Revolt Summit | T.I. Vs Candice Owens

TI is cool but aligning himself with a con artist like Jay Morrison hurts his credibility.

It is also funny to see posters going back and forth with others about not knowing history when chattel slavery was started in this country because an African slaveowner sued to make his indentured servant a slave for life and the court system ruled in his favor.

Most of the spokespeople for the black community are historically based in slavery. Indigenous and Moorish advocates are not popularised.

This narrative reinforces white supremacy. The spokespeople beg the whites for solutions through inclusion.
 
Even Russia freed it's slaves (1863) before the USA (1865). I just love it how the definition of things are changing.
That's why the statement was AMONG the first. And I was waiting on y'all to start naming OTHER. European countries cuz ya can't make one African one.but glad you pointed out Russians had slaves, since Black people here think we were the only ones. Ask who the descendants of slaves are in Russia today. They moved on
 
Most of the spokespeople for the black community are historically based in slavery. Indigenous and Moorish advocates are not popularised.

This narrative reinforces white supremacy. The spokespeople beg the whites for solutions through inclusion.
That would probably be because the mood story is bullshit. The Moors were Arabs, not black Africans. That's why none of y'all can me.a single one, even though there are plenty of them to name and they have Arabic names and are from Arabic regions. Also they ran over West Africa at the same time they ran over southern Europe but Black people who are ashamed of their own history think to have to latch on to someone elses. Another reason you can clearly see none of these back to Africa types have no clue about real African history.
 
TI and Killee Mike just overtalked everybody the whole time with their bullshit. Mike more than TI.
Killer Mike made the most sense out of anyone on that stage.
He spoke of executable actions rather than just pontificating on ideas.
He lived up to his name. He killed the mic.
Now if we would all just do that shit, we would see results because that is what everyone who gets results does:
10 point list for every politician of what they need to be doing to garner support from the black community. If we showed unity on something like that, we could flex power.
 
That would probably be because the mood story is bullshit. The Moors were Arabs, not black Africans. That's why none of y'all can me.a single one, even though there are plenty of them to name and they have Arabic names and are from Arabic regions. Also they ran over West Africa at the same time they ran over southern Europe but Black people who are ashamed of their own history think to have to latch on to someone elses. Another reason you can clearly see none of these back to Africa types have no clue about real African history.

You've given me something to further research

Thanks
 
You've given me something to further research

Thanks
You can start by searching for images of Moors in Spain.
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https://historum.com/threads/the-moors-who-ruled-of-europe.66265/

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Black Arabs

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Just think of how dark the Native Americans were through the late 1800s compared to now. Polynesians were far darker then with a more coarse or coily hair texture than today.

The same shit occurred on the Arabian Peninsula.
 
That would probably be because the mood story is bullshit. The Moors were Arabs, not black Africans. That's why none of y'all can me.a single one, even though there are plenty of them to name and they have Arabic names and are from Arabic regions. Also they ran over West Africa at the same time they ran over southern Europe but Black people who are ashamed of their own history think to have to latch on to someone elses. .
:confused:
 
You can start by searching for images of Moors in Spain.
moors1.jpg


https://historum.com/threads/the-moors-who-ruled-of-europe.66265/

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6872bcd24e70d334122ec3fc10356ae4.jpg




Black Arabs

Rashaida_1.jpg


0a905b11b5fb794490d591e01e324d1d.jpg


Just think of how dark the Native Americans were through the late 1800s compared to now. Polynesians were far darker then with a more coarse or coily hair texture than today.

The same shit occurred on the Arabian Peninsula.

I get it

I don't trust history from "oppressors"

It's actually deeper than this

Most of what we have been taught is not completely accurate
 
Born and bred ADOS coon right there. She’s on the forefront with the enemy, but it’s Black immigrants that’s fucking y’all over, huh? Plenty more like her, native soil like a muthafucka, but I aint said shit.
 
I see the card carrying coon/faggot or cac is in this thread posting his typical bullshit as usual.
 
whether you subscribe to Candace ideology or not.

she is lowering her standards by trying to have a discussion with this assembled panel.


watching this was embarrassing.


rappers are dunce.
 
whether you subscribe to Candace ideology or not.

she is lowering her standards by trying to have a discussion with this assembled panel.


watching this was an embarrassing.


rappers are dunce.
The problem is that it's a panel of entertainers and not scholars and regular political activists, etc. It fucks me up that the go to people are the Clergy, 'Killer' Mike (who I will give an exception to), TI, and fuckin' Cardi B for serious policy conversations. Throw away the trick bags.
 


Try again fam. She says black Americans are stuck on the Democratic plantation unlike Caribbean Americans who werent enslaved here. Thats her Republican party pitch to black immigrants.


