HBO: Insecure -- Season 5 Official Discussion Thread (Final Season)

[Duece]

Saw this post on Lipstick Alley, Posting it for your opinions

Feel free to disagree, but after this episode, I just know Issa and Lawrence are not end-game, which makes me sad bc I love them. They’re not going to work for multiple reasons: Issa cheated & with Lawrence asking about Daniel during dinner, it shows that he hasn’t quite gotten over it. Issa was the come-up woman, whereas Condola is his trophy woman. Lawrence needed that closure and got it once he and Issa fucked. He’ll keep texting her bc Issa is free, familiar pussy, but he’s emotionally? He’s done with her.

To make matters worse, he kept playing around and joking the entire episode. I understand that they have that camaraderie as exes, but I feel like a man who is serious about locking you down and marrying you would have some more maturity in his interactions with you. He was mature with Condola. He’s not mature with Issa.

 

[ANGRY MAN]

I think those urgent calls from Condola was because she's probably pregnant.
We'll see soon enough.

ooohhh the plot thickens! Been hit with that one before.

 

[XXXplosive]

I think those urgent calls from Condola was because she's probably pregnant.
We'll see soon enough.

That was the first thought that went through my mind too.
Things seem to be going too well for him right now.
Gotta throw a monkey wrench in there somewhere.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

I think those urgent calls from Condola was because she's probably pregnant.
We'll see soon enough.

That would be interesting since part of their fight was due to her not being ready to be married again or being ready to have children right of way.

 

[KrafMatik]

Condola chick strike me as the type to be on birth control faithfully. She didn't have a kid with her husband but gets knocked up by a fling? I can't see it.

 

[zod16]

Condola chick strike me as the type to be on birth control faithfully. She didn't have a kid with her husband but gets knocked up by a fling? I can't see it.

Exactly. People just don't want him back with Issa myself included.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

Saw this post on Lipstick Alley, Posting it for your opinions

Feel free to disagree, but after this episode, I just know Issa and Lawrence are not end-game, which makes me sad bc I love them. They’re not going to work for multiple reasons: Issa cheated & with Lawrence asking about Daniel during dinner, it shows that he hasn’t quite gotten over it. Issa was the come-up woman, whereas Condola is his trophy woman. Lawrence needed that closure and got it once he and Issa fucked. He’ll keep texting her bc Issa is free, familiar pussy, but he’s emotionally? He’s done with her.

To make matters worse, he kept playing around and joking the entire episode. I understand that they have that camaraderie as exes, but I feel like a man who is serious about locking you down and marrying you would have some more maturity in his interactions with you. He was mature with Condola. He’s not mature with Issa.

It should be noted that all their interactions this season have been like that. Remember, Condola brings up the fact him and Issa had all these private jokes they are sharing amongst themselves. The dinner is just an extension of that. I feel the author kind of missed the boat on the joking part because that seems to be the core of their relationship. To me it's about Lawrence being in a better place right now. It's a lot easier to joke about bad shit when you are feeling good about life overall (notice they both are feeling hella good right now because of their recent accomplishments and both of them enjoyed joking with each other). However, they still had a meaningful conversation in which they both admitted where each one had fucked up.

However, I can't lie. When Issa was walking home, it kind of felt like she had moved on. I can see him getting the job in San Fran and her not wanting to be in his way. I mean it not like she can move to San Fran with him, since the show has at least one more season.

As for the rest, I don't see Condola as a prize. Her friend said he was just a fuck buddy. She's recently divorced and she made it clear, she's not ready to settle down. Hell, she couldn't even tell him she just got divorced, he had to find out from the same friend that called him a fuck buddy.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Exactly. People just don't want him back with Issa myself included.

I swear if she chooses nathan I’m going to lose it.

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Andrew has spent his entire life around people with mental disorders. His brother Victor, his sister, Nathan, and now Molly. Nevertheless, Molly is the only one mental misfits who can’t seem to make a positive step in being acclimated to society. Victor bought tickets to the Clippers game, the sister reached out, and Nathan is proud to be Bi ... polar. A little petty talking about Lawrence, a man you don’t know. But okay.

But here’s Molly sending goofy texts about putting up with Issa. I may not think the best of Issa but she’s not give me sainthood now for now, for putting up with this mothafucka.

