Why Grocery Stores Are Avoiding Black Neighborhoods
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They don't need 25 minutes.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Armed security is needed inside AND outside the store. In the black areas in NE Ohio, all the grocery stores have pigs from that city at least inside. Some have pigs inside and other security posted outside. That shit costs.
Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Armed security is needed inside AND outside the store. In the black areas in NE Ohio, all the grocery stores have pigs from that city at least inside. Some have pigs inside and other security posted outside. That shit costs.Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
We have to voteThey don't need 25 minutes.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
That sounds like a crime filled area that happens to be black.. a Hispanic, a cac, and other areas could also have similar problems if its full of crime... black area dosent mean automatically it’s a crime filled place... there are some black areas that are not filled with those problems or areas that have minimum problems that are avoided also just cause it’s black... it’s funny how they like to claim black people spend so much money yet will avoid building certain things around the so called biggest consumers.. that doesn’t make sense unless 1 statement is a lieThey don't need 25 minutes.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
Well, when you find a cac area like that in Ohio, be sure to let us know. Plenty of poor cacs, so they should be wilding the fuck out somewhere.
If you think cacs are avoiding money simply because people are black, you don't know the U.S. very well in the modern age. They are avoiding areas because of cost of doing business isn't worth it. Period. They'd suck all that shit out of the black community if it wasn't just less of a headache to set up the store somewhere else.
I just split the difference between NY and Ohio. I looked at the gun death in Pennsylvania. Black rate is damn near 30 per 100,000 while the white rate is damn near 10. Problem is most the white deaths are suicides. I could do other states and probably get the same shit. So where are the predominate black areas with poor to working class people where there aren't problems?
This shit isn't about black middle-class and upper-class people not being able to get fresh shit from Whole Foods. Best believe if a neighborhood don't have grocery stores some of the gas stations have bullet-resistant glass.
Let's look at dollar stores. Corporate owners work the robberies into their business model and don't even give a fuck about security. Cats are hitting those stores up left and fucking right. Whole foods ain't about to go through that shit man.
In fact, cities across the fucking country asking Dollar stores to take security more seriously because they attract robbers. So what would happen if these were grocery stores? 
Keeping it real...They don't need 25 minutes.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
There’s supermarkets all over nyc..in all different type of areas.. and some are going through none of those problems even in areas filled with projects.. so like you were saying maybe it’s just a geographical thing.. not all black people are hood and everybody from the hood ain’t necessarily bad people.. in fact some hoods have actually changed for the better and not even gentrification is the reasonWell, when you find a cac area like that in Ohio, be sure to let us know. Plenty of poor cacs, so they should be wilding the fuck out somewhere.
If you think cacs are avoiding money simply because people are black, you don't know the U.S. very well in the modern age. They are avoiding areas because of cost of doing business isn't worth it. Period. They'd suck all that shit out of the black community if it wasn't just less of a headache to set up the store somewhere else.
I just split the difference between NY and Ohio. I looked at the gun death in Pennsylvania. Black rate is damn near 30 per 100,000 while the white rate is damn near 10. Problem is most the white deaths are suicides. I could do other states and probably get the same shit. So where are the predominate black areas with poor to working class people where there aren't problems?
This shit isn't about black middle-class and upper-class people not being able to get fresh shit from Whole Foods. Best believe if a neighborhood don't have grocery stores some of the gas stations have bullet-resistant glass.
Let's look at dollar stores. Corporate owners work the robberies into their business model and don't even give a fuck about security. Cats are hitting those stores up left and fucking right. Whole foods ain't about to go through that shit man.
This shit is pure economics and not some grand conspiracy. A traditional grocery store is high volume / low margin. If external factors start influencing your already low margin, you will not be in business long. Think about the types of places that "thrive" in the same neighborhoods that are considered food deserts. All of them are high margin/low footprint businesses. Cacs are the most exploitative creatures on the planet. If they could make money off Black people by selling groceries they would...
The few times I’ve been to hood grocery stores, I’ve received angry looks because my cart was full
I don't understand this.
Niggas envious that I could afford to buy a lot of food
I don't know what type of hood grocery store you go to,,,, but Families first and other welfare keeps their carts full too.... and they just opened a nice new big ShopRite in Newark , N.J..... with all the amenities of one in a cac area... including a sushi bar....across from where the Prince Street projects used to be..... still hood as hell though
That's weird to me.
I go to plenty of hood grocery stores and one thing them baskets don't be is empty.
They may not have organic free range salmon ass in em, but i ain't never seen slim baskets in the hood in my life.
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So you're saying that there are low crime, primarily black neighborhoods that are food deserts?
Please point out the neighborhood like this.
