Breaking: U.S. airstrike kills an Iranian General in major escalation towards war with Iran

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I have a confession. I'm ashamed to this day because of my actions, but here it goes: By the time Bush's second term came around, I hated that man and wanted him gone but I voted for him anyway because I didn't think it was a good idea to change the CIC in the middle of a war. I now know better and today, knowing what I know now, I would have voted differently. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who made that decision for that reason.

That said, I'm not sure this would work for Trump. Bush wasn't that long ago, and I'm sure people who voted like I did won't make that same mistake. If anything I think people would want him out to have someone actually competent to run the country during wartime. The impeachment hearings have brought out that he is running rogue foreign policy, and doing it poorly. He has gutted the state department, all the great minds have left. Most of the people who stood up to his foolishness have gone. He can't be trusted. Military recruitment centers are in poor and black areas for a reason. I'm not sure people want to send their family to die on Trump's word.

I'm also wondering if some of the former generals who have refused to speak out against a sitting president will change their minds and go against protocol to attempt to save the country. The administration lies constantly. Supposedly for the past 3 years he had to go to Putin and his intelligence sources because ours couldn't be trusted and believed, but suddenly they're the bees knees. His being in office when there is danger is an argument for getting rid of him. He's impulsive and incompetent and working outside our intelligence agencies. The DNC should be running ads to this effect non stop.


Damn you voted for Bush?? At least you are honest, I give you props for putting that on wax. Just wow, though :smh: Gore as President would have steered this country in a significantly different, positive direction. He is a hypocrite when it comes to climate change though, considering is huge ass mansion and energy use receipts :lol:
 
Damn you voted for Bush?? At least you are honest, I give you props for putting that on wax. Just wow, though :smh: Gore as President would have steered this country in a significantly different, positive direction. He is a hypocrite when it comes to climate change though, considering is huge ass mansion and energy use receipts :lol:

When you know better you do better. When I was younger I relied on the opinion of friends and family. I didn't grasp the importance of how politics affects us. My family, except for two brothers, are all dem or independent, but my sister came in contact with the Bush family occasionally and always spoke highly of them, so that colored my decision also. I can't change the past, but I know better than to take voting for granted.

I also naively believed politicians were honorable, but after watching those fools show their ass for hours at a time on cspan, I realize you have to pay attention year round. The pettiness still sometimes astounds me.
 
Geraldo, “We have killed the Queen Bee.” The man spent some significant time in Iran, and knows what’s coming down the pike! Hide and watch.
 
This dude is beyond crazy, if he get's reelected the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves.

If he goes to war in Iran I think it will hurt his re-election. A lot of republicans will stay home.

His whole platform was a outsider. Not establishment type that is in bed with the military industrial complex for endless wars for Israel.

Plus the stock market will crash or do a major correction. You can’t have trillion dollar tax cuts for the rich and then another 10 trillion dollar war. Something will bust!
 
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1. I’ve had a chance to check in with sources, including two US officials who had intelligence briefings after the strike on Suleimani. Here is what I’ve learned. According to them, the evidence suggesting there was to be an imminent attack on American targets is “razor thin”.
6:27 AM · Jan 4, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/1213421769777909761/retweets

2. In fact the evidence pointing to that came as three discrete facts: a) A pattern of travel showing Suleimani was in Syria, Lebanon & Iraq to meet with Shia proxies known to have an offensive position to the US. (As one source said that’s just “business as usual” for Suleimani)


3. More intriguing was b) information indicating Suleimani sought the Supreme Leader’s approval for an operation. He was told to come to Tehran for consultation and further guidance, suggesting the operation was a big deal - but again this could be anything.


4. And finally, a) and b) were read in the context of c) Iran’s increasingly bellicose position towards American interests in Iraq, including the attack that killed a U.S. contractor and the recent protest outside the American embassy.


5. But as one source put it a) + b) + c) is hardly evidence of an imminent attack on American interests that could kill hundreds, as the White House has since claimed. The official describes the reading of the intelligence as an illogical leap.


