The Children Left Behind by Remote Learning
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Bruh, it’s wild out here. I tried to do a remote deposition over zoom....ol girl does not have a computer in the house and no wifi....tried to do a whole zoom on her phone with just cellular service....had to call it off. This digital divide is a real thing.
i work with clients on medicaid and we were attempting to do work over zoom.....shyt is damn near impossible
Absolutely!!
It's not happening. I had to check myself because I just assumed that everyone had the fastest internet connection possible (I'm a pervert that used to have to actually download porn, I'm built different) , but no.
I’ve had students that’s tried to type entire papers on their phone. No formatting.
I’m getting a lot of that and I am making sure I’m patient with them. Shit can’t be helped
I know some of these younger chicks don't have computers, but they will have expensive ass phones. Won't even be bothered to buy a chromebook for $170. It seems as if some of these younger people look at laptops like older people look at typewriters. I felt like grandpa when I asked a young chick why she didn't have a laptop. Learned to stop asking that shit.
As for this specific topic of education, there are distance learning schools that will send computers(free of charge) to their students AND places that help with Internet. Resources like that have been in place for years, but people can't be bothered to even look for them. Always have to show parents how to parent.
I know this because as early as early 2010s I helped people get resources. Simple fucking phone call or taking their ass to the library to signup. Parents have to be fucking proactive man. It's a fucking shame to have to hold hands during the age of google.There seems to be a push against distance learning in general coming from all angles. Reminds me of 20 years ago when getting a degree online was a joke now every legit institution has it.
I know some of these younger chicks don't have computers, but they will have expensive ass phones. Won't even be bothered to buy a chromebook for $170. It seems as if some of these younger people look at laptops like older people look at typewriters. I felt like grandpa when I asked a young chick why she didn't have a laptop. Learned to stop asking that shit.
As for this specific topic of education, there are distance learning schools that will send computers(free of charge) to their students AND places that help with Internet. Resources like that have been in place for years, but people can't be bothered to even look for them. Always have to show parents how to parent.
There seems to be a push against distance learning in general coming from all angles. Reminds me of 20 years ago when getting a degree online was a joke now every legit institution has it.
The digital divide is real but let's be honest, a lot of these parents and young adults have their priorities all fucked up.
They'll spend a grip on the new Js that come out every month and have their kid in the freshest clothes, but don't have $250 to drop on a Chromebook so their kid can get an education.
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There is no reason not to have at least a cheap laptop if you have a family. I understand phones and all but unless you have a dex or something similar you're limited on certain things. And wifi is a must. Even the cheapest plan. This country really needs infrastructure on the digital side as well. I remember having a cheap ass phone while I was working in Korea in 2008 and I had no problems making video calls on that bitch. My apartment also had at least 100 MG bandwidth too. I was pissed when I got back to the states with the bullshit DSL and Sprint "3G"
Been there...
The digital divide has been real since the beginning. Radio Shack was selling computers in 1980. Online services started around 1986. When I had to travel in 2000 and asked about internet access, Local people would look at me like I asked about unicorns. I was expecting dial-up and they did not even have that. By 2012 internet access was getting commonplace at hotels and such as I traveled.
