Deion Sanders:"They're letting too many players in the Hall of Fame."

[slam]

yeah thats all he did ...no big feat ...only 2 super bowls ..2 MVP`s..only against arguably the Best team n QB ever ...

man those wins burning these eli haters soul n i luv it ...u cant take em away bruh...lol

lets ask some of these hall of fame QB`s tht wish they had one...

some of these teams that dont even have one..shit never even played for one..

KC jus made it to the super bowl after 50 yrs...how old r y`all eli haters again ..Andy reid for all his so called Brilliance...

n all they did was make it ..they havent won yet ..?

Frisco for all their bowl wins havent won in over 20 yrs...

man y`all need to stop ...down playing those wins like they aint shit...lol..thats all he did ...wtf ...

u know how hard that shit is ..especially when u got to depend on so many people jus to get there n then win ..

he`s one man on a 11 man team ....this shit is def the ultimate team sport u need everybody to win ...coaches n all

i blame the Pats...they made tht shit look easy playing in the afc east ...

n i wish i was the steelers...playing in that sorry ass division with the Bengals n the browns...i would b in the playoffs every yr 2 ...

steelers need to kick themselves in the ass..they should have been to n won way more with all those opportunists...smh

at least the Pats took advantage of tht lame as afc east ...

oh n name a hall of famer he has played with on offence ...i`ll wait ...

 

[the13thround]

Eli had a STRANGE career.
I know he has two Super Bowl MVPs, but I don't think you are a HOF QB if you were never considered one of the 5 best QBs in the league during any given season.
Being consistently slightly above average for 16 seasons is a heck of an accomplishment, but not HOF worthy.

 

[ronmch20]

Maybe he was one of them

Whoa player... Prime Time is considered by most to be the best DB ever.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

What if your cynicism is misplaced and he's not "sneak dissin'" but giving his honest opinion and could probably name several people but was not aiming at anyone in particular? That's not a possibility? (The idea that he was talking about TO seems crazy to me.)

I didn't say he was talking about TO; I said his generalizing "everybody" includes TO by default of him not naming names. You seem to think "opinion" and sneak dissin are mutually exclusive. They're not. He is literally dissin a fuckload of guys without saying directly to whom it concerns. Which is the very definition of sneak dissin. See: His reply when dude asked him about Eli Manning directly... he whiffed. Shit is whack. Name names.

 

[ronmch20]

Wonder if Drew Pearson called Deion after the show crying like a bitch again about not getting in.

 

[jack walsh13]

You do know when he retired Bettis was 5th leading rusher of all times and is currently number 8. He had 8 1000 yard seasons,was 6 time Pro Bowler,3 time ALL-Pro,won SB title,and his 3.9 yard average was due to his last 3 seasons when his career average dropped from 4.2 to 3.9. He was a slam dunk HOF Fullback.

Thank you.

 

[christop]

I don't think Jerome Bettis should be in there. How the hell can a rb with a career average per carry less than 4.0. Yards get in Canton. Pure fuckery.

Bettis has almost 14000 yards and 91 touchdowns you crazy. I'm not a fan like that but he's deserving. The way he was used alot of his carries were for short yardage for first down and the red zone he was very valuable.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Eli had a STRANGE career.
I know he has two Super Bowl MVPs, but I don't think you are a HOF QB if you were never considered one of the 5 best QBs in the league during any given season.
Being consistently slightly above average for 16 seasons is a heck of an accomplishment, but not HOF worthy.

there's 30 teams in nfl... What you saying any qb that s top 6-10 in stats should never be considered hall of fame worthy even if they got their team to the playoffs every season? Even if they won a few superbowls?... Imagine being a rb in the era of barry Sanders and emmit smith..those 2 were pretty much top 2 rushers in an era which means you only got 3 other slots to fill to be top 5 or else you won't go to the hall of fame by your logic... Same could be said in eras with Jerry rice, sterling sharpe, Michael irvin.. Anybody 6 or lower would never make the hall of fame

 

[AllUniverse17]

Yeah, this is all bullshit.