6. One official described the planning for the strike as chaotic. The official says that following the attack on an Iraqi base which killed an American contractor circa Dec. 27, Trump was presented a menu of options for how to retaliate. Killing Suleimani was the “far out option”


7. Trump chose a more moderate option which involved the Dec. 29 strikes on the positions of an Iranian-backed militia. Then came the protest at the gates of the US embassy in Baghdad:

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/12/29/world/middleeast/29reuters-iraq-security-usa.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

8. It was after the embassy protests that the president, according to one US official, chose the Suleimani option, but the problem at that point in time is that American intelligence did not know his precise whereabouts. They scrambled to locate him, says the official.


9. According to the official, the strike on Suleimani was pulled together so quickly that initially the US was not sure PMF leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis was in the convoy. He was also killed and is also viewed as an Iranian proxy:



10. Since the strike, Iran has convened its national security chiefs. Chatter intercepted by American intelligence indicates they’re considering a range of options. Cyberattacks, attacks on oil facilities and American personnel and diplomatic outposts have all been cited so far.


11. But among the “menu options” that I had not heard before were: (1) kidnapping and execution of American citizens. (This might explain why the State Department has ordered the evacuation of all US citizens in Iraq, not just government and embassy employees).
https://twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/1213430733827653632/photo/1

12. Another is attacks on American diplomatic and military outposts not just in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria, but as far afield as UAE and Bahrain. The official I spoke to was particularly concerned for American troops stationed in Iraq, some of whom are co-located with Shia militias



13. How does this impact the war against ISIS? I turned to
@Mikeknightsiraq
for insight. He’s studied Iraq since the 1990s. What he told me is that months before the strike that killed Suleimani, the tensions with Iran had already degraded America’s ability to fight ISIS in Iraq:

https://t.co/53Qh5pANhB?amp=1

14. In 2019, America has been denied airspace and access to operations in Iraq to go after ISIS at the behest of Iran-backed groups. The US has also been told to stop communicating with Sunni tribes. These are important setbacks that have already weakened the US’ posture in Iraq


15. “It’s all been downhill,”
@Mikeknightsiraq
told me, in terms of America’s access to the ISIS battlespace in recent months due to Iranian pressure on Iraqi officials. One upshot? US special operations forces have been on the offensive in Diyala, Nineveh and Kirkuk provinces



16. A likely outcome of the recent strike is that small, out-of-the-way outposts for special operations forces will be deemed too vulnerable and will be eliminated. Fighting ISIS is no longer the priority if the outer wall of the US embassy is being attacked.


17. Before I go back to the pool let me just say the obvious: No one’s trying to downplay Suleimani’s crimes. The question is why now? His whereabouts have been known before. His resume of killing-by-proxy is not a secret. Hard to decouple his killing from the impeachment saga.
 
First and foremost buddy, I prefaced my statement saying I never been in war or the military. I respect the military and its members, but what I don't respect is y'all always on that bullshit talking about I served and e'body is a pussy and I get the last word in bs like the rest of the world can't even voice an opinion. Glad you don't value my opinion. Keep it moving and don't comment if you truly truly don't. And thank you for your service motherfucker.

you mad bro?:hmm:
 
They havent blamed Obama yet ? whats Trump & these bgolers waiting on ?
arent y'all glad obama's agreement was scrapped for trump's action ? hurray !! #MAGA baby!!
im sure a few bgolers are rejoicing right now that he trashed that kenyan neega's deal with iran, and as FBA says what trump gonna do anyway? , its BOTH SIDES AFTERALL, and also HILLARY'S email
 
That’s wild. I wasn’t an independent during the Bush years. I turned one under Obama because I was mad at him not taken advantage of having both houses during his first 2 years in office to implement the changes that got him elected. However, never did I ever think to vote for Bush during his presidency. I was informed of all the bullshit his administration was doing to go to war in Iraq and a bunch of other things. You have a lot of explaining to do. Did you vote for Obama because he was black? Why didn’t you tote the party line. What was wrong with McCain? I have many more questions. I am sure the republican dingbat committee on this board will cheer at your confession, but I know I am pissed. So we have a Republican moderator running the board. I see. Smdh. Get ready because you are going to have to defend your position and not rollout the CIC speach you just gave. I know the Republican trolls will try to interject, but I am going to tune them out and listen to what you have to say for yourself.

