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At the beginning of covid you were calling it the flu.

You were downplaying its effects.

Then all of a sudden, you had it before everyone and you are a super warrior virus fighter.

But at the beginning you said Covid aint shit and talked about the Spanish Flu or ages.

You said the regular Flu killed more people and Covid wasn't gonna kill that much people.

You said ALL that and more.

You want me gone? Ignore. If you don't like control yourself and don't say nothing.

You aint put more money into his board than I did.
Once again you are a complete liar and post the thread where I said any of this.. this is your problem you always start out normal than you go into habitual liar mode and never could provide any proof of your lies.. this is been going on for months with you.. you are mentally disturbed somewhat

when you were on your many sky is falling rants and acting like the world was ending.. I told you that there were worst pandemic than this and I mentioned the Spanish flu as 1 and said we were able to recover from that so we will do the same as this.. I never called this the flu.. I said flu has been killing 10,000 of people each yr for decades so calm your end of the world fantasies.. you said millions would be dead by the summer.. I said we might not even get a million deaths within the yr(which we haven’t).. you were acting like this was a thanos snap I told it’s another pandemic like many others we had b4 and got over..my prediction are way more closer than yours.. you still alive as well as I and many others..so that end of the world prediction you had was wrong..you was ready to jump out the window yet 11 months later you still here
 
DC didn't need to follow Marvel in anyway in terms of building up the characters over time
you're right, they should have been doing this before Marvel. while we were getting those crappy F4, x-men and additional spiderman movies, DC could have been building up it's universe. Instead they kept everything separate with their more famous characters. Even with CW and shows like Titans and Doom patrol, is still separate. Imagine how many leagues and stories they could have put out by now. They had to settle for putting some of their biggest events on national television. Those events should have been on the big screen and included the big three, along with Aquaman, Cyborg, Green Lantern and Shazam. DC will not recover
 
this thread has really derailed talking DC movies but if we talking tv series/shared universe the better comparison will be with the upcoming Peacemaker (spin-off of the new Suicide Squad) and Gotham show (that will be a prequel to the upcoming Batman flick on HBO Max)

once again they might be moving too fast tracking shows for movies that havent even come out yet but these shows would be better comparison to Wanda Vision/Falcon & Winter Solider/Hawkeye/Loki/etc if & when they come out


 
You have no class or culture. Sorry. This isn't an insult it is just true.

The Thor movies are amazing!

They have some of the best acting and are visually stunning.

Only a certain type of person is going to appreciate them.

You found the Aquaman movie good? And Shazam.

That is all I need to know about you.

Imagine judging someones "class" or "culture" based on the films they enjoy and didn't. That says all I need to know about you. Fuck them boring ass movies they boring as SHIT. And then your backing of why they are good is because they have "acting" and "visually stunning"...That's pretty much what you can say about all them shitty DC movies...its 2021...everything visually stunning the fuck?
 
I said millions would be dead if people didn't listen. This was at the beginning and people did listen and wore masks and socially distanced at the beginning. It slowed the spread. Only during the holidays when people said "fuck it" did things surge. Facts is facts.

You have been down playing the Coronavirus. That is a fact.


Once again you are a complete liar and post the thread where I said any of this.. this is your problem you always start out normal than you go into habitual liar mode and never could provide any proof of your lies.. this is been going on for months with you.. you are mentally disturbed somewhat

when you were on your many sky is falling rants and acting like the world was ending.. I told you that there were worst pandemic than this and I mentioned the Spanish flu as 1 and said we were able to recover from that so we will do the same as this.. I never called this the flu.. I said flu has been killing 10,000 of people each yr for decades so calm your end of the world fantasies.. you said millions would be dead by the summer.. I said we might not even get a million deaths within the yr(which we haven’t).. you were acting like this was a thanos snap I told it’s another pandemic like many others we had b4 and got over..my prediction are way more closer than yours.. you still alive as well as I and many others..so that end of the world prediction you had was wrong..you was ready to jump out the window yet 11 months later you still here
 
That is exactly how you judge someone's class and culture.

It is based on what they are interested in.

Books you read, company you keep, entertainment, all that is a basis.

It isn't an insult. It is a fact.

You like "boom boom pow pow" with no substance. That is fine.