The Giants in 2011 had a below average defense and one of the worst rushing offensives in the league because the offensive line was the worst in the league. Eli couldn't make it through one game without getting destroyed because his tackles were awful. You can say Eli rode the defense and running game in 2007, I'll give you that, but Eli played out of his fucking mind throughout 2011 and put the team on his back and carried them to the Superbowl. That's why up until a couple years ago, Eli lead the league in 4th quarter comebacks because his defenses were usually fucking awful.

Eli is #7 all time in passing yards and touchdowns, and multiple Superbowl winning MVP and made 3 of the best throws in NFL history.

He's a fucking hall of famer.

He is not a hall of famer.

He's had 2 great super bowl runs. Beat the best in the biggest moments. Twice. He made the plays for that to happen.

But Hall of Famers should have more then 2 years on their resume to rely on. (I feel the same way about TD by the way)

Outside of those 2 years, Eli was very good one year, average to good a bunch of years and trash for all the rest. There is no dominant stretch there.

To me hall of famers are the guys who dominated the game. They had dominant CAREERS. Eli had two dominant playoff runs.

 

[tallblacknyc]

He is not a hall of famer.

He's had 2 great super bowl runs. Beat the best in the biggest moments. Twice. He made the plays for that to happen.

But Hall of Famers should have more then 2 years on their resume to rely on. (I feel the same way about TD by the way)

Outside of those 2 years, Eli was very good one year, average to good a bunch of years and trash for all the rest. There is no dominant stretch there.

To me hall of famers are the guys who dominated the game. They had dominant CAREERS. Eli had two dominant playoff runs.

7 yrs 25+ td..3 yrs 30+ td... 7 yrs 4000+ yds... 10yr 3500+ yds... 14 yrs 3000+ yds... No matter what ya say no gmen qb had similar stats.. Which mean best qb for gmen.. To be the best person at a franchise position mean that teams hall of famer

 

[AllUniverse17]

7 yrs 25+ td..3 yrs 30+ td... 7 yrs 4000+ yds... 10yr 3500+ yds... 14 yrs 3000+ yds... No matter what ya say no gmen qb had similar stats.. Which mean best qb for gmen.. To be the best person at a franchise position mean that teams hall of famer

Cool now can you name me the years that he was a top 5 qb?

Big difference between g-men ring of honor and the pro football hall of fame.

Eli is obviously a shoe in for the ring of honor.

The hall of fame though? Not to me.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Cool now can you name me the years that he was a top 5 qb?

Big difference between g-men ring of honor and the pro football hall of fame.

Eli is obviously a shoe in for the ring of honor.

The hall of fame though? Not to me.

do you think every player in the hall was a top 5 player?

 

[AllUniverse17]

do you think every player in the hall was a top 5 player?

No because i know some guys are in there due to team success (Terry Bradshaw) and also because of NFL business decisions (Joe Namath).

However, for the majority of them, yes at least for few years they were considered top 5 at their own position.

 

[Thedod]

I feel a 1 superbowl ring gives you credibility, 2 Superbowl rings buts you on the ballot, 3 superbowl rings gets you extra consideration and 4 Superbowl rings Gurantees you are in the HOF (no vote needed)

 

[slam]

eli u burning their soul player ...

think they mad now...wait till u get in ....

Eli Manning Hall of Fame debate is no-brainer for Richard Sherman

There is no debate in Richard Sherman’s mind: Eli Manning belongs in the Hall of Fame. To Sherman, Manning is a Hall of Famer because he twice led the Giants to magical Super Bowl runs and beat Tom…

nypost.com

 

[Mr. Met]

That’s in every sport, but especially baseball.

It's about Eli Manning...

Nah, it’s not like it’s Romo. He liked Eli.

 

[jasonblacc]

1st off he wasnt elected 1st ballot and he was absolutely a HOF QB,He led the Rams to 2 SB and he led the Arizona Cardinals to the SB I mean the fuckin Arizona Cardinals. He was a 2 time NFL MVP had a winning record in regular season and postseason. His stats were being compared to Dan Marino cause they were incredible.

His MVP were a product of the system.
He had some the best Wr to play and probably the best OL men to ever play
Every STL qb after him put up numbers. Marc Bulger shit that system is the reason Ryan Fitzpatrick is in the league now.
He really had three elite season everything else was ehhh

 

[jasonblacc]

eli u burning their soul player ...

think they mad now...wait till u get in ....

