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forcesteeler said:
Bush was the worst president in American history. Killing innocent people with his endless wars

Trump just has a nasty shitty attitude. But other then that I don’t see how bad he is especially when it comes to black community.
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How has Trump addressed the recent protests?
 
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forcesteeler said:
Lol How is going to get those numbers when he has to spend millions of dollars on TV Ads targeted to the black community. Something NO democrat has ever had too do.

Democrats hoped Kamala Harris could Carry the black vote especially with the sister girl with black women. But that flopped.

Black people want tangibles. We are past the whole first black anything. Most don’t care because they know when they get into office they are not going to do shit for the black community anyways.

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Bruh...this is my 4th presidential election on BGOL. I don't argue this shit. Agree to disagree...
 
forcesteeler said:
Lol How is going to get those numbers when he has to spend millions of dollars on TV Ads targeted to the black community. Something NO democrat has ever had too do.

Democrats hoped Kamala Harris could Carry the black vote especially with the sister girl with black women. But that flopped.

Black people want tangibles. We are past the whole first black anything. Most don’t care because they know when they get into office they are not going to do shit for the black community anyways.

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What is a tangible? Why aren’t you asking for it now or the past four years?
 
forcesteeler said:
This is why Biden has too spend millions of dollars to get the black vote. Just saying orange man is bad is not going to rush blacks to the polls.

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I’m actually asking why are you not asking for it now? You just mentioned that Trump isn’t that bad for Blacks. So why not push for it now? They are discussing funds for local businesses, etc... perfect timing.

So again, it’s not about a Trump being bad or good. It’s about why aren’t you asking for tangibles right now? Why not for the past four years?
 
Trump is going to lose. The polls that proved the most accurate in the last cycle still have Biden up by double digits. Betting odds have tightened but are still in Biden's favor.
 
forcesteeler said:
This is why Biden has too spend millions of dollars to get the black vote. Just saying orange man is bad is not going to rush blacks to the polls.

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I don’t know if this is a good video to bolster your argument. Second, where do you even find this ish? Seriously...what part of the internet is this?

I looked up Cannon Hinnet that mentioned by the Brotha in the video and that is a sad story. Fucked up. Looks like his killer (who is Black) was arrested and being held without bond. So the justice system worked. Now, do you see the difference with Kyle Rittenhouse?

Let me be clear. Black Lives Matter is simply about being treated equally in the eyes of America If a Black man in Oakland commits a murder, I expect that he be arrested and tried by a jury of his peers. I expect that bail would either be revoked or set extremely high given the circumstances. I expect that if the evidence shows that he is guilt beyond reasonable doubt, he should be found guilty. Simple shit. That’s the foundation of the American legal system, which is the foundation of the entire Country.

However, if a white man in this situation isn’t even arrested or let out on a relatively low bail, well then we have two different legal systems and the foundation has failed.
 
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Mylansky said:
I swear Biden's campaigning is garbage. I routinely see Trump ads, signs all over the place no matter where I go.
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Not sure which state you're in.

I'm in Florida, initially it was only Trump ads on TV, now Joe has way more ads than Trump.

As for signs, most of the ones I see also have confederate flags near them which means they were never going to vote democrat anyway.
 
Ninja05 said:
I’m actually asking why are you not asking for it now? You just mentioned that Trump isn’t that bad for Blacks. So why not push for it now? They are discussing funds for local businesses, etc... perfect timing.

So again, it’s not about a Trump being bad or good. It’s about why aren’t you asking for tangibles right now? Why not for the past four years?
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You will not find a post where I said vote for trump. My beef with blacks is giving 95% to a party for the last 70 years that does absolutely nothing for your community. If your community is still broke and in poverty why do you keep voting for the same party.

There is no benefit. It’s time to hold the vote and become a swing voter.

I’m not saying Do NOT vote democrat. You can vote for them. I just do not understand why do you still bitch and complain when your not willing to switch up your tactics. Why do you think doing something decade after decade is going to change anything.
 
praetor said:
Not sure which state you're in.

I'm in Florida, initially it was only Trump ads on TV, now Joe has way more ads than Trump.

As for signs, most of the ones I see also have confederate flags near them which means they were never going to vote democrat anyway.
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Florida is already gone it will go to Trump by 3%+

Trump is NOT even campaigning and Biden is not heading there in his schedule.

Biden's internal polling shows this he isn't even bothering to go to Florida instead he is going on full defence going to Colorado Minnesota and Virginia only states outside the rust belt
 
forcesteeler said:
You will not find a post where I said vote for trump. My beef with blacks is giving 95% to a party for the last 70 years that does absolutely nothing for your community. If your community is still broke and in poverty why do you keep voting for the same party.

There is no benefit. It’s time to hold the vote and become a swing voter.

I’m not saying Do NOT vote democrat. You can vote for them. I just do not understand why do you still bitch and complain when your not willing to switch up your tactics. Why do you think doing something decade after decade is going to change anything.
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Still asking why aren’t you advocating for tangibles now? Wouldn’t that be changing up your tactics? You would be demanding tangibles from the Republicans. That would be different right?
 
