NBA Pass/Fail: Kyrie Irving Leading Players Who Believe NBA Restart Is Bad Optics, others weigh in

[playahaitian]

Yes absolutely, concerns about their health really are valid.

Only kyrie could make THAT something to be debated just by his mere involvement.

Like he couldn't just donate money, protest, actually get out and endorse a strong candidate who supports black issues.

We know kyrie cares.

Again i think his HEART is in the right place and all this brothers in the nba black white coaches staff and owners need to unite at least first day with a big show of support, drop some money and then make serious effort to have back coaches and executives and ESPECIALLY black owners.

Actually you know what we REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS???

White men overwhelmingly controlling nba media in damn near every sector.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Apparently the Klutch thing. They got paid this year, but what they got paid this year will be taken from next year.

So the owners still win.

A dollar today>>>> a dollar tomorrow.

This also makes Kyries point more stupid.

 

[ukNoWwHo]

if there is ever a pointless season its this one. All it will do is help change the narrative. True nothing changes overnight but timing is everything. I dont think they should play. If will help sentd a strong message to the NFL players.

 

[Mr. Met]

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Kyrie is right, regardless of the weirdo he is. White people are dying for anything to disctraxt from what’s going on. Idk how anyone could be against him in this one(unless you just really miss nba and put that over the movement happening right now)

 

[Venom]

Kyrie already has a ring. Plus Lebron chasing Jordan so he wants to play.

 

[Amajorfucup]

This guy isnt sacrificing shit. And after his "fuck black power" rant, i really dont wanna hear anything he has to say.

 

[Venom]

It's hard to take it from him since he's not playing anyway. They reported on Get Up that Durant and Kyrie and others were upset that only players actively playing would be allowed in the bubble.

I also want to know which one is it

Covid, being sequestered for three months or racial tension

Maybe a combination

Because I think some players are masking shit

CP3 had his chance to make a stand with Donald Sterling...still played for him...kept playing for him...played in that next game.

And the Covid shit, these people at supermarkets and fast food places never stopped working.

Good point
CP3/Larry Johnson tied for my fave player all time. I boycotted Clips games that Spring. I did see them Summer League last summer. CP3 cried they wanted to compete for championship and still got bounced.

 

[playahaitian]

In the end Kyrie voted YES.

i have no idea what he really intended

Good to voice concerns

Especially about Disney employees NOT being tested

But mixing everything in a pot isn't an effective way to get your point across

 

[D'Evils]

 

[AllUniverse17]

if there is ever a pointless season its this one. All it will do is help change the narrative. True nothing changes overnight but timing is everything. I dont think they should play. If will help sentd a strong message to the NFL players.

What message do the NBA players need to send to the NFL players?

By the way, the NFL players cant go without a paycheck. They dont make that kind of money. They have never ever held out before for that specific reason.

 

[KingTaharqa]

This guy isnt sacrificing shit. And after his "fuck black power" rant, i really dont wanna hear anything he has to say.

Are we really shocked a self hating Jordan dickrider wants the season to end given the current circumstances?

I love seeing dudes that have spent their whole lives emulating shut up and dribble niggas and going out of their way not to speak on shit now pretend they revolutionaries.

 

[Lou_Kayge]

What message do the NBA players need to send to the NFL players?

By the way, the NFL players cant go without a paycheck. They dont make that kind of money. They have never ever held out before for that specific reason.

Covid-19 is still out there too. Though it's recoverable in some cases.

 

[AllUniverse17]

The accusation that black people cant chew gum and walk at the same time is downright insulting.

 

[Apimpnamedslickback]

Didn't this nigga say that the earth is flat?

even if he did say the earth is flat, is he wrong for asking for the season to be cancelled?
I 100% back Kyrie, "the distractions" are about to take over media coverage and the real issues at hand.

 

[KingTaharqa]

90% of these dudes aint been tweeting or saying shit. They gonna use their new free time to finally say something now? Stephen Jackson had 0 tweets about black folk or social justice til his boy died. Go look at his IG, it was all rugged individualist bullshit and basketball and Jordan dickriding. Now hes super concerned about distractions.