Eli Manning Hall of Fame debate is no-brainer for Richard Sherman

There is no debate in Richard Sherman’s mind: Eli Manning belongs in the Hall of Fame. To Sherman, Manning is a Hall of Famer because he twice led the Giants to magical Super Bowl runs and beat Tom…

nypost.com

Had Richard and that defense did it’s job against the patriots like Giants did he would have two Super Bowls.

 

[jasonblacc]

Would you put Zach Thomas in the Hall of Fame?

I would. 4 all pros
Derrick brooks has 5 and he’s in so I think he should get in. FYI he’s not close to Derrick rooks but the numbers support him getting in and they played the same amount of years

 

[therealjondoe]

I would. 4 all pros
Derrick brooks has 5 and he’s in so I think he should get in. FYI he’s not close to Derrick rooks but the numbers support him getting in and they played the same amount of years

I kind of think so but I'm biased cuz I was a dolphin fan

 

[slam]

speaking of since he only won 2 super bowls....only 2 no big whop...

lets ask Marino how easy tht shit is ...?

did he even get back to one after he lost tht 1st one...? How many he play in ... Warren Moon...?

thts how hard tht shit is...hard to jus even make it to one...much less win & win twice...foh...

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Eli overview
2004: No playoffs
2005: 1 & done
2006: 1 & done
2007: SB win
2008: 1 & done
2009: No playoffs
2010: No playoffs
2011: SB win
2012: No playoffs
2013: No playoffs
2014: No playoffs
2015: No playoffs
2016: 1 & done
2017: No playoffs
2018: No playoffs
2019: No playoffs - Microsoft Surface tablet holder

Better than HOF'er Dan Marino who had an 8-10 playoff record and lost the only Super Bowl he played in.

Based off of stats and 2 Super Bowl wins which he was MVP of I can't see Eli not being a HOF'er and I'm not even a Giants fan.

 

[rude_dog]

Typical nigga response. Deion was probably top 3 in his position but as usual a salty hatin ass nigga comes in with the predictable bullshit. Sometimes I wish I was any other race but black because blacks are nothing but a bunch of crabs in a barrel, jealous ass hatin niggas. Every other race spams is about how great their niggas are. It’s ONLY BLACKS who routinely shit on our best.

find me one Filipino who will root against pacquaio. Find me one Mexican to root against Alvarez. Find me one puerto rican to have rooted against Felix Trinidad, find me any cac to root against any fucking cac! YOU CANT FIND ANYONE! Meanwhile, you bum ass niggas are pathetic. You routinely root against great blacks. You routinely undermine great blacks accomplishments because you are bums and losers! If a black athlete isn’t donating 20 million to project welfare black mother whores, you niggas will put them down. I can’t stand you niggas.

That's not really fair. Filipino's have no one else on the world stage. Pacquaio represents their whole country. Alvarez is the biggest star in Mexico and was despised there for a long time as a media creation. African Americans are such a large part of American and world pop culture that we can pick and choose who we like. Despite being less than 15% of the population, we're half the culture. The others don't have anyone else. Muhammad Ali is reverential. You will find few blacks who don't love Michael Jordan, outside of Detroiters like me. Look at the outpouring of grief over the death of Kobe. Prince is iconic, I can't remember anyone else but Elvis who has had the tributes in death.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Better than HOF'er Dan Marino who had an 8-10 playoff record and lost the only Super Bowl he played in.

Based off of stats and 2 Super Bowl wins which he was MVP of I can't see Eli not being a HOF'er and I'm not even a Giants fan.

Damn... good point about Marino.

 

[gdatruth]

seems like some hater shit
Deion's legacy etched on stone

 

[AllUniverse17]

Better than HOF'er Dan Marino who had an 8-10 playoff record and lost the only Super Bowl he played in.

Based off of stats and 2 Super Bowl wins which he was MVP of I can't see Eli not being a HOF'er and I'm not even a Giants fan.

Everyone agrees he will get in.

The question is why is Deion making this point.

I think he's looking at like, if he would have played against Eli, would he be scared of him. Cause thats what a hall of famer supposed to do, scare the opposition.

And i think the answer is no.

Eli didnt scare anyone.