Thor is a different type of hero. Most people were NOT fans of his comics. He spoke differently and engaged in battle differently.

It is an acquired taste but it certainly isn't boring. Some of the best stories known in comics. You just don't know about it.

Anthony Hopkins, Rene Russo, Kenneth Branagh etc. You aint ready for that.

Did you see the sets used for Thor? Why better than Star Wars!!!! That is visually stunning! Smh.

You want an Aquaman that says "heee yawww".

All good homie.

Imagine judging someones "class" or "culture" based on the films they enjoy and didn't. That says all I need to know about you. Fuck them boring ass movies they boring as SHIT. And then your backing of why they are good is because they have "acting" and "visually stunning"...That's pretty much what you can say about all them shitty DC movies...its 2021...everything visually stunning the fuck?
 
this thread has really derailed talking DC movies but if we talking tv series/shared universe the better comparison will be with the upcoming Peacemaker (spin-off of the new Suicide Squad) and Gotham show (that will be a prequel to the upcoming Batman flick on HBO Max)

once again they might be moving too fast tracking shows for movies that havent even come out yet but these shows would be better comparison to Wanda Vision/Falcon & Winter Solider/Hawkeye/Loki/etc if & when they come out


They move so quick that I question if they even have any plans or any direction. Its just not a good idea to do this before you even know the reception of that Batman film but shit it is what it is DC ain't learned shit.

I've been critical of DC films but I have to agree. Now that they stepped away from the unified synder umbrella their flicks are much more entertainning

1st WW, Shazam, Aquaman, Joker & Birds of Prey were all fun comic book movies in their own rights
I also expect the new Suicide Squad to be pretty good

but its unforunate they cant figure out Superman & JL on the big screen

You're right for whatever reason they just can't deal with that Superman and JL shit.......I wonder if Christopher Nolan had his hands on it what he'd do with it. Not saying I'd even want that but I just wonder the approach he'd take....

And yeah that Suicide Squad looks they are getting away from that David Goyer shit of cholo's and gang culture and just straight up making a fun looking flick. I was with them u until they did this dumb ass Snyder cut shit....I just don't understand the point of it. I'm gonna watch for sure but I do not get why they're doing this. Its making me wonder is this a closing chapter of the Snyder films or is this a new beginning.
 
That is exactly how you judge someone's class and culture.

It is based on what they are interested in.

Books you read, company you keep, entertainment, all that is a basis.

It isn't an insult. It is a fact.

You like "boom boom pow pow" with no substance. That is fine.

Thor is a different type of hero. Most people were NOT fans of his comics. He spoke differently and engaged in battle differently.

It is an acquired taste but it certainly isn't boring. Some of the best stories known in comics. You just don't know about it.

Anthony Hopkins, Rene Russo, Kenneth Branagh etc. You aint ready for that.

Did you see the sets used for Thor? Why better than Star Wars!!!! That is visually stunning! Smh.

You want an Aquaman that says "heee yawww".

All good homie.
First off, this is why you shouldn't judge a person's taste on a opinion because you are assuming I even liked Aquaman. I didn't like that either I Just said it wasn't a bad film. I'm not some guy that's just fixed on one type one film. I hate Titanic and Avatar. I like Clockwork Orange. My favorite Batman film is Dark Knight Rises. Thor is boring. Sorry. It tickled your fancy. That's fine. I find it funny though you think DCU doesn't have actors on the level of Anthony Hopkins and Rene Russo? The fuck? Like I said above man the reason you love those Thor movies are what people actually give those Superman movies credit for. The acting and the visuals lol. There's so much more to telling a story than just that.
 
Thor 2 was pretty good... that first one though... hit and miss...

DCU, the first Wonder Woman was good, Man of Steel was very good, Aquaman was good, and Shazam had its moments but overall i wasn't impressed... I'd give those movies a B ranking, with Shazam bordering on a high C

And I get laughed at for this but Justice League... not all that bad to me :dunno:

Suicide Squad was a great movie UNTIL they flew them choppers into the city. From that point in the movie went downhill

I think for most people the frustration with the DCU boils down to 2 things:

1. The characters are SO ICONIC. Their Big 3 are some of the most iconic, recognizable, story rich and loved comic book characters of all time. Why can't you get this right??

