Joe Biden is now POTUS
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That should have been obvious. It plays in out many ways.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by 2M votes and end up with 306 EC votes.
Biden is going to win the popular vote by 7M votes and end up with 306 EC votes.
That plays out in the House too. The game is rigged for rural white land-owners (always has) and it's getting even worse. It's all set up for white minority rule to continue.
They're always centering them. Even calling them "The Heartland". They'd never survive without the coasts subsidizing them.
And now an update from everyone's favorite lawyer/handler
thehill.com
Giuliani: Trump was being 'sarcastic' with tweet saying Biden won
President Trump’s personal attorney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claimed on Sunday that the president was being “sarcastic” in an earlier tweet seemingly acknowledging that President-elect Joe Biden had “won.”
Serious question.. Did you take math past 3rd grade?
If Jimmy represents 500 people And Johnny represents 5,000,000 people... who represents the largest population?
Which population has more representation?
HINT:
One has one representative for every 500 people. One ONLY has a representative for every 5 million people.
States that has a population of under one million shouldn’t have more than one senate representative. Or the high populated states should have more than two.
Or both should happen. Regardless, these senate to state ratios are way fucked up.
It crazy that the county I live in alone has more people, than states like Alaska, North/South Dakota, etc... Yet dude wants to say we have equal representation.
You had cacs collecting subsidy $ for property that used to be farm land but we are about to have an epic battle about giving middle income people another $1,200 during a fucking pandemic.
Way. And per usual, its all based in concepts of race based oppression.
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They are indeed a bunch of clever devilish bastards.
And they produce nothing. And add nothing to the coffers... They literally are a bunch of land grant states that live off of federal subsidies and grants. They solely exist to maintain legislative power for a once white majority. This country is amazing my man...
Bro, you totally off topic. The article was about the senate seats and senate seats only. All the states get two senators. Black people weren't even voting when this shit was done. You're confusing house seats or electoral votes. Go back and read the fucking article and quit spreading these dumb ass theories. You have no fucking idea of what your talking about. And people are cosigning this non sense.
Some Americans can’t stomach someone not them thriving.You had cacs collecting subsidy $ for property that used to be farm land but we are about to have an epic battle about giving middle income people another $1,200 during a fucking pandemic.
Nigga, are you serious? You started your replies talking about tie-breaking votes and that shit had nothing to do with the post
You didn't even understand the topic of the post you responded to.
It was about representation. If you understood that you wouldn't have added the stupid VP tie-breaking point because it doesn't add anything to the point of the article. It wasn't about Senate control. It was about raw population representation.
No shit dumbass. That's the point of the article and illustrating why it's fundamentally broken because of population dispersion.
You fucking idiot I gave you the example of the electoral college votes to give you yet another example of how white rural voters are over-represented. It's in house voting, senate representation, and in the EC. The entire stack is rigged to overvalue white rural voters. You have a reading comprehension issue that's apparent from your first response giving the VP tie-break example and it was irrelevant to the article
All you had to do what say " I added an irrelevant point about the VP tie-breaker point" and keep it moving, idiot. Everyone in this thread already knew that irrelevant fac.t
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Black people were even fucking voting clown. It's not suppose to be even fool. The House is. You have no fucking clue how the branches work. The Supreme Court has nothing to do with the article. You talking out yo ass confused again. Supreme Court picks have nothing to do with representation. You control the senate you pick the judges when there open spots. They will never change the senate fool. Small states would get fucked. Black people came from the south in those small states. You don't know your history.
GOP has exploited this. They literally split Dakota into two states in order to get 2 more senate seats. They're always playing the long game.
When Adding New States Helped the Republicans
Putting new stars on the U.S. flag has always been political. But D.C. statehood is a modest partisan ploy compared with the mass admission of underpopulated western territories—which boosts the GOP even 130 years later.www.theatlantic.com
They were never one state clown. You lying again. They were split when they got their statehood. The Dakota territory was Nebraska, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, and Nebraska. That's too big clown. It was never two states. Stop lying. Again, you don't know what you talking about.