He went off on those two super bowl runs. I cherish those runs as much as Giants fans do cause my hate for the Pats is unhealthy trust me. But he never kept it up long enough to become a great player. Instead he was an average to good player who played great those two years.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Everyone agrees he will get in.

The question is why is Deion making this point.

I think he's looking at like, if he would have played against Eli, would he be scared of him. Cause thats what a hall of famer supposed to do, scare the opposition.

And i think the answer is no.

Eli didnt scare anyone.

He went off on those two super bowl runs. I cherish those runs as much as Giants fans do cause my hate for the Pats is unhealthy trust me. But he never kept it up long enough to become a great player. Instead he was an average to good player who played great those two years.

No doubt but it's impossible to determine someone's eligibility for the HOF based off of someone's opinion of them and their greatness since all of those things are going to be subjective and a matter of opinion.

If Eli is judged by the same criteria as everyone else seems to have been (stats, longevity, Super Bowl's, etc.) I don't see there being a valid argument against him.

 

[crossovernegro]

I'm gonna give him slightly more credit than that. He stepped up for those two runs, especially the first one that took them through green bay in like -5 degree temperatures... and he was never a game manager for either of those SB wins. Outside of those two post season runs, I gotta give him some more credit for starting what, 200+ games straight, and that number could have easily been higher if he didn't get benched by Mcadoo. In that sport, I gotta give a QB that does that some honorable mention.

....but yeah I don't think his 15-16 year year in, year out performance makes him a HOF'er either. Too many years where his teams were just painful to watch (how many 0-5'ish fucking starts can you have?). The two superbowl ring thing may get him in there like 500 HR used to in baseball though. I mean, Phil simms has two also and isn't gonna get in, but at least he didn't play in that second SB he got a ring for.

This Eli Manning discussion is a joke.He never was nor should he ever be in HOF. He was a average QB who was carried by strong defense and running game to 2 SB wins made by him making 2 miracle throws in those games. IF Eli gets voted in then all these stats driven QBS will get in as well like Matt Ryan and Phillip Rivers.

 

[Spectrum]

Eli overview
2004: No playoffs
2005: 1 & done
2006: 1 & done
2007: SB win
2008: 1 & done
2009: No playoffs
2010: No playoffs
2011: SB win
2012: No playoffs
2013: No playoffs
2014: No playoffs
2015: No playoffs
2016: 1 & done
2017: No playoffs
2018: No playoffs
2019: No playoffs - Microsoft Surface tablet holder

Damn. That's the ultimate feast or famine resume.

 

[publicenemy]

Cornerbacks, weren't getting paid until Deion came and revolutionized and upped the value of the position shit........

 

[Mo-Better]

my fault thanks for the correction.. I know they got a Superbowl each decade since 80S was already pre-thinking for this decade lol

Eli suffered through 9 seasons under Coughlin. It's not his fault. Coughlin is the father of boring unimaginative teams. IMO Eli accomplished a lot all things considered. I believe Coughlin could ruined Brady.

For a QB with a 500 winning percentage I don't think HOF is gonna calling. His superbowl accomplishments is his only change.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

He’s talking about these cacs that’s about to arrive.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Damn. That's the ultimate feast or famine resume.

Not even that. Feast or famine would insinuate that the two were atleast nearly interchangeable in frequency or likelihood. Elis resume is filled with famine and then two great meals that he wasnt even lead chef on.

Man i didnt think Strahan was a HOF'er.. No need to even discuss my thoughts on this clown.

 

[Spectrum]

Not even that. Feast or famine would insinuate that the two were atleast nearly interchangeable in frequency or likelihood. Elis resume is filled with famine and then two great meals that he wasnt even lead chef on.

Man i didnt think Strahan was a HOF'er.. No need to even discuss my thoughts on this clown.

Man. That's such an outlier resume. All those seasons never making the playoffs... the rest of them one and done... and boom.. two super-bowls against GREAT teams.... but those two seasons the team caught fire right at the end and they had amazing pass rushes.

 

[Shaka54]

It's about Eli Manning...

Ooohhhhhh! I get the context now coz I was thinking about the backlog that they discuss every year about those who haven't made the cut after 4 or 5 considerations and shit.