2. The animated and TV show departments hit home run after home run and it leaves fans to wonder why can't that success translate over to the big screen??

I think DC should have taken a pause and really studied the MCU development plan for building their universe... start with a lesser known character that has ties to all of the other bigger, more iconic characters, and branch out from there like MCU did with Iron Man.

To me their guy was Green Arrow. You already had success with him on the small screen... put a big budget behind him, intertwine his stories with the Big 3, and build up to a Avengers style movie a few years after characters and a centrally themed plot have developed across several movies.

I'm right there with you. I Don't think they are great films by no means but I had no issue with JL, MofS or Suicide Squad. I enjoyed them all but they are heavily flawed. Suicide Squad had so much potential. I think that's DCU in general....full of potential and then at some point in the film it just takes a turn for the worse and never recovers.

I wouldn't try to emulate MCU but if they did I agree with your approach. Get one of your lesser known guys like Green Arrow and take chances with that that you can't do with Batman. Shit that should've been easy for them with the success of the show. If you gonna try and emulate MCU then do it right. They wrote the blueprint for them and they didn't want to read it and tried to skip to the end.....
 
First off, this is why you shouldn't judge a person's taste on a opinion because you are assuming I even liked Aquaman. I didn't like that either I Just said it wasn't a bad film. I'm not some guy that's just fixed on one type one film. I hate Titanic and Avatar. I like Clockwork Orange. My favorite Batman film is Dark Knight Rises. Thor is boring. Sorry. It tickled your fancy. That's fine. I find it funny though you think DCU doesn't have actors on the level of Anthony Hopkins and Rene Russo? The fuck? Like I said above man the reason you love those Thor movies are what people actually give those Superman movies credit for. The acting and the visuals lol. There's so much more to telling a story than just that.
Dude is a troll don’t even respond to him.. dude is randomly saying sporadic shit just for people to respond to him.. he does this in a lot of threads..just randomly speaking giving out misinfo etc.. dude has a lot of shit to say yet hasn’t seen 1 episode so how can he even critique something he hasn’t even seen.. he just wants people to talk to him and will continue to say random shit so ull respond to him..he’s like the bullet of convo he says shit just to get a response no matter how negative it is to him..he’s weird like that
 
I should have made it clear that this is my opinion. It isn't an insult. Good for you, that is your taste.

Batman Begins is the best movie in Nolans Batman films and Dark Knight Rises is the worst.

Wow wow wow.

It is really too much to type but I can breakdown how your choices when what you like supports my opinion on your taste.

This is what discussion thread are for. What you like in movies is what I think makes movies BAD.


First off, this is why you shouldn't judge a person's taste on a opinion because you are assuming I even liked Aquaman. I didn't like that either I Just said it wasn't a bad film. I'm not some guy that's just fixed on one type one film. I hate Titanic and Avatar. I like Clockwork Orange. My favorite Batman film is Dark Knight Rises. Thor is boring. Sorry. It tickled your fancy. That's fine. I find it funny though you think DCU doesn't have actors on the level of Anthony Hopkins and Rene Russo? The fuck? Like I said above man the reason you love those Thor movies are what people actually give those Superman movies credit for. The acting and the visuals lol. There's so much more to telling a story than just that.
 
You talking about yourself.

Talking about the subtopics in this thread.


Dude is a troll don’t even respond to him.. dude is randomly saying sporadic shit just for people to respond to him.. he does this in a lot of threads..just randomly speaking giving out misinfo etc.. dude has a lot of shit to say yet hasn’t seen 1 episode so how can he even critique something he hasn’t even seen.. he just wants people to talk to him and will continue to say random shit so ull respond to him..he’s like the bullet of convo he says shit just to get a response no matter how negative it is to him..he’s weird like that
 
Dude is a troll don’t even respond to him.. dude is randomly saying sporadic shit just for people to respond to him.. he does this in a lot of threads..just randomly speaking giving out misinfo etc.. dude has a lot of shit to say yet hasn’t seen 1 episode so how can he even critique something he hasn’t even seen.. he just wants people to talk to him and will continue to say random shit so ull respond to him..he’s like the bullet of convo he says shit just to get a response no matter how negative it is to him..he’s weird like that
Yeah... he does shit like this in EVERY THREAD.
 
