AOC: "Voting for Biden is not about whether or not you agree with him... November is about survival."

A lot of those 200,000 COVID dead are black. They didn't survive the current term. What does it mean to survive? You're worse off than you were 4 years ago do you want to be worse off than you are now. Maybe that's how they should put it.
We're the same group that survived slavery, jim crow and every other social roadblock put in front of us. We've had all of that plus the shit the rest of the country has been hit with. There will always be black casualties. And the majority of us will always pull through. History has shown that. If we keep our heads and use common sense, we'll get through this as well. I look at this as an economic wake up call. We need to shore up our safety nets and stop fuckin around when it comes to economics.
 
You don't see any tangible difference between a Biden administration and Trump? Somebody needs to give you a tangible kick in the ass-- words don't work with everybody.

You're going to get one or the other, refusing to choose and saying "eat a dick" doesn't help you or black people generally.
you aren't going to get shit either way. there is no tangible difference. neither of them will have any impact on me and if they actually did a drastic effect, I would just leave this piece of shit country. I'm not tied to dirt. Dems needs to learn to give us something instead of talking to us three months before an election and interviewing Lil Yachty.
 
you aren't going to get shit either way. there is no tangible difference. neither of them will have any impact on me and if they actually did a drastic effect, I would just leave this piece of shit country. I'm not tied to dirt. Dems needs to learn to give us something instead of talking to us three months before an election and interviewing Lil Yachty.
This is the wrong attitude. You want someone to just give you something?
So If the dems "give" you a pair of Jordans would you be satisfied?
No.. we have to learn how to lobby our representatives and how to leverage government resources in our favor. Representatives work for us and they work best for us when we tell them what we want/need and keep on them about what we want/need. You can't have a message that is all over the place. We have to be specific about what it is that we want and we have to continuously be involved and not sit back waiting for anyone to just give us something.
 
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Nobody is going to survive him stacking the Supreme Court or more bullshitting about Covid. I don't even want to imagine how unhinged he would be with no election looming over his head.
then they should appeal to white women as more than half voted for him.
 
How can he when the media, celebrities, and "good" white liberals like @Dannyblueyes use every opportunity to tell him he's a victim who's life is in control of evil white people?
minorities are a victim of white supremacy. only one "race" has been to every continent to barbarically rape, kill, enslave, steal land and culture, and divide people. That is their trademark as genetic mutations that can't run away from the fact they were born and breed by a black woman and black man. Most can't sleep at night thinking of a black buck digging in the guts of their lily white bitch who will no longer need needle dick and paper money. The board they plan on is not divided fairly. Some want the rules to be fair, some play their game and beat them at their own shit. But to deny it doesn't exist is idiotic.
 
you aren't going to get shit either way. there is no tangible difference. neither of them will have any impact on me and if they actually did a drastic effect, I would just leave this piece of shit country. I'm not tied to dirt. Dems needs to learn to give us something instead of talking to us three months before an election and interviewing Lil Yachty.

I don't know your personal situation. I know that the party in power has a huge impact on Black America as a whole. So are we talking about you personally or Black America? I don't care to debate the former.

Also realize that I despise Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. You're not talking to an apologist like the pretend doctor. AOC says she doesn't even consider Biden someone she should be in the same party with. I agree and she agrees that the Dems need to do much, much more. But to claim there is no difference between them and the Republicans is foolish and childish.
 
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Says who? The polls and media that told us he had no chance of winning in 2016?
And they were right!

If 2016 had been a fair and honest election Donald Trump would have lost. The only reason he got in by the skin of his ass was because of foreign interference.
Well now its already looking like he going to lose Pennsylvania and a couple other "battleground" states...
 
Wrong , if he gets 4 more years he will be dictator for life , he has already shown you the beginnings of a personal secret police force in Portland, if he wins again the liberal and moderate whites will tow the party line for their own survival and leave us locked in the cities which will be big concentration camps , don’t be stupid , get out and vote for your life
Yeah but we survived the middle passage, enslavement, Jim Crow, etc....
So will survive dictatorship. Geez...these mutherfuckers.. :smh: :smh:
 
During the middle passage and Jim Crow they needed our labor so had some economic interest in our survival, now they will exterminate us
Just to be clear I was being sarcastic about these dudes around here (and out in the real world) being ok with just surviving.
 