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Biden Fills Economic Posts With Experts on Systemic Racism
Previous administrations haven’t made race scholarship such a clear priority.
www.bloomberg.com
Nigga, are you serious? You started your replies talking about tie-breaking votes and that shit had nothing to do with the post
You didn't even understand the topic of the post you responded to.
It was about representation. If you understood that couldn't have added the stupid VP tie-breaking point because it doesn't add anything to the point of the article. It wasn't about Senate control. It was about raw population representation.
No shit dumbass. That's the point of the article and illustrating why it's fundamentally broken because of population dispersion.
You fucking idiot I gave you the example of the electoral college votes. You have a reading comprehension issue that's apparent from your first response giving the VP tie-break example and it was irrelevant to the article
Stop back tracking with yo clown ass. You had no fucking idea of what the article was even talking about. Jumping in with that every body knows the VP is the head of the senate shit. Pulling electoral votes out yo ass homie. You commented on my post clown. I was speaking on the article and the senate. You sounding real fucking dumb right now. You might have these niggaz fooled but you not the brightest dude. Shit was done way back when black people were slaves. FOH
I just consulted with the late Roger Mayweather and he told me that:
"Most people do not know shit about geograqphy. Lake Erie just
relocated next to Washington DC"
You're a raging idiot. Even after fucup gave you another simple example, you still don't get what the article is about
The "tangible team" aint gonna pay no attention to this AT ALL.Biden Fills Economic Posts With Experts on Systemic Racism
Previous administrations haven’t made race scholarship such a clear priority.
Dumb nigga always laughing to try to hide how fucking dumb they are. Here's the article. Show me clown? Show me the shit on representatives or the electoral college you pulling out yo ass.
America’s anti-democratic Senate, by the numbers
If the United States chose its leaders in free and fair elections, Republicans would be firmly out of power.
www.vox.com
OMG. This nigga thought when people use the word "REPRESENTATION", they're talking about the House of Representatives.
YOU DUMB ASS NIGGA WE'RE TALKING THE LITERAL WORD: REPRESENTATION.
The article has it right in the headlines. THE GOP, if the DEMs win in the seats in GA, could have an equal number of Senate seats but "represent" 40M fewer citizens
When people later mentioned The House of Representatives and the Electoral College to you, it was to give you two more examples where the GOP over indexes.... where they also require fewer votes to have majority control (just like the Senate).
Nigga, you need to have some warm milk and go to sleep. You don't even realize how fucking stupid you look right now.
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OMG. This nigga thought when people use the word "REPRESENTATION", they're talking about the House of Representatives.
YOU DUMB ASS NIGGA WE'RE TALKING THE LITERAL WORD: REPRESENTATION.
The article has it right in the headlines. THE GOP, if the DEMs win in the seats in GA, could have an equal number of Senate seats but "represent" 40M fewer citizens
lmao
aint no rules in street fights.
Man. I'm literally screaming. I thought he was thinking that by the way he responded to @4 Dimensional. Then, he responded to me and was crying
OMG. This nigga thought when people use the word "REPRESENTATION", they're talking about the House of Representatives.
YOU DUMB ASS NIGGA WE'RE TALKING THE LITERAL WORD: REPRESENTATION.
The article has it right in the headlines. THE GOP, if the DEMs win in the seats in GA, could have an equal number of Senate seats but "represent" 40M fewer citizens
You a dumb nigga Bro. Shit ain't funny. Nigga think they only allow two senators to fuck over black people when we couldn't even vote. They are saying 50 democratic senators will represent 40 million people if they win the seats. They questioning the constitution clown ass nigga. The house is representation by population clown. That is why the call they called them representatives dumb fuck. I'mma stop because I can't save yo dumb ass and the dumb niggaz that cosign dumb shit. Please just go join the dumb ass Trump supporters. Or just stop voting before you fuck us all up.
Man. I'm literally screaming. I thought he was thinking that by the way he responded to @4 Dimensional. Then, he responded to me and was crying
He never read pass this " the Senate will be split 50-50"
yo. The ego is a muthafucka, man. He’s still arguing when all he needed to do is admit he was just adding another point...irrelevant, but a separate point. Now he’s ranting. I’m not even going to reply to him again, but his other reply had my abs burning
Want a Preview of President Biden? Look to the Campaign Trail
He is returning to a Washington he knows well. And the path he took to get back offers a road map for how he’ll govern.
