.. he kept going on and on like without a shadow of a doubt his comments were pure facts.. it was like yo dude what are you basing your comments on and what have you as a person did to prove your statements.. that’s what rubbed people in this thread wrong

 

[black again]

This is a humble thread.. we all have pride in the human race but we also have the capability to acknowledge we are not alone and definitely more likely not the ultimate supreme being throughout the galaxy.. we all humble enough to say that except Danny boy.. that pure arrogance with absurd speculations on the galaxy, tech, the food chain was crazy out of line.. he kept going on and on like without a shadow of a doubt his comments were pure facts.. it was like yo dude what are you basing your comments on and what have you as a person did to prove your statements.. that’s what rubbed people in this thread wrong

There's an ol saying that says...

Let people talk long enough and they'll show you who they are.

Dude got comfortable here and let his white arrogance show.

 

[tallblacknyc]

There's an ol saying that says...

Let people talk long enough and they'll show you who they are.

Dude got comfortable here and let his white arrogance show.

That last sentence you said is literally the summary of his appearance in this thread

 

[black again]

That last sentence you said is literally the summary of his appearance in this thread

Thing is, I don't think he's a bad guy...don't know him, but don't think he's a troll per se. But like alotta cats on this board, they forget there's all kinda mofos on this board.

You have to assume that someone knows as much as you do about any subject.

I'm no astrophysicist, but I know the statements he made couldn't be backed up with facts.

Too many dudes on here think you can try to pass BS and not get called on it. It's like they get in a debate and then realize that they've gotta try to defend a ridiculous statement and get flustered.

Sheeeid, I live for calling out BS.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Thing is, I don't think he's a bad guy...don't know him, but don't think he's a troll per se. But like alotta cats on this board, they forget there's all kinda mofos on this board.

You have to assume that someone knows as much as you do about any subject.

I'm no astrophysicist, but I know the statements he made couldn't be backed up with facts.

Too many dudes on here think you can try to pass BS and not get called on it. It's like they get in a debate and then realize that they've gotta try to defend a ridiculous statement and get flustered.

Sheeeid, I live for calling out BS.

I was going to stay away, but if you two jokers are going to take a whole half page to talk about me once I'm gone I'll bite.

You and TBNYC take the position that we are surrounded by alien civilizations far superior to ours. Civilizations that view us with malice and/or indifference. Yet somehow they've been communicating with our governments.

How do y'all know ANY of that!

Admit it. You're just as clueless as I am.

My assumptions (and I was honest that they were assumptions) are based on things that are known. If you want to challenge those conclusions that's fine.

However when these challenges are based on my tone, my race, or extreme exaggerations of what I said then what's the point of continuing the conversation?

There you go Now that I've bitten go ahead and say how this response reflects my whiteness. But when you do please admit that not saying anything back would have also reflected my whiteness.

Because at the end of the day BGOL is just like any other social media dumpster fire. Agree with the masses and you're the smartest in the room. Disagree and you're either a sellout or a CAC.

That's why I've been backing away from these boards and discussions.

 

[sammyjax]

Because at the end of the day BGOL is just like any other social media dumpster fire. Agree with the masses and you're the smartest in the room. Disagree and you're either a sellout or a CAC.

That's why I've been backing away from these boards and discussions.

I don't have that experience. Think about why you may have it often enough to leave multiple boards.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

I don't have that experience. Think about why you may have it often enough to leave multiple boards.

Because unlike you I rarely jump in on threads where I agree with everyone.

Also, because most people don't see how dangerous social media is becoming.

 

[sammyjax]

Because unlike you I rarely jump in on threads where I agree with everyone.

Also, because most people don't see how dangerous social media is becoming.

More authoritative talk out of your ass. That you would state that like you got data on my posting habits is funny and mirrors the tone of your other statements in this thread. It's also incorrect lol

Also...the conversation about the current and growing dangers of social media has been a thing for years. They've made multiple fucking Netflix movies about it for fucks sake. So again, more examples of you saying shit like it's fact when it is not.

But it's everybody else that's fucking up right?

 

[black again]

Cool story...I'd still be fucked up over it, tho.

Did your mom ever say if that was her first experience with UFOs or did you ever see anything again? Just curious if either of you were revisited..

Do you ever wonder what they wanted..were they studying you..doesn't seem like there was any unexplained loss of time.

Shits fascinating..

I saw something I can't explain in the past year or so...

I'm out on my deck around 5 in the morning. I was just stargazing when high in the sky I see what appears to be something like lil dots moving.

The first thing I noticed was there weren't any lights on the dots. Then I noticed there were several flying a straight path. It was like someone was shooting BBs.. stop and then continue firing them. This went in for a couple of minutes.

A few nights later, I was up and saw them again...same deal.

I have no idea what that was. I just know there were a lot of them going in a straight line, they seemed to be very high in the sky, and no lights.

I've had these same thoughts about a god, but it's also the reason I don't believe in god the way most people do.

Would an omnipotent, all-knowing being have human traits? Would a good need the same things we need, in terms of entertainment, would they get bored?

I don't have the answers to this, but I definitely understand what you're saying..