You can’t undo her lineage. She talking out her ass about shit she don’t know about. She wasn’t raised by her biological, but by her ADOS grandparents. Cooning is cooning, ADOS or not, but you can’t ignore one part of her heritage because it’s convenient.
 
You can’t undo her lineage. She talking out her ass about shit she don’t know about. She wasn’t raised by her biological, but by her ADOS grandparents. Cooning is cooning, ADOS or not, but you can’t ignore one part of her heritage because it’s convenient.

You said she was ADOS, she said she was "St Thomas proud" and promotes non ADOS supremacy regularly. If she was raised by ADOS and had ADOS values she would be promoting that. Instead she promotes a black immigrant narrative of superiority. You made no mention of her Caribbean background in your initial post. Do you agree with her assessment that Caribbean blacks are superior to Black Americans?
 
The problem is that it's a panel of entertainers and not scholars and regular political activists, etc. It fucks me up that the go to people are the Clergy, 'Killer' Mike (who I will give an exception to), TI, and fuckin' Cardi B for serious policy conversations. Throw away the trick bags.
There was nothing positive that came out of that mess.

first he moderator was horrible,didnt control the room/panel and was to biased,didnt do his job which is to moderate.
killer mike talk to damn much and was redundant,talked about which master to serve etc...yet a huge bernie supporter.
TI is just out of touch,simple,and was just looking for brownie points from the audience.(basically was trying to entertain)
talking about ppl with ar-15,but he himself was caught with numerous guns etc....i can go on.
every time puffy was shown,he acted like vince mcmahon was enjoying and hoping for a fight,regardless of the seriousness of the conversation.

i can go on,there was so many things i can talk about this here,overall the community need more intellectuals discussing this matters regardless of which side of the ledger you support.


black folks put way to much value in entertainment.
we dont have to be entertained all the damn time man,there are time we need to be serious.
 
You ever notice how the over the top balck for Republicans/Trump always use slavery terms and the "inner city". TI had her jammed up and the first thing she goes to is slavery.
 
You said she was ADOS, she said she was "St Thomas proud" and promotes non ADOS supremacy regularly. If she was raised by ADOS and had ADOS values she would be promoting that. Instead she promotes a black immigrant narrative of superiority. You made no mention of her Caribbean background in your initial post. Do you agree with her assessment that Caribbean blacks are superior to Black Americans?
Where did I say I agreed with her on anything? My exact words were “cooning is cooning”. She’s using her Caribbean heritage to justify her cooning, but she WASN’T raised by her Carribean side so explain that? Whether she’s down for ADOS or not she’s a coon. My point is coons come from within ADOS. Ben Carson, Omarosa, Kanye, and a lot more.
 
Where did I say I agreed with her on anything? My exact words were “cooning is cooning”. She’s using her Caribbean heritage to justify her cooning, but she WASN’T raised by her Carribean side so explain that? Whether she’s down for ADOS or not she’s a coon. My point is coons come from within ADOS. Ben Carson, Omarosa, Kanye, and a lot more.

Black Americans are often criticized for over labeling people as coons. No one in the diaspora calls out and addresses cooning including our own more than us. PERIOD. No other group of blacks in the US has done more to combat WS in the US than ADOS. Period. The problem is, folks dont want us to acknowledge black immigrant coonery. If they would do it to their own, we wouldnt have to. Your initial post made it seem like she was ADOS and is given a pass for cooning because she wasnt a black immigrant. When the reality is she is a 2nd gen immigrant used to undermine black Americans and ADOS been calling her out since last year for her BS. Candace represents the small but growing number of black Trump supporters in the tri state (his homebase) that are OVERWHELMINGLY non ADOS.
 
You can start by searching for images of Moors in Spain.
moors1.jpg


https://historum.com/threads/the-moors-who-ruled-of-europe.66265/

hqdefault.jpg




6872bcd24e70d334122ec3fc10356ae4.jpg




Black Arabs

Rashaida_1.jpg


0a905b11b5fb794490d591e01e324d1d.jpg


Just think of how dark the Native Americans were through the late 1800s compared to now. Polynesians were far darker then with a more coarse or coily hair texture than today.

The same shit occurred on the Arabian Peninsula.

Lol portraits. And you have to ignore pictures of the names of actual Moors who amhave actual portraits. Name one Moor who was a general or at least a decent rank in any army.
 


