Joe Biden is now POTUS

^^^^^^^Yo real talk if folks are pissed about 2000 vs 1400 when 600 was already given. Fuck em.

Go tell them to ask the Republicans to give them 1400. Better yet tell Repugs to give them an additional 2 grand. I ll wait.

Exactly.

And this is the very attitude and mentality that will get the Dems swept out in 2022. Saying "fuck em" to your own constituency.
 
I understood it the same way y’all did. The initial proposal was $2000 and the GOP said no even after Trump expressed the $2000. Instead they gave $600 and the Dems were suppose to give the rest ($1400).

If anything, the messaging was kind of shitty to continue to use $2000 AFTER the $600 was already distributed.

This i can agree with.

Messaging was poor, but I've always understood it to be them adding $1400 on to get to that $2000 mark.
 
And this is the very attitude and mentality that will get the Dems swept out in 2022. Saying "fuck em" to your own constituency.
Well people can chose to cut off their nose to spite their face if they want but they'll just be even worse off for doing so. They other side aint going to give you shit. In fact they'll be looking to take away what you already have.
 
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If your ass thinks that only Democrats want those checks....You need to log off now and go rethink life.

Reading comprehension is a must! I said that the “attitude and mentality” that YOU expressed when YOU said “fuck em” is indicative of why the Dems will lose seats in 2022. That disregard of your core constituency.
 
Reading comprehension is a must! I said that the “attitude and mentality” that YOU expressed when YOU said “fuck em” is indicative of why the Dems will lose seats in 2022. That disregard of your core constituency.
I'm disregarding everyone and telling them to go fuck themselves because if it was up to the Repugs with that $600B bullshit bill NO ONE would get shit.

But you won t mention that.

Folks are up here arguing when was "$2000" said meanwhile the Repugs are telling people to go kick rocks. FOH.
 
I'm disregarding everyone and telling them to go fuck themselves because if it was up to the Repugs with that $600B bullshit bill NO ONE would get shit.

But you won t mention that.

No need to mention that. It is known. But that doesn’t excuse the willful misleading that the Dems have engaged in on this issue.
 
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‘A Betrayal’: Georgia Voters Enraged After Democrats Promise of ‘$2000 Checks’ Becomes $1400 Under Biden Stimulus Plan

President-elect Joe Biden released his long-awaited stimulus proposal last Thursday that contained an inauspicious provision for millions of Americans expecting additional $2,000 stimulus checks. Instead of that long-promised amount, Biden’s proposal only calls for an additional $1,400 stimulus payment.

Georgia voters who recently delivered the Democratic Party control of the U.S. Senate by electing Reverend Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff say they feel betrayed, let down, and outraged at what NBC Peacock host Mehdi Hasan has termed “Biden’s first broken campaign promise.”

Oscar Zaro voted for the Democratic Party slate during the recent Senate runoff election. He lives in Hiram, Georgia, just outside of Powder Springs.

A Democratic voter in the typically red 14th Congressional District, which is currently represented by QAnon Rep. Marjorie Taylor-Greene, Zaro said that Georgians in the 14th were spurred on to vote more Democratic than usual this year due, in part, to the promise of “$2,000 checks” by Warnock and Ossoff.

“The last few weeks heading towards the runoff election, especially after Trump endorsed the $2,000 payments, Warnock and Ossoff made it a point to endorse and exclusively say ‘$2,000 checks,'” he said. “A lot of the people in my district voted blue in the runoff for two main reasons: (1) Loeffler and Perdue denying us relief during COVID while profiting millions themselves; and (2) $2,000 checks.”
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“They really underestimate just how much people are hurting economically,” Zaro added, referring to Democrats who he views as reneging on their word.

Democrats on the campaign trail repeatedly referenced “$2,000 checks” during the final stages of the Senate runoffs — immediately seizing upon the populist issue after President Donald Trump threatened to veto the most recent stimulus package, in part, over a professed belief that the $600 payments were not generous enough.

“I don’t know where President Trump has been for the last eight months, while his allies in the U.S. Senate have been blocking this relief,” Ossoff said the same night the 45th president brought the issue to the fore. “Trump is, as ever, erratic and all over the place, but on this point, tonight, he’s right. $600 is a joke. They should send $2,000 checks to the American people right now because people are hurting.”

