Democrats Block Senate Stimulus Bill After Negotiations Falter - which side you fall on in this issue NO FENCE SITTING!!

[gene cisco]

No, no stipulations.

Added "language" does nothing to help Americans right now. Any 'immigrant' talk will immediately make this a partisan fight and waste time.

Cocksuckers broke up the other shit into 2 parts. Why not do one for the people and one for the businesses?

And I thought they were going to revisit this shit anyway? Supposed to give out 2 checks, one in April and one in May. If it lasts long, revisit. These clowns play too fucking much.

They waited until the last minute to do this shit and fighting like bitches. And you can guarantee both sides stuck in some niche issues into this shit. They can't fucking help themselves.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

No, no stipulations.

Added "language" does nothing to help Americans right now. Any 'immigrant' talk will immediately make this a partisan fight and waste time.

It already is a partisan fight.

and there is absolutely no way that any immigrant should be punished from taking a check out of the system they spend years paying into.

The money has to go to the people and only the people NSA.

 

[blackpepper]

I don't believe Trump sincerely wants to give middle and lower class citizens any reasonable amount of cash. If he did the Senate Pubs would yield to the party that has the better record on social welfare and get it done. I applaud the Dems, holding the line on real accountability for the trillion buck ocean of money the senate wants to give the treasury sec. Also they're insisting that it go directly to people that will actually spend and recirculate it for the greater good. The federal government should let some of these big corps go under to send a message, particularly if they've spent a large amount on stock buy backs. They gambled and lost provided the government doesn't bail them out again.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Cocksuckers broke up the other shit into 2 parts. Why not do one for the people and one for the businesses?

And I thought they were going to revisit this shit anyway? Supposed to give out 2 checks, one in April and one in May. If it lasts long, revisit. These clowns play too fucking much.

They waited until the last minute to do this shit and fighting like bitches. And you can guarantee both sides stuck in some niche issues into this shit. They can't fucking help themselves.

That is what is happening. My stance remains. No more free money to corporations. Make them pay it back. Any asshole who says otherwise is being contrarian on purpose. If corporations are legally "people" then they should have to get loans like the rest of us. Obviously these "people" have way more capital, political influence then the rest of us. Yet these "people" do not posses a human body but have the same rights as us and more ......thanks a lot scotus judges. So obviously calling a corporation a person is just wrong it needs to be considered an entity instead.

 

[xfactor]

You two....

Its fucking ignorant republicans. Most of them cry about socialism while on Medicaid/Medicare.

So what are we suppose to call out? Your ridiculous claim trump is a Democrat?

If a Democrat was President right now this country would be shut down, everyone would be tested, and lives would be saved.

You still didn’t answer the question, as predicted. Why is the alleged republican POTUS more of a left wing socialist than the democrats? Is trump exposing what the democrats are all about?



$1k won’t help shit. It will be sent right back into the White power structure making them even richer while leaving the American public with the bill.

And people accepting $1k checks but won’t even talk about reparations and/or shit on the #ADoS reparations movement are not only pro-white coons, but cowards.

 

[xfactor]

I don't believe Trump sincerely wants to give middle and lower class citizens any reasonable about of cash. If he did the Senate Pubs would yield to the party that has the better record on social welfare and get it done. I applaud the Dems, holding the line on real accountability for the trillion buck ocean of money the senate wants to give the treasury sec. Also they're insisting that it go directly to people that will actually spend and recirculate it for the greater good. The federal government should let some of these big corps go under to send a message, particularly if they've spent a large amount on stock buy backs. They gambled and lost provided the government doesn't bail them out again.

Why didn’t you say this to the last administration that caused this economic bubble to balloon to unfathomable levels?

 

[Quek9]

I wasn't going to get a cent either way. The republicans are always trying to enrich corporations while shitting on the working man.

 

[easy_b]

Yes this is a bullshit bill $500 billion and you not going to report on the details of dispersement until six months after the bill has passed???? what type of bullshit is that.

 

[xfactor]

so YOU refusing your check???

$1k check? Not needed.

There are a list of things way more valuable to improvement of the economy and to allow the so-called black community the ability to proposer from the policy.

