Joe Biden is now POTUS

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more liberal progressives need to do this more often, thats one of my gripes with Obama , he never tooted his own horn, thereby creating a vacuum whereby dumbasses all over including on bgol can say "he aint do shit"

Yes but they are disingenuous. They know he did shit, they just refuse to recognize it. He wasn't perfect, he wasn't a God, but he did what he could within the parameters of the situation.
 
Yes but they are disingenuous. They know he did shit, they just refuse to recognize it. He wasn't perfect, he wasn't a God, but he did what he could within the parameters of the situation.
Pretty much this. You can't look at how the world has shaken out post-Obama and pretend that effective messaging was the issue at hand.

There are people now, even after four years of Trump doing exactly what they accused Obama of doing or worse, that will still have the same baseless claims about Obama. They'll still talk about how Obama didn't do enough worked, golfed too much, embarrassed the country internationally, was divisive and wouldn't reach out to political opponents. They'll still try to say these things with a straight face. Because it was never about truth with them.

And Obama wasn't perfect. I would love to deep dive some of the things he could have done better or differently. But I'll be damned if I'm going to be the springboard some asshole uses to try to confirm that "black people weren't happy with him, either". I'll keep my critiques low key, and share them in trusted company.

One big takeaway for me in all of this is reconfirming that all of the white folks that were scared of Obama with power and didn't trust him with it got exposed for what they are. Because when the (allegedly) rich white guy that spouted the hate they like weilded that same power in uglier fashion, they didn't say shit. In fact, a lot of them liked it. So it was never about having "too much power" for them. They just didn't like the person with the power.
 
Yes but they are disingenuous. They know he did shit, they just refuse to recognize it. He wasn't perfect, he wasn't a God, but he did what he could within the parameters of the situation.
thats assuming ur opponents & their folks r playin fair and we know they aint, we gotta stop being reactive n more proactive in gettin the messages out
 
If the state of New York have anything to do with it he is going to jail and he’s Cannot pardon his self
TBH...I think this is what the country should be wishing for. Him out of the picture gives America a chance to heal and Republicans a chance to retake their party from the lunatics and reconvert trumpers....then the fights for future presidency will be about policies and not personalities.
 
TBH...I think this is what the country should be wishing for. Him out of the picture gives America a chance to heal and Republicans a chance to retake their party from the lunatics and reconvert trumpers....then the fights for future presidency will be about policies and not personalities.

They aren't going to go back to normal. If anything, it is going to get worse.
 
more liberal progressives need to do this more often, thats one of my gripes with Obama , he never tooted his own horn, thereby creating a vacuum whereby dumbasses all over including on bgol can say "he aint do shit"
There is probably a strong overlap between the people that say this and the people who don't watch things like the State of the Union address.
 
Exactly. Lots of legitimate critiques you can make about Obama but it is always curious to see those same people not go after Trump/GOP for far worse.
exactly ! like theres lots of legit critique u can make but these fools just parrot some foxlite talking points so u know their critic aint even grounded in anything thing solid or progressive and get mad if u dont just accept their bs by calling u a democrat plant or some other bs
 
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exactly ! like theres lots of legit critique u can make but these fools just parrot some foxlite talking points so u know their critic aint even grounded in anything thing solid or progressive and get mad if u dont just accept their bs by calling u a democrat plant or some other bs
But why even take them seriously if you know their arguments are wawa lunch meat thin? You can’t keep arguing in good faith with bad faith arguments.

In South Korea there is the DMZ and in future
Arguments and debates their should be a clear line that defines a credible person a non credible person. Voting for the president is that line for me. I’m not remotely interested in having anything with that person.
 
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