No, I don't have to pay a penny back. I was so lucky with the city's PPP because the window closed 3 hours after I submitted mine. They only had $20m to give and I was one of the last applicants.
Democrats are pussy ass weak coward hoes. Pathetic spineless party of fuck face losers.
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Liberals making 80-100k in the cities of America look set to get more from Trump than they will from Biden though....
These jackass niggas tried to question me when I told them I'd seen this years ago when I was an op for the democratic party in Nashville. My family is still deep in the game out there but seeing behind the veil was enough for me.
Comparing political parties is like comparing commas v. periods.I still vote for whatever that shit is really worth. At least I can feel like have a right to bitch.
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50 - 50 +1 is not a majority. That majority goes about as far as this man
who is the Senator of the dirt dumb bloody red state of West Virginia.
There is no real 50 to even get to the plus 1. Why can't democrats get that point.
The agenda cannot be far left. It will never pass.
50 - 50 +1 is not a majority. That majority goes about as far as this man
who is the Senator of the dirt dumb bloody red state of West Virginia.
There is no real 50 to even get to the plus 1. Why can't democrats get that point.
The agenda cannot be far left. It will never pass.
Please in 2009 the democrats ran all 3 branches of government and had more than 50 senate seats and they always run this bullshit and act like they are powerless and they need to “walk across the isle with republicans” like Obama was preaching.
It’s all bullshit and people are waking up to there hustle. They know $15 dollar wages, and canceling school debt is not popular with there corporate donor class. So they always come up with excuses. Like it’s McConnell and now it’s Joe manchin.
That’s why Obama lost the house, senate in 2010 in the midterms. Who is going to get excited to vote for you when you promise so many things and come up short. You got trump out left you. You won the senate since January and now we are in March and still have to wait on checks.
You are one loyal ass faggit. I'll give you that.
I am in NYC. 500K for 800 sq ft is a major deal depending on the location considering that real estate is 800-1.3K+ per sq ft in Manhattan.
Keep in mind that certain parts of BK are more expensive than Manhattan. Bay Area rentals/sales are even crazier than NYC. Also, Baltimore is more expensive than Birmingham, Ohio, Tennessee, Kansas, Missouri et al.
Damn, I undershot that shit.I am in NYC. 500K for 800 sq ft is a major deal depending on the location considering that real estate is 800-1.3K+ per sq ft in Manhattan.
Also, Baltimore is more expensive than Birmingham, Ohio, Tennessee, Kansas, Missouri et al.
So making 80k in NYC is like minimum wage. 200k is lower middle class? Jesus.
You adding stalking to your resume? You wanna be troll bitch
Damn, I undershot that shit.
Dont buy into that hype though.
Average black person isnt making 80k in NYC. Probably half that if we are being lucky.
The people saying 80k is minimum wage are rich white kids who move to the city and, much to their chagrin, realize that the 77k a year finance job means they have to live in neighborhoods around a few of "us"
Damn, I undershot that shit.
A ton of people get by on less than 80K but you are right that what is nice money in other cities isn't much in NYC. It just depends on where you live and what you do.I am a transplant and damn near had a heart attack when I moved into my first apt. My income had to be 40x the monthly rent and they wanted first, last, security.
Two words....Joe Manchin.
It's not about the party's spine (not saying they are willing to do what the repubs are either), it's about the numbers.
I'm not a huge Schumer fan, but for real....if you were him right now, what would you do with a 50/50 senate and a moderate/conservative member from the trumpiest of states who wants to remind his voters that he's conservative from time to time?
It's not about the party's spine (not saying they are willing to do what the repubs are either), it's about the numbers.
I'm not a huge Schumer fan, but for real....if you were him right now, what would you do with a 50/50 senate and a moderate/conservative member from the trumpiest of states who wants to remind his voters that he's conservative from time to time?
You realize that NYC/DC/Chicago/the Bay etc. have lots of Black professionals right?
Yes, a ton of people make less than 80K but I imagine it isn't exactly easy to get by on that in a high cost of living city. Like I said, "low income" for the bay is around 80K for an individual and you can get housing assistance in NYC up to 60K or so for an individual.
I am a transplant and damn near had a heart attack when I moved into my first apt. My income had to be 40x the monthly rent and they wanted first, last, security.
You can definitely find buildings that don't have the same requirements but you aren't going to find a doorman building. This is BGOL so I am waiting for the posts from people saying they pay 1.5-2K for a three bedroom as well as the posts saying they live in central park south for 40-50K per month. The crazy thing is both are possible
You realize that NYC/DC/Chicago/the Bay etc. have lots of Black professionals right?