Lmao this is funny as hell when Rosenbrrg can tell us a Black woman can't sit at the Black table. These fools sound exactly like BGOL
 
Black Americans are often criticized for over labeling people as coons. No one in the diaspora calls out and addresses cooning including our own more than us. PERIOD. No other group of blacks in the US has done more to combat WS in the US than ADOS. Period. The problem is, folks dont want us to acknowledge black immigrant coonery. If they would do it to their own, we wouldnt have to. Your initial post made it seem like she was ADOS and is given a pass for cooning because she wasnt a black immigrant. When the reality is she is a 2nd gen immigrant used to undermine black Americans and ADOS been calling her out since last year for her BS. Candace represents the small but growing number of black Trump supporters in the tri state (his homebase) that are OVERWHELMINGLY non ADOS.
That’s straw man tactics at its best. You build up the enemy in ADOS to be bigger than the real enemy, WS. So the majority of ADOS’s issues today come from Black immigrants? That’s the real problem? That’s what’s preventing group economics within ADOS? That who is keeping whatever benefits WS has thrown out there from ADOS? All that is now on Black immigrants? It iain’t the Arabs, Asians, Indians or whoever that can set-up shop in a Black neighborhood and thrive? All those groups pale in comparison to Black immigrants taking advantage of benefits that somehow ADOS can’t get access to? ;smh:
 
That’s straw man tactics at its best. You build up the enemy in ADOS to be bigger than the real enemy, WS. So the majority of ADOS’s issues today come from Black immigrants? That’s the real problem? That’s what’s preventing group economics within ADOS? That who is keeping whatever benefits WS has thrown out there from ADOS? All that is now on Black immigrants? It iain’t the Arabs, Asians, Indians or whoever that can set-up shop in a Black neighborhood and thrive? All those groups pale in comparison to Black immigrants taking advantage of benefits that somehow ADOS can’t get access to? ;smh:

Black immigrants are just 1 issue that ADOS addresses. And yes like ALL immigrants they are often used to undermine black Americans but we always point to WS (Democratic Party, etc) as to who they work for. The reality is folks like yourself like to pretend black immigrants cant be coons under any circumstances and never call them out as such. If you did, ADOS wouldnt have to. And the whole "other groups exploit yall why yall single us out when we try to do it?" schtick is problematic. ADOS dont take shit off no one and addresses everyone.
 


Lmao this is funny as hell when Rosenbrrg can tell us a Black woman can't sit at the Black table. These fools sound exactly like BGOL


And whats hilarious is that Killer Mike has been sounding more and more conservative in recent appearances (telling people to read Thomas Sowell and Walter E. Williams :eek2:).

Both Sowell and Williams are long time conservatives who support Trump. Will Rosenburg still "allow" Killer Mike a seat at our table?

Will Killer Mike be included on the BGOL coon extermination list?
 
What? ADOS aint a fucking thing. Stop using that shit for y'all Black Americans.
Caribbeans were ADOS too. Stfu. Stop trying to change history and be something special.
Just say BLACK AMERICANS

Candace Owens isnt ADOS, she's Caribbean American and promotes their superiority over Black Americans.
 
What? ADOS aint a fucking thing. Stop using that shit for y'all Black Americans.
Caribbeans were ADOS too. Stfu. Stop trying to change history and be something special.
Just say BLACK AMERICANS

"Your name is Toby!"

Non ADOS supremacy in its raw form. Dictating how we should view ourselves, marginalizing our history as not unique, scolding our distinction while not doing the same for "Caribbeans". You hit all the anti ADOS talking points.
 
Shut up please. Black Americans are not the only ADOS so you dont own that shit. Fuck outta here. Point blank period.

"Your name is Toby!"

Non ADOS supremacy in its raw form. Dictating how we should view ourselves, marginalizing our history as not unique, scolding our distinction while not doing the same for "Caribbeans". You hit all the anti ADOS talking points.
 
That's why the statement was AMONG the first. And I was waiting on y'all to start naming OTHER. European countries cuz ya can't make one African one.but glad you pointed out Russians had slaves, since Black people here think we were the only ones. Ask who the descendants of slaves are in Russia today. They moved on

Serfdom, was found throughout Europe, since before Roman times and amounts to enslavement. In Britain, serfdom ended by the 1400s, and is why terms like "Lord" are still found in the English language: like landlord and tenancy. Even political boundaries of voting districts in Britain now, can be traced back to what the elite had and what their subjects had.

As the Roman Catholic Church lost its control during the early modern period (1300 to 1600) and the Rennaisance and the Reformation gained strength, serfdom waned in Western Europe. Serfdom survived in Europe into the modern era and finally ended in 1863 when the last of Russia's serfs were "freed" by the Czar. And the Russian Serfs didn't move on: they were key to the Russian Revolution.

AS to how early chattel slavery ending and where, parts of the United States had ended slavery within 20 years of the revolution: i.e. New England. But that does not mean "the US was among the first to end slavery" - Candace Owens is doing a sleight of hand to do her duty to Ol' Massa on that one.

Spanish Speaking South America ended slavery during their wars for independence. Of course, the effect of the Haitian Revolution is immeasurable. The fact is - if you want to accept it or not - Linclon's Emancipation Proclamation of 1863 and the defact0 status until Juneteenth, 1865 means that in the Western Hemisphere, the United States was next to last to end Slavery, with Brazil being the last: 1883.
 
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