Why wasnt there a thread on last night's Democrat Debate?

I simply ask what do I as a straight Black American man get for voting Democrat?

Please answer me.
Thanks in advance.

When I told you I got my first business loan through the minority fast-track program you and your cronies clowned like it was insignificant and meant nothing. It meant everything to my family and extended family.

-sister and cousins all got their first jobs working my shops.
- was the youngest and FIRST African American leasee owner in Six Flags history.
- paid for multiple black employees first cars over the Summer.
- multiple black managers are now living well at the company started 25 years ago. (I've got a collection of thank you letters to prove it)
- paid off my home, helped me buy a second.
- put my wife through college, she (graduated debt free).
- paid my mom's medical bills while she was sick with cancer (may she rest in peace) I'm glad she didn't have to stress about bills during her sickness at least.
- my sister got sick, had to quit her job. The business paid her medical bills and provided her insurance through two major surgeries.

That same program was discontinued after Bush (a Republican) got into office. So when you say Democrat policies don't help black folks, speak for yourself (or better yet just ignore and dismiss my personal experience as nothing - you do that a lot).
 
When I told you I got my first business loan through the minority fast-track program you and your cronies clowned like it was insignificant and meant nothing. It meant everything to my family and extended family.

-sister and cousins all got their first jobs working my shops.
- was the youngest and FIRST African American leasee owner in Six Flags history.
- paid for multiple black employees first cars over the Summer.
- multiple black managers are now living well at the company started 25 years ago. (I've got a collection of thank you letters to prove it)
- paid off my home, helped me buy a second.
- put my wife through college, she (graduated debt free).
- paid my mom's medical bills while she was sick with cancer (may she rest in peace) I'm glad she didn't have to stress about bills during her sickness at least.
- my sister got sick, had to quit her job. The business paid her medical bills and provided her insurance through two major surgeries.

That same program was discontinued after Bush (a Republican) got into office. So when you say Democrat policies don't help black folks, speak for yourself (or better yet just ignore and dismiss my personal experience as nothing - you do that a lot).

To be fair, we do get to eat off the crumbs of the democrat table.

Maybe you just haven't taken advantage of the programs that could benefit you so think there are none? Just a thought.
 
white supremacy is a dangerous thing , nearly wiped the jews from europe,Inca , Aztec and Native American Indians from North and South America,armenians from turkey(kim kardashian is Armenian) blacks from Argentina so vote trump niggas them democrats take us for granted, so lets show how smart we is

You really think the WHITE lead democrats are not white supremacists?

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When I told you I got my first business loan through the minority fast-track program you and your cronies clowned like it was insignificant and meant nothing. It meant everything to my family and extended family.

-sister and cousins all got their first jobs working my shops.
- was the youngest and FIRST African American leasee owner in Six Flags history.
- paid for multiple black employees first cars over the Summer.
- multiple black managers are now living well at the company started 25 years ago. (I've got a collection of thank you letters to prove it)
- paid off my home, helped me buy a second.
- put my wife through college, she (graduated debt free).
- paid my mom's medical bills while she was sick with cancer (may she rest in peace) I'm glad she didn't have to stress about bills during her sickness at least.
- my sister got sick, had to quit her job. The business paid her medical bills and provided her insurance through two major surgeries.

That same program was discontinued after Bush (a Republican) got into office. So when you say Democrat policies don't help black folks, speak for yourself (or better yet just ignore and dismiss my personal experience as nothing - you do that a lot).
African-American? So you’re an immigrant.

Thanks for confirmation.
 
That’s a question you should ask staunch democrats because you’ve been voting blindly
and faithfully for them for over 50 years and haven’t gotten a damn thing for it in comparison to other groups that have done nothing but use and abuse the so-called black community.

Spineless posters in this thread like Dr Fiction would rather continue to vote democrat so they can share a restroom with LGBT club members and have mixed up kids instead of demanding economic, political, and social tangibles for votes like every other group.

Flat out pathetic :smh:

Cause the gay mafia stays on point and is vocal and generally suppor each other.

As black folks how many of us pull each other up without selling out to massa to do it?
 
