Joe Biden is now POTUS

Senator Joe Manchin III, D-W.Va., tweeted Monday that he will not back his party's calls to pack the Supreme Court or eliminate the filibuster rule if Democrats are able to win control of the Senate. Senator Manchin told 'Special Report with Bret Baier' Monday afternoon that he is a proud "moderate conservative Democrat," and that it must be understood that not every elected member of the party supports the progressive wing's policy priorities. The West Virginia senator also added on Twitter, "If you get rid of the filibuster, there's no reason to have a Senate." https://fxn.ws/38wu8On

Primary this bitch.
 
They don't have enough Senate seats. That's a wrap. Hope Thomas dies and Breyer retires. Hope he learned from Ginsberg's fuck up on staying too long. If you live in GA vote hard, and then it's a different discussion.
Thomas - Judge Clarence Thomas? Funny you should mention because if Trump does get this before the Supreme Court...





Ooooh and fast forward to @3:01 seconds to see my point :eek2::eek::oops::oops::oops:
 
Hahahaha.

If you turned the words Cane Corso on their side and stood them up the letters would be taller than you pipsqueak.


As for the other part....I've posted this before but I guess it can't hurt to post it again:

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My fault big dawg

I forgot


You gat it.
 
Pelosi needs to go. She had historic losses on her watch last time. She's well on her way to a repeat. You'll never do well shitting on the base of your party and she clearly doesn't respect the progressive side of her party. The GOP harnesses all that energy to win races. Pelosi suppresses her own base. She might know how to legislate and raise funds but she's average at best at campaigning.


I'm with that. Pelosi can't be the leader that takes the party into the future and the future is now. She also cannot be regarded as a leader/speaker, because she cannot recognize her own flaws that suppresses the voice of her party, while oppressing and not siding with the very same constituents that support the party. It's at a break point and if Hakeem Jeffries is there to do the same, he cannot be the next speaker either. This is a prime opportunity for this to truly become the party of the people vs these long standing populist Republicans and out of sight Dems. They're all about upholding the corporate power structure, populist sentiments, racism, etc.. It has to go, through voting or we revisit history. Most of us 35 - 40 plus have another 40 years max to make a lasting impact with our activism. I believe, we're at that point.
 
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I'm with that. Pelosi can't be the leader that takes the party into the future and the future is now. She also cannot be regarded as a leader/speaker, because she cannot recognize her own flaws that suppresses the voice of her party, while oppressing and siding the very same constituents that support the party. It's at a break point and if Hakeem Jeffries is there to do the same, he cannot be the next speaker either. This is a prime opportunity for this to truly become the party of the people vs these long standing populist Republicans and out of sight Dems. They're all about upholding the corporate power structure, populist sentiments, racism, etc.. It has to go, through voting or we revisit history. Most of us 35 - 40 plus have another 40 years max to make a lasting impact with our activism. I believe, we're at that point.
That's well intentioned dream.

But fact of the matter is - Americans do NOT want that. They've let the word "socialism" become the new scare word. Americans would rather work long hard hours for less pay, and have to pay out the ass for healthcare rather than have access to it.
Here's the proof, just watch the vid

 


You know the state polls were screwed up because of lying Caucasians but The national poll was almost on point or is on point so again we need to get rid of the electoral college bullshit.

I suspect the reason the polls were off were because the way they're weighted. The gold standard of polling is the live phone call and only the networks and large newspapers have that type of money. In order to get the results of a 1000 person poll, they need to call 4K people. Those 1,000 people who answer the phone won't match the demographics of the community so the pollsters have to place a certain weight on the people to make up the difference. A white person with college may count as much as 1.25% of a non-educated white man. I think that's where the problem lies.

I don't think we should expect a white man with a degree in business from the University of Phoenix to think like someone with a chemistry PHD from the top state university. There is a significant difference in IQ there. We know that someone with more education tends to be more liberal but I don't necessary think that takes hold until we get to the graduate level. I'm betting there's not a lot of difference in the voting patterns in someone with a bachelor degree in criminal justice and someone working the line at the factory.