 

[raze]

I try to give all the characters the benefit of the doubt, but it's impossible to defend Molly in last night's episode. She is incapable of compromise and taking responsibility for her actions. Looks like Andrew might be done with her, too. If he has to constantly choose between her and his brother, what does she think is going happen?

Issa's instinct to connect with Molly was selfish at first, but she did make a genuine effort. Molly thought showing up was good enough, and then got offended later on when Issa agreed that maybe they don't fit anymore. What was Issa supposed to do? Get on her knees, take all the blame, and beg for forgiveness?

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

I try to give all the characters the benefit of the doubt, but it's impossible to defend Molly in last night's episode. She is incapable of compromise and taking responsibility for her actions. Looks like Andrew might be done with her, too. If he has to constantly choose between her and his brother, what does she think is going happen?

Issa's instinct to connect with Molly was selfish at first, but she did make a genuine effort. Molly thought showing up was good enough, and then got offended later on when Issa agreed that maybe they don't fit anymore. What was Issa supposed to do? Get on her knees, take all the blame, and beg for forgiveness?

I don't think Molly was looking for her to beg. I just think Molly wanted Issa to apologize in the first place. For some reason, Issa did't seem to want to acknowledge that she hurt her friends feelings in anyway. Although, it was obvious that they both were looking for the other to apologize. Why neither one couldn't be the first to say "I'm sorry for not respecting your feelings" seemd strange to me.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Think I told y'all about Molly

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Saw this post on Lipstick Alley, Posting it for your opinions

Feel free to disagree, but after this episode, I just know Issa and Lawrence are not end-game, which makes me sad bc I love them. They’re not going to work for multiple reasons: Issa cheated & with Lawrence asking about Daniel during dinner, it shows that he hasn’t quite gotten over it. Issa was the come-up woman, whereas Condola is his trophy woman. Lawrence needed that closure and got it once he and Issa fucked. He’ll keep texting her bc Issa is free, familiar pussy, but he’s emotionally? He’s done with her.

To make matters worse, he kept playing around and joking the entire episode. I understand that they have that camaraderie as exes, but I feel like a man who is serious about locking you down and marrying you would have some more maturity in his interactions with you. He was mature with Condola. He’s not mature with Issa.

Horrible take lol
People love projecting their own relationship shit on other people.


The joking is why they work.
Issa jokes Lawrence jokes
They both were out of place and corny with other partners we've seen them with
So the take is completely wrong
And this lady needs to seek some help

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I try to give all the characters the benefit of the doubt, but it's impossible to defend Molly in last night's episode. She is incapable of compromise and taking responsibility for her actions. Looks like Andrew might be done with her, too. If he has to constantly choose between her and his brother, what does she think is going happen?

Issa's instinct to connect with Molly was selfish at first, but she did make a genuine effort. Molly thought showing up was good enough, and then got offended later on when Issa agreed that maybe they don't fit anymore. What was Issa supposed to do? Get on her knees, take all the blame, and beg for forgiveness?

Exactly lol
She ended the friendship and then issa was supposed to beg??

LMAO

 

[raze]

I don't think Molly was looking for her to beg. I just think Molly wanted Issa to apologize in the first place. For some reason, Issa did't seem to want to acknowledge that she hurt her friends feelings in anyway. Although, it was obvious that they both were looking for the other to apologize. Why neither one couldn't be the first to say "I'm sorry for not respecting your feelings" seemd strange to me.

I hear what you're saying, but Molly is unwilling to be the bigger person for the sake of a friendship or relationship. Everything has to be on her terms.

 

[REDLINE]

Andrew has spent his entire life around people with mental disorders. His brother Victor, his sister, Nathan, and now Molly. Nevertheless, Molly is the only one mental misfits who can’t seem to make a positive step in being acclimated to society. Victor bought tickets to the Clippers game, the sister reached out, and Nathan is proud to be Bi ... polar. A little petty talking about Lawrence, a man you don’t know. But okay.

But here’s Molly sending goofy texts about putting up with Issa. I may not think the best of Issa but she’s not give me sainthood now for now, for putting up with this mothafucka.

Agreed about Andrew, he's giving her plenty of opportunities to grow and change but she's unwilling. She thinks she's always right and she lost Issa and is going to lose Andrew. If he's smart! You can look in his face and see that he's tired of her.

I try to give all the characters the benefit of the doubt, but it's impossible to defend Molly in last night's episode. She is incapable of compromise and taking responsibility for her actions. Looks like Andrew might be done with her, too. If he has to constantly choose between her and his brother, what does she think is going happen?

