Fatal Shooting of 2 Black Teens in a Moving Vehicle by Florida Deputies

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According to CBS News, the video was posted to Facebook by the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office along with a lengthy description of what occurs in the video. The sheriff’s office said that Deputies Jafet Santiago-Miranda and Carson Hendren were doing an investigation on a reported stolen vehicle, and were tailing the car that victims A.J. Crooms, 16, and Sincere Pierce, 18, were driving through a suburban neighborhood in Cocoa, Fla.

After the car pulls into a driveway, the deputies exit separate squad cars with their guns drawn. Santiago-Miranda can be heard repeatedly saying, “stop the vehicle” as the car pulls out from the driveway. The vehicle stops and then begins to slowly move in the direction of Santiago-Miranda, which leads to the deputy firing eight shots into the windshield, killing Crooms and Pierce.

In the Facebook post containing the video, Sheriff Wayne Ivey says that Santiago-Mirando “was then forced to fire his service weapon in an attempt to stop the deadly threat of the car from crashing into him.”

Attorney Benjamin Crump is representing both families and has called for all recordings of the incident to be made public. “It is painfully troubling to us that this teen driver and the teen backseat passenger were terrified and drove around deputies who approached the vehicle with guns drawn. Believe your own eyes,” Crump said in a statement according to Click Orlando. “The video shows the deputy was still shooting as the car cleared him and posed no threat.”

Both Santiago-Miranda and Hendren were put on paid administrative leave as the case is being investigated. The sheriff’s office is currently investigating whether the vehicle the teens were driving in was indeed the stolen vehicle they were looking for.

According to CNN, the state attorney’s office released a statement expressing its “sincere condolences to the family and friends of these two young men as they struggle to deal with this painful tragedy. We understand and share their desire to know what took place, and that every aspect of this incident will be carefully reviewed.”

The statement went on to say that the state attorney’s office will “determine whether a criminal violation of Florida law has occurred, whether any person may be held criminally responsible, and whether such criminal responsibility can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.”

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) released a statement announcing it is currently investigating the shooting. “We continue to conduct interviews and hope to be finished with the initial interviews soon,” the FDLE’s statement read. “Once we have completed our investigative reports, we provide that information to the state attorney’s office and they determine whether or not charges will be filed. FDLE’s investigation is limited to the officer’s use of force.”

Ivey wrote in the Facebook post that the FDLE’s findings could be sent to the state attorney’s office within the next 60-90 days.

A vigil for both of the teens took place in Cocoa on Wednesday night. The families of both teens were in attendance and expressed the shock and outrage they continue to feel as a result of the shooting.

Qausheda Pierce, Pierce’s mother, told Click Orlando she’s “looking for a little closure,” and wants “some answers.”

“I was angry about it, I was angry because I miss him,” Crooms’ mother Tasha Strachan told Click Orlando. “I want answers to why that was done, it didn’t have to be done like that.”

Charity Baxter, Crooms’ cousin, told the news outlet that she can only imagine the fear her cousin must have felt in his final moment.
 
It really doesn't look like they were trying to hit him.

I saw this yesterday. It looks like they were attempting to go around the second police car through the grass. The two care were blocking the street.The officer put himself in a bad position but I honestly don't think the kids were trying to hit him. I'll need to watch it again but it also looks like the officer was walking towards the car. Unfortunately the officer potentially got scared and fired. At least that is what he will claim and get off with.

The only real issue i have is they are claiming the car was stolen but don't know yet. So why were they stopping them in the first place.
 
I dint know what tge hell was on their minds stop the fucking car take the time and move on with your life im tired of seeing my folk putting their lives in the hands of people who mean them nothing but harm in these situations

I feel exactly the same as you!
 
I saw this yesterday. It looks like they were attempting to go around the second police car through the grass. The two care were blocking the street.The officer put himself in a bad position but I honestly don't think the kids were trying to hit him. I'll need to watch it again but it also looks like the officer was walking towards the car. Unfortunately the officer potentially got scared and fired. At least that is what he will claim and get off with.