This bailout means shit to me because it shows they have the money to repair all the damage done to the native Americans, the so-called black, aboriginals of this land.

I couldn’t care less if the bill ever passes if any money goes to big corporations or benefits anyone that is not at the bottom of the American totem pole, which is the so-called black community.

 

[Eclipse99]

Man just cancel all student loan debt

 

[easy_b]

Man just cancel all student loan debt

If we had a Democratic senate that could have been possible but not with this Current setup we have now

 

[babygwirl18]

Reading the replies in this post, I’m convinced that our economy is fucked.

 

[Africanama]

The airline industry CEOs alone have requested $50B in direct grants (not loans) from the federal government by month end. Who else besides them will be pulling up to the gubment's tits for a lick. Entertainment, leisure, retail, energy, you name it, they're all waiting in the wings to get a piece. The current administration (slimiest/swampiest ever) is about load up all their cronies with the largest wealth transfer in the history of the world. We could be finished.

The MTA is asking for a $4B Bailout.

 

[blackpepper]

Why didn’t you say this to the last administration that caused this economic bubble to balloon to unfathomable levels?

I never spoke directly to the last admin, but I was still very critical of their pandering and outright corporate welfare while letting lower and middle class citizens crash, get dumped on and raped by the business giants. Until the covid-19 pandemic broke didn't the current admin take all the credit for the unfathomable heights of the stock markets.

 

[hardawayz16]

It already is a partisan fight.

and there is absolutely no way that any immigrant should be punished from taking a check out of the system they spend years paying into.

The money has to go to the people and only the people NSA.

Yeah, you'd rather a fight for weeks about stipulations for a small minority in this country than sending out checks right now to so all Americans can buy groceries in the next few weeks.

 

[xfactor]

I never spoke directly to the last admin, but I was still very critical of their pandering and outright corporate welfare while letting lower and middle class citizens crash, get dumped on and raped by the business giants. Until the covid-19 pandemic broke didn't the current admin take all the credit for the unfathomable heights of the stock markets.

for reference:

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Of course trump took credit for it, but the stock market is not a measure of economic strength. The DEBT is. The larger the DEBT grows, the weaker the economy because that is more owed to the international banking cartels.

so what POTUS caused the biggest debt increase? 90% of the problems in America are money related. Fix the money system and things will change overnight.

 

[Watcher]

You still didn’t answer the question, as predicted. Why is the alleged republican POTUS more of a left wing socialist than the democrats? Is trump exposing what the democrats are all about?



$1k won’t help shit. It will be sent right back into the White power structure making them even richer while leaving the American public with the bill.

And people accepting $1k checks but won’t even talk about reparations and/or shit on the #ADoS reparations movement are not only pro-white coons, but cowards.

I did answer. Republicans have always been hypocrites.

They use socialism to fire up their base that’s it. And their base is too dumb to understand socialism

 

[sammyjax]

Reading the replies in this post, I’m convinced that our economy is fucked.

Looks like you voted for the ones doing the fucking

 

[Soul On Ice]

If you make upwards of a 100k a year the fuck you need money for???

Finna be a plethora of BGOL millionaires begging for a stimulus package here

 

[footloose]

Dems pushing for 2k a month for as long as this last. Rep pushing for on me time check 1200

 

[blackpepper]

for reference:

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Of course trump took credit for it, but the stock market is not a measure of economic strength. The DEBT is. The larger the DEBT grows, the weaker the economy because that is more owed to the international banking cartels.

so what POTUS caused the biggest debt increase? 90% of the problems in America are money related. Fix the money system and things will change overnight.

I haven't read the article you referenced, but it doesn't really mean much to say the Obama admin added the most in gross dollars to the debt. If they simply maintained the trajectory they inherited it that would be a forgone conclusion. In my mind that would be a positive accomplishment given the mess they stepped into day one. Do you think trump will out do Obama? Can you put up the numbers for the other admins before him.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

If you make upwards of a 100k a year the fuck you need money for???

Move to San Francisco and ask that question.

 

[thismybgolname]

Reading the replies in this post, I’m convinced that our economy is fucked.

Beyond fucked.

