#NeverHillary-- Is it ever smart to take a step backward to take two steps forward politically?

[BKF]

Very possible..

Although if it happens and it's late that could do more harm..

Not sure if Biden could get any excitment in a small amount of time...But those unwilling to vote for Hillary should be more willing to vote for Biden.

He should have never stepped aside

I just don't see Biden as building any kind of excitement (even if he had time to).
To me he would not be much more different than Gore or Kerry.

 

[BDR]

Very possible..

Although if it happens and it's late that could do more harm..

Not sure if Biden could get any excitment in a small amount of time...But those unwilling to vote for Hillary should be more willing to vote for Biden.

He should have never stepped aside

Maybe him stepping aside was the plan all along

 

[ballscout1]

Maybe him stepping aside was the plan all along

I'm sure it is...Both parties try that whose turn is it shit and appoint who they want.

Just like Hillary being chosen as Secretary of State was the payoff for the Clinton's machines support of Obama in the general in 2008.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

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Real talk???

Having Trump in office gets a lot of black people politically active. It turns the mind towards solutions. That's a good thing.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

Might it be better for Clinton to lose and the Democratic Party to realize that triangulation and Reagan-lite politics are not acceptable any more? If they manage to lose to Trump based on domestic policy, they will certainly see that they have to make major changes.

Joe Biden is out to proven this wrong...

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

The naivety is assuming that 4 years of Trump would lead to the country accepting a progressive instead of someone even more centrist that Hillary.

It's the hardest thing for people on the far left or right to accept, but the vast majority of the country doesn't agree with them. They always say, if you would just nominate a true conservative/liberal we would win in a landslide. Literally the tea party and the far left are saying the same exact shit.

As much as both those groups hate centrists, they one day will have to grow up and realize that the majority of people in this country want someone in the center. They don't want a hardcore conservative or progressive.

Thems just facts.

All 4 years of Trump would do is allow Republicans to get rid of the ACA, make sure the Supreme court is stacked with conservatives for the next 30 years, and allow them to go even further in shifting wealth to the top 1 percent.

8 years of Reagan didn't bring about this progressive revolution they keep talking about. 8 years of Bush didn't either. 4 years of Trump won't.

A centrist Dem would run in 4 years and win the White House. Or a far left Dem would lose and give the country 4 more years of Trump.

You were right that it was naivety to assume "that 4 years of Trump would lead to the country accepting a progressive."

It does seem, though, that the door is closed on the idea of someone "even more centrist that Hillary" for 2016. But Biden is close enough, if he does prevail.

Now that we've seen a Trump presidency in effect, I'm not so sure about comparing the reaction to Trump to previous Republican presidencies, though...

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

 

[xfactor]

OP is clearly mentally ill, suffering from dissociative identity disorder.

how many alters do you have, OP?

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

OP is clearly mentally ill, suffering from dissociative identity disorder.

how many alters do you have, OP?

There's a difference between an old defunct screen name and an alter ego. There has been literally zero alternating, dummy.

 

[xfactor]

There's a difference between an old defunct screen name and an alter ego. There has been literally zero alternating, dummy.

OP still uses @Yahweh but doesn’t alternate. OP is probably @kogalee_mohammed too