The truth is, half these dudes dont want a mic in their face right now to be asked about real shit. They prefer being quiet. They cant relate to whats going on at all. Imagine the Clippers win the title, Kawhi will be peppered with questions about social justice the whole playoff. Do you think he can do his aloof "im just a bball player celebrate me for beating LeBron" routine right now? Do you think he wants that?

Giving cats the rest of the year off allows them not to say nothing. Its not like next year these dudes bout to go hard. They will just go along with whatever corporate messaging is concocted next year.

If cats was speaking up before Id give this some cred, but I dont feel sorry for these dudes at all, they gotta hold their own nuts.

 

[playahaitian]

The accusation that black people cant chew gum and walk at the same time is downright insulting.

I think we can agree this is all directed at white folk's obsession with willfull ignorance as a defensive mechanism.

 

[Complex]

so NOW we should be concerned?

Does he realize that football and baseball still exist and they'll still be playing?

So should Netflix and Disney+ stop also, because it's a distraction?

And is he going to stop going on Fox Sports and sacrifice his job?

 

[AllUniverse17]

I think we can agree this is all directed at white folk's obsession with willfull ignorance as a defensive mechanism.

True but what Im saying is whatever work NBA players are putting in right now, they can still do the same while games are being played, but it would be on an NBA national tv stage now.

 

[Complex]

Kyrie is right, regardless of the weirdo he is. White people are dying for anything to disctraxt from what’s going on. Idk how anyone could be against him in this one(unless you just really miss nba and put that over the movement happening right now)

How is them a distraction though?

Did Jim Brown and Kareem stop playing or did they use their platform?

The accusation that black people cant chew gum and walk at the same time is downright insulting.

Yeah, I don't get this at all. So NOW racism is a problem?

I have something I want to post in the basketball thread...but it sort of goes along with here

90% of these dudes aint been tweeting or saying shit. They gonna use their new free time to finally say something now? Stephen Jackson had 0 tweets about black folk or social justice til his boy died. Go look at his IG, it was all rugged individualist bullshit and basketball and Jordan dickriding. Now hes super concerned about distractions.

The truth is, half these dudes dont want a mic in their face right now to be asked about real shit. They prefer being quiet. They cant relate to whats going on at all. Imagine the Clippers win the title, Kawhi will be peppered with questions about social justice the whole playoff. Do you think he can do his aloof "im just a bball player celebrate me for beating LeBron" routine right now? Do you think he wants that?

Giving cats the rest of the year off allows them not to say nothing. Its not like next year these dudes bout to go hard. They will just go along with whatever corporate messaging is concocted next year.

If cats was speaking up before Id give this some cred, but I dont feel sorry for these dudes at all, they gotta hold their own nuts.

You have a good point with this.

If they played, they might be forced to say and do something. Now they can pick and choose.

 

[Archedherback]

so NOW we should be concerned?

Does he realize that football and baseball still exist and they'll still be playing?

So should Netflix and Disney+ stop also, because it's a distraction?

And is he going to stop going on Fox Sports and sacrifice his job?

You might not like him or the person delivering the message but they are right. You want white America to change then you gotta hit em in their pockets. Don't give them a distraction from what's going on. Jewish people have their power and this is ours. Sports ain't shit without black people so let's deny them until they start taking us serious.

 

[playahaitian]

True but what Im saying is whatever work NBA players are putting in right now, they can still do the same while games are being played, but it would be on an NBA national tv stage now.

Ok.

Yeah i can't wrap me head around that one fully. I would have thought the platform of being the first major sport back would be a great way to continue to push the cause forward

But again...

I respect however someone wants to protest.

So if NOT playing is their choice i respect it.

The challenge is baseball aint playing either and its not because of cops killing black people so we gotta be careful.

But if ALL the players saying till you white folks act right we aint playing?

Risking money, endorsements etc

Well damn .

 

[Complex]

You might not like him or the person delivering the message but they are right. You want white America to change then you gotta hit em in their pockets. Don't give them a distraction from what's going on. Jewish people have their power and this is ours. Sports ain't shit without black people so let's deny them until they start taking us serious.

but he's not sacrificing.

He's saying what someone else should be doing.

I'm good with any decision they make.

 

[KingTaharqa]

How is them a distraction though?

Did Jim Brown and Kareem stop playing or did they use their platform?



Yeah, I don't get this at all. So NOW racism is a problem?