But in peoples homes , Oh Boy ! ! it is a whole nother would. Many do not have any kinda sit down computer that is hard wired to the net. They have phones and tablets that piggyback the net from the phone. Which is fine I guess if all you are doing is twitter and sending pictures back and forth. To really do something that requires typing, I think you need at the least a Laptop. To me going back a screen to relook at something can be hit or miss on a phone. Back in the 90's early 2000's you ask people about a computer and They would say "I dun'ts needs no computor whats I use a computor for" Well now They need one in the house and starting from scratch is never easy
But in peoples homes , Oh Boy ! ! it is a whole nother would. Many do not have any kinda sit down computer that is hard wired to the net. They have phones and tablets that piggyback the net from the phone. Which is fine I guess if all you are doing is twitter and sending pictures back and forth. To really do something that requires typing, I think you need at the least a Laptop. To me going back a screen to relook at something can be hit or miss on a phone. Back in the 90's early 2000's you ask people about a computer and They would say "I dun'ts needs no computor whats I use a computor for" Well now They need one in the house and starting from scratch is never easy
I commend you for what you did and are doing to help people....but the reality is not everyone does everything at the same pace and degree. Some people need help but you shouldn't look down on them or be frustrated they don't pick it up like you do. Thats conservative thinking...to penalize or denigrate people for simply not being as developed (in whichever way) than they are. Liberals go in the other direction and see ignorance as something to treat people as pitiable. And the people caught in the middle are stuck between being shamed for their ignorance of a thing or infantilizied and helpless.I know some of these younger chicks don't have computers, but they will have expensive ass phones. Won't even be bothered to buy a chromebook for $170. It seems as if some of these younger people look at laptops like older people look at typewriters. I felt like grandpa when I asked a young chick why she didn't have a laptop. Learned to stop asking that shit.
As for this specific topic of education, there are distance learning schools that will send computers(free of charge) to their students AND places that help with Internet. Resources like that have been in place for years, but people can't be bothered to even look for them. Always have to show parents how to parent.
There seems to be a push against distance learning in general coming from all angles. Reminds me of 20 years ago when getting a degree online was a joke now every legit institution has it.
Conservative/liberal thinking isn't black and white. It's fluid like water. Applied to different issues as people please. Most people get successful via conservative thinking. They don't wait around for others to help or do shit for them. That's not to say seeking help is wrong. That's not to say successful people don't get help. But action and drive usually come first. It's the mixture of liberalism(having programs in place which there are now) and conservatism(getting off your ass and doing) that works best in this case.
This is literally a problem a good number of people can solve via Google. Yes, the digital divide is real, but it's made worse by folks waiting for help when the programs are a phone call away. When it comes to issues like this. liberals tend to treat able-bodied adults like incompetent children.
That doesn't help anyone. It's the old give a fish first teaching to fish thing.A parent might not be able to move their kid too a new school district, but best believe back in June they could have made arrangements with a virtual school to get computers and help with the Internet. MSM get off pushing narratives instead of offering solutions. I have posts about homeschooling going back damn near a decade, so I ain't just talking shit when I say people use excuses that folks give to them. Working past those excuses is tough. Been there, done that.
The thing about google is you have to know how to ask the question in order to get the answer you're looking for. And life is like that. People just sometimes don't know how or what way to ask the question to get the answer they need. Sometimes they're even thinking what they need or want isn't even possible. They not aware the programs exist and if not then they're not going to even bother to inquire about it. In the box thinking vs out of the box thinking...A LOT of people think in the box.Conservative/liberal thinking isn't black and white. It's fluid like water. Applied to different issues as people please. Most people get successful via conservative thinking. They don't wait around for others to help or do shit for them. That's not to say seeking help is wrong. That's not to say successful people don't get help. But action and drive usually come first. It's the mixture of liberalism(having programs in place which there are now) and conservatism(getting off your ass and doing) that works best in this case.
This is literally a problem a good number of people can solve via Google. Yes, the digital divide is real, but it's made worse by folks waiting for help when the programs are a phone call away. When it comes to issues like this. liberals tend to treat able-bodied adults like incompetent children.
A parent might not be able to move their kid too a new school district, but best believe back in June they could have made arrangements with a virtual school to get computers and help with the Internet. MSM get off pushing narratives instead of offering solutions. I have posts about homeschooling going back damn near a decade, so I ain't just talking shit when I say people use excuses that folks give to them. Working past those excuses is tough. Been there, done that.
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Oh I agree. The goal should be to push more parents to think for themselves and to own the fact they are fucking parents. Some people just sorry as fuck and need a kick in the ass. There should be shame in not being able to figure out schooling for a kid. Hell, you suppose to figure that out BEFORE having kids.