Its issues like LGBTQ "rights" (what rights do they not have? They got the right to get married, which was the basis for their movement. Its mostly whites, who have everything anyway), "gun control" (when she (Kamala) of all people KNOWS that guns aren't the problem but rather the social conditions that make people use them are) and immigration at the forefront that make democrats look weak as fuck. They put all of the wrong shit at the head of the table. Bernie gets a lot of support because his issues don't change. Universal health care and everyone goes to school for free; same as it ever was.
Its less about him and more about what he stands for. Most dems could learn from this. Standing for identity politics is a weak subject. The gay rights shit is just a provocative click-bait twitterverse issue and gun control will never truly happen without martial law.
Why is it that big Pharma can charge $500 for medicine that costs $5 and bankrupt whole families? People choosing between their health and a living wage, the cost of living rising above wage increases and corporate tax loopholes that fuck our citizens are real life issues. It should never be good schools vs. new shoes with all of the wealth in this country.
Dems focus on all of the social buzzword shit like LGBTQRSTUV "rights" and fake wage gap shit while the REAL wage gap between the super-rich and the rest of us goes unspoken of. Fuck it. I'm done. This is why I stay away from politics; too much bullshit.
Just try to help someone else in life. Back in the day, all we had was each other and we were better for it. Black folks need to get back to that. Do that shit to the fullest and it won't matter who the President is.

Should we as black people be holding our votes hostage? Yes. That's another topic.
 
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Its issues like LGBTQ "rights" (what rights do they not have? They got the right to get married, which was the basis for their movement. Its mostly whites, who have everything anyway), "gun control" (when she (Kamala) of all people KNOWS that guns aren't the problem but rather the social conditions that make people use them are) and immigration at the forefront that make democrats look weak as fuck. They put all of the wrong shit at the head of the table. Bernie gets a lot of support because his issues don't change. Universal health care and everyone goes to school for free; same as it ever was.
Its less about him and more about what he stands for. Most dems could learn from this. Standing for identity politics is a weak subject. The gay rights shit is just a provocative click-bait twitterverse issue and gun control will never truly happen without martial law.
Why is it that big Pharma can charge $500 for medicine that costs $5 and bankrupt whole families? People choosing between their health and a living wage, the cost of living rising above wage increases and corporate tax loopholes that fuck our citizens are real life issues. It should never be good schools vs. new shoes with all of the wealth in this country.
Dems focus on all of the social buzzword shit like LGBTQRSTUV "rights" and fake wage gap shit while the REAL wage gap between the super-rich and the rest of us goes unspoken of. Fuck it. I'm done. This is why I stay away from politics; too much bullshit.
Just try to help someone else in life. Back in the day, all we had was each other and we were better for it. Black folks need to get back to that.

Should we as black people be holding our votes hostage? Yes. That's another topic.

Interesting. I don't necessarily disagree tho I probably view this more favorably than you, but "identity politics" is often used as code for things that affect black people such as police reform, reparations, environmental racism, racism in general. The issue I had with Bernie is that he believed getting everyone a living wage and good economics would remove all other issues when blacks are the last hired, first fired, have a system targeting us for the school to prison pipeline, and various other things that affect how well we do.
 
Interesting. I don't necessarily disagree tho I probably view this more favorably than you, but "identity politics" is often used as code for things that affect black people such as police reform, reparations, environmental racism, racism in general. The issue I had with Bernie is that he believed getting everyone a living wage and good economics would remove all other issues when blacks are the last hired, first fired, have a system targeting us for the school to prison pipeline, and various other things that affect how well we do.
Free schooling eliminates some of that. There is no one solution to a myriad of systematic, deeply-rooted problems created to purposefully keep us down but giving access to knowledge and putting some money in our pockets helps even the playing field.
Identity politics tends to push all of the wrong things to the forefront, which is why I can't support it.
We as a community need to do what the Arabs did with their modern day slaves: they had them build Dubai and then kicked them out.
We need to push for resources by holding our votes hostage and them once we get shit, kick everybody else out of our culture. :yes:
 
