September 11
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So, is this the day that we all pretend that we're ALL Americans and that ALL cops are heroes?
Dont forget to add those firemen!! Shit were like 20hrs away from nyc and our firemen were riding around town as if they were hero's and were at the towers!!
I think it's time for this country to get over this event,it happened a long time ago.
She Fled the 68th Floor. She’s Finally Dealing With 9/11 Trauma.
She had a foreclosure and two drunken-driving convictions before she was diagnosed with PTSD.
Kayla Bergeron can still describe that morning in matter-of-fact detail: She was dutifully working at her desk on the 68th floor when the building lurched. Someone ran in and said that a plane had hit — a small plane, she assumed. She realized it must not have been just a Cessna.
And then how she began a harrowing descent in a stairwell that was dark and wet because pipes had burst as the twin towers collapsed.
She can also describe her life since, including the loss of a new job, the foreclosure of her condominium, the two convictions for drunken driving and, just last year, the diagnosis from a court-ordered alcohol treatment program: post-traumatic stress disorder stemming from Sept. 11, 2001.
“PTSD never occurred to me,” said Ms. Bergeron, who was a high-ranking official at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey in 2001 and whose office was in the north tower. “We weren’t first responders. We weren’t cops or firefighters whose job was to go into the building. People told us, ‘Be happy to be alive.’ We minimized ourselves afterward, and it all built up over the years.”
In the 18 years since the terror attacks, the police officers and firefighters who rushed into the flaming towers have been honored with a memorial at ground zero.
On Wednesday, the names of those who died, read every Sept. 11 at a ceremony there, will be read once again, even as the number of people who have reported being sickened by their work on the so-called pile continues to rise. Congress, after a fight last summer championed by the comedian Jon Stewart, voted in July to replenish the fund that covers their medical care.
Full Article:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/nyregion/911-survivors-ptsd.html?module=MoreInSection_AMP
She had a foreclosure and two drunken-driving convictions before she was diagnosed with PTSD.
Kayla Bergeron can still describe that morning in matter-of-fact detail: She was dutifully working at her desk on the 68th floor when the building lurched. Someone ran in and said that a plane had hit — a small plane, she assumed. She realized it must not have been just a Cessna.
And then how she began a harrowing descent in a stairwell that was dark and wet because pipes had burst as the twin towers collapsed.
She can also describe her life since, including the loss of a new job, the foreclosure of her condominium, the two convictions for drunken driving and, just last year, the diagnosis from a court-ordered alcohol treatment program: post-traumatic stress disorder stemming from Sept. 11, 2001.
“PTSD never occurred to me,” said Ms. Bergeron, who was a high-ranking official at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey in 2001 and whose office was in the north tower. “We weren’t first responders. We weren’t cops or firefighters whose job was to go into the building. People told us, ‘Be happy to be alive.’ We minimized ourselves afterward, and it all built up over the years.”
In the 18 years since the terror attacks, the police officers and firefighters who rushed into the flaming towers have been honored with a memorial at ground zero.
On Wednesday, the names of those who died, read every Sept. 11 at a ceremony there, will be read once again, even as the number of people who have reported being sickened by their work on the so-called pile continues to rise. Congress, after a fight last summer championed by the comedian Jon Stewart, voted in July to replenish the fund that covers their medical care.
Full Article:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/nyregion/911-survivors-ptsd.html?module=MoreInSection_AMP
I'm more than point fingers, but I've talked to structural engineers that's sad that shit is impossible. Jet fuel will not burn hot enough to melt steel. It absolutely cannot happen.
I served in Kuwait with a man who was a first responder oh, actually joined the Navy after 911, and he heard detonations along with his crew, one after the other.
The government wanted to start this war, and they got their wish. They sacrificed over 3,000 people and damaged thousands of other people in the process with PTSD, along with Cancers from whatever was in those buildings. The woman who was famously covered in dust and many other people have died of cancer
I think it's time for this country to get over this event,it happened a long time ago.
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Heard some people said we need to get over this it happened years ago. I've seen a lot of crazy things in the streets and the military but watching people jumping to their death and later hearing on TV that thump from them hitting the ground and knowing you watched 5000+ people die live on TV that just doesn't go away. Above all I went to ground zero when they finished cleaning it out and it was a dead zone is the only way I can describe it, if you from NYC you know how loud the city is but ground zero area was just silent, and you felt it.
It's in the past!! Get over it America!
In controlled demolition, are charges set on higher floors too?
No lie, we passed by the pentagon a few days after and the hole didnt look like a plane hit it. This seems about right.
Videos in the thread do have a plane hitting it though.
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In a controlled building demolition, explosives charges are typically strategically placed throughout the building, not just on higher floors. The goal is to weaken the building's structural integrity uniformly, which allows it to collapse in a controlled manner.
Demolition experts carefully plan the placement of explosives based on the building's construction and the desired outcome. Charges may be positioned in key structural supports, columns, and beams at various locations, including lower, middle, and upper floors. The goal is to create a sequence of detonations that cause the building to collapse inward, minimizing the risk of damage to surrounding structures and ensuring safety.
The specific placement of charges depends on factors such as the building's size, shape, and materials used in its construction, as well as safety considerations for nearby areas. Demolition professionals aim to achieve a safe and efficient implosion that brings the building down in its own footprint.
No lie, we passed by the pentagon a few days after and the hole didnt look like a plane hit it. This seems about right.
Videos in the thread do have a plane hitting it though.
A plane can't hit a building from that angle from the sky.
Where's the runway allowing it to run straight into the building? The surrounding ground floor around the Pentagon is very hilly, with troughs and mounds everywhere.
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