Best Desktop Computer

I heard people say this (the highlighted part) before and I’m just not sure how much merit that really has. I’ve done all that stuff fairly efficiently with minimum issues on windows desktops.

However, I’m no professional either, so I don’t know the levels that people can go to when it comes to photo/video editing, music production and DJing.

If Windows 10 wasn’t such a disaster, I say Macs are pointless machines for their ridiculous prices regardless of what your doing on the computer. But Windows has managed to create an operating system that is so shitty that they keep Macs more relevant that ever before.


You don't need that shit

I make anything and everything on PC
All you need is computing power and PC was always ahead of Mac on that

Shit my old PC is standard for Mac today
My new one is untouchable
64gb ddr3 ram
Latest i-7
8gb Nvidia
There's nothing I can't do lol
 
You don't need that shit

I make anything and everything on PC
All you need is computing power and PC was always ahead of Mac on that

Shit my old PC is standard for Mac today
My new one is untouchable
64gb ddr3 ram
Latest i-7
8gb Nvidia
There's nothing I can't do lol

Yeah. With that power nothing is really stopping you from anything.

I think the problem comes when computers are built to perform right above or below efficiency levels for any given operating systems.

And that’s what Apple does with their cpu/processor/ram. They know their OS doesn’t require extensive computing power since it’s unix based. So they can cut corners on their resources by giving their users lower performing specs at a high cost. The user won’t be able to tell much of a difference because their OS isn’t using unnecessary resources.

Windows on the other hand requires more resources since their OS uses so many processes in the background. That’s why PCs just under $600 tend to perform right above efficiency level for the OS until updates rolls out and they gradually perform inefficient. PCs over $800 are ideal for any windows computer.

However, Apple gives the specs of a $700 PC and charges over $1500. The biggest difference is that insane high resolution that require a higher graphics cards and even then they are bullshitting.

It would be hard to convince me that a $1100 PC can’t do the same things and perform as efficient (if not better) than a $2000 MacBook or iMac.
 
Yeah. With that power nothing is really stopping you from anything.

I think the problem comes when computers are built to perform right above or below efficiency levels for any given operating systems.

And that’s what Apple does with their cpu/processor/ram. They know their OS doesn’t require extensive computing power since it’s unix based. So they can cut corners on their resources by giving their users lower performing specs at a high cost. The user won’t be able to tell much of a difference because their OS isn’t using unnecessary resources.

Windows on the other hand requires more resources since their OS uses so many processes in the background. That’s why PCs just under $600 tend to perform right above efficiency level for the OS until updates rolls out and they gradually perform inefficient. PCs over $800 are ideal for any windows computer.

However, Apple gives the specs of a $700 PC and charges over $1500. The biggest difference is that insane high resolution that require a higher graphics cards and even then they are bullshitting.

It would be hard to convince me that a $1100 PC can’t do the same things and perform as efficient (if not better) than a $2000 MacBook or iMac.

Exactly

It can't

And with PC you can upgrade parts to basically have a new computer without buying one
They're always forward compatible
I can expand my memory to 128gb but we're years away from me needing that much lol

Shit right now just using the computer for normal shit I use 0% of processing and 2% of my memory if that and that's with 18 tabs open streaming something and daws open
 
Exactly

It can't

And with PC you can upgrade parts to basically have a new computer without buying one
They're always forward compatible
I can expand my memory to 128gb but we're years away from me needing that much lol

Shit right now just using the computer for normal shit I use 0% of processing and 2% of my memory if that and that's with 18 tabs open streaming something and daws open

Yeah, that’s beast on the computer power.

And you’re absolutely right about PC being upgradeable. Plus, they are easier to fix when something fails. I know a few folks with dead weight MacBooks because of a dead hard drive.

Bruh, I got a PC I built in 2007 still kicking ass. And every time some fails, I just replace the part. Lol.

My most recent PC i built (2015) is only upgradeable to 32 gigs of ram and I’m only using 8 gigs. I can rebuild that same rig for half the price now.
 
Yeah, that’s beast on the computer power.

And you’re absolutely right about PC being upgradeable. Plus, they are easier to fix when something fails. I know a few folks with dead weight MacBooks because of a dead hard drive.

Bruh, I got a PC I built in 2007 still kicking ass. And every time some fails, I just replace the part. Lol.

My most recent PC i built (2015) is only upgradeable to 32 gigs of ram and I’m only using 8 gigs. I can rebuild that same rig for half the price now.

