Lol this even made Williams scold Jay and Bey
It’s funny
It’s funny
Jay-Z Backed Out of Super Bowl Halftime Show When NFL Asked Him to Bring Friend UPDATE: Jay & Bey don't stand for anthem
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Gloria Estefan tells Entertainment Tonight that rapper JAY-Z, who's organizing the halftime show, called her husband Emilio with an invitation for Gloria to join in the festivities.
ok now that's funny
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surprised Cardi was not invited to perform?
she was there and they played her song
Boomer Esiason’s ignorance on full display with ridiculous rant on Colin Kaepernick’s protest
By EBENEZER SAMUEL
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
SEP 01, 2016 | 8:59 PM
Boomer Esiason wants all protests held behind closed doors so they won't interfere with the games. (Andy Kropa/Andy Kropa/Invision/AP)
All the arguments against Colin Kaepernick's national anthem protest are starting to sound the same. Days after the world took notice of the 49er quarterback's protest, an established anti-Kaepernick rhetoric has crystalized — criticism that refuses to recognize or understand what a protest is, or why it works in the first place.
Those same tired lines have now come from the mouth of Boomer Esiason. In an interview this week with Newsday, the former NFL quarterback, now a WFAN radio show host, ripped Kaepernick's actions, and sent a warning shot to other pro athletes, including a certain New York Knick: Do not follow in the footsteps of the 49er signal-caller or they'll be trouble.
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"I cannot say it in the strongest, most direct way, that it's an embarrassment and it's about as disrespectful as any athlete has ever been," Esiason said. "And I don't care what the cause is. The NFL football field is not a place for somebody to further their political ambitions. Can you imagine if a player went out on the field with a 'Make America Great Again' hat and let's vote for (Donald) Trump? It's the same thing."
Never mind that Esiason's little rant conveniently ignored Tom Brady quietly stumping for that Trump fella earlier this offseason, strategically positioning a "Make America Great Again" hat in his locker during an interview, for all to see. Never mind that Esiason is part of a media machine that routinely asks athletes about their political feelings in the first place.
Esiason wasn't done. He practically issued a dare to Carmelo Anthony, another increasingly prominent figure in the rise of activist athletes, cautioning the Knick not to replicate Kaepernick's actions.
"... if Carmelo Anthony walks on the court in a Knicks uniform and starts in with this, I think it's going to create a lot of problems," Esiason said.
49ers QB Colin Kaepernick sparks national debate by taking a stance against the national anthem. (Ben Margot/AP)
It was the most dense of remarks from Esiason, a yawner of an argument. And when it was done, when Esiason stepped off his soapbox of ignorance and privilege, you wondered (perhaps hoped) if he might have lit a fire under Anthony, and set the stage for an NBA uprising.
Here's what Esiason and likeminded critics don't get: There really is no "right" place for protest, because then it wouldn't really be a protest, would it? What Esiason wants is an army of athletes never disturbing his TV viewing pleasure.
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What Esiason wants is athletes, those who are angered, somehow objecting in silence, just as they've always done — the silence that got us to this point in the first place. He doesn't grasp what Kaepernick and other voices making use of their platforms realize, that a charity event with filet mignon wasn't getting the job done.
Creating "problems"? Really Boomer?
That's the whole objective of Kaepernick's protest, of any protest really. From Muhammad Ali refusing to fight in Vietnam to John Carlos and Tommie Smith raising their hands in a rare Olympic political gesture in 1968, to the Los Angeles Clippers' wearing their warmups inside out after Donald Sterling's racist phone chatter came to light, the objective an athlete's protest is all about creating dissonance, a disturbance.
Front page of the New York Daily News for August 28, 2016
We don't typically notice what our athletes do off the field. Sports fans are trained to tune in at tipoff, to make a beeline for the concession stands or exits when the action stops. We can conveniently pick and choose what we want to hear.
Esiason likes it that way, which is why the 55-year-old Long Island boy and expert on protests "suggests" a different method that won't bug him so much. You hold an event, or a banquet, one of those snazzy affairs Esiason might show up to, in fact, where he could make a convenient little tax-deductible donation, Esiason suggests.
You spend your Tuesday afternoon working with some kids in a charity event. You shoot out a few tweets, maybe an Instagram post. You act like Anthony or LeBron James, athletes who are indeed doing what they can to change a broken political system — but aren't intruding upon Esiason's precious three hours on Sunday.
"At the end of the day, if he wants to do it in a news conference, if he wants to do it and talk about it at the ESPYs and talk about it at an event he's having, more power to him," Esiason said. "Those are the places you should be doing it, like LeBron James is doing it, like Carmelo Anthony is hoping to do it."
Translation: Stop the action that Boomer Esiason can't simply ignore.
In Boomer Esiason's world there is a time and place for protest, like at the ESPYs. (Kevin Winter/Getty Images)
Except we've had plenty of that, and it still hasn't healed the splintering relations between law enforcement and African-American communities.
The systemic problems require work from several angles, so James' grassroots efforts and Anthony's peaceful projects certainly have their place. And Kaepernick simply approaches from a different angle, and it's his angle that has excited the national conversation, his angle that has forced Esiason and those like him to take notice.