The only real issue i have is they are claiming the car was stolen but don't know yet. So why were they stopping them in the first place.
Two sides to the story. The officer may have put himself in dangerous but we know for sure the driver put himself and his passenger in dangerous by even moving in the direction of that officer.
 
It really doesn't look like they were trying to hit him.


That's a tough argument. They could've just fucking stop. I never believe in the argument "the vehicle was coming at me so I had to shoot to save my life." Killing the driver of a moving vehicle doesn't cause the vehicle to immediately stop, the bottom line is that cops be looking for a reason to shoot black folk. But we can't be giving them a reasonable argument.
 
Two sides to the story. The officer may have put himself in dangerous but we know for sure the driver put himself and his passenger in dangerous by even moving in the direction of that officer.

Considering the driver is died there is only one side. I'm not debating necessarily if the officer was right or wrong. End of the day he may have honestly believed his life was in danger. I more than likely would have done the same thing if I were negligent enough to put myself in a dangerous situation. Why move towards a moving vehicle you believe is a potential threat.

I'm not sure if it was true or it was just in the comments section but they said supposedly there were guns in the car. This could explain why the driver didn't want to stop. Not the smart thing to do but kids do dumb shit.

I'm still curious about why they were stopped if they aren't sure the car was stolen and why it was/is taking so long to figure it out.
 
Damn:smh: For a split second, I thought he was going for the cop, but he was just trying to get out of there.

That being said, this one is on the driver. Just stop! You have two CAC cops w/ their guns drawn. You know nothing good comes from that.
 
Considering the driver is died there is only one side. I'm not debating necessarily if the officer was right or wrong. End of the day he may have honestly believed his life was in danger. I more than likely would have done the same thing if I were negligent enough to put myself in a dangerous situation. Why move towards a moving vehicle you believe is a potential threat.

I'm not sure if it was true or it was just in the comments section but they said supposedly there were guns in the car. This could explain why the driver didn't want to stop. Not the smart thing to do but kids do dumb shit.

I'm still curious about why they were stopped if they aren't sure the car was stolen and why it was/is taking so long to figure it out.
Naw it's two side to the story because we can see and analyze for ourselves what actions took place between the officers and the driver.

As far as the officer putting himself in dangerous. Really that's an oxymoron considering the occupation. One things is for sure these cops are going to be cleared.
 
Naw it's two side to the story because we can see and analyze for ourselves what actions took place between the officers and the driver.

As far as the officer putting himself in dangerous. Really that's an oxymoron considering the occupation. One things is for sure these cops are going to be cleared.


He meant putting himself in danger by standing in front of the vehicle. Let's say the cop didn't have a gun or it was against policy to shoot at a moving vehicle unless you are returning fire or the vehicle was about to run over innocent pedestrians. I bet he would avoid standing in front of a moving vehicle.
 
He meant putting himself in danger by standing in front of the vehicle. Let's say the cop didn't have a gun or it was against policy to shoot at a moving vehicle unless you are returning fire or the vehicle was about to run over innocent pedestrians. I bet he would avoid standing in front of a moving vehicle.
I know exactly what he's saying.
 
Naw it's two side to the story because we can see and analyze for ourselves what actions took place between the officers and the driver.

As far as the officer putting himself in dangerous. Really that's an oxymoron considering the occupation. One things is for sure these cops are going to be cleared.

Dangerous job or not you are trained to handle situations especially if you can lose your life or endanger the lives of others by making careless mistakes. Their job is not the only one that is dangerous, requires you to follow procedures and hopefully properly train you.The next question the arises are what are the procedures for these types of situations. For example, here officers are not allowed to chase cars. Had the kid gotten away the officers would have had to stop the pursuit. In the comments section someone claiming to be in law enforcement stated the officer would have been wrong were they where from as far as following the procedure.

We are the audience and we clearly aren't going to be called into court to say what happened. The officer will and video will be used as his defense. The problem is his version is clearly going to say he feared for his life. The kid is dead and can't say that was not his intent to harm the officer. This is one sided. Had the kid lived he could have attempted to use the same video to claim he was trying around the officer.