East Flatbush has a bunch of grocery stores. Not black owned, but still. There's an Ideal on E.35th, across from Holy Cross Cemetery. An Associated on Church Avenue near Rogers, 2 more supermarkets, a Bravo and another Ideal on Church going towards Utica. Others in the vicinity too. Mostly Arab or Latino owned.
Yeah, I know most the hood is good people. That's why I said a few ruin it for everyone and a simple change in policing could help fix this shit.
I'm just willing to bet in every area that you'll find food deserts you're damn near guaranteed to find gas stations/small stores with bullet resistant glass and turntables to put the products inside. And that's the reason why those areas are food deserts.
And ain't NYC safe as shit now? Nothing like the 90s. Cleveland and other areas across the country still wild as fuck.
So you want on duty cops to provide security for stores at no cost? Well that's going to cost a lot of money for the tax payers because you're going to need a lot more cops. If you want off duty cops to patrol the stores at no cost to the business, then that also going to cost a lot of money to taxpayers. Where's the money going to come from in these cash strapped cities and struggling suburbs?They don't need 25 minutes.
Hate to say it, might be different in other folks neck of the woods, but around here it's crime(even in the fucking suburbs).
Cashiers been assaulted. Robberies of the store if no security is present. Robbery of customers in parking lots. Not to mention the amount of product walking out the store.
Small percentage of folks fucking it up for everyone.
And trust, I remember when some of these same stores up here didn't need security. Now even Zagaras up in the heights got armed pigs. Same with the bullet-resistance glass in the smaller stores/gas stations. Businesses try to stay, but it gets hard. So if it's hard for businesses to stay, who is really looking to open up?
This is what the pigs should be for and provided by the city with no costs to the stores. Pigs out writing tickets and harassing folks for a city's nickle and diming schemes. Pigs should be provided to post up in store parking lots. Secure safe shopping for residents. Policing is so broken that residents can't even get stores.
Plus why should businesses not have to pay for such services?
What are the pigs doing now? Filling up traffic courts with black folks from the same communities who can't afford the bullshit tickets. They overpolicing.
Since it's proven police presence reduces crime, why not have some at the major grocery? Just one fucking cop is enough to deter crime. The folks already paying for shit policing. Why not get something for the money besides tickets for rolling stops and wannabe tough guys harassing black people driving to work?
So once again you want on duty cops to protect the stores at no cost. Meanwhile there's shit going on in the community. Do you know how many calls cops get in a day? Do you really think on duty cops have the time to be sitting at stores and on the city's dime to boot? We're not talking about sleepy suburban/rural towns.
I'm sorry bruh but that shit doesn't make sense. Especially since the small individuals who commit most of the crime will know that the cops are at the stores and therefore they have the green light throughout the city. Then when those guys are called from the store, then the criminals will have the green light at the stores.
Man. Cleveland had a pig who only sat on Lee rd and south Miles to bust people for traffic offenses. That's it. Bitch ass move around to harass citizens. You mean to tell me they can't post him at a store?
These the same fucking cities that have officers running around writing fucking parking tickets.
I know another suburb up here with a heavy black population where the pig post by the freeway then move down the street. All to write fucking tickets. They just fucking rotate.
Man, you giving these pigs waaaaaay too much credit. How you think they keep those traffic courts jammed?
So yeah, from my observation, these crooked fucks can spare a pig or 2.
It's funny man. Up here the Heights does just what the fuck I am advocating for 2 strips. Lee rd and coventry. They post the cops up. Period. Pigs stay posted. They only started to do that after cats started wilding out. Cut that shit out with the quickness, so yeah man, the shit works. Resources are there man. Pigs just misused right now as revenue collectors in poor areas.
You're giving examples of single cops doing this and that. There are but so many cops on duty (especially at night) and besides handing out tickets and harassing folk. They are also responding to all kinds of calls (accidents, domestic disputes, murder, robber, trespassing, fights, etc....) from citizens. It's just not realistic. That's why they have off duty cops backed up by on duty cops to patrol stores.Man. Cleveland had a pig who only sat on Lee rd and south Miles to bust people for traffic offenses. That's it. Bitch ass move around to harass citizens. You mean to tell me they can't post him at a store?
These the same fucking cities that have officers running around writing fucking parking tickets.
I know another suburb up here with a heavy black population where the pig post by the freeway then move down the street. All to write fucking tickets. They just fucking rotate.
Man, you giving these pigs waaaaaay too much credit. How you think they keep those traffic courts jammed?
So yeah, from my observation, these crooked fucks can spare a pig or 2.
It's funny man. Up here the Heights does just what the fuck I am advocating for 2 strips. Lee rd and coventry. They post the cops up. Period. Pigs stay posted. They only started to do that after cats started wilding out. Cut that shit out with the quickness, so yeah man, the shit works. Resources are there man. Pigs just misused right now as revenue collectors in poor areas.