Kaepernick isn't "severely underinformed," as Esiason also said when he suggested the quarterback (trite argument about the challenges of police upcoming) "ride in a cop car ... going to places where guns and violence are everyday occurrences."
Instead, Kaepernick realizes that only a different kind of protest can finish the work. Three years into the Black Lives Matter era, and after decades of the banquets Esiason loves, there are the deaths of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling, and so much persistent racism, that Kaepernick's protest led to tweets calling him the N-word.
So he infiltrates the bastion of American escapism that is sports. And he's doing it, at least in part, to capture the attention of those like Boomer Esiason, forcing them to reconsider what the anthem stands for and for who the nation doesn't stand.
It's Boomer Esiason's own fault that he himself doesn't want to pay attention.
Beyoncé and Jay-Z draw criticism, praise after staying seated during Super Bowl LIV national anthem
Beyoncé and Jay-Z are among the most famous names in the music business, so it's understandable that fans will watch them with like a hawk.
The smarter of US? From the very beginning.
So you're saying there's no comparison?
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I bet on the chiefs cause mahones is a bad motherfukc, but he’s a square and grew up sheltered And the team is very white. I expected that. Had it been the ravens it would of been a no go. Not surprised at all.
any grown man excited to go to Disney world has no problem with trumps antics
This anthem shit still causing cacs to go nuts.
Sadly, they too stupid to know they won. Kaep can't even get a clipboard gig and pigs still out here piggin'.
Sadly, they too stupid to know they won. Kaep can't even get a clipboard gig and pigs still out here piggin'.
Is there a comparison between Lizzo and Beyonce?
I love a debate and appreciate your perspective.....when it's based on facts. But, most of the four long paragraphs you wrote is based on conjecture and assumptions.
You don't know Kaep nor Jay, cuz I'm sure you'd have mentioned it, if you did. So, any guess as to their motives is just that, a guess...certainly not a fact....well maybe to you it is.
As far as slavemasters, never said we still have them, however the old "pit the dark ones against the lighter ones" strategy is still in effect for some of our people unfortunately.
And finally, to quote Kanye's slavey was a choice....and then be able to somehow draw an analogy to how I talk...like a slave
When you can't defend your position, hurl insults.
Similarities: both black women..both singers
Ar this point, you're just being obtuse.
Because the question is obtuse. You want to compare a movement that had many groups and agendas, charismatic leaders, organized with clear strategies and goals, funding, support of the people worldwide, and ultimately changed history...
to Kap.
Because the question is obtuse. You want to compare a movement that had many groups and agendas, charismatic leaders, organized with clear strategies and goals, funding, support of the people worldwide, and ultimately changed history...
to Kap.
The question is obtuse?
What question are you referring to?
I called YOU obtuse.
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So in your mind, a movement to gain civil rights can't be compared to a movement to highlight the injustices blacks face by the police?
One singer can't be compared to another?
You either REALLY don't know what a comparison is or you're trolling.
I definitely threw some conjecture in there but there’s plenty of facts. All of this already happened.I love a debate and appreciate your perspective.....when it's based on facts. But, most of the four long paragraphs you wrote is based on conjecture and assumptions.
You don't know Kaep nor Jay, cuz I'm sure you'd have mentioned it, if you did. So, any guess as to their motives is just that, a guess...certainly not a fact....well maybe to you it is.
As far as slavemasters, never said we still have them, however the old "pit the dark ones against the lighter ones" strategy is still in effect for some of our people unfortunately.
And finally, to quote Kanye's slavey was a choice....and then be able to somehow draw an analogy to how I talk...like a slave
When you can't defend your position, hurl insults.
We saw the same things Jay did by now. My conjecture is that he saw it well before we did because he’s closer to it. I don’t se how that’s too far fetched.
But Kaep DID do all of that.
And you DID use a slave analogy talking to a person in 2020. You did that, not me.
And that matches exactly what you mean by , “when you can’t defend your position, hurl insults “. You’re the one who referred to yourself as a slave in the 21st century. The insult is that you think I actually buy that line of thinking too. Now , if you’re willing to drop that, and make a go at another analogy, I’m cool with that. People make mistakes sometimes
Nah, it’s not causing CACS to go nuts. Maybe a few , but mostly They’re just making simple observation. And honestly, it’s the media making people on both sides flip out. jay and Bey are the ones going nuts right now, Cuz now if they put a camera on them and they’re standing up with their hands on their hearts , we’ll see the woke going bananas, just as they have been since he did this deal. But the deals done, and it ain’t going no where. This wouldn’t be an issue in the first place if it was t for Kaep. Black people been singing the fuck out of the national anthem for years. Now y’all got a few internet weirdos making noise.they managed to make it last for three years It’s almost died down.This anthem shit still causing cacs to go nuts.
Sadly, they too stupid to know they won. Kaep can't even get a clipboard gig and pigs still out here piggin'.