One of my favorite lines is god has a funny sense of humor.

Which solar systems are you referring to and where'd you get your info on these systems?

We're JUST getting to the point of being able to find planets orbiting other stars, but we have VERY limited info about these planets and know NOTHING of the technological advancement of any of it's potential inhabitants.

To my knowledge, we haven't even mapped another solar system, let alone come to terms with how many planets are in our own...there's still talk/theory of a planet X in a very deep orbit around our own sun.

We all believe what we believe, but to think we're somehow the most advanced, because nobody has reached out to us is a stretch.

To think we're the most advanced over a few light years worth of space is





This is the kinda reasoning why we WOULDN'T BE contacted.

For once, try to get out of your way of thinking and look at this from another perspective.

You place so much importance on superficial things, but animals have been around for millions of years before us and haven't needed any of that stuff.

Maybe they're wayyy smarter than we are...just like so many tribes around the globe, in the past and some in the present.
The ability to make cars and the junk we buy doesn't make us happier. Often, we become a slave to those things.

The way you think about animals is the same way white people thought about indigenous people when they first made contact... interesting coincidence.

The idea that we'll recognize alien life, if and when we encounter it is funny.

You say that we're prolly the most advanced in this and the next few solar systems, but NOT in the galaxy.

Where the hell do you get all of this info you're dropping?

@Dannyblueyes, I made this as easy as possible for you.

I've posted all my posts from the first 2 pages...I think it's 5 posts.

Please show me where I made ANY statements regarding what you wrote here

"You and TBNYC take the position that we are surrounded by alien civilizations far superior to ours. Civilizations that view us with malice and/or indifference. Yet somehow they've been communicating with our governments"

Guess what? You can't, cuz I never made any remarks about that.

The crux of our disagreement is that YOU were the one who made wild statements backed up only by your beliefs.

I'm not the only one who noticed it...

In the last post I made before you decided you had enough, I kindly asked you to PROVE your point about...

"That is why I strongly suspect that we are the most advanced creatures in the solar system and probably the most advanced for a few solar systems beyond this one"

Again, please share where you got this info... ESPECIALLY explain how you ascertained which few solar systems beyond this one you're referring to..

As far as that whining playing the white victim...miss me with that.

I look forward to your response

 

[Dannyblueyes]

@Dannyblueyes, I made this as easy as possible for you.

I've posted all my posts from the first 2 pages...I think it's 5 posts.

Please show me where I made ANY statements regarding what you wrote here

"You and TBNYC take the position that we are surrounded by alien civilizations far superior to ours. Civilizations that view us with malice and/or indifference. Yet somehow they've been communicating with our governments"

Guess what? You can't, cuz I never made any remarks about that.

The crux of our disagreement is that YOU were the one who made wild statements backed up only by your beliefs.

I'm not the only one who noticed it...

In the last post I made before you decided you had enough, I kindly asked you to PROVE your point about...

"That is why I strongly suspect that we are the most advanced creatures in the solar system and probably the most advanced for a few solar systems beyond this one"

Again, please share where you got this info... ESPECIALLY explain how you ascertained which few solar systems beyond this one you're referring to..

As far as that whining playing the white victim...miss me with that.

I look forward to your response

I already said why I strongly SUSPECT that we are the only intelligent life in this solar system and probably the next few over.

I hate repeating myself, but I SUSPECT this because not only have we not seen evidence of sentient life living on any planet we have visited, but we haven't seen evidence of any other visitors either.

Therefore I've concluded that any alien species more advanced than our own probably lives so far away from us that Earth isn't even on their radar.

If you have evidence or opinions to the contrary I'm all ears.

 

[black again]

I already said why I strongly SUSPECT that we are the only intelligent life in this solar system and probably the next few over.

I hate repeating myself, but I SUSPECT this because not only have we not seen evidence of sentient life living on any planet we have visited, but we haven't seen evidence of any other visitors either.

Therefore I've concluded that any alien species more advanced than our own probably lives so far away from us that Earth isn't even on their radar.

If you have evidence or opinions to the contrary I'm all ears.

First of all, which next two solar systems are you referring to? If we haven't completely looked at this system, how can you make such a statement about your next two systems statement?

We haven't visited ANY planets. We've sent probes to several, but their scope has been limited...the first Mars Rover, Curiosity, while on the planet for 9 years, it's covered only around 20 miles of the surface. That's like landing a probe in the Sahara..a small spot in the Sahara, and claiming there's no life there.

Sure there have been other probes to Mars, but theres wayyyy more that hasn't been explored than has.

Plus, there are dozens of moons of planets, which we haven't begun to look at. There's still the potential for other planets that haven't been discovered yet.

Regarding other sentient life visiting those planets, again, we haven't looked closely enough to make any kind of conclusive statement.

From our limited work, absence of life doesn't mean anything.

I wanna hear more about what info you have on these next few systems, though. Let's focus on that.

You seem to be the only person I've EVER heard of to make ANY reference to what's going on outside of our own solar system.

 

[REDLINE]

There’s too many planets, solar systems and galaxies for us to be the only ones.

We’re not that special.