Very disturbed,

Kirkout
Did you really vote for Bush in 2004? Don"t be too ashamed, I remember posting here in 2004 about folks voting Bush because the church was pushing him heavy due to the gay marriage shit being on the ballot in 2004.

The republicans hit the black churches hard in Ohio that election. :smh:
Lmao. I just read this again. So I've gone from being a dem sheep on the dem plantation to the enemy in 3.5 seconds. This is hilarious.
:puzzled:
interesting
Calm down Kirkout. Claiming Camille is a republican is one of the most ridiculous things I have seen posted on BGOL.

I voted for Bush in 2000. Mainly because I didn’t trust Gore after he abandoned Clinton over the blowjob.

Shows how wrong people are claiming Camille and I are dembots. Today’s republicans are the most dangerous type of people on the earth. We have been trying to warn everyone for years now.

@gene cisco are you still claiming Trump is not a warmonger? I would say he’s the worst warmonger we have ever seen sitting in the presidency.
 
I hope yall realize not if, but when america goes to war with iran this aint no regular libya or Afghanistan or Egypt or syria. When they got to war with iran Russia will get involved & it is a wrap. You will see how intense it will be
 
Calm down Kirkout. Claiming Camille is a republican is one of the most ridiculous things I have seen posted on BGOL.

I voted for Bush in 2000. Mainly because I didn’t trust Gore after he abandoned Clinton over the blowjob.

Shows how wrong people are claiming Camille and I are dembots. Today’s republicans are the most dangerous type of people on the earth. We have been trying to warn everyone for years now.

@gene cisco are you still claiming Trump is not a warmonger? I would say he’s the worst warmonger we have ever seen sitting in the presidency.
Wait. You say a guy who doesn't have any wars is worse than the guy you voted for that started 2 and has the label of being a war criminal? :confused: Don't try to cop pleas by saying 'today's republicans' when they been on the same shit. So that's why you so gung ho now? Got blood on your hands by voting for a war criminal. Now you like a stripper who found the holy ghost. :smh: It all makes sense now.

It never ever crossed my mind to vote for a republican. Never. Been loyal and earned my right to be disappointed. You'll have to vote until you're 1000 years old just to make up for voting for Bush. WTF. Were you high back then? Partying a lot?
 
People need to stop saying both parties are the same. You know who you are.

We know we can’t count on republicans waking up. Independents need to realize finally how dangerous republicans are to our future.
Yep and these motherfuckers want Trumps kids to take over after he's done. Completely bonkers half the country is truly insane :lol:
 
Wait. You say a guy who doesn't have any wars is worse than the guy you voted for that started 2 and has the label of being a war criminal? :confused: Don't try to cop pleas by saying 'today's republicans' when they been on the same shit. So that's why you so gung ho now? Got blood on your hands by voting for a war criminal. Now you like a stripper who found the holy ghost. :smh: It all makes sense now.

It never ever crossed my mind to vote for a republican. Never. Been loyal and earned my right to be disappointed. You'll have to vote until you're 1000 years old just to make up for voting for Bush. WTF. Were you high back then? Partying a lot?
I have to co-sign this. There is NO EXCUSE for voting for Bush for his second term. None. If you did, you're most likely an evil piece of shit.
 
Calm down Kirkout. Claiming Camille is a republican is one of the most ridiculous things I have seen posted on BGOL.

I voted for Bush in 2000. Mainly because I didn’t trust Gore after he abandoned Clinton over the blowjob.

Shows how wrong people are claiming Camille and I are dembots. Today’s republicans are the most dangerous type of people on the earth. We have been trying to warn everyone for years now.

@gene cisco are you still claiming Trump is not a warmonger? I would say he’s the worst warmonger we have ever seen sitting in the presidency.

:roflmao3:

he’s gone completely insane.

not surprised him and his buddies have all voted republican.

:smh:
 
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