Trump made that threat on December 22. He quickly buckled and signed the stimulus into law on December 27. Democrats, sensing a golden opportunity and a winning issue, continued their pitch for “$2,000 checks” in Georgia.

A CNN article from January 4 recounting an election-eve rally in Atlanta for Warnock and Ossoff ran with the following headline: “Biden says electing Georgia’s Ossoff and Warnock would lead to $2,000 stimulus checks.”

A Spectrum News article from January 4 detailing that same event is titled: “Biden to Georgia Voters: Elect Ossoff, Warnock for $2,000 Stimulus Checks.”

“In Georgia, Democrats close with populist pitch vowing $2,000 stimulus checks,” declared the headline of an NBC News article from January 5 — again focused on that eleventh hour campaign swing by Warnock, Ossoff and the president-elect.

And Georgia voters, for their part, believed that “$2,000 checks” actually meant something to the effect of a check (or helicopter-dropped payment) for $2,000.

Rachel Kahn is a left-wing organizer and podcaster from Atlanta, Georgia. She reluctantly voted for Biden because the Peach State swung low enough for Democrats to capture in 2020. Kahn pointed out, however, that she voted enthusiastically in both the general and runoff elections for Warnock and Ossoff because of an “immeasurable hatred for David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler.”

“Frankly I just want them to feel sad,” she added, referring to the outgoing GOP senators.

While generally skeptical of the Democratic Party as a vehicle for progress, Kahn said the expectation for Georgia voters was that Biden and the two winning Senate candidates had sincerely promised them $2,000 checks.

“In my opinion as a person who does marketing, advertising, and public communications as my job, I would confidently say their messaging implied an additional $2,000, not $2,000 minus $600,” she told Mediaite.


While calling the “backtracking” on the stimulus amount and Biden’s apparent embrace of “austerity” politics “bad,” Kahn, who was born and raised in Georgia, said she wasn’t particularly surprised Democrats are now mounting a fine-print effort to explain away those earlier promises.

Other Georgia voters and organizers weren’t so sanguine about the Democrats’ quick volte-face on the meaning of “$2,000 checks.”

Rogelio Linares, who hails from Atlanta, canvassed innumerable Georgia voters as part of one service industry union’s massive outreach program on behalf of the Democratic Party during the Senate runoffs.

“I was on the ground and I knocked over 1,000 doors,” he told Mediaite in an interview. “At the doors, I was literally telling people, ‘$2K checks, you can rely on this.’ I’m a man of principle and morals and I feel like shit. I lied to them. I was lying to them the whole time. I was lying to people that were relying on this. At the time I didn’t know it was a lie. But that was not the reality.”

Linares consistently reiterated that many Georgia voters feel taken advantage but crestfallen because there’s essentially nothing they can do about the Democratic Party’s abrupt reversal on the amount of direct aid currently being proposed.

“This is pretty much a betrayal of the working class,” he said.

“I know people are pissed off about it,” Linares continued. “People are very mad about it. We are so on our knees as a country–we don’t have much leverage. The working class, small businesses [who are] getting hammered. I’m pissed off, Everyone’s pissed off, union workers are pissed off. It’s sad. It’s absurd. It’s disgusting. But there’s not much people can do.”

During Biden’s last-minute pitch to Peach State voters, the incoming president promised that “$2,000 checks will go out the door” in the event that his fellow Democrats defeated their GOP rivals. Video of that apparently-flexible promise has since gone viral in the aftermath of palpable online outrage.

Promises made by Warnock and Ossoff are being highlighted as well.

A popular video shared by independent journalist Eoin Higgins begins with Ossoff saying: “We will be able to pass $2,000 stimulus checks for the people next week when we win these races in Georgia and get economic relief directly into the bank accounts of the people who are suffering right now.”




The following image was shared by Warnock in the waning days of the campaign:





A second clip from the above video shows Biden speaking directly to Georgia voters and reiterating his support for checks in the amount of $2,000.