I think the most certain way to find out someone's political preference is to ask someone their feelings on black people but I doubt if people would be honest enough.
 
I'm with that. Pelosi can't be the leader that takes the party into the future and the future is now. She also cannot be regarded as a leader/speaker, because she cannot recognize her own flaws that suppresses the voice of her party, while oppressing and siding the very same constituents that support the party. It's at a break point and if Hakeem Jeffries is there to do the same, he cannot be the next speaker either. This is a prime opportunity for this to truly become the party of the people vs these long standing populist Republicans and out of sight Dems. They're all about upholding the corporate power structure, populist sentiments, racism, etc.. It has to go, through voting or we revisit history. Most of us 35 - 40 plus have another 40 years max to make a lasting impact with our activism. I believe, we're at that point.
If y'all think a liberal being the leader will win seats. Then you guys are out of your mind. We are a country made up of 50 states and within those 50 states their are x amount of districts. You will not win seats in most of those districts as a liberal because there are not a lot of safe liberal districts.
The people that lost their seats were not in liberal districts.
So why do you believe a liberal leader will somehow do a better job at winning seats in the house of representative in a country that is center to center right?
 
That's well intentioned dream.

But fact of the matter is - Americans do NOT want that. They've let the word "socialism" become the new scare word. Americans would rather work long hard hours for less pay, and have to pay out the ass for healthcare rather than have access to it.
Here's the proof, just watch the vid


I can understand why that seems like a dream. Some Americans, unfortunately, are not educated and dedicated enough to apply critical thinking or reading comprehension to understand how a policy benefits them before they support a candidate. That takes time. IMO, they've been convinced through fear mongering, lies, and racism. They're more convinced by these fictional scenarios that have no likelihood to manifest into real life experiences. The real effects of the policies that benefit them have never been fully funded and applied in practice. If they see those real life benefits, they're not likely to go against what is ultimately their best interests, but they get swayed by others' opinions (usually inaccurate) and etc.
 


You know the state polls were screwed up because of lying Caucasians but The national poll was almost on point or is on point so again we need to get rid of the electoral college bullshit.


Same as last time. People made a big fuss about the polling but national polls in 2016 pretty much all hit within the margin of error and the midwest was off because it undercounted the uneducated white vote.
 
That's well intentioned dream.

But fact of the matter is - Americans do NOT want that. They've let the word "socialism" become the new scare word. Americans would rather work long hard hours for less pay, and have to pay out the ass for healthcare rather than have access to it.
Here's the proof, just watch the vid



Basically. All my Black friends and family have been killing me about progressive plans being the downfall of the DNC and the house and Senate. At least in my small circle of reality, there does appear to be some angst against more left/progressive plans within the Dem ranks. I don't get it, but hey all I can do is my part.
 
That remains to be seen but enough of these blue dogs. They only dems because of how districts are gerrymandered.

Manchin is the Senate though not the house.. but your point stands about gerrymandering..... GOP has the game hella-rigged. Dems have to win the national vote by 6 points just to break even. They win more statewide votes in certain stays the GOP ends up with a fucking super-majority in the state houses.. shit is bananas. The whole system needs to be nuked.
 
Thomas - Judge Clarence Thomas? Funny you should mention because if Trump does get this before the Supreme Court...





Ooooh and fast forward to @3:01 seconds to see my point :eek2::eek::oops::oops::oops:


Getting this in front of the SC is a fucking pipe dream. Trump is not even arguing fraud anymore. He's saying the 'process is biased".
 
Given the way turnout went in this election, it's not a mystery why Dems lost some House seats. A LOT of Republicans voted, and many of those voted R down ticket and Biden at the top. There weren't many Dem Senate seats in question. Dems picked up the seat in Arizona because Trump shitted on John McCain and the GA seats were almost always going to a runoff. The reality is that the strategy for this election was to increase turnout and that happened...on both sides. The political leanings of the country are pretty much split down the middle right now so it makes sense that the House more closely reflects that after this election.
 