Free schooling eliminates some of that. There is no one solution to a myriad of systematic, deeply-rooted problems created to purposefully keep us down but giving access to knowledge and putting some money in our pockets helps even the playing field.
Identity politics tends to push all of the wrong things to the forefront, which is why I can't support it.
We as a community need to do what the Arabs did with their modern day slaves: they had them build Dubai and then kicked them out.
We need to push for resources by holding our votes hostage and them once we get shit, kick everybody else out of our culture. :yes:

Voting is currency. I don't believe sitting out will get us ahead. Sitting out is interpreted as disinterest. Participating and voting for the other guy, or strategic 3rd party voting where everyone writes in the same name/phrase works, but they already see a certain percentage of us as nonparticipants, so that just reinforces that.

I state this more fully here:
 
So is Steve Nash and Charlize Theron.

At least you own it though.

Only sellouts and people indoctrinated by the white power structure say they are from an entire continent :lol: :smh:

That CIA asset Jesse Jackson sure did a number on us. Got the so-called black community calling themselves members of a continent they’ve never been to or have little ties to AND set up MLK Jr. to get clapped up. :smh:

I'm african American fucker. Yeah time to put you on ignore.
 
And that’s great. I can respect any non-white person making an economic impact. But you have to understand the political and social ramifications and you refuse to do so and that is my issue.

I'm proud as hell of taking care of my family. Providing a place for young artists to work and fighting off racist white folks daily who don't want me in that spot. Hate if y'all want to
 
Voting is currency. I don't believe sitting out will get us ahead. Sitting out is interpreted as disinterest. Participating and voting for the other guy, or strategic 3rd party voting where everyone writes in the same name/phrase works, but they already see a certain percentage of us as nonparticipants, so that just reinforces that.

I state this more fully here:
I didn't say sit it out; I meant make demands. EVERYONE else does. Everyone. Why should we not be acquiesced as well?
While I agree that voting is currency, I don't believe it will get us where we need to be. Restructuring our sense of community will. Then, you worry less about who is in office.
 
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What do you mean by "hold our votes hostage" ? I took that to mean sitting out.
Make our collective support come with conditions like everyone else does. Right now, the "currency" you speak of is worthless because we freely give our support to one party.
Politics is bullshit. Its a two party system. Voting is for issues.
I'm sorry. I should have been clearer. I don't believe in our political structure, therefore I place little value in it.
My suggestions are for those that believe that this pathway will yield some results.
Pooling together your community's resources works. Look at the Jews, Asians, etc.. It works.
The oval office is bought and paid for by globalists. It doesn't matter and no one person can get us what we need. It has to start from within. Until we as a community realize this and stop looking for a savior, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes of the past.
 
From politicians, Gene. :hmm: Legislation. :hmm:

You just want to bitch. Everybody else is getting catered to, you say, and you feel like a jumpoff. But you can't provide one example of all this supposed "specific" catering

He still didn’t.

It’s the reason why I don’t engage with on this shit here anymore. Every time you ask for specific Hispanic or gay only laws, you get crickets.

It’s a waste of time.

Or they’ll bring up DACA and marriage equality. And when you point out Daca applies to all immigrants, not just hispanics and marriage equality doesn’t give gay people any rights we don’t already have, they just go back to repeating the same shit about “everybody gets specific shit except us”
 
Make our collective support come with conditions like everyone else does. Right now, the "currency" you speak of is worthless because we freely give our support to one party.
Politics is bullshit. Its a two party system. Voting is for issues.
I'm sorry. I should have been clearer. I don't believe in our political structure, therefore I place little value in it.
My suggestions are for those that believe that this pathway will yield some results.
Pooling together your community's resources works. Look at the Jews, Asians, etc.. It works.
The oval office is bought and paid for by globalists. It doesn't matter and no one person can get us what we need. It has to start from within. Until we as a community realize this and stop looking for a savior, we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes of the past.


What specific's have Whites, Asians, Hispanics received? What specific demands, apart from reparations, do you think black folks should be making? In what ways have the GOP shown they would be more willing to do what you reply with over dems? I'm asking honestly. Saying we should make demands is too vague. We can't come up with a plan unless we have specifics.

