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They forgot breathing control and natural respiratory pause. Focus on front sight not target. Cut it in half. Don’t anticipate just let it flow naturally. Like breathing. One of my sniper instructors served with Carlos Hathcock. Nickname was Gunny. Finally id’d the other rifle. Mauser Argentina 1891, 7.65. Can’t say I’m not excited about that and the M1. Getting ammo and mags soon to fire. Don’t know if I’ll have to establish a DOPE book on em.
 
Went to the range today & tried the Sig P365 XL. I was very impressed with how easy it was too shoot & didn't have as much recoil as I thought it would based on its size. Definitely no where near as snappy as the Hellcat is. I do have to get used to its grip size though. My shots were off & the rso was like a lot of ppl hold it in a way where their grip is so full that their trigger finger is deeper into the trigger area than it should be resulting in imprecise results. Gonna go back to the range on Friday & try it out again. It'll probably end up being my CCH piece as soon as I get my damn CCH permit.

Do you only use the first pad on your finger or are you hooking the trigger? May help. I can’t find enough ammo to fire the Hellcat yet but some regular 9mm rounds fell out the sky so hopefully soon. Mfs buying ammo like toilet paper when Covid hit :smh:
 
Do you only use the first pad on your finger or are you hooking the trigger? May help. I can’t find enough ammo to fire the Hellcat yet but some regular 9mm rounds fell out the sky so hopefully soon. Mfs buying ammo like toilet paper when Covid hit :smh:
I only use the 1st pad of my finger & never close enough for the 1st crease to touch the trigger
 
I use a bore snakes for quick cleaning. After shooting at the range, I'll run a bore snake through it to get rid of the powder and copper right there. But, for thorough cleanings, I'll use a bore-guide (for rifles) a Dewey cleaning rod, and a Parker-Hale jag. I don't use brass brushes at all, I use nylon brushes.

Some solvents can be hard on your barrels, so I don't use anything too strong. If you clean your weapons on the regular, you won't have to use harsh solvents.

Got away from rifle bore cleaner a long time ago. If you shooting high rifle caliber and a lot ok but still, CLP is a cleaner and lubricant. Rifle bite cleaner will eat your barrels.
 
Thanks for the charts fam. Been looking to get back out to the range and let it flow. Kind of tight on ammo and don't feel like paying a stupid price to buy bulk at the range.
 
How bad are the Turkish shotguns?...not a gun guy but got some quality handguns and am looking for a shotgun to supplement home defense...not willing to spend big money on carbines but those are great...only thing I see in the stores here are TriStar, Rock Island and some other cheap Turkish joints...wont be going to the range every minute with these things...just going enough times so they don't end up scaring me when I gotta fire them...would yall have reasonable confidence that they won't fail you if something actually goes down?....should I say fuck it and just depend on the handguns I already got?
 
How bad are the Turkish shotguns?...not a gun guy but got some quality handguns and am looking for a shotgun to supplement home defense...not willing to spend big money on carbines but those are great...only thing I see in the stores here are TriStar, Rock Island and some other cheap Turkish joints...wont be going to the range every minute with these things...just going enough times so they don't end up scaring me when I gotta fire them...would yall have reasonable confidence that they won't fail you if something actually goes down?....should I say fuck it and just depend on the handguns I already got?

Carbines aren’t that expensive. This covid shit got mfs on panic mode. Which has jacked up prices. What you got again? I don’t remember
 
Carbines aren’t that expensive. This covid shit got mfs on panic mode. Which has jacked up prices. What you got again? I don’t remember
Turkish shotguns selling in the 300s....carbines not available and am on a list to get notified when they show up whenever that is...live in the DMV but not in the V so you already know its restrictive
Got Glock 21 and SW 357...have had em for years
 
Turkish shotguns selling in the 300s....carbines not available and am on a list to get notified when they show up whenever that is...live in the DMV but not in the V so you already know its restrictive
Got Glock 21 and SW 357...have had em for years

I think you’re good. I’d add only the shotgun if possible for close quarters. My thinking is if you coming to get it I want you to have it. Just get hollow points for the Glock at least. You know, to put a mf down like you supposed to. In the most violent way possible. I have long rang weapons but haven’t gotten a shotgun yet and I’m now debating if I need it. I have 9mm and .45 with two M-4 5.56 carbines. And two 7+ calibers. If you dumb enough to come at me I’d like to make it like the 4th of July for you son. Just because.
 
How bad are the Turkish shotguns?...not a gun guy but got some quality handguns and am looking for a shotgun to supplement home defense...not willing to spend big money on carbines but those are great...only thing I see in the stores here are TriStar, Rock Island and some other cheap Turkish joints...wont be going to the range every minute with these things...just going enough times so they don't end up scaring me when I gotta fire them...would yall have reasonable confidence that they won't fail you if something actually goes down?....should I say fuck it and just depend on the handguns I already got?

There's not much that can go wrong with a pump shotgun. They either work or they do not. With that said, I'd go the Rock Island M5 route over any of the others mentioned. Straight out of the box, inspect all of the moving parts, clean, lube, test with a few different ammo types. Note which ammo it cycles reliably , practice more with said ammo. Purchase a stockpile of said ammo (100+ rounds). Shotgun ammo is abundant currently in most places that I frequent, so obtaining a couple 100 rounds should be fairly easy.