If y'all think a liberal being the leader will win seats. Then you guys are out of your mind. We are a country made up of 50 states and within those 50 states their are x amount of districts. You will not win seats in most of those districts as a liberal because there are not a lot of safe liberal districts.
The people that lost their seats were not in liberal districts.
So why do you believe a liberal leader will somehow do a better job at winning seats in the house of representative in a country that is center to center right?
It's a good point. There are a multitude of reasons why people believe what they believe in these red districts - racism being the starter, but i strongly believe that there's no other way to get our intended outcomes than to restructure the messaging styles and how it benefits them through proper education and real life experiences. Like explaining the differences between liberal and progressives. Democrats and Republicans. There's too much misinformation and ignorance. We're not as educated a society as we would like to think. Dems can continue to try to suppress their growing base and get some intended outcomes in 2070 where hopefully these reflections will be a laughable afterthought to these newer voters who are more supportive of more inclusive policies. That's a small silver lining and opportunity to explore and expand on. It feels that we're at this point in the Avengers where Dr. Strange explored millions of scenarios and said there's only 1 way we win. This may be it, but we have to try.
 
So why do you believe a liberal leader will somehow do a better job at winning seats in the house of representative in a country that is center to center right?

I don't think the political views are as important as how you manage your caucus. The leader doesn't need to be progressive. The leader needs to understand how to harness the power of her base. The GOP would never shit on their right-wing version of AOC.

Also, how in the hell have yall been tricked into thinking the country is CENTER RIGHT? :lol:

If the country was center right the GOP wouldn't consistently lose every national election in terms of the popular vote.

When you look at the polling on issues, the right LOSES on the views. They win on messaging. The GOP knows how to campaign.

Democrats winning 7 out of the 8 last President Elections by millions of vote invalidates any argument that the country is center-right.

Districts are gerrymandered beyond recognition which favors the GOP. The EC overvalues rural white votes so that Dems have to win national elections by 6 points just to be competitive. The Senate is rigged so that all white rural states like North Dakota and South Dakota have 4 Senate seats despite collectively having less people that fucking Brooklyn :smh:

The game is rigged for the right. The country itself isn't right or even center-right.
 
Well he voted against repealing the ACA but
  • "Overall, Senator Manchin has voted with the majority of Senate Republicans on 1,172 different votes or 54% of the votes he has taken as a United States Senator."

@ugk and your comment. I get that he is a disciplined politician but he knows that these are undisciplined times in government. He has seen over and over again how the other side of the aisle imposes their will whether they are the majority and minority party. He has seen how the other side will not work in an honest bi-partisan. I get that the dems want to preserves the institutions but the institutions are only good if all the actors involved work in good faith, have integrity, and are willing to protect and uphold the institutions they were put in charge of. The gop has proven time and time again they don't care about the institution only the power they get from it. In these times we need dems who are willing to do the same. One side always cheats and are never penalized or punished but the side is always expected to do the right thing. As long as this unequal relationship exists the dems owe the gop nothing.
 
Same as last time. People made a big fuss about the polling but national polls in 2016 pretty much all hit within the margin of error and the midwest was off because it undercounted the uneducated white vote.
I replied to an earlier post with white men with non-STEM bachelor degrees from non-selective schools should probably be counted with the uneducated.
 
The Scheme to steal the Republican Party from Republicans in already in the works. Told ya...trumpism is here to stay


Some people know they live in a white supremacist world but are willfully oblivious to the totality of r/ws and how it permeates nearly every aspect of their existence. The sensible conservatives will not stand with Trump so either Trump starts his own party or the conservatives start a new party. The GOP just like Dems are having civil wars within their own parties and the split will come. Get off the ideas of permanence that both parties will still be the same parties in future cycles.
 
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