Issa's instinct to connect with Molly was selfish at first, but she did make a genuine effort. Molly thought showing up was good enough, and then got offended later on when Issa agreed that maybe they don't fit anymore. What was Issa supposed to do? Get on her knees, take all the blame, and beg for forgiveness?

I agree, when someone tells you that they've outgrown you. There's nothing left to say. Not to mention Molly wasn't "Trying", all she did was show up and think that was enough. She's definitely doesn't compromise and that's gonna cost her both relationships.

I don't think Molly was looking for her to beg. I just think Molly wanted Issa to apologize in the first place. For some reason, Issa did't seem to want to acknowledge that she hurt her friends feelings in anyway. Although, it was obvious that they both were looking for the other to apologize. Why neither one couldn't be the first to say "I'm sorry for not respecting your feelings" seemd strange to me.

Man do you know how hard it is for people to say "I"m sorry"? Nobody ever likes to admit when they're wrong, even when shown!

I hear what you're saying, but Molly is unwilling to be the bigger person for the sake of a friendship or relationship. Everything has to be on her terms.

Agreed

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

I believe Issa was willing to talk about the drama and only avoided talking about the drama at first to kill the awkwardness. Since Issa had to do that, it was Molly's job to be like "ok, let's talk about it." That would've been her meeting Issa halfway. Molly didn't do her part, she chose to be fake.

I think even the fact that when the bill came, it either had to be Molly paid for the whole thing, or Issa paid for the whole thing. They didn't even consider splitting the bill. That was like a subtle foreshadow.

Molly ain't gone have shit until she stops sacrificing her relationships just to win arguments. She'll sacrifice her relationship with her dad, her best friend, her man or anybody that is interested in her, and her co-workers just to feel like she won.

 

[playahaitian]

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[raze]

 

[BATMAN]

Shit, I low-key wanna know what happened to Latoya too

 

[A to Dah K]

Issa u bitch
Haha

 

[Aww Skeet Skeet!]

Wow...Issa just can't win. And Molly...I couldn't put up with a chick like that.

Also, who else thought Amanda Seales character had someone else in the hotel room?

 

[mariano42]

Amanda Seales Insecure character is just like her in real life . I was hoping they was going to write her character off.

 

[zod16]

Damn, all of the scenarios I didn't want for Lawrence happened.

 

[zod16]

Amanda Seales Insecure character is just like her in real life . I was hoping they was going to write her character off.

I learned young with someone just like her. She was crazy as shit and gave me all of the signs but that crazy pussy is undefeated and my dumb ass almost got permanently caught up.

 

[Duece]

This scenario doesn't fit this show.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

This scenario doesn't fit this show.

A successful woman raising her kid alone?

 

[Duece]

A successful woman raising her kid alone?

A woman having an unwanted pregnancy after 30

Even hoodrats learn by then.

 

[SamSneed]

Damn derik loves that gal

Lawrence wtf yo, it ain’t hard to not nut in a bitch damn nigga

 

[the13thround]

I think those urgent calls from Condola was because she's probably pregnant.
We'll see soon enough.

Saw this shit coming a mile away.

 

[Who_I_AM]

Saw this shit coming a mile away.

This! and then he took it bad as hell....

 

[zod16]

Saw this shit coming a mile away.

I didn't want to believe they would go that route with the show
All of the times I just thought she was kind of goofy/corny it now seems like she was plotting....

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Saw this post on Lipstick Alley, Posting it for your opinions

Feel free to disagree, but after this episode, I just know Issa and Lawrence are not end-game, which makes me sad bc I love them. They’re not going to work for multiple reasons: Issa cheated & with Lawrence asking about Daniel during dinner, it shows that he hasn’t quite gotten over it. Issa was the come-up woman, whereas Condola is his trophy woman. Lawrence needed that closure and got it once he and Issa fucked. He’ll keep texting her bc Issa is free, familiar pussy, but he’s emotionally? He’s done with her.

To make matters worse, he kept playing around and joking the entire episode. I understand that they have that camaraderie as exes, but I feel like a man who is serious about locking you down and marrying you would have some more maturity in his interactions with you. He was mature with Condola. He’s not mature with Issa.

You do know that LSA is anti Black man

 

[Duece]

You do know that LSA is anti Black man

I don't care about all of that.

I saw a post and brought it here for people's opinions of it.