I have something I want to post in the basketball thread...but it sort of goes along with here



You have a good point with this.

If they played, they might be forced to say and do something. Now they can pick and choose.

Which is what they want. They dont want to be forced to have to speak on this right now. If the season happens they will. Its why I say alot of these dudes aint gonna be viewed the same. If they cancel the year and cats dont do nothing tangible for the black community with their free time or speak on shit, its actually gonna be worse for them. The season ending isnt gonna give them a pass.

 

[Complex]

I do think the players individually should have had a vote

but if the other side won...would the others play?

Kyrie isn't playing the rest of the season either way...is he going to give up that money he's going to make the rest of the year?

And can't players use that money towards social programs?

Also it's going to affect the salary cap, and their future earnings, and it could also affect the next TV deal...they're already probably not having fans for a while. You're hurting future player deals...are you willing to do that? What did they do to deserve that?

I just have a lot of questions...and has this been thought out. Because having Kyrie and Dwight Howard as the face of social issues and your cause is questionable to say the least.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Yeah I think its a good discussion to have but the NBA coming being a distraction is only a distraction if we let it.

Otherwise, when is it ok to come back at all? NBA will always be a distraction using this flawed argument. And then its Kyrie of all people...........

 

[dtownsfinest]

I do think the players individually should have had a vote

but if the other side won...would the others play?

Kyrie isn't playing the rest of the season either way...is he going to give up that money he's going to make the rest of the year?

And can't players use that money towards social programs?

Also it's going to affect the salary cap, and their future earnings, and it could also affect the next TV deal...they're already probably not having fans for a while. You're hurting future player deals...are you willing to do that? What did they do to deserve that?

I just have a lot of questions...and has this been thought out. Because having Kyrie and Dwight Howard as the face of social issues and your cause is questionable to say the least.

Yeah free agency next year is about to be FUCKED.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Let's also remember cac's hate politics social commentary in their sports.

 

[Van Allen]

This is being overthought. 1) Play. 2) Get your money (Career is too short) 3) Protest injustice if thats your thing. Not that complicated

 

[Archedherback]

This is being overthought. 1) Play. 2) Get your money (Career is too short) 3) Protest injustice if thats your thing. Not that complicated

Not coming at you directly but this is the kind of selfish thinking that keeps black people from ever getting anywhere. Everything is about "get your money" and fuck everybody else. The TV deals will always be there but when is the next time that we will have this opportunity? How many more black men will cops kill before people get this upset again? Think of the impact that we can have for future generations if we can come together now. Just like the Jewish people us as black people need to organize and show America that we are tire of this shit. America needs sports and will watch regardless of when they start playing again.

 

[AllUniverse17]

Not coming at you directly but this is the kind of selfish thinking that keeps black people from ever getting anywhere. Everything is about "get your money" and fuck everybody else. The TV deals will always be there but when is the next time that we will have this opportunity? How many more black men will cops kill before people get this upset again? Think of the impact that we can have for future generations if we can come together now. Just like the Jewish people us as black people need to organize and show America that we are tire of this shit. America needs sports and will watch regardless of when they start playing again.

I hear you but how does not playing help any of that?

 

[AllUniverse17]

Ok.

Yeah i can't wrap me head around that one fully. I would have thought the platform of being the first major sport back would be a great way to continue to push the cause forward

But again...

I respect however someone wants to protest.

So if NOT playing is their choice i respect it.

The challenge is baseball aint playing either and its not because of cops killing black people so we gotta be careful.

But if ALL the players saying till you white folks act right we aint playing?

Risking money, endorsements etc

Well damn .

Respect to any player who says they can't play right now because they got protesting on their mind.

For real.

But as a league wide strategy?

Nah i dont believe in it.

 

[playahaitian]

Respect to any player who says they can't play right now because they got protesting on their mind.

For real.

But as a league wide strategy?

Nah i dont believe in it.

I don't want to say i don't believe NEVER gonna happen or not capable

I'm just saying i think there is another way to do it and still play.

I just heard a great idea

calling the court George Floyd Memorial Court

Or all the players wearing primarily black uniforms

Or nba 2k having black lives matter on all the courts video games

 

[Mack1052]

Have y'all survived without sports for the last three months?

Do we even pay attention to sports in the summer normally?

 

[playahaitian]

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