I'm in the belief that a shotgun is an important part of one's HD arsenal. It's like the multi tool of the fire arms world.
 
There's not much that can go wrong with a pump shotgun. They either work or they do not. With that said, I'd go the Rock Island M5 route over any of the others mentioned. Straight out of the box, inspect all of the moving parts, clean, lube, test with a few different ammo types. Note which ammo it cycles reliably , practice more with said ammo. Purchase a stockpile of said ammo (100+ rounds). Shotgun ammo is abundant currently in most places that I frequent, so obtaining a couple 100 rounds should be fairly easy.

I'm in the belief that a shotgun is an important part of one's HD arsenal. It's like the multi tool of the fire arms world.
Yeah by time I came back the next day the Rock Island was gone but even without knowing much about shotguns, it felt better than the TriStar....fuck it, better to have something that's so-so instead of nothing at all...I'll check the store out this week and see what they got
 
I got one...what you need to know?

got a Mico Draco a while back and wanted to put a drum on it just for thefuck of it. bought a Pro Mag 50 round (i know pro mag is trash) and it wouldnt feed. then did my research on youtube and exchanged it for a KCI 100 round but it still wont feed
 
I haven't run a drum on my Draco...In fact, I only have a drum for AR and my Scorpion. Draco has performed flawlessly though
 
anybody have experience with Dracos?

I have one as well. The short of the long story on drums is, don't do it! I have a surplus Romanian drum. It functions flawlessly, but it is a chore to load and very impractical. If it was attached to a title II AK it would be worth the hassle, but on a semi not so much.

** Note, If you're a freak for pain, grab a Century Arms Romanian clone drum. They are known to function well in Draco's.
DRUM MAG
 
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Build yourself an AR pistol... :yes:
I already have a PSA lower with a sharkfin brace. I wanna use it for a 300 blackout build but just waiting for prices to normalize somewhat. I did have my eye on the Ruger PC Charger but I just watched 2 videos today where it randomly had feed malfunctions during 1st mag sessions.
 
I have one as well. The short of the long story on drums is, don't do it! I have a surplus Romanian drum. It functions flawlessly, but it is a chore to load and very impractical. If it was attached to a title II AK it would be worth the hassle, but on a semi not so much.

** Note, If you're a freak for pain, grab a Century Arms Romanian clone drum. They are known to function well in Draco's.
DRUM MAG
I know 2 guys with Dracos, and they said they wouldn't recommend it.
 
I already have a PSA lower with a sharkfin brace. I wanna use it for a 300 blackout build but just waiting for prices to normalize somewhat. I did have my eye on the Ruger PC Charger but I just watched 2 videos today where it randomly had feed malfunctions during 1st mag sessions.

The PC Charger is a hunk of shit, save your money. I shot mine once, and tossed that shit in the back of the safe. Now that I think of it, I need to take my red dot off of that bitch.

A 8" .300 Pistol would be an awesome "trunk gun". Are you planning on leaving it in the vehicle fulltime? I don't have the testicular fortitude for that cowboy shit. I'm way too paranoid, that someone will bag my shit and commit a crime with it.
 
The PC Charger is a hunk of shit, save your money. I shot mine once, and tossed that shit in the back of the safe. Now that I think of it, I need to take my red dot off of that bitch.
Why don't you sell it then if it's so bad. Rather than just have it sit and collect dust trade it in for something else that you could use and enjoy.

A 8" .300 Pistol would be an awesome "trunk gun". Are you planning on leaving it in the vehicle fulltime? I don't have the testicular fortitude for that cowboy shit. I'm way too paranoid, that someone will bag my shit and commit a crime with it.
I have a TLX and for the most part stays in my garage at night. Since it doesn't come with a spare, the area where a spare would usually be placed is instead occupied by a split bin. One half of the bin contains a tire refill kit and the other is open as a storage bin. I wanna use that area for the trunk gun. I gotta measure it out and plan to put foam inserts inside so whatever I put in there won't move around.
 
Picked up my Sig P365 today and also got a Canik TP9SC Elite. The Canik was only $370. No way I was passing that up. It'll be my bedside firearm as well as my OWB carry piece that I can toss a jacket or sweater over during the fall & winter
 
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Why don't you sell it then if it's so bad. Rather than just have it sit and collect dust trade it in for something else that you could use and enjoy.

I never sell or trade guns. Once upon a time, the ATF, and local sheriff paid me a visit at the crib. Apparently, the Taurus 1911 that I traded a dude for a G21, was found in a stolen car that some kids crashed into a house. Turns out the gun wasn't used in a crime, but It was an eye opening experience to say the least. Nope... my peace of mind is worth more than what I may recoup on already spent money. I have met a few others, that have had similar experiences
 
I never sell or trade guns. Once upon a time, the ATF, and local sheriff paid me a visit at the crib. Apparently, the Taurus 1911 that I traded a dude for a G21, was found in a stolen car that some kids crashed into a house. Turns out the gun wasn't used in a crime, but It was an eye opening experience to say the least. Nope... my peace of mind is worth more than what I may recoup on already spent money. I have met a few others, that have had similar experiences
Wow but shouldn't consignment at a FFL relieve you of that responsibility?
 
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