President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. will bring his own set of instincts and convictions to the White House in January.Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
By Katie Glueck and Thomas Kaplan
Like President George H.W. Bush, he respects American political traditions, and with President Barack Obama, he shares eight years of history, experiences and some Washington battle scars.
But when Mr. Biden enters the White House in January, after four turbulent years of the Trump presidency and a chaotic transition period, he will bring with him his own set of instincts.
He has honed the ways he operates in Washington over 36 years as a senator and eight years as vice president. Based on his actions and attitudes throughout his most recent 18 months as a presidential candidate, here are four key elements of how Mr. Biden may approach governing come January, 48 years after he first arrived in Washington.
Joe Biden consults experts, elected officials and his inner circle.
Image
Mr. Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris meeting with their coronavirus advisory board in Wilmington, Del., last week.Credit...Amr Alfiky/The New York Times
Mr. Biden relied this year on a blend of expert opinion and conversations with elected officials across the country as he formulated his plans to confront the extraordinary public health and economic crises at hand, offering a glimpse of the kinds of input that may influence his decision-making as president.
When the pandemic hit, Mr. Biden’s instinct was to get on the phone.
Even though he had no power to enact policy, Mr. Biden made a point of maintaining relationships with mayors, senators and governors, calling them often and sprinkling his public remarks with references to what he had learned about their experiences. It was in keeping with the role he played as vice president, where he often was the Obama administration’s best liaison to Capitol Hill, and it reflected the respect that the longtime Delaware senator has for other elected officials.
At the same time, a core part of Mr. Biden’s message throughout the general election was that, as president, he would listen to the experts when it came to confronting the nation’s greatest challenges.
Some allies thought he did too much of that during the campaign, believing that he could have devoted more time, in person or virtually, to key battleground states rather than to the hours he spent receiving briefings on the virus and the economy even in the final days of the race.
But now he will enter the White House with an established cadre of advisers on those key subjects.
Yet for all of the expert advice Mr. Biden will have available to him from the White House, his outlook is also influenced, in broad terms, by a core inner circle of aides, advisers and a few family members — namely, his wife and his sister — who have offered counsel to him for decades.
Last week, he named Ron Klain, an operative who first started working for Mr. Biden in the 1980s, to be his chief of staff. But he has also promised to assemble a diverse administration, and he is particularly focused on building out the ranks of federal government that have been depleted under Mr. Trump.
“You want the steadiness, the experience and the confidence of those old hands that have been around,” former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said of Mr. Biden’s calculations around his administration. “But you also want new energy, new ideas, fresh faces, to bring them up. They’re the next generation. I think that’s the way Joe will look at it.”
He can be loose with deadlines.
Image
Mr. Biden missed self-imposed deadlines in his vice-presidential search process before naming Ms. Harris his running mate. Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
At key inflection points throughout the campaign, Mr. Biden wanted to take in as much information as possible.
And then, he waited.
Mr. Biden ultimately is decisive, his allies argue, saying that he is not the kind of person to second-guess or to walk back a promise once he has arrived at a deal in a negotiation. But on major political and personnel decisions, at least, he has demonstrated that he cannot be rushed.
Nowhere was this clearer than during the vice-presidential search process, when Mr. Biden missed one self-imposed deadline after the next to name his running mate, before ultimately deciding on Senator Kamala Harris. In her, he found someone he trusted to be a loyal ally, who shared his outlook on governing and who also possessed political strengths that he lacked.
That dynamic may be instructive for how his cabinet member announcements and other personnel choices play out in coming weeks, as Mr. Biden thoroughly assesses his options and also grapples with the political constraints of a potentially Republican-controlled Senate.
People who have worked with Mr. Biden or know him personally describe him as a gut politician in some ways, but one whose instincts are shaped by conversations with close advisers and allies, by peppering aides with questions and by soliciting a range of opinions, whether from experts in a particular field or from trusted friends and supporters across the country.