Now others are handicap or strung out on drugs. That's where the focus should be. Identifying kids in those households. Helping them. But a lot more people incompetent than strung out on drugs or handicap. Hell, we got entitled cac parents who have resources whining that distance learning is hard for them. They having breakdowns cause their kids at home. People ain't shit.
MSM would be better to push the resources(virtual schools and other things) instead of coddling parents who don't look hard enough for solutions that actually exist.
You have to cut off the video if you don't have bandwidth. And you have to pay for Zoom. The free shit is not going to cut it.
I asked could we just do audio, but they had to show her exhibits (pictures and shit). It was a no go. Total shit show.
Conservative/liberal thinking isn't black and white. It's fluid like water. Applied to different issues as people please. Most people get successful via conservative thinking. They don't wait around for others to help or do shit for them. That's not to say seeking help is wrong. That's not to say successful people don't get help. But action and drive usually come first. It's the mixture of liberalism(having programs in place which there are now) and conservatism(getting off your ass and doing) that works best in this case.
This is literally a problem a good number of people can solve via Google. Yes, the digital divide is real, but it's made worse by folks waiting for help when the programs are a phone call away. When it comes to issues like this. liberals tend to treat able-bodied adults like incompetent children.
A parent might not be able to move their kid too a new school district, but best believe back in June they could have made arrangements with a virtual school to get computers and help with the Internet. MSM get off pushing narratives instead of offering solutions. I have posts about homeschooling going back damn near a decade, so I ain't just talking shit when I say people use excuses that folks give to them. Working past those excuses is tough. Been there, done that.
Homie, stop with the politics. All captialistic societies have low income people. Everybody simply cannot be successful in America. America doesn't work that way. If you look at most conservative states they are full of poor people. Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, California, Washington, and LA's federal tax dollars fund many of the poor ass conservatives states. Those states could not survive on their own. So who's treating who like incompetent adults? I guess they can't get off their asses and make shit happen, huh? Massachusetts, spends twice as much per student on education as Mississippi and they get it back from working people paying taxes. Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, are the poorest states in the union. So how's those conservative ideas working for them? You invest in education and it builds community wealth. It ain't political or rocket science.
You should really do some research before you start talking about things that you don't really understand homie. That conservative / liberal mindset is all bullshit. You listening to MSM your damn self because not much of what you're saying is based on facts.
Fuck you going on about. Conservative thinking applied on a personal level when it comes to education/work. Not all-around conservative ideas. Jesus christ with some of you cats. Shit is fluid as fuck. It's like how people can be liberal with other folks money and conservative as hell with theirs. A typical CEO is an example of a conservative thinker when it comes to business.
I'm talking about education and distance learning and how people learn to apply excuses and don't even attempt to put in work. I've been making posts about the topic on this board consistently for damn near a decade and outside this board have helped countless people down the path. So please shut the fuck, don't quote me no more, and keep that shit moving.
Don't get mad because the facts don't add up homie. A conservative is somebody that believes in traditional values. A liberal is somebody open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values. None of that has shit to do with the shit you taking about. Fuck the mainstream media got to do with education? You best claim don't homie.
They need to make internet service a utility and I think you can write that off with taxes.
I'm surprised how many grown adults can't grasp simple programs like Word, PowerPoint, and Excel. Part of it is being lazy. The other part is people grow up always needing help and they know somebody that will bail them out. So many basic skills are lacking.
Have you ever read an email or letter from someone who writes like they are posting a tweet? That shit is fucking maddening. There are a lot of careers that require basic communication skills that aren't really common anymore.
Have you ever read an email or letter from someone who writes like they are posting a tweet? That shit is fucking maddening. There are a lot of careers that require basic communication skills that aren't really common anymore.
So important because in 2023 the digital divide is REAL. In rural parts of SC, people still don't have access to internet in their homes...
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