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And this is all you need to know about projections...
 
Ninja05 said:
Still asking why aren’t you advocating for tangibles now? Wouldn’t that be changing up your tactics? You would be demanding tangibles from the Republicans. That would be different right?
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Why would I be asking republicans. We don’t blindly give them 95% so I don’t expect republicans to give a fuck.

But I guarantee if we were swing voters they would make suggestions and bend over backwards.

My attitude is don’t be so loyal to a party that does nothing for you and if you want to vote democrat. There is no problem. I just don’t understand why black continue to bitch and complain if your not willing to change tactics.

Especially with systematic racism when most of the black community local and city level is controlled by democrats
 
forcesteeler said:
You will not find a post where I said vote for trump. My beef with blacks is giving 95% to a party for the last 70 years that does absolutely nothing for your community. If your community is still broke and in poverty why do you keep voting for the same party.

There is no benefit. It’s time to hold the vote and become a swing voter.

I’m not saying Do NOT vote democrat. You can vote for them. I just do not understand why do you still bitch and complain when your not willing to switch up your tactics. Why do you think doing something decade after decade is going to change anything.
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Thats nice and all but the republicans dont want the black vote.

Thats why they've ignored us for decades.

They could have offered tangibles at any time. They didnt.

Hell, they could have even faked listening to our issues at any time. They didnt.

They have not tried anything to get the black vote.

And its worked out for them.
 
forcesteeler said:
Why would I be asking republicans. We don’t blindly give them 95% so I don’t expect republicans to give a fuck.

But I guarantee if we were swing voters they would make suggestions and bend over backwards.

My attitude is don’t be so loyal to a party that does nothing for you and if you want to vote democrat. There is no problem. I just don’t understand why black continue to bitch and complain if your not willing to change tactics.

Especially with systematic racism when most of the black community local and city level is controlled by democrats
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So while I still don’t understand the logic of never asking or engaging the Republicans, I do know they give a fuck. That’s why they are trying to suppress the Black vote.

I agree with you. Our community needs to be educated on the issues and vote for the candidate whose policies better address our needs. You agree with that right? If no candidate, why not a write in candidate? I will continue to argue that most of y’all (those that use your arguments) are advocating for Us to not vote period.

Second, systemic racism can only be addressed at the Federal level. That’s why you aren’t asking for reparations from Cities. Sure cities and local politics are important, but that is crazy to think cities can deal with systemic racism. Cities don’t even have the power to ban redlining, etc..
 
Ninja05 said:
So while I still don’t understand the logic of never asking or engaging the Republicans, I do know they give a fuck. That’s why they are trying to suppress the Black vote.

I agree with you. Our community needs to be educated on the issues and vote for the candidate whose policies better address our needs. You agree with that right?

Second, systemic racism can only be addressed at the Federal level. That’s why you aren’t asking for reparations from Cities. Sure cities and local politics are important, but that is crazy to think cities can deal with systemic racism. Cities don’t even have the power to ban redlining, etc..
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So what is the solution we vote for Biden? A dude that was in Politics for 50+ years and Was VP to the first Black president ?

Mike Brown died when Biden was VP, Why did Obama and Biden NOT address Systematic Racism? lol :)

Please stop letting these politicians especially the Democrats fool you with bullshit. When they get back into power they are not going to do shit!

You know why? Because White Liberals and White Conservatives are both Racist and they Both Practice White Supremacy.

Why do you think they Call it Left Wing and Right Wing? Because its like a Plane with Wings, Nothing Change same direction.
 
forcesteeler said:
So what is the solution we vote for Biden? A dude that was in Politics for 50+ years and Was VP to the first Black president ?

Mike Brown died when Biden was VP, Why did Obama and Biden NOT address Systematic Racism? lol :)

Please stop letting these politicians especially the Democrats fool you with bullshit. When they get back into power they are not going to do shit!

You know why? Because White Liberals and White Conservatives are both Racist and they Both Practice White Supremacy.

Why do you think they Call it Left Wing and Right Wing? Because its like a Plane with Wings, Nothing Change same direction.
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Ok so what you said a few posts ago about republicans bending over backwards for the black vote was bullshit.

Dude you went from 'become a swing voter they will respect you' all the way to 'your vote dont matter both sides are the same' real quick lol.
 
LordSinister said:
70 years of nothing? During those 70 years how many of those did they control all 3 houses?
How many laws have the Republicans passed to help black people?
Thought so.
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I don't know man. Asians, Hispanics, and LGBTQ have come a loooooong way in the last 50+ years. By now, I shouldn't have to post the data. None of them groups are known for having mayors that run entire cities for decades, majority city councils, more representatives in government than us.

So that tells us something. Either parties been doing more for them, they been doing more for themselves, or a combination of the two. I see it as a combination.