“I think he truly tries to get input, get all the perspectives, understand the pros and the cons,” Representative Debbie Dingell, Democrat of Michigan, said of his decision-making habits broadly. “He had people that gave him the perspectives of different people, and then he would make his own decision.”
Mr. Biden has suggested that he may name a handful of cabinet member choices by around Thanksgiving — setting up an early test of whether his self-imposed deadlines are any more accurate as president-elect than they were when he was a candidate.
He’s a man of the Senate at heart — but whether the Senate likes him back is an open question.
Image
Mr. Biden’s experience in the Senate defined his political outlook.Credit...Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
Mr. Biden has been vice president of the United States, an elder statesman of his party and now, president-elect.
But in many ways he is, at heart, still a senator from Delaware, who sometimes slipped into the parlance of floor speeches (he referred to Senator Elizabeth Warren on the debate stage last year as his “distinguished friend”) and cited Senate mentors from decades ago on the campaign trail throughout the 2020 race.
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Continue reading the main story
His experience in the Senate defined his political outlook — one that prizes consensus, civility and bipartisanship as essential to at least some progress — and helps explain why he will enter the White House with great respect for Congress. His insistence that he could “lower the temperature” politically was a central part of his pitch throughout the race, and he relished dismissing Democrats who called such an outlook naïve.
The question is whether Mr. Biden’s views will be reciprocated by Republicans on Capitol Hill, some of whom are currently refusing to recognize the legitimacy of his election.
“He knows the Senate — these are personal friends of his, unlike other presidents that didn’t have that type of relationship,” said former Senator John Breaux, Democrat of Louisiana. “To an extent, Obama didn’t, either. Joe has been there over 30 years. He knows the leaders on the Republican side. I think he’s going to be reaching out to them, as well as Democratic leadership.”
When Mr. Biden declared victory last weekend, he claimed that “part of the mandate” he had received from the American people was to facilitate finding common ground.
“They want us to cooperate in their interest, and that’s the choice I’ll make,” he said. “And I’ll call on Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, to make that choice with me.”
Whatever the response, Mr. Biden has also offered a long list of executive actions he plans to take on his first day in office.
Joe Biden has a mandate to be Joe Biden.
Image
Mr. Biden greeting voters in Peterborough, N.H., last year. His ability to connect with people experiencing grief is one of his most distinctive attributes.Credit...Elizabeth Frantz for The New York Times
After four years with President Trump in the White House, Mr. Biden promises, in many respects, a return to the past norms and traditions that have typically defined the office.
Do not expect to see Mr. Biden use his Twitter account to fire members of his cabinet, chime in on television news coverage or make sudden policy pronouncements. In fact, his campaign team claimed to disdain Twitter, arguing that it was a poor measure of the views of most Americans.
Do expect to see a president who embraces the traditional role of serving as consoler in chief in times of tragedy. Mr. Biden’s ability to connect with people experiencing grief is one of his most distinctive attributes as a politician, following a car accident that killed his first wife and a baby daughter in 1972, and the death of his elder son, Beau Biden, in 2015.
On Veterans Day last week, he visited the Philadelphia Korean War Memorial, and he takes care to show respect for those who serve in uniform.
Rarely did Mr. Biden grow as visibly angry on the campaign trail as when he cited Mr. Trump’s reported comments about fallen soldiers. Mr. Biden carries in his suit jacket a card that lists, among other things, the precise number of U.S. troops who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he routinely ends his remarks by saying, “May God protect our troops.”
But for all of Mr. Biden’s regard for American institutions — the courts, Congress, the military — he is also a colorful figure in American politics with a vivid personality that Americans and world leaders will now see up close.
He is known for his empathy but is also capable of growing so defensive that during a testy exchange, he once appeared to call a voter “fat” (which his campaign disputed) and issued a challenge to do push-ups. He is brimming with “Bidenisms” and with assorted wisdom that he attributes to various relatives and long-dead colleagues, and is deeply proud of his Irish Catholic roots in Scranton, Pa.
“Look me over,” Mr. Biden has urged voters over the years. “If you like what you see, help out. If not, vote for the other guy.”
This time around, enough American voters liked what they saw. Now they, and the world, are about to get a much closer look.