We're headed towards something that will make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.

 

[Soul On Ice]

why would you want this corona bail out check for $1,000 but not even for american chattel slavery and Jim Crow reparations that are worth trillions?

sounds like some of you brothas are exposed as hypocrites and racialists only, against the bill because trump is pushing for it.



thoughts in this @KingTaharqa @Soul On Ice @VAiz4hustlaz?

I haven't read up on this enough to state an informed, unemotional opinion on the subject.

I cant take the BGOL demobots serious on anything because they clearly have a slanted view, and literally hate any legislation that come from the Republiclans.

 

[John Million]

Man just cancel all student loan debt

I heard Senator Warren this morning on Bloomberg talking about that. Said if not cancelling the whole thing, then at least knock off 10k
I hope there's something in the bill for student loan debt

 

[blackpepper]

I haven't read up on this enough to state an informed, unemotional opinion on the subject.

I cant take the BGOL demobots serious on anything because they clearly have a slanted view, and literally hate any legislation that come from the Republiclans.

Tell us what legislation the current Republican caucus has proposed that BGOL should have supported? Be specific.

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Yeah, you'd rather a fight for weeks about stipulations for a small minority in this country than sending out checks right now to so all Americans can buy groceries in the next few weeks.

Dude, $500B is a lot of fucking money. The size of the group its going out to has fuck all to do with it. If anything, its worse because its going to a "minority of the population" I've been reading this thread and this is probably the most irresponsible statement I've read so far.
So, your stance is "shut up you peons and take your hush money check while we shift a shitload of wealth around!"
$1k ain't shit if it costs you more in the long run.

 

[babygwirl18]

Looks like you voted for the ones doing the fucking

No I’ve always voted Democrat. But it’s obvious that far too many people have absolutely no idea how our economy works.

Thie idea that the government can somehow just pay everyone until coronavirus passes, and everything will be ok, is silly.

The republicans have been taken over by their “anti-science” fringe. Now the democrats are about to be taken over by their “anti-economics” fringe.

Both sides are equally clueless.

 

[blackpepper]

No I’ve always voted Democrat. But it’s obvious that far too many people have absolutely no idea how our economy works. Thie idea that the government can somehow just pay everyone until coronavirus passes, and everything will be ok, is silly. The republicans have been taken over by their “anti-science” fringe. Now the democrats are about to be taken over by their “anti-economics” fringe. Both sides are equally clueless.

I haven't seen or heard of anyone suggesting this. If you have please site it. I agree that far too many people don't know how our economy works, but its not exactly a science. It doesn't perform exactly as planned or expected because people would game it to their singular advantage. What I hear people saying in this thread is they don't want the government to fund the too big to fail corporations again until they're on solid ground, but ignore the long term prospects of lower to middle working class people. Is that too complicated an explanation?

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Yeah, you'd rather a fight for weeks about stipulations for a small minority in this country than sending out checks right now to so all Americans can buy groceries in the next few weeks.

The deal Mitch wanted to push is not a good deal. I could care less about some minorities you mentioned but that deal is ass, you know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. If they do a half-ass deal and shit continues to get worse they will have to offer another package and it will be even more expensive.

 

[geechiedan]

Move to San Francisco and ask that question.

I can get by on cereal and baloney sandwiches

 

[easy_b]

Reading the replies in this post, I’m convinced that our economy is fucked.

Our economy was fucked before the virus even came

 

[Famous1]

If you make upwards of a 100k a year the fuck you need money for???

Same thing you need it for.

 

[easy_b]

No I’ve always voted Democrat. But it’s obvious that far too many people have absolutely no idea how our economy works.

Thie idea that the government can somehow just pay everyone until coronavirus passes, and everything will be ok, is silly.

The republicans have been taken over by their “anti-science” fringe. Now the democrats are about to be taken over by their “anti-economics” fringe.

Both sides are equally clueless.

Don’t you start that both sides bullshit

 

[Soul On Ice]

Tell us what legislation the current Republican caucus has proposed that BGOL should have supported? Be specific.

You sound emotional.
I just said that I haven't the damn thing yet lol

Or do you mean in the last 3 years?