I said this back in 2016. People aren't seeing him play. So you see Colin up there throwing for 4 TDs in a game and then you have these other sad QBs out here throwing picks left and right...fans will start complaining...at this point, im not sure if Colin wants to play football anymore...i think he's fine with being an activist...while he looks good throwing the ball and everything, it may take him a full offseason to get his timing back..
Bruh.
Who didn't know about police brutality before Kap took a knee?
What has Kap accomplished that changed ANYTHING regarding police brutality?
Whens the last time he spoke on it?
When's the last time he spoke on ANYTHING that didn't revolve around him getting his old job back?
What 60's civil rights icon do you think would be trying to get his old job back after protesting at work?
Lemme start by saying the areas in bold...I'm really not sure you're referring to...what already happened? saw what same things?
I'm still tryna figure out what you meant, by what I highlighted in your first post we discussed.
As far as the slave reference. I didn't call myself a slave and damn sure didn't mention the 21st century.
I simply referred to slave masters pitting one group of blacks against another to keep us divided, and how they aren't around to do that, but WE still commit this offense against each other.
To say you're at odds with Kaep or anyone is your prerogative. But to go out of your way to type about his skin color, as if that makes him less of a black man is not cool for another black man.
There's an ol saying that says every journey begins with one step. Kaep took the first step. Unfortunately, he didn't get the support he deserved. However I wouldn't say his protest was in vain.
None of us can predict how this will play out in the future, nor who else it inspires to pick up where he left off.
Truth be told, I'm not sure if I or how many other people, would sacrifice their career, after they didn't get the support from the same people they were trying to help.
First step in doing what? Publicizing an issue that was getting plenty of publicity?
That's all it takes to be compared to civil rights icons of the 60s? Men and women who changed the world?
Wow.
North Dallas forty shit.
You're exactly right there. I wrote that wrong. I meant to say we already saw the things that Kaep did.
But we've also already seen what Jay has done as well, so it ain't that far off, but it ain't what I meant.
I'm not at odds with Kaep. I don't know him. I just see what it is. Most people do by now. Some people still wanna believe different. His skin color and how he's overcompensating for it, we know this is a thing. It's inconvenient to say, but it is what it is. I don't think it was all intentional. He's confused. Him being a mixed kid raised by white parents plays a part too. Then meeting an Egyptian girl. This is so obvious, it shouldn't be something to be upset to hear. But even without all that, his actions or inaction spoke it. Poor guys confused. But thanks to Nike he didn't go dead broke. He'll be fine.
So lemme see if I understand...thousands of people bought his jersey in support..he's received numerous accolades for his stance..inspired people everywhere, but a guy on a porn board isn't satisfied that he did enough.
Yeah, I'm sure he's all broke up over that.
He's prolly off crying in the car somewhere.
If nothing else, maybe you learned what a comparison is and the meaning of the word obtuse.
My work is done.
Lol yeah. But she's done it twice. I remember saying she shoulda been on it when I was watching. Her in Miami w Jlo and Shaquira woulda been a shit downGloria Estefan tells Entertainment Tonight that rapper JAY-Z, who's organizing the halftime show, called her husband Emilio with an invitation for Gloria to join in the festivities.
Mannnn, I'm just asking...begging. Please give me a for example, so we're on the same page. "I meant to say we already saw the things that Kaep did" ,for example (or ie) he did XYZ.
I have to try to guess what you're referring to and I don't wanna have to go back and read everything to make the connection.
I feel you MIGHT have a point with your analysis of how his skin color and upbringing may play a part in this..not sure the significance of an Egyptian chick. But again that's just your opinion...it's possible, even probable, but I wouldn't call it obvious.
So lemme see if I understand...the above is all it takes for comparisons to 60s civil rights leaders? Many of whom lost their lives for the rights we enjoy today?
Gotcha.
Malcolm. Martin. Medgar. Kap.
Samesies.
I already wrote em to you earlier.
Of course it's "my opinion" but it's not just probable , it's HIGHLY probable.
The Egyptian chick part as in, because if you know, Egyptians in America , generally classify as white. His chick grew up in a hiphop environment , And she works for hot97. She's assimilated to that environment and culture. I noticed when this first started happening , him becoming "conscious" coincides with the date he started dating her. It was 3 years ago, but I suspected it then so I looked at it on his social media. Since they're both celebs, it appeared in blogs that they were dating on a certain date. Then you could see a month after that he went from showing his shoe collections and shirt off pics, to woke material. That's when he started quoting Che Guevara, and growing his afro. He's since deleted all the other shit , once all the attention turned to him, and he went to the SJW image. Even gave away the shoes, which is a Nice touch. Coincidentally, that was when he was a backup quarterback. When he was a starter, he wasn't on none of this. He doesn't even post his family anymore.
And don't forget the Nike deal. All champions , then him.
Serena, Jordan, tiger Woods , Kaep Samesies
Sir, if you couldn't see the comparison between Lizzo and Beyonce, I wouldn't expect you to get this one either..too abstract a concept I spose..
Sorry this is so difficult for you. I tried.
I wonder if ANYONE can even attempt to answer this.
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