Either way like you said I also believe the officers will be cleared and at the end of the day the kids should have stopped the car.
 
Dangerous job or not you are trained to handle situations especially if you can lose your life or endanger the lives of others by making careless mistakes. Their job is not the only one that is dangerous, requires you to follow procedures and hopefully properly train you.The next question the arises are what are the procedures for these types of situations. For example, here officers are not allowed to chase cars. Had the kid gotten away the officers would have had to stop the pursuit. In the comments section someone claiming to be in law enforcement stated the officer would have been wrong were they where from as far as following the procedure.

We are the audience and we clearly aren't going to be called into court to say what happened. The officer will and video will be used as his defense. The problem is his version is clearly going to say he feared for his life. The kid is dead and can't say that was not his intent to harm the officer. This is one sided. Had the kid lived he could have attempted to use the same video to claim he was trying around the officer.

Either way like you said I also believe the officers will be cleared and at the end of the day the kids should have stopped the car.
Officers are allowed to chase car under certain circumstances. Thee is absolute law or regulation on the books anywhere that says cops can not chase cars period. We have no idea what information they were given or not given. The Monday quaterbacking can be done for both but only one gets to go home. Let's be clear about something.
You can come up with all the excuses you want dumb kids doing dumb things. If you are told to stop and there cops points guns at you. You stop and believe they will shoot you if you don't and they are more than likely to get away with shooting you regardless of any mistakes on their part or failure to follow procedures, departments rules, etc....
So it is in your best interest not to "not to be a dumb kid, doing dumb things".
 
Officers are allowed to chase car under certain circumstances. Thee is absolute law or regulation on the books anywhere that says cops can not chase cars period. We have no idea what information they were given or not given. The Monday quaterbacking can be done for both but only one gets to go home. Let's be clear about something.
You can come up with all the excuses you want dumb kids doing dumb things. If you are told to stop and there cops points guns at you. You stop and believe they will shoot you if you don't and they are more than likely to get away with shooting you regardless of any mistakes on their part or failure to follow procedures, departments rules, etc....
So it is in your best interest not to "not to be a dumb kid, doing dumb things".

Again I'm not saying the officer will be charged with anything and I'm in agreement that the kids should have stopped the car. My question at this point is what is the procedure, was it followed and why were the kids officially stopped.

What excuses am I coming up with? Your statement was there are two sides to a story where clearly we will not hear the dead kids version that lead to his death and the most important factor of his intent as the driver and why he didn't stop will not be heard. We know the officers version will be they asked the car to stop and when that didn't happen i fearfully shot at the car.

Next and correct me if i wrong but you are also saying because the job is dangerous the officer gets some wiggle room to not follow the proper procedures that were created to ensure their safety as well as the safety of others.

Given what we are seeing in this video, the officers would not have had any reason to pursue that vehicle long-term. The department is claiming they don't even know if the car was stolen to begin with. For all purposes you have some scared kids who saw guns pointing at them and where trying not to get shot.

I can't say of the officer was right or wrong given that I'm not aware of their procedures. However, from the video it appears like the officer placed himself in harms way. There does not seem to be any danger to the officer or anyone. To be fair to the officer, if you see a car moving near you and it could be a threat you're likely to respond in the same way.
 
Ugggh....

Why put yourself in front of the car, confidently walking with your gun drawn....only to claim fear of your life when they were trying to go around you?!

I'm tired of these cops getting their KAN cards on our youth!!!

And then to say after the fact that you're not sure the car was stolen.....?!
 
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The initial investigation suggests the shot was an accidental discharge from a gun carried by a 16-year-old attending the service, according to WKMG News 6, citing Brevard County Sheriff's Office. BCSO said the bullet penetrated the 16-year-old's leg and then struck Quasheda Pierce, the mother of the teen being buried, WKMG reported.
 
Kids panicked and was killed. We need better training from law enforcement and for our young men.

I personally feel as if they stopped the car and put it in park, he still would have opened fire.
 
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