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Dude is a troll don’t even respond to him.. dude is randomly saying sporadic shit just for people to respond to him.. he does this in a lot of threads..just randomly speaking giving out misinfo etc.. dude has a lot of shit to say yet hasn’t seen 1 episode so how can he even critique something he hasn’t even seen.. he just wants people to talk to him and will continue to say random shit so ull respond to him..he’s like the bullet of convo he says shit just to get a response no matter how negative it is to him..he’s weird like that
Awww shit my bad thanks for the heads up man I sometimes don't know who be genuine or the trolls are on this site lol.
 
I went back and watched the Age Of Ultron because I didn’t get WandaVision. Matter of fact, I never watched Age of Ultron and I watched it on a humble last week. That helped me understand some things but I like WandaVision anyway. I am a child of the 80’s so the Leave it to Beaver (I think) and Bewitched had me sold. We watched those shows in the 80’s because they were in syndication.
 
You know what?I didn’t, but he had what two scenes? Never got a feel for him.
I mean he was in there too long if you ask me but I think his argument was he had a lot of stuff left on the cutting room floor. They failed in what to do with that character anyway in Suicide Squad though so probably ain't even Jared Leto's fault.
 
So, the scene where Vision washes his hands...first of all, it's odd that he would do so; then the camera zooms to his hands; then cuts to his face and tilts. I wonder what the signifigance is? Any thoughts?

One thing is abundantly clear, Marvel constructs its product like a Rolex.
 
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WandaVision Theory: Westview's Big Guest Star Has Been Here All Along
WandaVision's new star could open many doors for the MCU, but they may also be another Westview citizen forced into a new identity.

BY CAITLIN CHAPPELL15 HOURS AGO
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WARNING: The following contains spoilers for WandaVision Episode 5, "On a Very Special Episode...," now streaming on Disney+.

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"On a Very Special Episode..." lived up up to its title by bringing in Evan Peters as Pietro Maximoff. Peters was Quicksilver in Fox's X-Men franchise, making him the first actor from that cinematic universe to cross over into the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a potentially new version of his character; however, who this Pietro is remains unclear, and there is a possibility that Peters' character isn't even Pietro; instead, he could be another citizen of Westview.

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In this new reality, Westview residents have had their minds altered, forcing them to take on new personalities and names. Episode 4, "We Interrupt This Program," proved this, with S.W.O.R.D. uncovering the true identities of several characters. There have also been moments throughout the series that show Westview residents either don't know what's happening or they are aware of the fact that they've lost their free will, as seen in Episode 5.

As Vision taps into Norm's mind, Norm becomes his true self, and he is distraught over the fact that someone else is forcing him to be a new person. With many Westview citizens likely in the same position, it wouldn't be a surprise to learn that Pietro is another resident who's being forced to play a role in Wanda's suburban fantasy.


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After all, he is clearly not the Pietro from the MCU. Darcy Lewis acknowledges this, remarking that Wanda recast her brother. The MCU has had a handful of characters recast before, like James Rhodes and Bruce Banner; however, the films have not directly addressed this. WandaVision, on the other hand, calls out the fact that this Pietro is different from the original MCU Pietro, played by Aaron Taylor-Johnson. While this could be another moment of Darcy representing the viewers, acknowledging in-universe that this is a different version of Wanda's brother could mean he isn't even Pietro.

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Instead, he could be a resident who hasn't been featured in this sitcom until now. As seen with Monica's Geraldine, not everyone starts off as featured character, but they may eventually earn a chance to step into the spotlight, developing a name and personality that suits Wanda's fantasy. Having someone play her brother wouldn't be out of the question, especially since she was grieving over Pietro in Episode 3 and talking about him to her sons in Episode 5.

Even Wanda is shocked by his arrival, which further supports this theory. Wanda could simply be surprised that her dead brother is alive; however, it isn't until Pietro says he is her brother that Wanda accepts this as fact. Perhaps she didn't recognize him because he was formerly one of the residents Wanda had yet to encounter until now.


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While the fake sitcom has a core cast of named characters, the town of Westview is bigger than that. It has a population of 3,892 people, and only a handful have had speaking roles in this sitcom reality. The few featured residents are present because they serve Wanda and Vision's narrative, and with the role of Wanda's brother open, a new resident needed to take that position, having their identity altered to suit the sitcom's story.