Yes, a ton of people make less than 80K but I imagine it isn't exactly easy to get by on that in a high cost of living city. Like I said, "low income" for the bay is around 80K for an individual and you can get housing assistance in NYC up to 60K or so for an individual.
Im talking AVERAGE black person not the small professional class.
They get by the same way everybody else in this country does. Over leveraged with credit and heavily in debt. You mention the bay, I was just out there last Summer for work and the number of black people working jobs that pay 80k+ there is negligible. The vast majority of the small number of people who look like us there are making much less than 80k.
https://dqydj.com/income-by-race/
80k puts you in the 86% of Black income.
Oh please democrats always have a excuse when they get into power. But when the republicans get into power they have no problems pushing there agenda.
It’s all one big game. Both party’s serve the same corporate elites. In the last 25 years name a progressive agenda that the democrats pushed toward? What ObamaCare?
I think Biden just wants to appease lower income or middle income cacs, $80k to a dude like me is good money but to alot of cats it's not much..
I really feel Biden is really gonna be that dem to go across the line to openly appeal to the lower income whites to gain appeal, especially after the 6th...
FOr cats in Cali, NYC I know that's like basic for the average educated brother out there so ya'll heated.
I really feel Biden is really gonna be that dem to go across the line to openly appeal to the lower income whites to gain appeal, especially after the 6th...
FOr cats in Cali, NYC I know that's like basic for the average educated brother out there so ya'll heated.
That is nationally which is exactly my point. We predominately live in high cost of living areas and in those areas, 80K isn't 86th percentile income.
Same question...what would you do in schumer's spot with a 50/50 tie and Manchin holding the one of the WV senate seats?
The Republicans are more likely to vote down the line, but do they always? Nope....remember McCain giving the thumb's down to put down Mcconnell's Obamacare killer? Remember that?
If you don't have the numbers, you can't do what you want. Is anything I have said untrue?
Call it excuses, or reasons....but it is politics and politics come down to numbers.
The Republicans are more likely to vote down the line, but do they always? Nope....remember McCain giving the thumb's down to put down Mcconnell's Obamacare killer? Remember that?
If you don't have the numbers, you can't do what you want. Is anything I have said untrue?
Call it excuses, or reasons....but it is politics and politics come down to numbers.
Exactly and Stanford lets people go to school for free if you can get in and your family makes less than like $120k per year. They consider that poor. Shits outrageous they think the income limits are universal.
You realize that NYC/DC/Chicago/the Bay etc. have lots of Black professionals right?
Yes, a ton of people make less than 80K but I imagine it isn't exactly easy to get by on that in a high cost of living city. Like I said, "low income" for the bay is around 80K for an individual and you can get housing assistance in NYC up to 60K or so for an individual.
I said it before...
People think the democrat party is one big thing and its not...its left in the political spectrum but democrats are left-leaning to varying degrees.
The Super Progressives
The conservatives are ALWAYS gonna drag their heals on ANYTHING thats fiscal....they were ones that drug out getting Obamacare done...
I guarantee you the mods and cons are the ones watering it down.
People think the democrat party is one big thing and its not...its left in the political spectrum but democrats are left-leaning to varying degrees.
The Super Progressives
- Very liberal on economic and identity/cultural issues, anti-establishment. (Anti-establishment is a very fuzzy term, but in this piece, what I’m referring to is people who see part of their role as not just attacking Republicans, but also highlighting what they see as shortcomings of the Democratic Party itself.)
- Prominent examples: Ocasio-Cortez , Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Rep. Mark Pocan of Wisconsin, Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.
- Very liberal on economic issues, fairly liberal on identity issues, skeptical of the Democratic establishment.
- Prominent examples: Bill de Blasio, Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren.
- Liberal on both economic and identity issues but also somewhat concerned about the “electability” of candidates and the appeal of ideas to the political center; generally rose to prominence after Barack Obama was elected president.
- Prominent examples: Stacey Abrams, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Julian Castro, Kamala Harris, Jay Inslee, Beto O’Rourke.
- Solidly center-left on both economic and identity issues, but very concerned about the “electability” of candidates and the appeal of ideas to the political center; generally rose to prominence before Obama was elected president.
- Prominent examples: Joe Biden, Cuomo, Dianne Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer.
- More conservative and business-friendly than other Democrats on economic policies; somewhat liberal on cultural issues; anti-establishment.