As for the polls, god help us with this country and the idiot masses. Didn't much give a fuck either way before Covid, but I'd like to get this shit under control. That won't happen with Trump. Unfortunately, 1000 people dropping daily has been normalized. Trump is getting his twisted wish and it's making for an election that is too close for comfort for my liking. :smh:
 
gene cisco said:
I don't know man. Asians, Hispanics, and LGBTQ have come a loooooong way in the last 50+ years. By now, I shouldn't have to post the data. None of them groups are known for having mayors that run entire cities for decades, majority city councils, more representatives in government than us.

So that tells us something. Either parties been doing more for them, they been doing more for themselves, or a combination of the two. I see it as a combination.

As for the polls, god help us with this country and the idiot masses. Didn't much give a fuck either way before Covid, but I'd like to get this shit under control. That won't happen with Trump. Unfortunately, 1000 people dropping daily has been normalized. Trump is getting his twisted wish and it's making for an election that is too close for comfort for my liking. :smh:
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The alphabet group have come a long way on social level.

So have we, in that sense.

Hispanics and Asians dont get more help then we do on a federal policy level, as far as I know.
 
uh...no hes not.

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AllUniverse17 said:
Ok so what you said a few posts ago about republicans bending over backwards for the black vote was bullshit.

Dude you went from 'become a swing voter they will respect you' all the way to 'your vote dont matter both sides are the same' real quick lol.
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I’m talking about systemic racism. That’s what I’m talking about. Tangibles is a different subject
 
BigDaddyBuk said:
uh...no hes not.

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Morning Consult		4,035LVBiden50%44%TrumpBiden+6
President: general electionAug 27-28, 2020B
YouGov		807RVBiden47%41%TrumpBiden+6
President: general electionAug 22-28, 2020B/C
USC Dornsife		2,568LVBiden54%40%TrumpBiden+14
President: general electionAug 22-28, 2020B/C
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Biden is crashing in the Las Vegas betting Odds by Monday he should past Biden. But I kinda knew Biden was not a good pick. 2020 election is almost like 1984.

You had Ronald Regan who was a TV star (see Trump)

They both had a cult like following with a desperate democratic left wing that wanted to beat him with identity politics and women shit and the democrats failed miserably.

History does repeat itself.

 
BigDaddyBuk said:
uh...no hes not.

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President: general electionAug 29, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		4,035LVBiden50%44%TrumpBiden+6
President: general electionAug 27-28, 2020B
YouGov		807RVBiden47%41%TrumpBiden+6
President: general electionAug 22-28, 2020B/C
USC Dornsife		2,568LVBiden54%40%TrumpBiden+14
President: general electionAug 22-28, 2020B/C
USC Dornsife		2,569LVBiden53%41%TrumpBiden+12
President: general electionAug 23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		4,810LVBiden52%42%TrumpBiden+10

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As of right now, Trump is in the worst position an incumbent has ever been in. He’s getting smoked. If dems come out like they did for the midterms, trump is going to get washed. And he knows it. That’s why he already talking about contesting the results.
 
forcesteeler said:
So what is the solution we vote for Biden? A dude that was in Politics for 50+ years and Was VP to the first Black president ?

Mike Brown died when Biden was VP, Why did Obama and Biden NOT address Systematic Racism? lol :)

Please stop letting these politicians especially the Democrats fool you with bullshit. When they get back into power they are not going to do shit!

You know why? Because White Liberals and White Conservatives are both Racist and they Both Practice White Supremacy.

Why do you think they Call it Left Wing and Right Wing? Because its like a Plane with Wings, Nothing Change same direction.
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Quick question - who has the power of the budget? Who can pass laws? That might help you answer your gotcha question about systemic racism. Give me a Democratic majority in the House, Senate and Presidency and I’ll take my chances.

The last time this happened, they passed ACA. Which helped reduce the disparity in heath coverage between minorities and Whites (until 2017) when the trend started to reverse (I wonder why)? Here: ACA Impact

See. I’m gonna give you a little game for free. Presidents can not enact laws, but the administrative branch can dictate policy. Here is how Obama tried to address systemic abuse in police department and how Trump reversed the policies: Police Reform

Systemic racism is not something that is easily addressed. It has to be a comprehensive effort to address racism and practices by all three beaches of government. Here is an example of how a President can continue systemic racism: Fair Housing rule
 
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Ninja05 said:
Quick question - who has the power of the budget? Who can pass laws? That might help you answer your gotcha question about systemic racism. Give me a Democratic majority in the House, Senate and Presidency and I’ll take my chances.
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Obama has a super majority for the first 2 years. More blacks were shot by police under Obama and he did not do shit but sign blue live matter laws.

Plus under Obama what did we get? All we got was the LGBT agenda and More immigrants that we as black Americans got to compete for Jobs.

Then you wonder why the black vote participation is so low. Blacks are waking up and not falling for the shit anymore. Trump don’t scare us cut us a fucking check.
 

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