“By electing Jon and the reverend, you can make an immediate difference in your own lives and the lives of the people all across this country,” the president-elect says. “Because their election will put an end to the block in Washington on that $2,000 stimulus check. That money that will go out the door immediately to help people who are in trouble.”

“Look at Ossoff’s tweets. Look at Warnock’s tweets,” Linares frustratedly went on. “They say ‘$2K now.’ First of all, that’s lying. That’s not transparency. Everyone I know who hears about it ends up being outraged.”

When asked if the voters he spoke with during his weeks-long door-knocking efforts expected a check from Biden for $2,000, he answered adamantly in the affirmative.

“One hundred percent,” Linares confirmed. “There’s no denying that. Myself included. The union I work with who had thousands of people on the ground, they were relying on that as well. People were definitely relying on those $2K checks.”

“We were talking about $2,000 checks daily,” he continued. “We were pitching $2K checks because that’s what the campaigns were pushing as well. They were tweeting about it nonstop, posting on Instagram about it nonstop, the senators-elect themselves. They stabbed people in the back. The majority of people I worked with left their jobs for a month. They put their lives on hold and then [the incoming administration] went and stabbed them in the back.”

The Biden Transition did not respond to multiple requests for comment. But some commentators have pushed back against the disappointment.

Matt Stoller, a Federalist Society contributor and fellow at the Open Markets Institute, who until recently, was a well-known booster for Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), heaped scorn on working class critics of Biden’s $1,400 gambit.

“I think lefties really need to consider how their dishonest framing of the $2000 direct payment damages their credibility,” he tweeted on Friday. “Joe Biden really wanted to deliver on this lefty priorities [sic], and lefties went after him for doing that. Why should Biden listen to lefties going forward?”

While the online left has always been something of a tough sell for the centrist politician, Georgians surveyed by Mediaite suggested that Biden should listen to his own statements made just before their state’s high-profile and highly-consequential runoff elections if he wants to maintain the goodwill of voters there.


Justin Wade is from Tucker, Georgia — a city located in vote-rich DeKalb County. He said attempts by party faithful to defend Biden’s $1,400 proposal made no sense in the context of the half-billion-dollar campaigns Democrats ran in his state.

“I’m from Georgia and I voted for Ossoff and Warnock in the January runoff elections,” he told Mediaite. “Prior to the runoff, I saw numerous ads and statements promising $2,000 stimulus checks. Many of these were made after the $600 checks went out. On January 4th, the day before the runoff, Biden said if Democrats win Georgia, ‘$2,000 checks will go out the door.’ Considering he said this after many of the $600 checks had already gone out, it would’ve been crazy to think that he actually meant $1,400 checks.”

Wade also expressed concerns about how Biden’s broken promise augurs for the future of his administration.

“Warnock, Ossoff, [Vice President-elect] Kamala [Harris], and others have all pushed for $2,000 checks, but none of them have called on Biden to push for $2,000 checks in addition to the $600 checks,” he said. “Considering the Democrats control Congress and the presidency, they could’ve pushed for more if they wanted to. This is a bad sign for how they will govern for the next four years.”

Anger at the quick turn is rife and could lead to electoral problems down the road in the recent and perilously blue state, Georgians insist.

“I definitely interpreted Warnock and Ossoff’s many advertisements and interviews where they spoke explicitly of getting people ‘$2,000 checks,’ as meaning $2,000 checks,” Atlanta, Georgia-based YouTuber Mac Holmes told Mediaite. “If they meant $1,400 on top of the previous $600, why continue advertising $2,000 checks after the $600 was already passed? That’s at best misleading and at worst an outright lie.”

“If voters thought they meant new, separate $2,000 checks, why not just do that?” Holmes continued. “The $2,000 checks were one of the main reasons Democrats flipped Georgia. If they want it to stay that way, they should be relentlessly fighting for the $2,000 checks many voters thought they were being promised.”

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well then Georgia voters should vote republican next time and get that zero dollar stimulus and the gops thoughts and prayers.


I understood it the same way y’all did. The initial proposal was $2000 and the GOP said no even after Trump expressed the $2000. Instead they gave $600 and the Dems were suppose to give the rest ($1400).