- Prominent examples: Rep. Josh Gottheimer of New Jersey, Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania, Rep. Abigail Spanberger of Virginia.
- Skeptical of liberal views on both economic and cultural issues; often supportive of abortion limits; generally from conservative-leaning areas.
- Prominent examples: Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards, West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin.
The conservatives are ALWAYS gonna drag their heals on ANYTHING thats fiscal....they were ones that drug out getting Obamacare done...
I guarantee you the mods and cons are the ones watering it down.
All I'm saying is that the Republicans have just as many borderline conservatives in their mix, and they never seem to have problems getting their majorities through when they need to. I know it's a different mentality, but the facts are still there.
What's the point of having a guy with a D by his name if he isn't going to deliver for you?
Why don't the progressives get together and say they won't vote on it without raising minimum wage?
Basically. Every man for themselves.
Got y'all niggas strung out.
Life in shambles
Far from but this country isn't gonna make it with two shitty parties.
Not true. NYC has the largest Black population at 2.5MM, and even if you were to wildly and erroneously grant 1MM to the other cities mentioned (and ATL), you’re not getting more than half the Black population.
Good info.
Doesn’t matter. We’re still nowhere near an avg of $80K in those areas. DC arguably has the largest Black professional class in the country, yet the median household income is $42K.
theres a few bgol members who I put on to a location where there were 1-3 bedroom apt available between $480-$700 (depending on your income)in a newly made building in Harlem... gym , outdoor patio, laundry in building, hangout area, upgraded utilities.. those prices could vary depending on your pay rate., let’s just say I personally know people that moved into that building who were “unemployed “ or making $15-20 an hr on paper.. u’ll be surprised at all the gems that are in nyc.. as you said you are a transplant..a real Nyer has homecourt advantage and know about loopholes, get connected or plug into situations, than there’s clauses to.. like say someone had an apt for 30+ yrs certain buildings have clauses where rent dosent really go up and they pass apts off to their family members/ friends... u’ll be surprised how many people live in 2 or more bedrooms paying less than 1500 or hell 1000 in nyc.. Manhattan is bigger than below 86 st.. lots of buildings are being made and if you know certain loopholes you might be put onto a waiting list to get access to them buildings for the cheap.. so while your neighbor paying 2500 you might pay 1000 or less or maybe 1500.. depend on your paperwork, etcYou can definitely find buildings that don't have the same requirements but you aren't going to find a doorman building. This is BGOL so I am waiting for the posts from people saying they pay 1.5-2K for a three bedroom as well as the posts saying they live in central park south for 40-50K per month. The crazy thing is both are possible
You may not realize this... but a 50/50 senate is extremely rare. Only happened twice before... back in the 1800's and around 9/11. So, although, yes, republicans do tend to stick together more, firstly, they don't always (see Mccain's thumbs down again), but secondly, with a 50/50 senate, you only need one senator to go the other way and you lose the tie breaker vote from the VP.
This thread is about the changes to the stimulus bill, right? One dem senator would not support the bill unless the changed the means testing for who gets a check, and without him, and zero republican votes, the bill had no chance of passing. So they had to make some changes to get it to where it could be passed. If you were the senate majority leader, what would you have done differently? If you were in Mcconnell's spot a few years back, and thought you had the votes to kill Obamacare, a dying senator from AZ came in and said fuck you're bill, what would you have done then?
50/50 senate.... it doesn't happen much, and we're seeing how can affect votes. Look at it this way though... four months ago, right after the election, we were all like damn, the dems have a smaller majority in the house and did NOT take the senate. Now they at least have the tie, so they will be able to get more bills through, and more nominees through, and more judges through.... but because it is that rare 50/50 tie, they simply can't push shit through at will.
This thread is about the changes to the stimulus bill, right? One dem senator would not support the bill unless the changed the means testing for who gets a check, and without him, and zero republican votes, the bill had no chance of passing. So they had to make some changes to get it to where it could be passed. If you were the senate majority leader, what would you have done differently? If you were in Mcconnell's spot a few years back, and thought you had the votes to kill Obamacare, a dying senator from AZ came in and said fuck you're bill, what would you have done then?
50/50 senate.... it doesn't happen much, and we're seeing how can affect votes. Look at it this way though... four months ago, right after the election, we were all like damn, the dems have a smaller majority in the house and did NOT take the senate. Now they at least have the tie, so they will be able to get more bills through, and more nominees through, and more judges through.... but because it is that rare 50/50 tie, they simply can't push shit through at will.