We're the same group that survived slavery, jim crow and every other social roadblock put in front of us. We've had all of that plus the shit the rest of the country has been hit with. There will always be black casualties. And the majority of us will always pull through. History has shown that. If we keep our heads and use common sense, we'll get through this as well. I look at this as an economic wake up call. We need to shore up our safety nets and stop fuckin around when it comes to economics.

the best way to get through this is to vote. The best way to get through this is to participate in the process of governing. One thing for sure is nobody ever hit a homerun sitting in the dugout or in the stands. Fuck this bystander bullshit. We have survived a lot of shit but at some point, you have got to do better. Doing better isn't letting a bunch of shit run roughshod over you.
 
the best way to get through this is to vote. The best way to get through this is to participate in the process of governing. One thing for sure is nobody ever hit a homerun sitting in the dugout or in the stands. Fuck this bystander bullshit. We have survived a lot of shit but at some point, you have got to do better. Doing better isn't letting a bunch of shit run roughshod over you.
Isn't crazy how these woke mutherfuckers say the democrats have done nothing for black people and have kept black folk stagnant. Yet those same woke mutherfuckers are ok we black people just surviving?

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Isn't crazy how these woke mutherfuckers say the democrats have done nothing for black people and have kept black folk stagnant. Yet those same woke mutherfuckers are ok we black people just surviving?

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I can't speak for anyone else but "just surviving" for me means a 6 figure salary, owning 2 houses free and clear and working a dream job (from home) at the most powerful company on the planet. All of that isn't happenstance. A long time ago I realized that the gubment isn't going to change the condition of my people so I should stop jerking off on election day and focus my energy on "surviving" regardless of the racist fucker in the oval office. I think if more black people started doing that they would be less afraid of the big bad government and how it can ruin them and start living. I'm well beyond "woke". I'm enlightened.
 
I can't speak for anyone else but "just surviving" for me means a 6 figure salary, owning 2 houses free and clear and working a dream job (from home) at the most powerful company on the planet. All of that isn't happenstance. A long time ago I realized that the gubment isn't going to change the condition of my people so I should stop jerking off on election day and focus my energy on "surviving" regardless of the racist fucker in the oval office. I think if more black people started doing that they would be less afraid of the big bad government and how it can ruin them and start living. I'm well beyond "woke". I'm enlightened.
Bruh I am not surviving, I am living, and have been living regardless of who's president, congress person, govenor, legislators, county executive, sheriff, mayor, council people, dog catcher, etc....
Though I look out for myself, my family...I live with by this philosophy:


"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

Martin Niemöller
 
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I don't know your personal situation. I know that the party in power has a huge impact on Black America as a whole. So are we talking about you personally or Black America? I don't care to debate the former.

Also realize that I despise Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. You're not talking to an apologist like the pretend doctor. AOC says she doesn't even consider Biden someone she should be in the same party with. I agree and she agrees that the Dems need to do much, much more. But to claim there is no difference between them and the Republicans is foolish and childish.
That's your opinion. Black America has always been on attack. It's just advertised more. All of what's going on was happening during Obama's term too. And every Democratic president before him.

The party you favor has been a thorn to the black community as well. Choosing your option of how you want to get fucked over is not a choice for me. Dems need to step up and they had plenty of time to do so. Now, last minute they make promises, insult us by pandering, and kick the can down the road....but later when we have power, we will change things. same shit, 60 years later. Now that they are desperate as well, they will finally realize that they should actually take the effort to provide us something. Only way they learn.

If they lose, it's on them for not giving us what we want, not for us to blindly vote for someone with no benefit.
 
Wrong , if he gets 4 more years he will be dictator for life , he has already shown you the beginnings of a personal secret police force in Portland, if he wins again the liberal and moderate whites will tow the party line for their own survival and leave us locked in the cities which will be big concentration camps , don’t be stupid , get out and vote for your life
Come on bruh...The only thing missing in that doom and gloom scenario you're painting is the plan to re-enslave black people. You sound as ridiculous as the people on the right that said if Obama was ever elected he would take all their guns away and make America a socialist cesspool. At some point you gotta stop with the talking points and think like a man with some common sense. People like me win regardless of what happens. If you're right and I'm wrong that means we're facing a revolution. Are you afraid of a revolution? Hell, I'm not! Lets burn this muthfucka down and get some justice!!! I'm good with that. If that fool gets re-elected and does 4 more years of the same shit. I'm good with that too. I'll be just fine. Let's say Biden wins. Woop tee damn doo! He gets in there and does or doesn't do shit for black people. I'm good with that too. I'll be just fine. So you and people like you can feel free to get your "chicken little" on all day. Telling me I'm wrong won't change shit. I'll take change or more of the same. Positive or negative, I'm ready to face it all.
 