They dooo too, white folks the only ones that don't be giving that envious look are Puerto Ricans them fuckers have more carts filled up than me and most of us inline put together and the killer is when they use multiple foodstamp cards to pay for all that shit....they be like yeah bitch get ya porkchops,bag of chicken wings out the way.
Anyways they want to cater towards a certain group of people who are willing to pay a little more,it's in the same vain as motherfuckers claiming to shop at Target and not ghetto cheap Walmart.Black folks don't want that high end shit,they want certain items at a certain price or it will sit on the shelves til forever;Up here where I'm at it's Wegmans down south it's Publix and if you like going in there tasting samples of some shit you're never going to buy or you want to over pay for basic items go right ahead.
They don't respect the black dollar cause I go to the suburbs and see they same ghetto shit,fights,verbal battles,bitches in pajamas,theives of all races,bad ass kids,fat people in carts and scammers and foodstampers.
I dont even need to watch this. I know Trader Joes and Whole Foods avoid niggas like the plague. Aldis will go anywhere. Walmart too.
Well, since I did provide examples of it being done right now, it just goes to show that it does work, correct? So obviously it's realistic if it's happening now. I've also shown known examples of cops being wasted for revenue collection. Those pigs could be repurposed.
I'm telling you these fools could find ONE cop to post in a store that serves a nice-sized area. All it takes is one. They just choose not to do it. We in a world where are inner-cities have speed traps and folks tricked into think the police can't be redistributed.
You need you stop posting for shock value.
In the stores everyone's cart is full.
Cash, credit or food stamps everyone with a cart got it.
In the stores everyone's cart is full.
Cash, credit or food stamps everyone with a cart got it.
Once again you're talking about one cop in this town and one cop in that town. What you want is for all the cops (not just the single cop sitting at a speed trap) in every town to post up at these stores at no cost vs stores paying for off duty cops to patrol their stores/property. Once again how is that possible with cops having to respond to multipe calls?Well, since I did provide examples of it being done right now, it just goes to show that it does work, correct? So obviously it's realistic if it's happening now. I've also shown known examples of cops being wasted for revenue collection. Those pigs could be repurposed.
I'm telling you these fools could find ONE cop to post in a store that serves a nice-sized area. All it takes is one. They just choose not to do it. We in a world where are inner-cities have speed traps and folks tricked into think the police can't be redistributed.
We're not going to agree on this. Plus the shit aint going to happen anyway.
The Walmart in Tuskegee years ago was one of the first to close without relocating. They ran out with the store day and night.
They crime in Fairfield, Al had Walmart closing damn near at dusk dark.
They crime in Fairfield, Al had Walmart closing damn near at dusk dark.
I had an idea for opening grocery stores or corner stores in the black community. Part of the plan to improve business was to give a percentage of profits do people who live within a 1000 house radius of the store
Even if it's 50 bucks a year, who does that? That would get more people to come to my store
Also, the plan was to take away that benefit for anyone who was found stealing from the store. So if a kid steals from the store, his household would lose that annual check for 2 years. For robberies they would lose it for 5 years.
I believed that would help the neighborhood police itself, because you aren't stealing from the owner, you're stealing from all of US.
What do you think, you think something like that would work? If so, hit me up. I would love to pull together with something like this because plan has much more to it
Even if it's 50 bucks a year, who does that? That would get more people to come to my store
Also, the plan was to take away that benefit for anyone who was found stealing from the store. So if a kid steals from the store, his household would lose that annual check for 2 years. For robberies they would lose it for 5 years.
I believed that would help the neighborhood police itself, because you aren't stealing from the owner, you're stealing from all of US.
What do you think, you think something like that would work? If so, hit me up. I would love to pull together with something like this because plan has much more to it
It’s all about economics.
Thats what they say but there are some black areas of Atlanta with houses that have the same median income as white areas and they have ghetto ass grocery stores and chicken wing places everywhere. Yet the white areas have whole foods, Starbucks and such
Get the fuck out of here. The biggest carts I ever see are people with Quest cards
On the first mad carts be full as shit.. ebt central.. lots of females..mothers/grandmothers carts full as shit for food for the month.. if you go to an Hispanic neighborhood forget about it.. in fact I learned about wholesale stores like bj,s from Latin friends.. they would have shopping carts full of shit.. cabinets use to pack in their houses no matter the income levels.. so once again must be a geographic thing cause carts be filled in hood markets and from individuals who funds are low but got that ebt
He's the new Acur. Always bragging about only shopping at big box stores, desperate to convince us he's someone special.
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