I'd like to see us pool resources, but I think we are too fractured at this point in time. Black folks have bought into the same propaganda about ourselves, so we don't trust each other or have a high opinion of other blacks in general. Pooling resources doesn't require politicians, that requires leaders within our own community, so I'm more interested in the demands we should make of them.
 
What specific's have Whites, Asians, Hispanics received? What specific demands, apart from reparations, do you think black folks should be making? In what ways have the GOP shown they would be more willing to do what you reply with over dems? I'm asking honestly. Saying we should make demands is too vague. We can't come up with a plan unless we have specifics.

I'd like to see us pool resources, but I think we are too fractured at this point in time. Black folks have bought into the same propaganda about ourselves, so we don't trust each other or have a high opinion of other blacks in general. Pooling resources doesn't require politicians, that requires leaders within our own community, so I'm more interested in the demands we should make of them.

Here a secret. We Black people have NO friends. Left or Right. It’s all the same white supremacy.

We have been voting for democrats for 60 years Plus and don’t have shit to show for it.

It time we use voting as a business transaction!

Who ever is going to hand over tangibles gets the vote.

Reparations are owned to the black community I would also prefer we also get small 2% business loans.

This whole hustle of voting for the less of 2 evils is over.
 
Here a secret. We Black people have NO friends. Left or Right. It’s all the same white supremacy.

We have been voting for democrats for 60 years Plus and don’t have shit to show for it.

It time we use voting as a business transaction!

Who ever is going to hand over tangibles gets the vote.

Reparations are owned to the black community I would also prefer we also get small 2% business loans.

This whole hustle of voting for the less of 2 evils is over.

So have you attended town halls, called or written your representative to bring your desires to their attention? Have you donated money? Do they know what you want or what it takes to get your vote? Or are you expecting them to read minds? All these other groups getting "tangibles" are lobbying day and night. The fact is, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and I don't see any black groups targeting specific reps with an agenda, or at least it hasn't been apparent to me. When I last searched I couldn't find one black Super Pac or Pac devoted to black issues I could throw my support behind. The closest we had was Color of Change and BLM and many dismissed BLM because gay folk were involved.

"Tangibles" is a goal. What's the plan to get them? Besides sitting out, hoping someone notices.
 
we all gonna vote democratic ,why debate the debate, it aint like you gonna vote trump. its white power vs diversity simple as that. why would a nonwhite person or jewish/ asian / latino vote trump , his followers want to get rid of us all , we lucky the house turned or you might need your passport and a visa to ghana or somewhere, by the way did you no that Europe is nearly jew free , that white power hate thing is real


Pretty much. The goal is Trump out January 2021, and in bracelets shortly thereafter. I'm holding my nose and voting for the Dem representative, just like I voted for Hillary solely because she was better than the fucktard we have now. So basically they can decide amongst themselves who's turn its gonna be, and I'll see you at the polls. Nothing else to the shit.
 
Trump is still vulnerable on immigration and he knows it. That's the one thing that his base will not forgive him on.
Dems have plenty of room to try and attack Trump on immigration but they can't see it.
 
Dems are the ones who are on the side of anti discrimination laws. Not just the passing of them, but the enforcement of them. It's dems who tried to hold local law enforcement accountable, Trump and Sessions rolled all that back. It's more complicated at the local level, but dems aren't perfect and we have a bunch of racists in our party also. They are, however, more representative of the makeup of our country. They have black folks in leadership and elected positions. They put black judges on the bench. We need people making decisions who aren't afraid of us which means other black folks. The GOP is mostly white men making laws based on stereotypes they hold a bout black folks and other minorities.
trickle down politics. they are taking care of these other groups rights first and if we get the residual effects cool right.
somethings better than nothing eh
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what difference does a Black judge make when they are Democrat first and not Black first
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there are literal "Black run" cities that have judges doing the bidding of the cac overseer class.