He is returning to a Washington he knows well. And the path he took to get back offers a road map for how he’ll govern.
President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. will bring his own set of instincts and convictions to the White House in January.Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
By Katie Glueck and Thomas Kaplan
- Nov. 15, 2020, 3:00 a.m. ET
Like President George H.W. Bush, he respects American political traditions, and with President Barack Obama, he shares eight years of history, experiences and some Washington battle scars.
But when Mr. Biden enters the White House in January, after four turbulent years of the Trump presidency and a chaotic transition period, he will bring with him his own set of instincts.
He has honed the ways he operates in Washington over 36 years as a senator and eight years as vice president. Based on his actions and attitudes throughout his most recent 18 months as a presidential candidate, here are four key elements of how Mr. Biden may approach governing come January, 48 years after he first arrived in Washington.
Joe Biden consults experts, elected officials and his inner circle.
Image
Mr. Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris meeting with their coronavirus advisory board in Wilmington, Del., last week.Credit...Amr Alfiky/The New York Times
Mr. Biden relied this year on a blend of expert opinion and conversations with elected officials across the country as he formulated his plans to confront the extraordinary public health and economic crises at hand, offering a glimpse of the kinds of input that may influence his decision-making as president.
When the pandemic hit, Mr. Biden’s instinct was to get on the phone.
Even though he had no power to enact policy, Mr. Biden made a point of maintaining relationships with mayors, senators and governors, calling them often and sprinkling his public remarks with references to what he had learned about their experiences. It was in keeping with the role he played as vice president, where he often was the Obama administration’s best liaison to Capitol Hill, and it reflected the respect that the longtime Delaware senator has for other elected officials.
At the same time, a core part of Mr. Biden’s message throughout the general election was that, as president, he would listen to the experts when it came to confronting the nation’s greatest challenges.
Some allies thought he did too much of that during the campaign, believing that he could have devoted more time, in person or virtually, to key battleground states rather than to the hours he spent receiving briefings on the virus and the economy even in the final days of the race.
But now he will enter the White House with an established cadre of advisers on those key subjects.
Yet for all of the expert advice Mr. Biden will have available to him from the White House, his outlook is also influenced, in broad terms, by a core inner circle of aides, advisers and a few family members — namely, his wife and his sister — who have offered counsel to him for decades.
Last week, he named Ron Klain, an operative who first started working for Mr. Biden in the 1980s, to be his chief of staff. But he has also promised to assemble a diverse administration, and he is particularly focused on building out the ranks of federal government that have been depleted under Mr. Trump.
“You want the steadiness, the experience and the confidence of those old hands that have been around,” former Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said of Mr. Biden’s calculations around his administration. “But you also want new energy, new ideas, fresh faces, to bring them up. They’re the next generation. I think that’s the way Joe will look at it.”
He can be loose with deadlines.
Image
Mr. Biden missed self-imposed deadlines in his vice-presidential search process before naming Ms. Harris his running mate. Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Times
At key inflection points throughout the campaign, Mr. Biden wanted to take in as much information as possible.
And then, he waited.
Mr. Biden ultimately is decisive, his allies argue, saying that he is not the kind of person to second-guess or to walk back a promise once he has arrived at a deal in a negotiation. But on major political and personnel decisions, at least, he has demonstrated that he cannot be rushed.
Nowhere was this clearer than during the vice-presidential search process, when Mr. Biden missed one self-imposed deadline after the next to name his running mate, before ultimately deciding on Senator Kamala Harris. In her, he found someone he trusted to be a loyal ally, who shared his outlook on governing and who also possessed political strengths that he lacked.
That dynamic may be instructive for how his cabinet member announcements and other personnel choices play out in coming weeks, as Mr. Biden thoroughly assesses his options and also grapples with the political constraints of a potentially Republican-controlled Senate.
People who have worked with Mr. Biden or know him personally describe him as a gut politician in some ways, but one whose instincts are shaped by conversations with close advisers and allies, by peppering aides with questions and by soliciting a range of opinions, whether from experts in a particular field or from trusted friends and supporters across the country.
“I think he truly tries to get input, get all the perspectives, understand the pros and the cons,” Representative Debbie Dingell, Democrat of Michigan, said of his decision-making habits broadly. “He had people that gave him the perspectives of different people, and then he would make his own decision.”