If anything, the messaging was kind of shitty to continue to use $2000 AFTER the $600 was already distributed.
the dems failed again in believing that its base is more intelligent than the Republicans, I think several people in this thread alone prove that's not the case.
 
Good start...gotta hold him accountable though.


President Biden pledges to fix the racial wealth gap. Here are his plans
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Vice President Kamala Harris watches as President Joe Biden signs executive orders after speaking on racial equity in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington, DC on January 26, 2021.
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Just over two weeks into his administration, President Joe Biden has already made it clear he wants to close the racial wealth gap in America.
“We need to make the issue of racial equity not just an issue for any one department of government; it has to be the business of the whole of government,” Biden said, when signing four executive orders relating to the issue.

The gap is wide. The median wealth for a white family was $188,200, compared to $24,100 for Black families and $36,100 for Hispanic families, according to the Federal Reserve’s 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances, released in September 2020.

“This is an area where we are not only not making progress, we are losing ground,” said Marc Morial, president and CEO of the National Urban League.
“The Covid recession has continued to drive wealth upward to a more concentrated group of Americans.”
So far, Biden’s executive orders tackle fair housing, ending the use of private prisons by the federal government, reaffirming the U.S.’s commitment to tribunal sovereignty and consultation and combating xenophobia against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders.

He’s also made a number of proposals on the campaign trial. Here are some of his plans.

Compensation
Biden’s first order of business was making a $15 federal minimum wage part of his stimulus plan. However, it has to pass Congress and was not included in the Senate’s most recent proposal. At the same time, Democrats have reintroduced the Raise the Wage Act which will incrementally increase the minimum wage to $15 by 2025.
Under Biden’s plan, the pay boost would give 31% of Black and 26% of Latino workers a raise, according to the Economic Policy Institute, a left-leaning research group.

Opponents of the wage increase note that the Congressional Budget Office has projected a $15 minimum wage increase by 2025 could mean a median of 1.3 million jobs lost in the U.S. due to a fall in business revenues.
The Covid recession has continued to drive wealth upward to a more concentrated group of Americans.
Marc Morial
PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE NATIONAL URBAN LEAGUE
But to really help boost the earning power of people of color, financial education should be part of the package, said Louis Barajas, chief strategy officer at Newport, California-based MGO Private Wealth and a member of the CNBC Financial Advisor Council.
“I meet a lot of people who are poor and they don’t understand what it takes to get to the next level,” said Barajas, who grew up in East Los Angeles and has since returned as a certified financial planner to help the underserved community.

Infrastructure
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During the campaign, Biden pledged a $2 trillion accelerated investment to create jobs to build modern, sustainable infrastructure in Black and Brown communities. That includes not only roads and bridges, but schools, drinking water and broadband access.
His goal is that 40% of the overall benefits go to disadvantaged communities and that jobs are filled by diverse, local and well-trained workers.
“We need a Rooseveltian public works plan in this country right now,” Morial said.

Housing
Biden also signed an executive order directing the Department of Housing and Urban Development to examine the effects of President Donald Trump’s regulatory actions that “undermined fair housing policies and laws.”
Based on that analysis, HUD will take steps to implement requirements of the Fair Housing Act.
As a candidate, Biden proposed creating a new refundable, advanceable tax credit of up to $15,000 to help families buy their first home. He also promised to scale up support for federal programs that financially support and revitalize distressed neighborhoods, as well as spur the construction of 1.5 million homes and public housing units.

Small businesses
In addition to calling for grants to more than 1 million of the hardest hit businesses in his Covid-19 relief package, Biden is also looking at longer-term solutions for small business owners of color.
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During the campaign, Biden called to allocate $10 billion from the new Small Business Opportunity Fund to state and local venture capital programs. Based on past government investments, he believes that can spur $50 billion in new equity investment for small businesses.