Exactly
and shit is really easy to just do. You get the part plug and play
 
Yooooo....

https://www.pcworld.com/article/340...rce-gpus-and-core-i7-cpus-for-under-1000.html

$899

Specs:
  • Intel i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core/12-Thread Processor
  • 32GB DDR4 2400MHz Desktop Memory
  • 512GB Solid State Drive + 2TB Hard Drive
  • Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X Graphics Card
  • Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

$699

Overpowered DTW1 Gaming Desktop:
8th Gen Intel i7-8700 6-Core,
16GB DDR4,
256GB SSD, 2TB HDD,
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB, Type-C,
Win 10

I'm reading the reviews though and I keep hearing problems with the case, no air filters and the power management. :dunno:
 
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Aight last one...Somebody tell me why I shouldn't buy this computer? Besides it being refurbished?

2019 Dell 9010 Flagship High Performance Desktop Computer, Intel Core i7 Up to 3.6GHz, 16G Ram, Dual Hard Drive(240G SSD + 3TB HDD), Windows 10 Professional (Renewed)

Amazon product ASIN B07S76TXVY
 
Aight last one...Somebody tell me why I shouldn't buy this computer? Besides it being refurbished?

2019 Dell 9010 Flagship High Performance Desktop Computer, Intel Core i7 Up to 3.6GHz, 16G Ram, Dual Hard Drive(240G SSD + 3TB HDD), Windows 10 Professional (Renewed)

Amazon product ASIN B07S76TXVY
Dude, it's a Dell....nah, I'm not sure if Dell still sucks like they did back in the day..
 
Why is this shit so cheap? Is it the integrated graphics?

AMS HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0155t Datasheet
Operating system
Windows 10 Home 64

Processor
Intel® Core™ i7-9700 (3 GHz base frequency, up to 4.7 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 12 MB cache, 8 cores)
Graphics
Integrated: Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Memory
16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
Maximum memory
Upgradeable to 32 GB
Memory slots
2 DIMM
Storage
2 TB 7200 rpm SATA

Secondary storage
256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Total External Bays
One 9.5 mm occupied
Total Internal Bays
One 2.5" occupied; One 3.5" available
Optical drive
DVD-Writer
Memory card device
HP 3-in-1 Media Card Reader
Network interface
Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
Wireless technology
Realtek Wi-Fi 5 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 Combo
Power supply
180 W Gold efficiency power supply
External I/O Ports
Expansion slots

1 PCIe x16; 1 PCIe x1; 2 M.2
Energy efficiency
EPEAT® Bronze registered; ENERGY STAR® certified
Audio
5.1 surround sound
Video connector
1 HDMI
 
Why is this shit so cheap? Is it the integrated graphics?

AMS HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0155t Datasheet
Operating system
Windows 10 Home 64

Processor
Intel® Core™ i7-9700 (3 GHz base frequency, up to 4.7 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 12 MB cache, 8 cores)
Graphics
Integrated: Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Memory
16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
Maximum memory
Upgradeable to 32 GB
Memory slots
2 DIMM
Storage
2 TB 7200 rpm SATA

Secondary storage
256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Total External Bays
One 9.5 mm occupied
Total Internal Bays
One 2.5" occupied; One 3.5" available
Optical drive
DVD-Writer
Memory card device
HP 3-in-1 Media Card Reader
Network interface
Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
Wireless technology
Realtek Wi-Fi 5 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 Combo
Power supply
180 W Gold efficiency power supply
External I/O Ports
Expansion slots

1 PCIe x16; 1 PCIe x1; 2 M.2
Energy efficiency
EPEAT® Bronze registered; ENERGY STAR® certified
Audio
5.1 surround sound
Video connector
1 HDMI
You didn't put a price but I wouldn't rely on just the integrated graphics. You'd need a video card. Integrated can't do anything video/graphic intensive from what I've seen
 
You didn't put a price but I wouldn't rely on just the integrated graphics. You'd need a video card. Integrated can't do anything video/graphic intensive from what I've seen

Yeah sorry $799. I don't do much with gaming but I watch movies from time to time so i might skip this one.

Everything else looked solid.
 
Yeah sorry $799. I don't do much with gaming but I watch movies from time to time so i might skip this one.

Everything else looked solid.
Go with an AMD based system, at this point Intel isn't worth it to me anymore. Not after gaming performance and benchmarks I've seen.

Built a gaming desktop for my son last year, spent about $600 with all the individual parts with a bunch of rebates. I got everything from NewEgg, Frys and MicroCenter (best deals for motherboard/processor bundles).

