I'm no lawyer but the term innocent until proven guilty applies to cops too, right?
Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal: Don't 'lump' killing of Breonna Taylor with George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery
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I'm no lawyer but the term innocent until proven guilty applies to cops too, right?
So I guess there's no point of having witnesses anymore huh.
If 11 people state that they didn’t hear anything and one person does, and strangely the DA sides with the one person who heard something is kinda strange.
There are no winners here. The cops were doing their job according to the warrant. If they truly thought they were raiding a trap house and someone shoots at them they're not gonna wait and ask questions.
Its a tragic situation all around.
You’re right, after thinking about it I don’t know what can be done?
The family was awarded money in a civil suit. But the cops were doing their job and if shot at, then they’re going to shoot back. That’s understandable
One officer was reckless with the shooting and he’s no longer working for them.
Unfortunately a life was lost and saying “The boyfriend shouldn’t have shot first” isn’t sitting well with people because that literally could’ve been any of us.
Maybe the witnesses weren't credible? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer and I've never tried a case.
I do know that in 2020 the black AG would have instantly shot to political superstardom if he could have prosecuted and convicted those cops for murder. There has to be more to it than we know.
Unless that one “Credible” witness was Jesus, I’m not sure how eleven other witnesses accounts were discounted.
See some BLM people are saying "defund as to abolish".
"Defund the police" is dumb. We need the police in communities. Police need to be retrained and many/some need to be fired and never rehired.
"Defund the police" is dumb. We need the police in communities. Police need to be retrained and many/some need to be fired and never rehired.
Are you really going there with a nigro that was on trump’s shortlist for supreme court justice?
Someone definitely sent you.
Wrong. Police can’t just pop into someone’s house, shoot it up and say oops. That’s not how civilized societies work.
In a civilized society, they all get charged with a crime, a homicide. Next time, the cops will make 100% sure that they’re at the right house.
Under your scenario, cops have blanket immunity for killing anyone. There is also a huge incentive for cops to lie and come up with a “wrong house” story whenever they kill someone.
Taking someone’s life by the government is the worst thing that a government can do. There needs to be layers upon layers of safeguards to make sure that innocent people like Breonna aren’t murdered.
The ONLY way to ensure that government takes this seriously is by imposing harsh penalties on the actors for any screwups.
One more thing, if US soldiers in Afghanistan made the same “mistake” that you are so willing to forgive the police for they would all be court martialed, lose their jobs and face criminal charges under military law.
But if they do it on US soil to US citizens they should be excused. What sense does that make.
Some of you have White supremacy so ingrained in your thinking that you have no idea how to think critically anymore.
But if they do it on US soil to US citizens they should be excused. What sense does that make.
Some of you have White supremacy so ingrained in your thinking that you have no idea how to think critically anymore.
They were at the right house and had a warrant to be there. Those are the facts.
We all need to make sure that we have the facts in the case before we can proceed with arguing about it.
Your sentiments are correct though.
The facts are that they had a warrant to go to that residence to look for the suspect but the suspect was already in custody. Therefore the warrant on that home became null and void.
They didn't just "pop into someone's house". They had a warrant. Where in your civilized society does her d-boy ex-boyfriend play a role? Or do only the cops have to be perfect?
My scenario is the current laws, which don't give cops blanket immunity to break the law. If the cops broke the law they need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. In this case, they didn't.
Any issues with the investigation that lead to the raid are legitimate, but the cops that executed the raid were found to have been doing their job.
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You are hitting all CACs talking points.just following orders does not absolve them. It didn’t work at Nuremberg and should work here.
seems like Gayle King said
Hold my beer...
Damn Gayle King just want all the smoke... she called out Pelosi for calling Trump supporters "henchmen"
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NO KNOCK NO ANNOUNCEMENT BLACK FOLKS HAVE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO DEFEND PROPERTY IN KENTUCKY.
Again, explain to me how Charles and Shaq are uneducated on the case from what they said.
STOP WITH THE COPS ANNOUNCED THEMSELVES BULLSHIT. WHY THE FUCK WOULD GO THROUGH THE HASSLE OF GETTING A NO KNOCK WARRANT IF YOU ARE GOING TO KNOCK?
If they announced themselves. Then why the fuck would the woman be calling the cops for people with guns shooting? Did they fucking whisper police..we're coming in? These cacs and sambos are always going to roll with the police.
The bottomline is that it was a complete fuckup and someone/s needs to pay for that fuck up.
Just because a CAC said it doesn't make it untrue.
There was a “Search” warrant to look for drugs, drug paraphernalia and evidence of drug dealing.
They weren’t searching for a “Suspect”. To my knowledge the cops performed searches on four or five other locations that night/morning looking for drugs or evidence of drug dealing.
It wasn’t an “Arrest” warrant, it was a “Search” warrant.
I am not on the side of the cops, I just want us all to have the correct facts of the case before we can argue it. At least the most facts as possible because cops are liars.
I guess you know facts prosecutors in Kentucky didn't.
Yeah prosecutors really want to lock up cops.
If this scenario happened to you, what would you want done?
And before you start, I don’t want to hear how you wouldn’t be wrapped up in a drug situation. The scenario isn’t about that.
The scenario is simple. The cops have a warrant, knock on your door. You don’t hear them, they bust in and you shoot at intruders.
Your wife is killed and no evidence of any crime that any of you have committed is found.
What would you want to happen, what would be fair to you?
answer the question,
Why specifically ask for a no knock warrant (which is a fact they did have one), only to knock loudly and announce their presence (which your gullible ass want to believe)?
Of course I'd want someone to be held responsible for the death of my wife.
Once again wrong. You are only looking at it from the perspective of the government. That’s not how civilized societies work - the people are to be protected from the government not the other way around.
The constitution mandates that we look at it from Breonna Taylor (the person that is protected) perspective.
From her perspective, the government burst into her house, shot it up, and killed her. Then they told her that it was a “mistake” and that no one should be held accountable. You accept this and argue that it’s the right outcome by talking about warrants, and d-boys etc.
Like I said above, this is not an acceptable outcome in a civilized society.
Then there you have it.
My issue is this. If you’re not committing a crime and in your house and the cops bust in. You don’t know that they’re cops so you shoot to protect your family from an intruder.
They kill you or your family members in the exchange because the cops are going to shoot back.
How can they place the blame on you for protecting your family and they walk away with no charges?
Yes they were doing their job, but now you or your family member is dead and all they can say is that they were just doing their job?
No, someone has to be help responsible for the death of you or your family member.
Snoop should have never apologized to this cunt. Shes's always been on some bullshit. FUCK her
They will, but in civil court instead of criminal. Its wack, but this is how this plays out time and time again.
Unfortunately that sounds about right because there was no intent to murder.
Can’t even do manslaughter because they were doing their job.
It’s just a fucked up situation.
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