Bruh I am not surviving, I am living, and have been living regardless of who's president, congress person, govenor, legislators, county executive, sheriff, mayor, council people, dog catcher, etc....
Though I look out for myself, my family...I live with by this philosophy:


First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Hell, you sound just like me! We should be on the same side of this issue! :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Hell, you sound just like me! We should be on the same side of this issue! :confused: :confused: :confused:
The difference is that you think in the grand scheme of things (outside of yourself and your personal surroundings) it doesn't matter who is elected to those positions. I on the other hand despite my personal situation, I believe it does matter who those folks are. While I am not a Democrat, I believe they are far more malleable, than the Republicans.
Black folk as a whole are not in a position (financial, health wise, etc..) to believe those folks don't matter. Two things republicans talk about are detrimental to black folk at this time and that's stateright and small government.
 
The difference is that you think in the grand scheme of things (outside of yourself and your personal surroundings) it doesn't matter who is elected to those positions. I on the other hand despite my personal situation, I believe it does matter who those folks are. While I am not a Democrat, I believe they are far more malleable, than the Republicans.
Black folk as a whole are not in a position (financial, health wise, etc..) to believe those folks don't matter. Two things republicans talk about are detrimental to black folk at this time and that's stateright and small government.
Damn, you're absolutely right! I am a strategic thinker. You sound like a tactical thinker. We need both among our ranks. You made an interesting point about the Dems being more malleable. That's correct. In my mind that means that if black people withdraw their support they can be more easily controlled during the next election cycle because they finally learned that we're not fuckin around! I'd like to bend their will instead of putting them in office and "hoping" they do the right thing because of some type of humanity on their part. I just don't trust an organization that has dismissed black pain for my entire life. trump and the republicans don't even factor into this. The shit they're doing now isn't the worst we've dealt with.
 
How can he when the media, celebrities, and "good" white liberals like @Dannyblueyes use every opportunity to tell him he's a victim who's life is in control of evil white people?

First of all I'm not a liberal and I'm certainly not good. I'm just a white asshole who doesn't want to die of a gunshot wound, doesn't want to go broke from a hospital bill, and doesn't want to go to jail for smoking a joint.

yes, black people are victims and to a large extent their lives are controlled by evil white men. you can deny it, embrace it, fight it, stand by passively, or even contribute to it, but I can't honestly see how you or anyone else can deny it.

With that said, it's not up to me to tell you or anyone else how to react. All I can do is give my opinion and share my relevant life experience. The rest is up to the reader
 
Damn, you're absolutely right! I am a strategic thinker. You sound like a tactical thinker. We need both among our ranks. You made an interesting point about the Dems being more malleable. That's correct. In my mind that means that if black people withdraw their support they can be more easily controlled during the next election cycle because they finally learned that we're not fuckin around! I'd like to bend their will instead of putting them in office and "hoping" they do the right thing because of some type of humanity on their part. I just don't trust an organization that has dismissed black pain for my entire life. trump and the republicans don't even factor into this. The shit they're doing now isn't the worst we've dealt with.
It is often said that black folk are the democratic party. So instead of withdrawing, we should instead aggressively engage the party with what we want, and what we need.
See we want the party to be our daddy/mommy shaping us. Instead of us being the parent shaping the child.
The Tea Party reshaped the republican party, and the MAGA crowd reshaped the republican party once again. That's how we should be moving.
 
Why are so many people talking about "survival" and this election? If these people are here to send the message then obviously they survived 4 years of that clown. What are they going to do different in the next 4 that will threaten their survival? Black people have survived worse and we'll survive this as well.
happens every election

fear is a weapon
 
It is often said that black folk are the democratic party. So instead of withdrawing, we should instead aggressively engage the party with what we want, and what we need.
See we want the party to be our daddy/mommy shaping us. Instead of us being the parent shaping the child.
The Tea Party reshaped the republican party, and the MAGA crowd reshaped the republican party once again. That's how we should be moving.
Agreed but they need to learn a lesson first.
 
First of all I'm not a liberal and I'm certainly not good. I'm just a white asshole who doesn't want to die of a gunshot wound, doesn't want to go broke from a hospital bill, and doesn't want to go to jail for smoking a joint.

yes, black people are victims and to a large extent their lives are controlled by evil white men. you can deny it, embrace it, fight it, stand by passively, or even contribute to it, but I can't honestly see how you or anyone else can deny it.

With that said, it's not up to me to tell you or anyone else how to react. All I can do is give my opinion and share my relevant life experience. The rest is up to the reader

^^^

Dannyblueyes has been one of the realest people on this board for a long time now.
 
And you wrong,so wrong , so naive, you must be young early 20’s havent read about hitlers rise to power and the various genocides , the gov can take everything and label you a noncitizen

I tell you what. When that happens you can come get all the gold and silver coins I have boxed up in my apartment. Once I get sent to the concentration camp, I won't need them anymore. I hope you're still active on the board in 2024 because you gotta know I'm gonna clown all of you Chicken Littles!:D:D:D
 
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