Furthermore, it's established in Episode 5 that everything in Westview is real, and Wanda has been changing reality, but she needs a physical being or object to work with. For instance, she needed Monica's bullet-proof vest to make into period appropriate clothing. In a more extreme case, she needed Vision's body to have him alive in Westview. While it's unclear how Vision was resurrected, this principle could also apply to Pietro.



Given how long it's been since Avengers: Age of Ultron, Pietro's corpse is likely unaccessible to Wanda, so she couldn't bring him back. While someone else could be influencing Westview alongside Wanda, it's likely the same rules apply to them. Without Pietro's body, a Westview resident was needed to bring Quicksilver back into the MCU.

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On the other hand, WandaVision has shown that living beings can be created within Westview, as is the case for Billy and Tommy. This could be the case for Pietro as well, with the mysterious force behind Westview creating him to appease Wanda. However, if he was created out of nothing, then he would've likely resembled his past self. Furthermore, if the show wanted this to be another case of the MCU simply recasting someone without changing who the character was, then it would've been best not to directly mention the recast in-universe.


WandaVision continues to be one of the MCU's more complex properties, and the introduction of Peters' Quicksilver is proof of that. His presence raises questions about the multiverse and mutants; however, he could simply be another Westview resident forced into a new identity, but nothing is simple in WandaVision.
 
WandaVision Theory: Vision Is ACTUALLY Wonder Man
Wonder Man and Vision's connection in the comics is well established, and it's possible that WandaVision is ready to bring it to the small screen.

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WARNING: The following contains spoilers for WandaVision episode 4, "We Interrupt This Program," now streaming on Disney+.

Few other shows are as perfectly designed to fuel fan speculation as WandaVision. With its eerie aesthetic, shifting aesthetic, and a mind-boggling number of winks and nods connecting it to the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there is unending fodder for crafting theories. Some mysteries may be hiding in plain sight, however, and it's only once one thinks about them that they become bothersome. Case in point: If everyone in Westview is a real person caught in Wanda's web, then who is playing the role of Vision?

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The narrative's shift in "We Interrupt This Program" to the perspective of S.W.O.R.D., the government agency monitoring the events from the first three episodes, came with some startling revelations. But one of the most intriguing unsolved mysteries involves the backgrounds of Westview's residents. Since the altered reality of the sitcom setting already shifted the world to fit its cozy black-and-white image, it doesn't seem to be like a huge leap to assume from the outset that Wanda pulled her supporting cast out of thin air. However, when Monica Rambeau turned out to be an agent of S.W.O.R.D. and many of the others were identified in the latest episode, that assumption fell flat.


With real-life people essentially serving as actors in a sitcom Wanda forces them to be in, shifting their minds to fit their altered perspective, it's only natural to wonder who is playing the part of Vision. Murdered in Infinity War when Thanos crushed took the Mind Stone from his head, it would be a remarkable feat for Wanda to completely reinvent the one of a kind synthezoid when she needed actors to play everybody else. In that sense, Vison must be a real person, and the comics may point to their identity.

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While his origins in the comics are drastically different than in the MCU, one notable element in the source material is that the Vision's brain patterns are mapped after the character Simon Williams. Williams, aka Wonder Man, was initially a mole given powers and embedded into the Avengers to betray them, but he later had a crisis of conscience and proved himself a hero. Since he was the template for Vision, there came frequent drama resulting from each man's romantic entanglements with Wanda, and how this fits into WandaVision's setting seems only natural.


It's possible that Williams is the real-life person Wanda is mind-controlling to look and act like Vision, and there's even another mystery he could slip right into in the form of Agent Woo's missing person. When Woo is first brought in on the case, it's to find an unnamed member of the Witness Protection Program who went missing. If that character is Williams, then the show would have good reason to not drop his name given the massive clue it would be to fans of the comics.

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Despite the missing person case being his whole reason for investigating, Woo never identified who he was looking for as S.W.O.R.D. monitored the broadcasts of Westview. Throw in the fact that Wonder Man's design was spotted in a WandaVision featurette, and it's almost a sure bet that the character is included somehow. The show may be called WandaVision, but the more it progresses, the more it seems like it'll end up being more "WonderVision."
 
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