Get an SSD hard drive. His PC is blazing fast.
If you don't know how to build a PC, can follow YouTube vids and learn. But there's tons of vids that will show you great combinations to put together for your price point, whatever it is. I've seen some very good self built PC's for $400-500.

Here's an example:






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Also check SlickDeals.net for parts and also when I am buying parts I also keep an eye on pricewatch.com just to know what's current at the moment.
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Why is this shit so cheap? Is it the integrated graphics?

AMS HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0155t Datasheet
Operating system
Windows 10 Home 64

Processor
Intel® Core™ i7-9700 (3 GHz base frequency, up to 4.7 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 12 MB cache, 8 cores)
Graphics
Integrated: Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Memory
16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
Maximum memory
Upgradeable to 32 GB
Memory slots
2 DIMM
Storage
2 TB 7200 rpm SATA

Secondary storage
256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD
Total External Bays
One 9.5 mm occupied
Total Internal Bays
One 2.5" occupied; One 3.5" available
Optical drive
DVD-Writer
Memory card device
HP 3-in-1 Media Card Reader
Network interface
Integrated 10/100/1000 GbE LAN
Wireless technology
Realtek Wi-Fi 5 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 Combo
Power supply
180 W Gold efficiency power supply
External I/O Ports
Expansion slots

1 PCIe x16; 1 PCIe x1; 2 M.2
Energy efficiency
EPEAT® Bronze registered; ENERGY STAR® certified
Audio
5.1 surround sound
Video connector
1 HDMI

garbage motherboard, garbage psu, 180w psu for an i7? ... lol
 
Dell Inspiron 5676 Gaming PC 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD+1TB HDD, AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core up to 4.10 GHz, Radeon RX580 4GB, VR Ready Desktop, RJ-45 Ethernet, Windows 10 Amazon product ASIN B07XKQKKQH

I like this one. I've been waiting for Black Friday/Cyber Monday but it doesn't look like the prices are going to move much.

It's not so much the money it's more of making sure I'm not overpaying for under performance.
 
Cuz, My desktop is on win 7 and now that it will no longer be supported what are my options?

If you’re trying to keep the convenience, then you may have no choice to go Windows 10.

I’m going to keep windows 7 as long as I can, but I know my next laptop is going to be 10.
 
If you’re trying to keep the convenience, then you may have no choice to go Windows 10.

I’m going to keep windows 7 as long as I can, but I know my next laptop is going to be 10.
Why keep windows 7? Its old, outdated, and not better performing.
 
Why keep windows 7? Its old, outdated, and not better performing.

It is old and out dated, however I have a 7th gen i7, and 16 gigs of RAM.

My laptop’s performance is great for the minimum stuff that I use it for, especially on windows 7, which use far less processes than 10 to run.

Plus, windows 10 isn’t really offering me anything that I need that requires me to upgrade the OS.
 
It is old and out dated, however I have a 7th gen i7, and 16 gigs of RAM.

My laptop’s performance is great for the minimum stuff that I use it for, especially on windows 7, which use far less processes than 10 to run.

Plus, windows 10 isn’t really offering me anything that I need that requires me to upgrade the OS.

With the specs you listed windows 10 will out perform windows 7.
 
Out perform in what areas?

That whole thing about windows 7 performing better than 10 is a old way of thinking. Windows 10 has surpassed windows 7 in every way especially since most apps and drivers are being made specifically for windows 10 so they will perform better.
 
Out perform in what areas?
1. faster access to applications/features
2. consistent security updates and builds vs the only 1 service pack on 7 which is no longer supported and has had major vulnerabilities since.
3. ability to sync all your info across all devices and continue on android and iphone
4. newer versions of office do not work on 7
5. driver updates no longer exist on 7
 
Out perform in what areas?

It will probably get you a little better battery life, multicore performance and more consistent base/boost clock speed.

7th gen processors were never officially supported, and truthfully Microsoft wanted to end support during 6th gen, but only relented since most OEMs had a big stockpile because of the various issues Intel had with getting Kabylake to market. Anyhow, 6th and especially 7th generation core processors made major changes to how Intel processors handled power management and boost frequencies. It was enough that Microsoft had to rewrite a lot of the affinity/multithreading queuing code for them to function optimally in 10, and why they pulled support for 7 when Kabylake came out.

You had to install a hack to get updates to install, and force usb drivers to load to get it to install properly. Just because it's working doesn't mean it's working optimally.
 
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