Education opportunities
In addition to proposing some sort of student debt forgiveness, Biden also advocated making public colleges and universities tuition-free for all families with incomes below $125,000. He also wants to nix tuition at two-year community colleges.
Nearly 85% of Black bachelor’s degree recipients carry student debt, compared with 69% of white bachelor’s degree recipients, according to the Center for Responsible Lending.
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Institutions that are historically Black and Hispanic, as well as others, will also see an investment under Biden’s plan. It includes building high-tech labs and digital infrastructure, as well as investing in programs that increase enrollment, retention, completion and employment rates.
For entrepreneurs, he would like to establish intensive, semester-long business development programs at every public community college in the U.S. Workforce training is also part of his focus, including a $50 billion investment that will include community-college business partnerships and apprenticeships.

Banks
Communities of color have long been under-served by banks. In 2019, 14% of Black households and 10% of Hispanics had no bank accounts, according to the Federal Reserve.
To ensure U.S. banks are serving everyone, Biden is aiming to strengthen and expand the Community Reinvestment Act. It currently regulates banks “but does little to ensure that fintechs and non-bank lenders are providing responsible access to all members of the community,” his campaign website stated.

Biden also wants to expand access to $100 billion in low-interest business loans by funding state, local, tribal and non-profit lending programs in Black and Brown communities. He proposes expanding the role of Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) in underserved communities.
The big banks should also do their part, Barajas believes. Instead of the advisors being paid a commission on products sold, the institutions should rethink the way they work.
“They need to be the leaders,” he said. “They need to put people in these communities and pay them a salary to work in those communities full-time.”
 
well then Georgia voters should vote republican next time and get that zero dollar stimulus and the gops thoughts and prayers.


the dems failed again in believing that its base is more intelligent than the Republicans, I think several people in this thread alone prove that's not the case.

I disagree. The Democrats are fully aware of how gullible their base is, which is why they so easily get away with willfully getting over on campaign promises and use symbolism over substance to emotionally manipulate voters. Timberlands and pearls, hot sauce in da bag, singing Al Green........you know the fuckery that goes down.
 
I disagree. The Democrats are fully aware of how gullible their base is, which is why they so easily get away with willfully getting over on campaign promises and use symbolism over substance to emotionally manipulate voters. Timberlands and pearls, hot sauce in da bag, singing Al Green........you know the fuckery that goes down.
So the democratic base are the only ones who voted for the two democratic senators for those checks?
 
Hmmmmmmm

I see the ADOS coons are in here doing their thing. Always funny watching a bunch of people that told you not to vote commenting on politics while telling you sitting on the sidelines is smart.

Where did we tell you note to vote? And please quote for reference.
 
You know good and damn well no voters were taking it that way. People were anticipating a $2000 stimulus on top of the $600 that was set to go out. The way y'all bend over backwards to make excuses for these motherfuckers is truly amazing.


The election was in November. The bill that gave 600.00 wasn't signed until the end of December. Anyone who was paying attention should have known that the 1400.00 was to supplement the 600.00.

All the discussion since then was increasing the payment to 2000.00. Trump said they were going to do a separate bill, but it never happened;

 
Where did we tell you note to vote? And please quote for reference.

Boy sit down and shut the fuck up. You dudes keep trying to dodge that shit. Same way you simple asses keep trying to dodge the fact your "official ADOS" website had Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump praise on it and then scrubbed it out when people noticed. You dummies got GOP backers and they were bold enough to put hints out for everyone to see and you fool still are dancing for them.
 
The election was in November. The bill that gave 600.00 wasn't signed until the end of December. Anyone who was paying attention should have known that the 1400.00 was to supplement the 600.00.

All the discussion since then was increasing the payment to 2000.00. Trump said they were going to do a separate bill, but it never happened;


Fucking thank you..

This is the shit I've been saying since the election...

The 1400 was to supplement the 600.... to get to 2K

Oh and Lou Dobbs got cancelled

 
Hold up.... did this thread turn to an Ados thread....

No. Not yet at least. There are folks trying to take it there, surprisingly it's not Va, it's the ones using his past comments to attack him instead of his incorrect commentary, BUT the ones complaining the most about Biden and what he has or hasn't done, who he has or hasn't appointed all over the rest of the board are the ones who either didn't vote for Biden, didn't vote for President but voted locally, didn't vote period and/or discouraged others from doing so and of course hate Kamala and the Timbs she walked in on.
 
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