Mr. Biden has suggested that he may name a handful of cabinet member choices by around Thanksgiving — setting up an early test of whether his self-imposed deadlines are any more accurate as president-elect than they were when he was a candidate.
He’s a man of the Senate at heart — but whether the Senate likes him back is an open question.
Image
Mr. Biden’s experience in the Senate defined his political outlook.Credit...Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
Mr. Biden has been vice president of the United States, an elder statesman of his party and now, president-elect.
But in many ways he is, at heart, still a senator from Delaware, who sometimes slipped into the parlance of floor speeches (he referred to Senator Elizabeth Warren on the debate stage last year as his “distinguished friend”) and cited Senate mentors from decades ago on the campaign trail throughout the 2020 race.
ADVERTISEMENT
Continue reading the main story
His experience in the Senate defined his political outlook — one that prizes consensus, civility and bipartisanship as essential to at least some progress — and helps explain why he will enter the White House with great respect for Congress. His insistence that he could “lower the temperature” politically was a central part of his pitch throughout the race, and he relished dismissing Democrats who called such an outlook naïve.
The question is whether Mr. Biden’s views will be reciprocated by Republicans on Capitol Hill, some of whom are currently refusing to recognize the legitimacy of his election.
“He knows the Senate — these are personal friends of his, unlike other presidents that didn’t have that type of relationship,” said former Senator John Breaux, Democrat of Louisiana. “To an extent, Obama didn’t, either. Joe has been there over 30 years. He knows the leaders on the Republican side. I think he’s going to be reaching out to them, as well as Democratic leadership.”
When Mr. Biden declared victory last weekend, he claimed that “part of the mandate” he had received from the American people was to facilitate finding common ground.
“They want us to cooperate in their interest, and that’s the choice I’ll make,” he said. “And I’ll call on Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, to make that choice with me.”
Whatever the response, Mr. Biden has also offered a long list of executive actions he plans to take on his first day in office.
Joe Biden has a mandate to be Joe Biden.
Image
Mr. Biden greeting voters in Peterborough, N.H., last year. His ability to connect with people experiencing grief is one of his most distinctive attributes.Credit...Elizabeth Frantz for The New York Times
After four years with President Trump in the White House, Mr. Biden promises, in many respects, a return to the past norms and traditions that have typically defined the office.
Do not expect to see Mr. Biden use his Twitter account to fire members of his cabinet, chime in on television news coverage or make sudden policy pronouncements. In fact, his campaign team claimed to disdain Twitter, arguing that it was a poor measure of the views of most Americans.
Do expect to see a president who embraces the traditional role of serving as consoler in chief in times of tragedy. Mr. Biden’s ability to connect with people experiencing grief is one of his most distinctive attributes as a politician, following a car accident that killed his first wife and a baby daughter in 1972, and the death of his elder son, Beau Biden, in 2015.
On Veterans Day last week, he visited the Philadelphia Korean War Memorial, and he takes care to show respect for those who serve in uniform.
Rarely did Mr. Biden grow as visibly angry on the campaign trail as when he cited Mr. Trump’s reported comments about fallen soldiers. Mr. Biden carries in his suit jacket a card that lists, among other things, the precise number of U.S. troops who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he routinely ends his remarks by saying, “May God protect our troops.”
But for all of Mr. Biden’s regard for American institutions — the courts, Congress, the military — he is also a colorful figure in American politics with a vivid personality that Americans and world leaders will now see up close.
He is known for his empathy but is also capable of growing so defensive that during a testy exchange, he once appeared to call a voter “fat” (which his campaign disputed) and issued a challenge to do push-ups. He is brimming with “Bidenisms” and with assorted wisdom that he attributes to various relatives and long-dead colleagues, and is deeply proud of his Irish Catholic roots in Scranton, Pa.
“Look me over,” Mr. Biden has urged voters over the years. “If you like what you see, help out. If not, vote for the other guy.”
This time around, enough American voters liked what they saw. Now they, and the world, are about to get a much closer look.
Crazy how accurately he called what we're seeing now
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