Black folks need healthcare more than anyone. We go longer without a diagnosis so have less chance of recovery due to progression before problems are detected. Dems are for health-care. Dems are for a living wage so you can spend time with your kids and not work 2+ jobs. Affordable college. Early childhood education. Safety nets so people don't become desperate and turn into criminals, go homeless or starve. Labeling GMO's. Clean water. Clean Air. Antifracking. Job training. Infrastructure like high speed rail. Holding corporations accountable so they dont rip off consumers and banks so they can't crash our economy. Trump blocked the law going into effect that would have made financial advisors work in their clients best interest, so now people wanting retirement and investment advice and be fleeced to the benefit of other clients. Trump has argued the financing of HBCU's is unconstitutional. He blocked the overtime law that would have meant more money for black folks.
We have shitty healthcare because we are the poorest people in the richest country. I dont remember them clueless folks at the debate raising their hands collectively for something that would benefit my people collectively.
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Funny how they can be for all of these social programs without a doubt, but for something that is owed to my people its "its too divisive"
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And what difference does a clean environment when my people already suffer from environmental racism as it is? We been had shit like Flint MI, Hook worms in AL, brothers living in former toxic waste dumps.

If you want something tied up in a bow with a tag that says "To: Black men, From: Democrats" you may not find it, but how are any of the dem values hurting you? The GOP wants to limit our rights and our power, why wouldn't you want to keep them out of office? How does letting them maintain power benefit you? They only argument I understand is that the GOP are anti-immigrant so it might mean more jobs for black folks, but they aren't anti-immigrant because they want to benefit us, they just want to keep the country majority white, which means getting rid of them before we become their primary focus.
Slavery specially hurt Black americans
Jim Crow specially hurts Black americans
Mass incarceration hurt Black americans specially
so I want something thats gon specially fix a problem that got my people where they are.
The Dems are pushing shit that is way left. I dont want trannys in the bathroom with my baby girl. I dont want one of them niggas slamming my daughter on a gym mat. They dont care about "whats right" in regards to illegals. they playing the long game as the latinx community will be the majority population in the near future, and they hope to capture them like they have captured Black people votes for the last 50 years.

Even denying climate change endangers us. Storms are getting more powerful, usually black folks are in the areas hit the worse. Dems want to enforce building codes and prepare. The GOP doesn't and Trump has the deficit so high the last few storms they denied valid claims because the money is scarce. All he wants money for is building a wall and caging folks to make his white racist base happy. Not all of the GOP is racist, but racism isn't a deal breaker for them, especially at the expense of the SCOTUS and outlawing abortion, hence the embrace of Trump.
Guess all these cacs about to live the life that my people been living then
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I dont give a singular fuck about an illegal immigrant. They are competition to my people who are mostly on a level where an illegal can come in and negatively effect us as it is in jobs and housing.

Here's a whole thread of stuff Trump has tried to undo. Does none of this effect you or your family?




My apologies for any typos, I'll spellcheck tomorrow. I'm tired.
i've posted in that thread before.
Fox vs. the Wolf shit for real.
Both party's dont give a damn about us.
it is our hope that by leveraging our votes, that the Dems would not see us as a "captured electorate".
We got the blame in 2016 for "only" voting 91% (or whatever) for Hilly. By all accounts this is one the biggest open secrets in politics that Black people are tired of the benign neglect and are in turn "waking up" and asking for tangibles. The latinx vote voted 40% for Drumpf and they getting open blow jobs lol.
Very telling that instead of listening to our concerns, the Dems are doubling down on this and are shouting 'what they not gon do specifically for us' (shout out to Kamala and Bernie).

Ask me if I'm scared of another 4 years of Trump? Hell no I'm not. I'm only scared for my people who dont see politics as an exchange and not a duty. We so poor as a people (sans BGOL millionaires) that literally all we got is our vote. We make something like 10c for every $1 a white family makes. Unless we get something passed specifailly for us we'll all be back in slavery, economically speaking that is.

Go to BGOLs ADOS 101 thread. Its a WEALTH of information. Our movement is backed by scholars, economist, lawyers, and people who genuinely care about Black people. We are rooted in data, facts, and history.


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